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SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 5:36pm
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k130/ThrakkorzogPJM/photo_zpsa256391c.jpg

Knooger
03-11-2014, 5:38pm
I expected this thread to be about felatio.

MrPeabody
03-11-2014, 5:39pm
Sure, those poles will work fine holding a retaining wall up.:lol:

OddBall
03-11-2014, 5:39pm
Garden timbers? Really?

Jeff '79
03-11-2014, 5:42pm
I expected this thread to be about felatio.

me too.... that teasin' mofo!:slap:

Sea Six
03-11-2014, 5:44pm
What tie back and deadman system was used?

Knooger
03-11-2014, 5:44pm
me too.... that teasin' mofo!:slap:

He should be forced to provide us with felatio to make up for his deception.

Jeff '79
03-11-2014, 5:47pm
He should be forced to provide us with felatio to make up for his deception.

Ya Sea-Six first. I'll wait here.:Jeff '79:

Milton Fox
03-11-2014, 5:47pm
http://www.utalkmarketing.com/Pages/fsImageResize.aspx?fname=../UTMImages/2/BurgerKing_SevenIncher.jpg&w=352&h=249

Knooger
03-11-2014, 5:48pm
Ya Sea-Six first. I'll wait here.:Jeff '79:

I want my balls smacking on his chin within the next 72 hours or I'll complain more.

78SA
03-11-2014, 5:52pm
What tie back and deadman system was used?

Air and thread.

The_Dude
03-11-2014, 5:59pm
http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/216554-1/Stuffed-beaver.gif?

Sea Six
03-11-2014, 6:05pm
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/so-good-you-will-foam-at-the-mouth.jpg

Fastguy
03-11-2014, 6:15pm
How long was that there, a month? Undersized timbers, no deadmen=failslide.

99 pewtercoupe
03-11-2014, 6:23pm
What tie back and deadman system was used?

Hope and Change ...of course!

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 6:40pm
I expected this thread to be about felatio.

I thought you might.

Knooger
03-11-2014, 6:41pm
I thought you might.

And now I expect you will.

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 6:45pm
Garden timbers? Really?

Why not? Oh, right.

What tie back and deadman system was used?

Zuh?

How long was that there, a month? Undersized timbers, no deadmen=failslide.

We've been here six years. It came with the house. I'm betting at least 15 years. Maybe more. It just keeps bending.

I figure the slope will win. There is zero chance of me dropping $20k to fix it. I think we should just let it go, like nature and shit.

Man. Always thinking he's going to win against Mother Nature. What an imbecile.

99 pewtercoupe
03-11-2014, 6:48pm
Why not? Oh, right.



Zuh?



We've been here six years. It came with the house. I'm betting at least 15 years. Maybe more. It just keeps bending.

I figure the slope will win. There is zero chance of me dropping $20k to fix it. I think we should just let it go, like nature and shit.

Man. Always thinking he's going to win against Mother Nature. What an imbecile.

Hopefully when it gives way and your back yard slides down that hill, your deck or patio doesn't follow it.

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 6:53pm
Hopefully when it gives way and your back yard slides down that hill, your deck or patio doesn't follow it.

Meh. Deck is a piece of shit too. If I get lucky, the whole damn house will slide down that hill. Insurance covers that, right?

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 6:55pm
I wouldn't think it would take $20k. Dig out the dirt pushing against the "retaining wall," pull out the garden timbers and put up a sturdier wall before the rest of the house falls down the hill

99 pewtercoupe
03-11-2014, 6:56pm
Depends on your policy. You may want to check it out in discreet manner that does not raise alarm bells with your agent/carrier.

Sea Six
03-11-2014, 6:58pm
I wouldn't think it would take $20k. Dig out the dirt pushing against the "retaining wall," pull out the garden timbers and put up a sturdier wall before the rest of the house falls down the hill

'Pendin' on how long it is, it could kill $20k. I mean, if it's done right 'nall.

LATB
03-11-2014, 6:59pm
At least 3 code violations

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 7:01pm
My dad is a retired mason. I'm sure he could put one up cheap. Just make it out of 8" block. It won't be pretty but it would be sturdy.

Railroad ties are cheap, also

Jeff '79
03-11-2014, 7:14pm
My dad is a retired mason. I'm sure he could put one up cheap. Just make it out of 8" block. It won't be pretty but it would be sturdy.

