Pre Ban AR-15 Magazines

[86RAG]

Wasn't there somebody from MA. looking for these not too long ago?
Colt Pre Ban AR-15 .223 Factory New Old Stock 30 Round Magazine [AR-15/30GI/N] - $49.99 : KY Imports Inc, 502-244-4400 (http://www.kyimports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7_15&products_id=30&zenid=hf1a15dhag24hkm29dpg3eh6tqs7odeb)

http://www.kyimports.com/images/coltar15223preban30rd.jpg

Not cheap, but not too bad for pre ban mags :seasix:

[1911fool]

I think it was fastguy.

[Sea Six]

I think it would be cheaper to move to a more conservative state.

Plus the wimmenz would be better looking.

Win-win.

[Bucwheat]

Why so dayum much,I must have 50 laying around.

[Fastguy]

Thanks, that was me that was looking.

[Cybercowboy]

I remember buying some 30-round mags back in 1990 or so for $2/each. :lol:

The last ones I bought, p-mags, ran about $20. That was last year during the craze after Newtown.

[73sbVert]

I've got some PMAGs still in the wrapper I could be convinced to part with...

:D

[1911fool]

I've got some PMAGs still in the wrapper I could be convinced to part with...

:D

Pmags are illegal in his state that is why he was looking for these.

[Fastguy]

MA adopted the Federal "Assault Weapons Ban", which as everyone is already aware, doesn't prevent any crime, it just makes ordinary citizens into criminals for not understanding the law. I can own all the 30 round mags I want, as long as they are "pre-ban". If I own the exact same mag, but with a date stamp on the side, it is a felony.
I can also own a pre-ban AR .To make a new AR mass compliant, it has to have fixed stock, no bayonet lug, and the flash supressor replaced by a muzzle brake and then pinned and welded. I am always keeping my eyes open for affordable pre-bans.

[86RAG]

I am always keeping my eyes open for affordable pre-bans.

Are the ones I posted considered affordable for pre bans? I really have no idea what they go for, but know that they are getting harder to find. Let me know what is affordable and I will keep my eyes open when I hit the gun shows. :cert:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I think it would be cheaper to move to a more conservative state.

Plus the wimmenz would be better looking.
Which explains why you can't seem to get a piece of ass. :lol:

[markids77]

Massachusetts has been odd about gun laws for a long time now. I know of no other state which requires a Firearms ID card for ammo purchases, for instance; and that law has been in effect for much longer than the (expired) Federal Assault Ban. The ID card does not register any firearms, just firearm owners.

[1911fool]

PM sent Fastguy

[Dr. Jacoby]

I can own all the 30 round mags I want, as long as they are "pre-ban". If I own the exact same mag, but with a date stamp on the side, it is a felony.
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When did they start having to stamp mags? 1986?

[Fastguy]

When did they start having to stamp mags? 1986?

Typically post 94.

From Northeastshooters:

How the AWB applies to Magazines (eg, so called "Large Capacity Feeding Devices" under MGL):

The federal ban stipulated a ban on "Large Capacity Feeding Devices", and this is the MGL version:




“Large capacity feeding device”, (i) a fixed or detachable magazine, box, drum, feed strip or similar device capable of accepting, or that can be readily converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition or more than five shotgun shells; or (ii) a large capacity ammunition feeding device as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(31) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994. The term “large capacity feeding device” shall not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with,.22 caliber ammunition. What this means in english is that within the borders of MA, you cannot legally own/possess a magazine that meets the description above (unless the magazine was made on or before 9/13/94). You're probably wondering what an attached tubular device is"- think feeding tube on a tube fed .22 LR rifle like a Marlin or some of the old Winchesters. This carve out was stuck in the law to keep the fudds from getting upset when it got passed.

It should also be noted that the MA version of this law does not include the extra definition in Federal Law (reference to be added later) that used to define a standard of evidence for what constituted a "Large Capacity Feeding Device". Therefore, the means of prosecution with regards to magazines is not laid out in state law like it used to be on the Federal side. This means that how someone would be prosecuted for violating the mag ban is anyone's guess. Federal law rather FIRMLY put the burden of proof on the part of the state, even going so far as to stipulate that an unmarked mag that was claimed to be preban was to be taken at face value. This is not the case under MGL and enforcement is very unclear.

Exemptions: (This is important!)

The MA AWB does not apply in the following scenarios:

-The Rifle/Shotgun/Pistol was an "Assault Weapon" or in the case of a magazine holding more than 10 rounds, a "Large Capacity feeding device" manufactured on or before 9/13/94. Note: In order to qualify for this exemption, the device must have existed "in AW configuration" the date the law was enacted. This caveat, of course, is rarely proveable one way or the other.

-The device in question is possessed by an MA FFL or a LEO (for use in performance of their duties)

Note: This exemption is "murky" at best. The "commonly accepted" interpretation is the dealers are AWB exempt because they supposedly are able to sell AWs and the like to Law Enforcement, and the LE exemption is doubly murky, depending on who you talk to.

-The device in question is possessed by someone in US Military service under orders, or someone employed in a Federal law enforcement job as issued duty gear- issued gear is immune due to an overriding federal law more than likely. The protections ascribed to here likely do not apply beyond the scope of whatever the job you have is or whatever gear
you are issued.

-The device in question is not an "assault weapon" as described above or a large capacity feeding device. EG, a 10 round cripple mag is obviously not covered/governed by the AWB.

[RedLS1GTO]

Wow... I have boxes of those mofos in the basement that came from an old guard unit.

They all have the same odd hole drilled in them, but work like a champ. It's all I use in terms of 30rd. I have a few of the original metal follower 20rd that I usually use for putting holes in paper.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/2013-02-19_15-35-52_189_zps942dfef1.jpg

$50ea??!?!?!?!? :willy:

[Fastguy]

Just got some of these from an undisclosed source, said source received shiny new Pmags. :)