A Viper I can afford... [Archive]

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 7:59pm

Damn...never seen one actually running ,driving, for this cheap...

1994 Dodge Viper RT/10 CONVERTIBLE (http://pensacola.craigslist.org/cto/4199616259.html)

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:00pm

These 1st gen Vipers were the only ones i really liked, they were simple, unique, and sidepipes....**** yeah.

Craig

11-20-2013, 8:01pm

That's the highest millage I've ever seen on one of those, by a factor of five.

The_Dude

11-20-2013, 8:02pm

That one got driven.

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:03pm

That's the highest millage I've ever seen on one of those, by a factor of five.

And apparently, all they need to go that far is coils, heads, wires, injectors, brakes, transmission, etc..

Its actually, if clean and runs right, a bargain for that kind of performance, and new parts....

lspencer534

11-20-2013, 8:03pm

What's with the "Auto Form" top?

MrPeabody

11-20-2013, 8:04pm

That's the highest millage I've ever seen on one of those, by a factor of five.

Like Red would consider anything else.

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:04pm

My first love was the Red Viper in the late night CBS Tv series "Viper" that transformed into the silver "defender" car...

That sound...those pipes..THAT SOUND.

Jeff '79

11-20-2013, 8:07pm

That one got driven.

Ya, but it's brand new. Everything has been replaced....:lol:

Fastguy

11-20-2013, 8:08pm

What's with the "Auto Form" top?

Aftermarket hard top. May be why the price is low, those cars are targas. That looks like some weird conversion.
The windshield frame should be black, with those terrible side curtains and a fabric or solid targa top. A friend of mine bought one new and only uses it for autocross. He has done nothing to it in 20 years other than tires. Still has the original brakes.

http://www.autoformgroup.com/autoformgroup/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=14&category_id=114&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26&vmcchk=1

Craig

11-20-2013, 8:09pm

And apparently, all they need to go that far is coils, heads, wires, injectors, brakes, transmission, etc..

Well, let's face it, in the end, it's still just a twenty year old Dodge...

I prefer the GTS myself. Make mine the blue with white stripes please.

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:09pm

What's with the "Auto Form" top?

1st gens were never made availalbe with anything more than a Soft top, auto-form makes a custom hard top, allowing for outside storage.

I always liked that these has no ABS, no trac control, Rarely had A/C, it was a drivers car...and 0-60 in 4s flat...top speed north of 175..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/1992_Dodge_Viper_interior.JPG/800px-1992_Dodge_Viper_interior.JPG

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:11pm

Well, let's face it, in the end, it's still just a twenty year old Dodge...

i liked my Dodge..lol

I almost shat when I saw the miles though, but..for 19.900 or make offer...I knew there had to be something.

Craig

11-20-2013, 8:16pm

i liked my Dodge..lol

I almost shat when I saw the miles though, but..for 19.900 or make offer...I knew there had to be something.

What's funny is you see NSXs that age with 150K+ all the time...and they sell for twice that. I hear that gen Viper is miserable to drive, that's why the miles are always so low. I'd still love to have one though, for a little while.

The_Dude

11-20-2013, 8:19pm

i liked my Dodge..lol

I almost shat when I saw the miles though, but..for 19.900 or make offer...I knew there had to be something.

Don't you have trucks with more miles than that? You might have to sell a few of them to get this though.

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:28pm

Don't you have trucks with more miles than that? You might have to sell a few of them to get this though.

Ive only got one thats all original with more miles, the Dually has 248K. The K1500 has 208K but the engine is a new crate engine, trans is new, etc..

The other 2 are 127K and 151K

Id have to sell one of them to make an offer on this beast...but my problem is not buying it...my problem would be, when anything broke, Id be f*cked deep, deep in the ass. Rear tires..about 600 each. Brakes, probably 250 a corner, clutch, easily 1200 for a decent one.

MrPeabody

11-20-2013, 8:30pm

Will you come back here after you get permabanned over at the Viper Forum?

The_Dude

11-20-2013, 8:35pm

my problem would be, when anything broke, Id be f*cked deep, deep in the ass. Rear tires..about 600 each. Brakes, probably 250 a corner, clutch, easily 1200 for a decent one.
I'd certainly pay for an inspection to see what it might need. The ad claims he just put new tires and brakes on it. Buy it and drive it for a month or two and then resell it before it needs anything.

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:35pm

Pretty sure im already banned at 2 viper forums, a volvo forum, 2 corvette forums, a Ferrari forum, a bike forum, a truck forum, a 4X4 forum...

I dont have very many more places to go, to be honest...

People dont like to hear an honest opinion...

sanchez

11-20-2013, 8:37pm

Everyone I ever knew that owned one of those ended up spinning it. At speed, in a straight line.

