Meet the New $ 75,000 Sports Car....Camaro Z/28 [Archive]

Bill

01-07-2014, 11:50am

Pricing Announced for New 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28

J.D. Power and Associates – 16 hours ago
Once only steps away from becoming a feature car on the 1970s detective show "Charlie's Angels," the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 is fully redeemed as an elite performance machine for the 2014 model year and is equipped with a price tag reflecting its new status in the muscle car hierarchy. How much is the new 2014 Camaro Z28? When the car goes on sale in the spring of 2014, it will cost a cool $75,000, including a destination charge of $995 and a gas-guzzler tax.

How can a Camaro cost 75 grand? According to Mark Reuss, president, General Motors North America, "The Camaro Z/28 is an uncompromising performer that's bred for the track--and every one of its unique components supports the goal of faster lap times."

To that end, the new Camaro Z/28 is equipped with a hand-built, 7.0-liter LS7 V-8 engine cranking out 505 horsepower and 481 lb.-ft. of torque, a dry-sump oiling system, close-ratio 6-speed manual gearbox, Torsen limited-slip rear differential with a helical gear set, and a Performance Traction Management system.

Lightweight 19-inch forged aluminum wheels and P305/30R19 Pirelli PZero Trofeo performance tires help to keep the Camaro Z/28 glued to the ground, aided by aerodynamic tweaks designed to increase downforce at speed. Race-proven shocks, stiffer springs, and revised bushing rates improve handling, too, and Chevrolet claims the new Z/28 can tackle corners with 1.08g of grip. In layman's terminology, the Z/28 sticks to the road like few other cars. When it comes time to stop, standard Brembo Carbon Ceramic Matrix rotors dissipate heat and weigh less than steel, while 6-piston front and 4-piston rear calipers help to ensure maximum braking performance.

Chevrolet has also pulled as much weight out of the Camaro Z/28 as possible, reducing mass by jettisoning power seat adjusters, installing a smaller and lighter battery, removing some of the interior sound deadening materials, modifying the rear seat design, using thinner rear window glass, making air conditioning an option, and eliminating several features. The driver and front passenger sit on Recaro performance-bolstered seats with 5-point racing harness pass-throughs.

Want to own the very first 2014 Camaro Z/28, VIN 0001? Book a flight to Phoenix and attend the Barrett-Jackson Auction in Scottsdale on January 18. Rights to that car will be auctioned at the event.

Who would have ever thought the Camaro would be an aspirational car, vs. a car most could actually afford?

snide

01-07-2014, 11:52am

Meh.

simpleman68

01-07-2014, 11:56am

If you're looking for track car, it would seem to make infinitely more sense to buy a used C6Z and put the extra cash into upgrades.

Hell, you'd still have money to spend on track wheels and a trailer.
Scott

RedLS1GTO

01-07-2014, 12:03pm

What kind of idiot would actually pay that for a Camaro? :skep:

69camfrk

01-07-2014, 12:17pm

What kind of idiot would actually pay that for a Camaro? :skep:

I am yet to understand the whole premise. A Z/28 should be priced in line with a 5.0 Mustang which will still most likely take the Z to the cleaners for half the price. I have come to the conclusion that GM is chock full of idiots. For that kind of money, they can stick it where the sun don't shine. When a stock Camaro costs more than a Corvette off the showroom floor, something is wrong with the world. Just WTF you know????? They can keep their new Camaro, and I will keep my old one.

Ryan Bell

01-07-2014, 12:28pm

What kind of idiot would actually pay that for a Camaro? :skep:

Seriously. I thought the ZL1 price was pushing it.

Truck Guy

01-07-2014, 12:32pm

You can buy a fully loaded Mustang Shelby GT500 for almost $10,000 less than that.

With 662hp :yesnod:

Fasglas

01-07-2014, 12:39pm

What kind of idiot would actually pay that for a Camaro? :skep:

Same person that would buy:

http://cdn.tuningcult.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Chevrolet-Camaro-by-Paul-Jr.-Designs-and-Trans-American-Muscle-6.jpg

Ryan Bell

01-07-2014, 12:40pm

You can buy a fully loaded Mustang Shelby GT500 for almost $10,000 less than that.

