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[Chuck A]

well i found a car for sale from a dealer, not really a storefront though, the dealer said that i need to pay for the whole car, and he will get plates, get it register and pay for taxes and inspection, is that how it works? i havent ever bought a car from a dealer, before, thanks for your help

[lspencer534]

well i found a car for sale from a dealer, not really a storefront though, the dealer said that i need to pay for the whole car, and he will get plates, get it register and pay for taxes and inspection, is that how it works? i havent ever bought a car from a dealer, before, thanks for your help

Please be more specific about "you need to pay for the whole car."

[Chuck A]

Please be more specific about "you need to pay for the whole car."

i mean pay the whole amount in full, i find that fishy and he said the next day just bring my proff of insurance and i can just drive it away, i also find it weird should i be paying for the car smog inspection what happens if it fails, why should i pay for the problems it has

[DAB]

:skep:

something doesn't sound right.

bought my truck from the dealer, drove it home that day with temp tags, got perm tags a few weeks later.

when i live in MD, the dealer could issue perm plates on the spot.

[Chuck A]

:skep:

something doesn't sound right.

bought my truck from the dealer, drove it home that day with temp tags, got perm tags a few weeks later.

when i live in MD, the dealer could issue perm plates on the spot.

did he register it for you, and did you have to pay to get vehicle inspected, i really think why would he do this stuff especially if i rather do it instead

[lspencer534]

i mean pay the whole amount in full, i find that fishy and he said the next day just bring my proff of insurance and i can just drive it away, i also find it weird should i be paying for the car smog inspection what happens if it fails, why should i pay for the problems it has

The dealer should fix whatever is wrong with the car before you pay for the car or even agree to buy the car. The car should be certifed as passing any inspectuons. Then you should get some kind of warranty; how long the warranty is depends on the age and mileage of the car.

Every State does it differently on title, registration, and plates. Here, the dealer is responsible for getting you a title and for collecting any sales taxes that are due to the State; you have to buy the plates. Unless you're financing the car or if State law requires it, insurance is none of the dealer's busniness on a fully paid for car.

[Chuck A]

The dealer should fix whatever is wrong with the car before you pay for the car or even agree to buy the car. The car should be certifed as passing any inspectuons. Then you should get some kind of warranty; how long the warranty is depends on the age and mileage of the car.

Every State does it differently on title, registration, and plates. Here, the dealer is responsible for getting you a title and for collecting any sales taxes that are due to the State; you have to buy the plates. Unless you're financing the car or if State law requires it, insurance is none of the dealer's busniness on a fully paid for car.

yea i agree if i am going to pay for it fully, why do you need to do anything, i will accept the car, and all the responsibility

[Chuck A]

The dealer should fix whatever is wrong with the car before you pay for the car or even agree to buy the car. The car should be certifed as passing any inspectuons. Then you should get some kind of warranty; how long the warranty is depends on the age and mileage of the car.

Every State does it differently on title, registration, and plates. Here, the dealer is responsible for getting you a title and for collecting any sales taxes that are due to the State; you have to buy the plates. Unless you're financing the car or if State law requires it, insurance is none of the dealer's busniness on a fully paid for car.

no warranty, it has over 100,000 miles and he got it as a trade in

[Chuck A]

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq264/chucka/1171589633_zpsa80c5f16.jpg

[lspencer534]

no warranty, it has over 100,000 miles and he got it as a trade in

Check your State's Uniform Commercial Code. A lot of States still require the seller to give you an implied warranty of merchantability; i.e., the product is reasonably fit for its intended purpose. This is Section 2-316 of the UCC.

[Y2Kvert4me]

Typically the dealer collects the taxes/fees and takes care of the title/registration. Whether you are transferring plates from another car, or putting new tags on it doesn't matter, the car should be registered to you and have valid plates on it when you take delivery. The state will then mail the title to you.
This is a huge convenience, why would you want to go to the DMV and do that yourself?!? :skep:

As for the smog/inspection (varies wildly by state), it sounds like that's a requirement that must be met before it can be registered? If so, that should be no concern to you...At least not until next time inspection is due.

[Chuck A]

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=135335363&listingRecNum=8&criteria=feedSegId%3D28705%26rpp%3D50%26isDealerGrouping%3Dfalse%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26sf1Nm%3Dprice%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26stkTypId%3D28881%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26rn%3D0%26zc%3D11741%26rd%3D30%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTypId-feedSegId-mkId-mdId%26mdId%3D22205%26stkTyp%3DU%26mkId%3D20012%26sf1Dir%3DDESC&aff=national&listType=1
heres the car we are looking at

[Chuck A]

Typically the dealer collects the taxes/fees and takes care of the title/registration. Whether you are transferring plates from another car, or putting new tags on it doesn't matter, the car should be registered to you and have valid plates on it when you take delivery. The state will then mail the title to you.
This is a huge convenience, why would you want to go to the DMV and do that yourself?!? :skep:

As for the smog/inspection (varies wildly by state), it sounds like that's a requirement that must be met before it can be registered? If so, that should be no concern to you...At least not until next time inspection is due.