If you really are going to get it, please be careful. That's a lot of car.

RED-85-Z51

11-20-2013, 8:37pm

I'd certainly pay for an inspection to see what it might need. The ad claims he just put new tires and brakes on it.

Its a Viper...the first thing you do, by law, is melt the rear tires, smoke the clutch, and boil the brakes off it....

but really, I can afford it, but its not practical, I could pickup a lower miles C5, or even a mid miles C5Z...and have a more practical car...I dont think it would be a faster car...but, more of a driver.

Mirroredshades

11-20-2013, 8:39pm

What's funny is you see NSXs that age with 150K+ all the time...and they sell for twice that. I hear that gen Viper is miserable to drive, that's why the miles are always so low. I'd still love to have one though, for a little while.

Charlotte Hits 300,000 Miles On Her 21st Birthday (http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/175699-Charlotte-Hits-300-000-Miles-On-Her-21st-Birthday)

:D

vetteman9368

11-20-2013, 9:29pm

My first love was the Red Viper in the late night CBS Tv series "Viper" that transformed into the silver "defender" car...

That sound...those pipes..THAT SOUND.

I hear that same sound every time the ups truck drives off

Steve Austin

11-20-2013, 9:31pm

New oil pump. Makes me think, low oil pressure so they put in a pump. Real issue, thin bearings. I could still go for it if it was a true coupe. I just have a thing about that. Took the top off my Vette once in 4 years. It rained that day.

snide

11-20-2013, 10:26pm

Go check it out and make an offer. What's the worst that can happen?

:cheers:

Craig

11-20-2013, 10:41pm

Go check it out and make an offer. What's the worst that can happen?

:cheers:

Buying it, probably...

Sea Six

11-20-2013, 10:42pm

Go check it out and make an offer. What's the worst that can happen?

:cheers:

:iagree:

It's a very cool car.

vetteman9368

11-20-2013, 11:03pm

Go check it out and make an offer. What's the worst that can happen?

:cheers:

He buys it, gets laid, and the world ends up with a little redlet

DukeAllen

11-21-2013, 2:13am

He buys it, gets laid, and the world ends up with a little redlet

Wait...his '85 didn't get him laid?:confused5:

HOWSER

11-21-2013, 7:34am

...my problem would be, when anything broke, Id be f*cked deep, deep in the ass. Rear tires..about 600 each. Brakes, probably 250 a corner, clutch, easily 1200 for a decent one.

but really, I can afford it...

You and I share different meanings of afford.
:rofl:

onedef92

11-21-2013, 11:06am

That's the highest millage I've ever seen on one of those, by a factor of five.

odometer: 189100

Whoa! Ol' girl got rode hard!

Millenium Vette

11-21-2013, 11:30am

odometer: 189100

Whoa! Ol' girl got rode hard!

Doesn't mean she can't still put out though.

:cert:

Joecooool

11-21-2013, 11:43am

My neighbor had one of those and I rode with him from Jacksonville to Daytona in it. That engine put out more heat than the AC could keep up with. With the AC blasting I still sweated like a pig the whole trip.

simpleman68

11-21-2013, 11:48am

Damn Red, if you want gobs of power and better handling, I'll sell you my '04 C5 for not much more than that. You'd have better handling and be able to walk that Viper with little effort.
And mine only has about 10k on the entire drivetrain and 90k total since I bought her new.
Scott

GRN ENVY

11-21-2013, 11:56am

onedef92

11-21-2013, 12:12pm

Doesn't mean she can't still put out though.

:cert:

True. It ain't the years, it's the miles, right? :seasix:

simpleman68

11-21-2013, 12:28pm

that very tempting if you are really selling it!!!

:yesnod:
Have a guy locally that is very interested but I haven't sent him pictures/details yet.
I'd be more than comfortable selling it to somebody I know.

It's an animal but very streetable and I just don't have the time to drive her much anymore.
Scott

RedLS1GTO

11-21-2013, 12:33pm

I've had the pleasure and simultaneous displeasure of driving a few of them... short of taking 1 to the track or turning one into what is essentially expensive garage art, there is absolutely no way in hell that I would ever own one.

I love looking at them and there is no denying their cool factor, but for street use they are hands down, without a doubt the most absolutely miserable driving experience of any car I have ever been in. How the hell someone managed to put that many miles on one is beyond me.

Craig

11-21-2013, 12:56pm

RED-85-Z51

11-21-2013, 1:35pm

Cant be worse than an 85 Vette. No room, suspension is stiff as a board, A/C sucks. uncomfortable ot drive.