With 662hp :yesnod:

Yep. And for some reason, I wouldn't feel as bad about that. (Even though it's a Mustang)

Grey Ghost

01-07-2014, 12:46pm

Might turn out to be a rare production model with an MSRP like that.

Truck Guy

01-07-2014, 12:48pm

Yep. And for some reason, I wouldn't feel as bad about that. (Even though it's a Mustang)Granted, the 2015 GT500 will cost more than the 2014, but not anywhere near $10k more.

Still cheaper than the Z28 :yesnod: with more power and IRS.

snide

01-07-2014, 1:09pm

I'm thinking that the Z/28 with the LS7 will be significantly slower than my Z06 was? Why? Because it's saddled with an extra 1000 lbs.

NeedSpeed

01-07-2014, 2:02pm

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/dissected-2014-chevrolet-camaro-z28-inline-4-photo-514211-s-original.jpg

69camfrk

01-07-2014, 2:06pm

Granted, the 2015 GT500 will cost more than the 2014, but not anywhere near $10k more.

Still cheaper than the Z28 :yesnod: with more power and IRS.

Man, I've ridden in some boosted Stangs, and they will damn near snap your neck. Mod motors love the boost. The 700 rwhp threshold was reached a while back on a stock 5.0 bottom end, and it is easy money to knock out over 600 with bolt on's. For example.....

2011 5.0 with 3.6LC Kenne Bell - YouTube

69camfrk

01-07-2014, 2:07pm

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/dissected-2014-chevrolet-camaro-z28-inline-4-photo-514211-s-original.jpg

Is that the monster that comes out of the hood telling you that you wasted a shit load of money????:confused5:

Bill

01-07-2014, 2:09pm

NeedSpeed

01-07-2014, 2:18pm

For $ 6,000 less, you can get a '14 twin turbo "Bandit Trans Am." Just imagine pulling up to a choke and puke in one of these bad boys!

Pontiac Trans Am Bandit 7T7 Trans Am T Tops | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Trans-Am-BANDIT-7T7-TRANS-AM-T-TOPS-2014-7-t-7-bandit-trans-am-custom-licensed-build-trans-/221348671975?forcerrptr=true&hash=item338968b1e7&item=221348671975&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

How are they allowed to call it a Pontiac :lol:

69camfrk

01-07-2014, 2:26pm

Mirroredshades

01-07-2014, 2:41pm

You could buy a C6Z and a 2014 Mustang GT for that. And have beer money left over.

:loco:

Joecooool

01-07-2014, 3:05pm

I am yet to understand the whole premise. A Z/28 should be priced in line with a 5.0 Mustang which will still most likely take the Z to the cleaners for half the price. No way in hell.

2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE vs. 2013 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack - Winner - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1303_2013_chevrolet_camaro_ss_1le_ford_mustang_gt_track_pack/winner.html)
You can buy a fully loaded Mustang Shelby GT500 for almost $10,000 less than that.

With 662hp :yesnod:Well, the problem with the Shelby is its shit on a track. Its built to go fast down the highway but its always been a handful on a road course. People that want to race Mustangs have then always had to go to someone like Rousch for a car that is capable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not ever going to own a Z/28. But on the track, its going to absolutely kick the shit out of any variant of the Mustang Ford has been putting out there.

vetteman9368

01-07-2014, 3:10pm

No way in hell.

2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE vs. 2013 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack - Winner - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1303_2013_chevrolet_camaro_ss_1le_ford_mustang_gt_track_pack/winner.html)
Well, the problem with the Shelby is its shit on a track. Its built to go fast down the highway but its always been a handful on a road course. People that want to race Mustangs have then always had to go to someone like Rousch for a car that is capable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not ever going to own a Z/28. But on the track, its going to absolutely kick the shit out of any variant of the Mustang Ford has been putting out there.

Holy shit I agree with Phil, hell has truly frozen over

Madmikeee

01-07-2014, 3:14pm

Same person that would buy:

http://cdn.tuningcult.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Chevrolet-Camaro-by-Paul-Jr.-Designs-and-Trans-American-Muscle-6.jpg

:puke::puke::puke:

Seriously, I have a 10'X20' garage with NO electricity and I could do a better custom job than that, Paul Jr is a one trick pony, bolt shiny bits to pre-built crap and call it custom, he should get a job at West Coast Customs.