Railroad ties are cheap, also

Uhhh.. It looks a tad more complicated and more expensive than that.
There is some serious shoring up that needs to be done there and the slope of that hill won't be easy to tame.

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 7:16pm
Uhhh.. It looks a tad more complicated and more expensive than that.
There is some serious shoring up that needs to be done there and the slope of that hill won't be easy to tame.

Dig a footing. Pour said footing. Block up from there.

OR

Dig a footing. Build a form where you want the wall to go. Throw lots of rebar in the hole. Pour concrete.Wait a few days. Take form off. Drink beer

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 7:17pm
If those timbers held up for that long, it shouldn't be that difficult to build a wall that will stay put.

Jeff '79
03-11-2014, 7:24pm
All the dirt needs to be removed from Behind the wall for at least 15'.
Footer poured with long pilings driven through it.
Each course of block will need mesh run to the deck, connected to the pilings, and then back filling over the mesh, course by course, so the wall stays in place.

99 pewtercoupe
03-11-2014, 7:26pm
All the dirt needs to be removed from Behind the wall for at least 15'.
Footer poured with long pilings driven through it.
Each course of block will need mesh run to the deck, connected to the pilings, and then back filling over the mesh, course by course, so the wall stays in place.

Good time to bury any bodies that need planting :leaving:

Knooger
03-11-2014, 7:28pm
Good time to bury any bodies that need planting :leaving:

Man, I haven't buried a victim for decades. Woodchipper into a river, done and done.

LATB
03-11-2014, 7:29pm
Multiple ways to accomplish a good retaining wall. Details depend on site conditions and other circumstances.

And it can be done correctly in wood...masonry...or steel. Often a combination of more than one.

Sea Six
03-11-2014, 7:35pm
Multiple ways to accomplish a good retaining wall. Details depend on site conditions and other circumstances.

And it can be done correctly in wood...masonry...or steel. Often a combination of more than one.

You left out vinyl.

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 7:37pm
Multiple ways to accomplish a good retaining wall. Details depend on site conditions and other circumstances.

And it can be done correctly in wood...masonry...or steel. Often a combination of more than one.

You don't even really need a good retaining wall. Garden timbers and snow fence posts lasted 15 years.

Knooger
03-11-2014, 7:37pm
You left out vinyl.

And papier-mâché.

LATB
03-11-2014, 7:39pm
You left out vinyl.

Correct

Vinyl and other composites are excellent options.

Knooger
03-11-2014, 7:43pm
Correct

Vinyl and other composites are excellent options.

And by other composites you surely mean papier-mâché.

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 7:44pm
And by other composites you surely mean papier-mâché.

I think he meant

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Lego_Color_Bricks.jpg

LATB
03-11-2014, 7:44pm
And papier-mâché.

And by other composites you surely mean papier-mâché.

Let's leave the French out of it :Jeff '79:

99 pewtercoupe
03-11-2014, 7:45pm
I think he meant

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Lego_Color_Bricks.jpg

:rofl::rofl:

Marc
03-11-2014, 7:46pm
I see 10k in engineering fees before it even gets started. Around here if it is over 4 feet high it is considered structural and needs to be signed off on by a structural engineer.

LATB
03-11-2014, 7:47pm
I think he meant

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Lego_Color_Bricks.jpg

Done properly they would work. The DOT currently uses something similar at bridge and overpass embankments

LATB
03-11-2014, 7:48pm
I see 10k in engineering fees before it even gets started. Around here if it is over 4 feet high it is considered structural and needs to be signed off on by a structural engineer.

Same here

Up to four foot it's considered "landscaping"

Beyond that it's structural

Knooger
03-11-2014, 7:58pm
I think he meant

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Lego_Color_Bricks.jpg

Legos, of course. What the f'k was I thinking with papier-mâché?

Aerovette
03-11-2014, 8:01pm
Why not? Oh, right.



Zuh?



We've been here six years. It came with the house. I'm betting at least 15 years. Maybe more. It just keeps bending.

I figure the slope will win. There is zero chance of me dropping $20k to fix it. I think we should just let it go, like nature and shit.

Man. Always thinking he's going to win against Mother Nature. What an imbecile.


$20k? What? Hey man, digging is free. Dig all that out, support/anchor properly and refill. It lasted this long. You can't make it any worse.

