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Bill
03-09-2014, 1:51pm
Nabbed twice by speed cameras, alderman demands better signage

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 2:41pm

Fran Spielman

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A South Side alderman who got two warning notices recently after speeding around schools and parks is demanding that City Hall put up more and better signs to alert motorists to slow down.

Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th) introduced a resolution at this week’s City Council meeting co-signed by a dozen colleagues.

Signs alerting motorists to an upcoming speed camera are "similar to existing speed limit signs," the resolution states. By contrast, signs warning motorists approaching a red-light camera are “uniquely designed with a traffic signal illustration," according to the resolution.

The resolution demands that the Chicago Department of Transportation install “clear distinctive signs and/or striping that indicates that a motorist is approaching a school or park safety zone.”

Hairston voted against the speed cameras around schools and parks that Mayor Rahm Emanuel is counting on to raise $70 million for children’s programs in 2014.

The alderman acknowledged that she was alerted to the sign shortage and sign confusion after receiving two recent warning notices of her own. She was caught on camera speeding around schools and parks in unfamiliar neighborhoods.

“It’s hard to know the difference between a school zone and speed zone signage. They’re almost identical. I’m having problems, just as any motorist would who is not given notice that they’re in violation of a law or that there is a law that applies,” Hairston said.

“This is still the United States of America. We, as citizens, have rights. There are certain things that must be given to [a] motorist. It cannot just be one way. A motorist has to have rights. They have to be given notice of what the law is in order to follow it.”

Before hammering motorists with $100 and $35 tickets — the higher fine for going 11 mph over the speed limit, the lower fine for going between 6 and 10 mph over the limit — Hairston argued that the Emanuel administration has an obligation to install distinctive signs and plenty of them.

“I didn’t even know I was in a zone. There were no signs at all,” she said.

“If I’m driving in an unfamiliar neighborhood, then I’m entitled to notice to be able to comply with the law to be a safe driver in a school zone by reducing my speed. It is not fair for a driver not to have a posted sign allowing them to adjust their speed. That’s why we have speed limits posted—so you know how fast you’re legally allowed to go. They need to explain how a motorist is supposed to know how many feet to the [speed] camera. All Chicagoans would love to know.”

Newly appointed Transportation Commissioner Rebekah Scheinfeld said the sign resolution was “just introduced” and she was still studying it.

Emanuel has insisted that his plan to install speed cameras is about saving lives, not raising sorely needed revenue.

But after 204,743 warning notices were issued in just 40 days during a trial period around three parks—enough to generate $12.2 million in fines—there appeared to be a windfall in the works, no matter what the mayor’s motives.

To win approval from a reluctant City Council, Emanuel agreed to cap the number of speed camera locations at 300 and reduced the lesser fine from $50 to $35.

The mayor also agreed to two tiers of warnings and to roll back the hours cameras would operate around schools from 6 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. to 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Even after the warning period ends, the first ticket issued to each motorist is a freebie.

So far, the city has been giving motorists a break by issuing only $100 tickets. There has been no word yet on when ticketing at the $35 level will begin.


As if driving around Chicago wasn't dangerous enough. First carjackers, now robbery-by-mail. Sweet.

99 pewtercoupe
03-09-2014, 2:15pm
Just another reason to avoid going there.

Kerrmudgeon
03-09-2014, 2:18pm
what they can't see they can't ticket......:D

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Bill
03-09-2014, 2:52pm
Why would anyone in their right mind want to live in that crap hole of a city (or Detroit) is beyond my comprehension.

Jersey Village still has red light cameras, and a well deserved reputation for speeding ticket writing cops.

Allan
03-09-2014, 8:54pm
It's for the children.

DukeAllen
03-09-2014, 9:27pm
It's for the children.

Yes, the politician's children...for tuition to private schools.

99 pewtercoupe
03-09-2014, 9:31pm
Their crappy little "city", their choice.

Wanna know how often I visit their "city"? :D

I have to go there several times a year for business. For years I used to say "Chicago is a great town to visit but I wouldn't want to live there". Now days, I don't even like going there for a day or two.

Admiral Blue
03-09-2014, 9:48pm
:kimblair:

It has its benefits, but these crooks are taking them away quickly.

With the potholes being so large maybe some cars will duck under the view of the camera. :seasix:

Fasglas
03-10-2014, 1:05am
It's ALL about the money.

Chicago speed cameras photograph nearly 234,000 violations in opening weeks | WBEZ 91.5 Chicago (http://www.wbez.org/news/chicago-speed-cameras-catch-234k-leadfoots-opening-weeks-108893)

Excerpts:


Cameras in nine so-called “safety zones” near four Chicago parks logged 233,886 speeding violations between Aug. 26 and Oct. 9, according to data obtained through a Freedom of Information Act Request.

ome drivers could begin finding speed camera tickets in their mailboxes after Oct. 16, when the 30-day grace period for the Gompers Park cameras on the North Side runs out. Tickets for the other three speed camera sites - at Marquette, Mckinley Garfield Parks - hit the mail Oct. 21. Drivers photographed going between six and 10 mph over the posted limit will get a $35 fine. Get caught cruising any faster than that, and the fine jumps to $100.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s administration estimates the city will make between $40 million and $60 million from speed camera tickets next year, when Chicago government is facing a nearly $339 million budget shortfall. But the high number of speed violations so far - and the big potential for revenue - has reignited criticisms that the program is more about making money than protecting kids.

If speed camera violations continue at their current rate, the city’s take could reach into the hundreds of millions of dollars a year. And dozens more cameras are on the way: The city is aiming to have a total of 105 installed at 50 locations by early 2014, Kubly said.

theriver
03-10-2014, 1:33am
Won't catch me there propping up the crooked regime. Or Detroit. Or New Orleans. Or LA. NYC only if it's life or death.

NEED-A-VETTE
03-10-2014, 2:23am
They did speed cameras on the freeways in Arizona. I don't live there, obviously, but I drive there to visit my daughter.

Many of the cameras were attached to mobile units and there was signage advising you were approaching a speed camera in "XXX" feet. Anytime I ever encountered them, there were always two warning signs leading to the camera.

On the 10 freeway, the only thing it lead to was pockets of speeding followed by pockets of people slamming on their breaks. :funny:

I haven't seen any for awhile. They may have done away with them. :shrug:

Admiral Blue
03-10-2014, 8:32am
Remember this guy? I think it was out in Arizona. :cert:

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VatorMan
03-10-2014, 8:38am
Here in MD they quit using the word safety when talking about speed cameras and flat out tell you it's for the revenue. They are so blatant they voted it doesn't have to be an LEO to review the photo, the camera contractor can issue the citation. They have said the reason no points is that it encourages the person to just pay the damn thing.

Get used to it America. Coming to everywhere very soon.

Bill
03-10-2014, 8:51am
Here in MD they quit using the word safety when talking about speed cameras and flat out tell you it's for the revenue. They are so blatant they voted it doesn't have to be an LEO to review the photo, the camera contractor can issue the citation. They have said the reason no points is that it encourages the person to just pay the damn thing.

Get used to it America. Coming to everywhere very soon.



Over 15 Texas cities have gotten rid of their red light cameras, probably victims of their own success. When voters get an opportunity to weigh in on the cameras, they generally vote "GTFO."

The sheep who believe "well, it's for the children," or, "it's about safety" might get bamboozled up front, but after a while, when THEY get caught, then they realize it isn't such a great idea after all, and when things reach a critical mass and people get to vote, even those folks vote with their wallets.