Norm

01-07-2014, 3:23pm

Nah, would buy a C7 or a CTS-v before I'd drop that kind of money on a Camaro.

Truck Guy

01-07-2014, 3:54pm

Well, the problem with the Shelby is its shit on a track. Its built to go fast down the highway but its always been a handful on a road course. People that want to race Mustangs have then always had to go to someone like Rousch for a car that is capable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not ever going to own a Z/28. But on the track, its going to absolutely kick the shit out of any variant of the Mustang Ford has been putting out there.Phil, you didn't see my post (#11).

The 2015 Mustang now has IRS and all new front suspension.
Not that it will ever handle like a Corvette, but it will definitely be better than the 2014 model.

Time will tell... :yesnod:

snide

01-07-2014, 4:00pm

Phil, you didn't see my post (#11).

The 2015 Mustang now has IRS and all new front suspension.
Not that it will ever handle like a Corvette, but it will definitely be better than the 2014 model.

Time will tell... :yesnod:

When does the 2015 Rustang hit the ground? :bigears:

Mirroredshades

01-07-2014, 4:12pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm not ever going to own a Z/28. But on the track, its going to absolutely kick the shit out of any variant of the Mustang Ford has been putting out there.

It's all relative JC. I could take a 2014 Mustang for $30k, add $45k in mods and kick the chit out of the Z28. With the AC running.

:D

Mirroredshades

01-07-2014, 4:13pm

If I was going to drop $75g's on a Camaro, I would do this.

:smash:

2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs. Mark Stielow's Red Devil '69 Camaro - HOT ROD Unlimited Episode 13 - YouTube

C5SilverBullet

01-07-2014, 5:02pm

It is a car with no A/C, and no stereo. It is purpose built, it isn't a daily driver.

VatorMan

01-07-2014, 5:13pm

Granted, the 2015 GT500 will cost more than the 2014, but not anywhere near $10k more.

Still cheaper than the Z28 :yesnod: with more power and IRS.

Maybe because the brake package alone is $10K on the Z. Plus it will whip the GT badly on the track.

Truck Guy

01-07-2014, 5:42pm

When does the 2015 Rustang hit the ground? :bigears:They haven't announced the 2014 order cutoff yet so the 2015 won't be built until fall.

Maybe because the brake package alone is $10K on the Z. Plus it will whip the GT badly on the track. So? The 2014 GT500 has 6-piston front Brembos standard. No spec's are out yet on the 2015.

And since they haven't had a head to head test of the 2015 cars, how do you know that?

Crystal ball? :rofl:

vetteman9368

01-07-2014, 5:44pm

They haven't announced the 2014 order cutoff yet so the 2015 won't be built until fall.

So? The 2014 GT500 has 6-piston front Brembos standard. No spec's are out yet on the 2015.

And since they haven't had a head to head test of the 2015 cars, how do you know that?

Crystal ball? :rofl:

It needs those 6 pistons because it's heavier than a suburban full of day laborers

Truck Guy

01-07-2014, 5:51pm

It needs those 6 pistons because it's heavier than a suburban full of day laborers:rofl:

You and Vator deep throating the General Motors baloney again :lol:

What does the GT500 weigh compared to the Camaro Z28 or ZL1, does anyone know?

[EDIT]
GT500 Coupe = 3845 lbs
Camaro ZL1 Coupe = 4120 lbs

Suck that Alabama Boy!

C5SilverBullet

01-07-2014, 5:59pm

:rofl:

You and Vator deep throating the General Motors baloney again :lol:

What does the GT500 weigh compared to the Camaro Z28 or ZL1, does anyone know?

Mustang GT - 3,618
GT500 - 3,845
Camaro SS - 3,935
Camaro ZL1 - 4,120

snide

01-07-2014, 6:01pm

Mustang GT - 3,618
GT500 - 3,845
Camaro SS - 3,935
Camaro ZL1 - 4,120

What will the Z/28 weigh? What does the 1LE weigh?

C5SilverBullet

01-07-2014, 6:03pm

What will the Z/28 weigh? What does the 1LE weigh?