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 8:02pm
Same here

Up to four foot it's considered "landscaping"

Beyond that it's structural

Chop a bunch of the yard out so it slopes to a 3'11" retaining wall:D

Knooger
03-11-2014, 8:03pm
Chop a bunch of the yard out so it slopes to a 3'11" retaining wall:D

If it needs to be more than 4 feet you can terrace it and have two or more that are under 4 feet each.

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 8:12pm
Jeez, I leave a thread for ten minute and this.

Seriously, I wonder if I could rent a backhoe and do it. We got ripped off on this house so it is either underwater or close to it in terms of value. What sucks is it needs a new kitchen and two bathrooms done. Plus, the hole in the garage ceiling where I fell through. And the deck. And the rotted facia that was filled with foam, carved to shape and painted to match. And carpet.

Every penny I spend on this house is money lost.

I don't know much about retaining walls. But I know not how to do it.

I don't see selling it with that eyesore out there. But we ain't going anywhere anyway.

What really sucks is that we thought we were rebuilding our lives by buying a house. Live and learn.

Ruffy
03-11-2014, 8:14pm
This whole thread reminds me of the King of the Hill episode where Dale Gribble builds a guard tower and avoids requiring a permit by having it 39.9 feet tall 9.9 feet square and no foundation. I'd like to think I helped :seasix:

Knooger
03-11-2014, 8:15pm
Jeez, I leave a thread for ten minute and this.

Seriously, I wonder if I could rent a backhoe and do it. We got ripped off on this house so it is either underwater or close to it in terms of value. What sucks is it needs a new kitchen and two bathrooms done. Plus, the hole in the garage ceiling where I fell through. And the deck. And the rotted facia that was filled with foam, carved to shape and painted to match. And carpet.

Every penny I spend on this house is money lost.

I don't know much about retaining walls. But I know not how to do it.

I don't see selling it with that eyesore out there. But we ain't going anywhere anyway.

What really sucks is that we thought we were rebuilding our lives by buying a house. Live and learn.

Next time you should have the home inspected before you purchase it. :leaving:

99 pewtercoupe
03-11-2014, 8:16pm
:dance::dance::dance:

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 8:42pm
Next time you should have the home inspected before you purchase it. :leaving:

We did. Inspectors are a scam. One would assume that picky inspectors don't get referrals from realtors.

Next time, I will know what to look for. It's difficult when the seller is intentionally hiding things. We could have sued but we found out the guy was uncollectable. Otherwise known as broke.

What counts is that we have a roof over our heads.

Oh, I know you are a tease and don't put out.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-11-2014, 8:51pm
Man, I haven't buried a victim for decades. Woodchipper into a river, done and done.

It's too bad a hooker tree doesn't grow when you bury one in your yard ain't it?

Knooger
03-11-2014, 8:56pm
It's too bad a hooker tree doesn't grow when you bury one in your yard ain't it?

It would come in handy, but damn, it would stink something fierce in the summer.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-11-2014, 8:59pm
It would come in handy, but damn, it would stink something fierce in the summer.

Going deep enough is key. Too shallow and the damn dog digs 'em up. "Hey Rover! Where'd ya get the femur?!"

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 9:09pm
Oh you are rebuilding your lives.

Starting with that retaining wall. :leaving:

FYI, you're in Texas. You should know the answer on what to use is bailing wire and duct tape. :yesnod: :slap: :D

We came to Texas broke. 9\11 killed our business and cancer almost killed my wife. The insurance company canceled her policy retroactively leaving us bankrupt. I had no clients because I had to care for my wife full time for the previous two years.

We rented a house and slept on the floor for a year while I built up my new consulting business.

At the same time I'm the luckiest man alive. :seasix:

SnikPlosskin
03-11-2014, 9:40pm
Bro you know I was totally kidding.

You've been through more trials than many people out there and yet your over all outlook is pretty dang positive. That's dang admirable in my book. :seasix:

Now, get your azz to Home Depot and get that bailing wire and duct tape. That thing ain't gonna fix itself. Oh and while you're there, get some hired help for the job. I hear they work pretty cheap. :leaving: :D

I know. And thanks. Trust me though, some days I'm just pissed off.

But if I look at the entire picture, I'm seriously lucky. :dance:

Kevin_73
03-12-2014, 12:20am
You've got a healthy young kid. Buy a bunch of shovels then have him invite a bunch of his friends over for a "gardening party".
Problem solved!