The reason is i just feel like well take my money and run deal, i always hear of scams were scammers collect all the money and the next day all you find is a empty office, besides our dmv here in Suffolk LI isnt that bad

[MrPeabody]

In my state, the dealer can't even offer a car for sale or even show it to a customer until it's been smogged and passed a safety inspection. That rule gets bent a little here and there, but for sure no money should change hands until the car meets all the standards. The dealer does take care of all the DMV business though, after the car is sold.

Check with whatever agency regulates car dealers in your state to find out what the laws are in your state.

Edit: After looking at the website you linked to, cars.com appears to just be a website that feeds customers to dealers, or some sort of co-op website shared by a number of dealers. I would contact the dealer the car is at directly.

[Chuck A]

In my state, the dealer can't even offer a car for sale or even show it to a customer until it's been smogged and passed a safety inspection. That rule gets bent a little here and there, but for sure no money should change hands until the car meets all the standards. The dealer does take care of all the DMV business though, after the car is sold.

Check with whatever agency regulates car dealers in your state to find out what the laws are in your state.

yes that is what i dont understand what if it needs lightbulbs, windshield wipers, cant pass test, why should i be held accountable for that?
very weird indeed

[MrPeabody]

yes that is what i dont understand what if it needs lightbulbs, windshield wipers, cant pass test, why should i be held accountable for that?
very weird indeed

See my edited post.

[Chuck A]

In my state, the dealer can't even offer a car for sale or even show it to a customer until it's been smogged and passed a safety inspection. That rule gets bent a little here and there, but for sure no money should change hands until the car meets all the standards. The dealer does take care of all the DMV business though, after the car is sold.

Check with whatever agency regulates car dealers in your state to find out what the laws are in your state.

Edit: After looking at the website you linked to, cars.com appears to just be a website that feeds customers to dealers, or some sort of co-op website shared by a number of dealers. I would contact the dealer the car is at directly.

yes i am buying it from the dealer

[Chuck A]

can anyone do a carfax for me on that vin?

[lspencer534]

can anyone do a carfax for me on that vin?

That should be up to the dealer to provide you with that.

[Jeff '79]

Pay for the car, get the title, and do everything else yourself.

If you want the convenience of driving it off the lot, he needs all of that paperwork in order to register it, including proof of insurance
In order to register it, you'll need proof of insurance in order for him to do that.
So this is your first rodeo, hu?
In all seriousness, the way it sounds, it sounds pretty much by the book to me.
I'm sure he had a NYS inspection done on it. You have a smog thing on Long Island?
We don't here in WNY.

[MrPeabody]

can anyone do a carfax for me on that vin?

Ask the dealer to show you a carfax or autocheck report.

[GRN ENVY]

At my dealer you pay for the price of the car, plus sales tax and any DMV fees associated with registering a car in your name. This is a common practice nowadays. In fact at my dealer we are directly connected to DMV so no need to put you on a temp tag. You get your car with a plate all in the same day. Quick and painless.

[Chuck A]

At my dealer you pay for the price of the car, plus sales tax and any DMV fees associated with registering a car in your name. This is a common practice nowadays. In fact at my dealer we are directly connected to DMV so no need to put you on a temp tag. You get your car with a plate all in the same day. Quick and painless.

very cool, indeed

[Chuck A]

Ask the dealer to show you a carfax or autocheck report.

is that a law that they need to show me a carfax, or is it up to them to do?

[MrPeabody]

is that a law that they need to show me a carfax, or is it up to them to do?

It's not the law in my state, but it is so commonplace that if the dealer won't do it, it raises a red flag. At the last used car lot I worked at, we had the autocheck report for each car right on our website.

[MikeB]

no warranty, it has over 100,000 miles and he got it as a trade in

I don't think a car fax will help.

But, if this is a small time dealer, it'll probably be up to you to get it on your own. These car reports are optional, some offer them, others don't.

[Chuck A]

thanks guys for your help, norm hooked me up with a check and it came back all good, just figured a carfax would be better, and i heard that the dodge stratus doesnt have a timing belt, but a chain, but was told that the labor for a water pump is usually 7 hours, hopefully will be going tommorow to buy it, this will be my sons 3rd car, as you can remember the first he was involved in a collision, total loss, thew second the timing belt went and totaled the engine, hoping 3rd is a charm