Z28 - 3,837
1LE - 3,860

...Whitepower...

01-07-2014, 6:46pm

Looks like Phil has been shopping/reading up on his pony cars..:seasix:

Heres the scoupe on the 1LE. It's essentially the ZL1 suspension in an SS.

Tires and chassis tuning are the same as the ZL1 with less body roll etc.. On Car and Driver's lightning lap for 2013 it lapped VIR 7 or 8 SECONDS faster than the 2012 Camaro SS from the previous years test. I remember that figure jumping out at me when i read the article when i got the mag.

The 1LE is the shit and will be one hell of a used car bargain in a year or two for less than $30k. I'd buy a used 2014 1LE 'maro with the revised styling in a year or two.. :yesnod:

Edit: Just did a youtube search about the lightning lap and found the vid.

2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE - 2013 Lightning Lap - LL2 Class - CAR and DRIVER - YouTube

snide

01-07-2014, 7:33pm

The 1LE is the shit and will be one hell of a used car bargain in a year or two for less than $30k. I'd buy a used 2014 1LE 'maro with the revised styling in a year or two.. :yesnod:

The local Chevy store has a '14 1LE in stock (http://www.macmulkin.net/VehicleDetails/new-2014-Chevrolet-Camaro-2dr_Cpe_SS_w%2F2SS-Nashua-NH/2040771083). I'd consider buying it if they'd paint the hood.

MacMulkin Chevrolet Cadillac is a Nashua Cadillac, Chevrolet dealer and a new car and used car Nashua NH Cadillac, Chevrolet dealership. (http://www.macmulkin.net/f_WindowSticker?VIN=2G1FT1EW6E9122419)

Ruffy

01-07-2014, 7:59pm

If the Z/28 is a purpose-built track car, I'd rather have an Ariel Atom 3 or a Caterham 620R for the money.

onedef92

01-08-2014, 11:56am

What kind of idiot would actually pay that for a Camaro? :skep:

Someone with all cash and no sense, IMO.

RedLS1GTO

01-08-2014, 12:03pm

If the Z/28 is a purpose-built track car, I'd rather have an Ariel Atom 3 or a Caterham 620R for the money.

:skep:

It's a Camaro... a production street car that (Chevrolet claims) will perform well on a track.

It's not even close to a track ONLY car like the Ariel or the Caterham.

VatorMan

01-08-2014, 12:12pm

They haven't announced the 2014 order cutoff yet so the 2015 won't be built until fall.

So? The 2014 GT500 has 6-piston front Brembos standard. No spec's are out yet on the 2015.

And since they haven't had a head to head test of the 2015 cars, how do you know that?

Crystal ball? :rofl:

We're talking about Carbon Ceramic brakes. Exotic brakes like the ZR1. Not old heavy steel like the 'Stang.

Joecooool

01-08-2014, 12:37pm

:rofl:

You and Vator deep throating the General Motors baloney again :lol:

What does the GT500 weigh compared to the Camaro Z28 or ZL1, does anyone know?

[EDIT]
GT500 Coupe = 3845 lbs
Camaro ZL1 Coupe = 4120 lbs

Suck that Alabama Boy!The weight isn't as important as how its distributed.

On the GT500, 57% of the weight is on the front wheels. This makes the car unstable in transitions and difficult to put the power to the ground coming out of a corner. The solid axle rear end also sucks balls on the track.

The Camaro ZL1 has a dramatically better 51% front weight distribution. This is why the car, while quite a bit less powerful than the GT500, is so much faster around the track.

Joecooool

01-08-2014, 12:40pm

If the Z/28 is a purpose-built track car, I'd rather have an Ariel Atom 3 or a Caterham 620R for the money.

I wanted an Atom and almost bought one. Fortunately for me it was raining the day I took it for a ride and well, that was the end of that.

Mirroredshades

01-08-2014, 12:49pm

The local Chevy store has a '14 1LE. I'd consider buying it if they'd paint the hood.

I'm pretty sure it's just a sticker. There is a thread on one of the camaro forums where a guy peeled it off and found the hood painted body color.

:seasix:

snide

01-08-2014, 1:16pm

I'm pretty sure it's just a sticker. There is a thread on one of the camaro forums where a guy peeled it off and found the hood painted body color.