You could also film the entire thing as pilot for a new home improvement show and possibly profit from the whole thing! :seasix:

Hoog
03-12-2014, 6:26am
... But if I look at the entire picture, I'm seriously lucky. :dance:

That puts you light years ahead of sooooooooo many people. :cert:

VatorMan
03-12-2014, 6:42am
I'll come fix it for the small price of a certain C2 Corvette. :seasix:

LATB
03-12-2014, 7:28am
With a limited budget wood is going to be the material of choice. The labor to excavate and replace the dirt will actually be the least expensive part of the project.

I've built many retaining walls, sea walls, and foundations where pressurized soils were considered in the engineering. In many cases, wood can be a better material over masonry or steel or synthetics.

If you are going to DYI and want some tips let me know here or PM.

:cert:

Stangkiller
03-12-2014, 7:30am
If the timing is right, I'll be happy to help with manual labor or picking up supplies. :cheers:

SnikPlosskin
03-12-2014, 8:30am
With a limited budget wood is going to be the material of choice. The labor to excavate and replace the dirt will actually be the least expensive part of the project.

I've built many retaining walls, sea walls, and foundations where pressurized soils were considered in the engineering. In many cases, wood can be a better material over masonry or steel or synthetics.

If you are going to DYI and want some tips let me know here or PM.

:cert:

Thanks. I'll take you up on it but it might be a while off.

SnikPlosskin
03-12-2014, 8:32am
If the timing is right, I'll be happy to help with manual labor or picking up supplies. :cheers:

You are hardcore!

I'm in no hurry. I was just out there and noticed it was worse than six months ago so I shot a pic just for you guys knowing I'd come up with a suggestive title.

But we will likely have to deal with it.

CP
03-12-2014, 9:08am
Why not? Oh, right.



Zuh?



We've been here six years. It came with the house. I'm betting at least 15 years. Maybe more. It just keeps bending.

I figure the slope will win. There is zero chance of me dropping $20k to fix it. I think we should just let it go, like nature and shit.

Man. Always thinking he's going to win against Mother Nature. What an imbecile.

The house will follow the timbers down the slope.

Brett K
03-12-2014, 9:41am
What about those large retaining wall blocks. I am not sure how expensive they are, but the expense is going to be the equipment to bring them in unless you know some egyptian builders. I will continue to offer words of encouragement in lieu of actual monetary donations or other valuable types of help.

ZipZap
03-12-2014, 5:57pm
Railroad ties and deadmen would fix this for << 20k. Laborers could have this dug out in a day. I wouldn't pour a footer, but I would probably use some compacted aggregate. First couple feet next to the wall, use draining aggregate. Heck, you could even place a french drain in there as well.

CP
03-12-2014, 6:20pm
manual labor

Isn't that the messican guy?

LATB
03-12-2014, 7:11pm
What about those large retaining wall blocks. I am not sure how expensive they are, but the expense is going to be the equipment to bring them in unless you know some egyptian builders. I will continue to offer words of encouragement in lieu of actual monetary donations or other valuable types of help.

One of the most expensive options.

The_Dude
03-12-2014, 7:22pm
http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/190077-2/Diora_BJ_innuendo_gesture.gif?

Sea Six
03-12-2014, 7:24pm
Railroad ties and deadmen would fix this for << 20k. Laborers could have this dug out in a day. I wouldn't pour a footer, but I would probably use some compacted aggregate. First couple feet next to the wall, use draining aggregate. Heck, you could even place a french drain in there as well.

Can we leave the French out of this? Please?

SnikPlosskin
03-12-2014, 7:25pm
So you're not getting blown for a while.

Sorry for the late rely. Was getting blown. :leaving:

SnikPlosskin
03-12-2014, 7:30pm
The house will follow the timbers down the slope.

Good.

Railroad ties and deadmen would fix this for << 20k. Laborers could have this dug out in a day. I wouldn't pour a footer, but I would probably use some compacted aggregate. First couple feet next to the wall, use draining aggregate. Heck, you could even place a french drain in there as well.

That could work. It is hard to get equipment back there. I will likely have to reseed my backyard from the damage caused by the equipment.

Right now I'm up to my nuts in Dear Leader's latest mega program which I hesitate to say here to attempt anonymity.

But it's a HUGE job. Pr_ mise Z_ne.

Serious. Please don't post the words.