Craig

11-21-2013, 1:41pm

Cant be worse than an 85 Vette. No room, suspension is stiff as a board, A/C sucks. uncomfortable ot drive.

Also my understanding of the experience. :lol:

RED-85-Z51

11-21-2013, 1:44pm

I dailt drove my 85 from 2003 til like 2007, I put over 50K miles on it...i loved it.

I hated it

GRN ENVY

11-21-2013, 1:45pm

:yesnod:
Have a guy locally that is very interested but I haven't sent him pictures/details yet.
I'd be more than comfortable selling it to somebody I know.

It's an animal but very streetable and I just don't have the time to drive her much anymore.
Scott

Yeah I still smile thinking of when I drove it at BR II

Sea Six

11-21-2013, 1:54pm

I love looking at them and there is no denying their cool factor, but for street use they are hands down, without a doubt the most absolutely miserable driving experience of any car I have ever been in. How the hell someone managed to put that many miles on one is beyond me.

The same could be said of several sports cars, including many Corvette models.

If you want comfort, get a big ol' luxury car... ya fat bastards.

RedLS1GTO

11-21-2013, 3:47pm

The same could be said of several sports cars, including many Corvette models.

If you want comfort, get a big ol' luxury car... ya fat bastards.

I have driven Corvettes of every generation, including an early C4 Z51 as a daily driver and a C5Z with massive sways, stiff coilovers, a hard mounted seat, and an obnoxiously loud exhaust.. There isn't 1 even close to being as miserably uncomfortable as the Gen1 Viper.

Not.

Even.

Close.

onedef92

11-21-2013, 3:51pm

I have driven Corvettes of every generation, including an early C4 Z51 as a daily driver and a C5Z with massive sways, stiff coilovers, a hard mounted seat, and an obnoxiously loud exhaust.. There isn't 1 even close to being as miserably uncomfortable as the Gen1 Viper.

Not.

Even.

Close.

The Mazda Miata and Lotus Elise have very intimate cockpits, too. :yesnod:

RedLS1GTO

11-21-2013, 3:54pm

Cant be worse than an 85 Vette. No room, suspension is stiff as a board, A/C sucks. uncomfortable ot drive.

Take that C4, light a bonfire under your ass, cut the mufflers off, roll the windows down just enough to get an asinine amount of wind noise, and fill a coffee can with pennies to roll around on the floor for good measure.

You just created the perfect Viper simulator.

vetteman9368

11-21-2013, 4:41pm

a buddy of mine has an ACR viper. Fun car but damn if most race cars aren't more comfortable

Fastguy

11-21-2013, 4:49pm

The Mazda Miata and Lotus Elise have very intimate cockpits, too. :yesnod:

I just put JIC Magic Coilovers in mine and they are making it less and less enjoyable to drive. Almost looking forward to winter where I drive my truck.

MrPeabody

11-21-2013, 4:51pm

The Mazda Miata and Lotus Elise have very intimate cockpits, too. :yesnod:

If I bought an Elise, it would have to come with a Chiropractor.

RED-85-Z51

11-21-2013, 5:22pm

lspencer534

11-21-2013, 6:21pm

The same could be said of several sports cars, including many Corvette models.

If you want comfort, get a big ol' luxury car... ya fat bastards.

Or you could do what I found out years ago: Drive a Jaguar. They're comfortable, excellent handling, fast cars. They do not ride and drive like a Lexus 460, in which you feel nothing and hear nothing...everything I hate about a car. You have real road feel and a throaty exhaust.

Many years they tie with Lexus for quality, and they have very good resale value. A base XK has 420 HP. If speed is your object, a super-charged version has 515 HP, enough to smoke most Corvettes and Aston Martins, plus they have the stopping distance of an Porsche. You can also get one with 550 HP.

A new one costs more than the most expnsive Corvette, but you can buy a 3-4 year-old one for the same money (or less) than the Vette.

kylebuck

11-21-2013, 7:48pm

buy a new z71... best decision ever.

Millenium Vette

11-21-2013, 10:45pm

Take that C4, light a bonfire under your ass, cut the mufflers off, roll the windows down just enough to get an asinine amount of wind noise, and fill a coffee can with pennies to roll around on the floor for good measure.

You just created the perfect Viper simulator.

About the only thing I would add is burning your left calf on that hellacious bonfire as you get out of the damn thing. You only do that once, by the way.

:shots:

Burro (He/Haw)

11-21-2013, 11:05pm

Clown shoe styling. Not a fan of the first generation Viper.

onedef92

11-22-2013, 8:49am

If I bought an Elise, it would have to come with a Chiropractor.

I daily commute approx. 88 miles to and from work. I would be hard-pressed to drive one that distance as a seasonal toy, let alone a daily beater. Damn capable track car, though.