:seasix:

Maybe I'll go down to the stealership tonight and peel it off.

C5SilverBullet

01-08-2014, 1:20pm

I'm pretty sure it's just a sticker. There is a thread on one of the camaro forums where a guy peeled it off and found the hood painted body color.

:seasix:

That's true. When the cars are painted, they paint the entire thing, they aren't aware the options codes at that time. Buy one, and peel that bitch off.

snide

01-08-2014, 1:22pm

That's true. When the cars are painted, they paint the entire thing, they aren't aware the options codes at that time. Buy one, and peel that bitch off.

Good. I think that matte black paint is stupid. And the hood on that one car showed up more fingerprints than the paint does.

Aerovette

01-08-2014, 1:46pm

onedef92

01-08-2014, 1:55pm

I absolutely DESPISE the mixing of generations.

The 69 T/A was a beautiful car and that should have been the look they went for.

This is the equivalent of one of those C5 body kits people put on C4s.

The clamshell hood on that joker is dope! :seasix:

Truck Guy

01-08-2014, 2:02pm

We're talking about Carbon Ceramic brakes. Exotic brakes like the ZR1. Not old heavy steel like the 'Stang.:yesnod: I agree, very expensive brakes.
Are they really necessary especially at a $10K premium like you said on a car that's in the Z28 price range?

VatorMan

01-08-2014, 2:33pm

:yesnod: I agree, very expensive brakes.
Are they really necessary especially at a $10K premium like you said on a car that's in the Z28 price range?

If you've ever get the chance to ride in a ZR1 on the track-take it. The speed is exciting-the BRAKING is other worldly. That's what makes the ZR1 a super car-the brakes. I have a friend that has a Kateck Z06 that is just brutally fast-but can't stop that bitch like a ZR1.

Putting GM's best brake package on a track specialist car like the Z06 Carbon and the new Z28 makes all the sense in the world. Let Ford babble on and on about HP. GM just smiles and says "bring it to the track."

Look on all the exotics now. They all have Carbon ceramic. Designed initially by GM.

C5SilverBullet

01-08-2014, 3:00pm

When it is time, I'm putting them on my BMW.

DJ_Critterus

01-08-2014, 3:14pm

What kind of idiot would actually pay that for a Camaro? :skep:

The same who would buy the Mustang Cobra or whatever it was pushing 500hp.

erickpl

01-08-2014, 4:29pm

Is that the monster that comes out of the hood telling you that you wasted a shit load of money????:confused5:

Looks like somebody released the Kraken... LOL And all tentacles are reaching into your pocket without the courtesy of a reacharound.

69camfrk

01-08-2014, 6:32pm

Maybe because the brake package alone is $10K on the Z. Plus it will whip the GT badly on the track.

On a road course, yes, but really, how many people that have these cars actually do that? I'll take the Mustang in a straight line for a 1000 Alex!:seasix: Here ya go Phil, for your entertainment.

2014 Mustang 5.0 (stock) vs 2013 Camaro SS 1LE (modded) - YouTube

VatorMan

01-08-2014, 6:52pm

On a road course, yes, but really, how many people that have these cars actually do that? I'll take the Mustang in a straight line for a 1000 Alex!:seasix: Here ya go Phil, for your entertainment.
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That's always the rub. Take any car or 4X4 truck and how many are evey used to their potential. But if you want to, it's there.

RED-85-Z51

01-08-2014, 7:06pm

69camfrk

01-08-2014, 7:16pm

Isnt this what killed the F bodies the first time around? the ones that were worth having, were priced out of reach of those that were willing to drive them?

Strip it down, make it road legal, give it a 500hp small block, 6 speed, low gears and a posi..and sell it for 25K...you wont be able to keep them on the lots long enough, and plenty of room for upgrades and aftermarket stuff..people will go nuts for them.

You just said what I've said a million times. Just how the fcuk did a Camaro become more expensive than a Corvette? Owning a 1st gen Camaro, I get the appreciation, but off the lot...gimme a break. I guess the first gen ZL1 or COPO might be the exceptions, but as a production car, I would not even consider a new Z. But then again I don't have 75k to waste on a car that will depreciate faster than a lit fart burns.

Joecooool

01-08-2014, 7:18pm

On a road course, yes, but really, how many people that have these cars actually do that? I'll take the Mustang in a straight line for a 1000 Alex!:seasix: Here ya go Phil, for your entertainment.

2014 Mustang 5.0 (stock) vs 2013 Camaro SS 1LE (modded) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBq5MBTlAk)

I think there are a hell of a lot more people running cars in local race circuits than down drag strips.

Dan Dlabay

01-08-2014, 7:29pm

I like the new Z/28 but at that price. If they what $75000 for the Z/28 then what are they going to charge for the new ZO6?:cert:

69camfrk

01-08-2014, 7:32pm

I think there are a hell of a lot more people running cars in local race circuits than down drag strips.

All kidding aside, I don't think that is the case around here. Nearest place to race a road course is Road Atlanta, but we have two drag strips in a 30 mile radius. Also, it is a helluva lot cheaper to go drag race than it is to do the road course. Think about it, the Mustang Terminator Cobra's were meant for the road course, but most people drag raced them. Hell, changing pulley's, fuel pump, and injectors would get you close to 600 rwhp if not over on those cars. I am just not impressed with Chevy's completely over priced attempt at a Z/28, and truthfully, I think they are screwing the pooch. Just my .02.

C5SilverBullet

01-08-2014, 7:36pm

All kidding aside, I don't think that is the case around here. Nearest place to race a road course is Road Atlanta, but we have two drag strips in a 30 mile radius. Also, it is a helluva lot cheaper to go drag race than it is to do the road course. Think about it, the Mustang Terminator Cobra's were meant for the road course, but most people drag raced them. Hell, changing pulley's, fuel pump, and injectors would get you close to 600 rwhp if not over on those cars. I am just not impressed with Chevy's completely over priced attempt at a Z/28, and truthfully, I think they are screwing the pooch. Just my .02.

The people who are buying a Z/28 (no a/c no stereo) are not the general public. They are people buying them to take them to the road course, and that's why they're only building a few hundred.

69camfrk

01-08-2014, 8:11pm

The people who are buying a Z/28 (no a/c no stereo) are not the general public. They are people buying them to take them to the road course, and that's why they're only building a few hundred.

I didn't realize the production numbers were going to be that low....Still too expensive though.

vetteman9368

01-08-2014, 8:19pm

RedLS1GTO

01-08-2014, 9:13pm

I think there are a hell of a lot more people running cars in local race circuits than down drag strips.

Not even remotely close.

I've lived in quite a few places from the Midwest to the Northeast and down to Virginia and Mississippi.

In each of those places, 'd put the number at every bit of 20:1 of those who have made at least 1 pass down a drag strip to those who have made at least 1 lap around a road course. There are hundreds of cars every Friday and Saturday night at pretty much every drag strip in the country... and those drag strips outnumber road courses by a HUGE margin.

Local test and tune: $15

HPDE: ~$500-$600 MINIMUM by the time all is said and done.

Let's look here... we're car guys (and girls), right? Raise your hand if you have ever driven in anger on a road course or a drag strip. I'm 1 vote for each.

Grey Ghost

01-08-2014, 9:59pm

On a road course, yes, but really, how many people that have these cars actually do that? I'll take the Mustang in a straight line for a 1000 Alex!:seasix: Here ya go Phil, for your entertainment.

2014 Mustang 5.0 (stock) vs 2013 Camaro SS 1LE (modded) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBq5MBTlAk)

Escalade vs. Mustang

http://i.imgur.com/V99lHZn.gif

RED-85-Z51

01-08-2014, 11:44pm

Let's back up 13 years, and take a look at Ford's then new track killer, which listed for $54,995 at the time.

Road Test: 2000 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R All Pages (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0004_ford_svt_mustang_cobra_r/viewall.html)

Those cars are rare and sought after now. At the time, they were killer on a road course.

Funny you mention that, I saw one coming off I-10 today, It looked original, unless someone spent alot of time getting it right as a clone, right down to the fuel tank hanging below the bumper, and the antenna delete. He got on it..that wasnt no 4.6 under the hood!

Stick a Lightning sourced Blower on top..holy balls.