View Full Version : Took 5 laps in Camaro ZL1 today...
Datawiz
10-05-2013, 4:47pm
Opinion.
First off, it was an automatic, so that was an instant negative. That being said, it did have the paddle shifters, which are vastly different than the Corvette. On Corvette, both rears are downshift and both fronts are upshift. Now they are left is down and right is up. This is just fine for road racing, but horrible for autocross. Our turns are so much tighter, and if you are a shuffle steerer, it's very difficult to upshift when you need to if you're not going straight.
Power:
With 580 HP, this car is a HOOT! On a road course once again, it would be fun, even with the automatic. In autocross, the lack of linear power delivery is a major ugly.
Weight:
4,120#'s. Enough said.
Visibility:
Big hood and HUGE A-pilar. Very hard to see out of.
Over all opinion:
Extremely fun to drive. If someone bought me one (in manual), I'd likely keep it. Seats are way better than the C6 Corvette, at least mine. I know the later ones were better.
Fun car...yes. Autocross car....absolutely NO. I can't wait to try the Z28. I think that's going to be an entirely different story.
Will post a video from it a bit later. Currently uploading videos and changing tires. Today was fun. I got to drive so many students cars today. First time i took the Z06 back to the track in 3 months and it was like Disney Land. Everyone wanted a ride in my car and for me to drive their cars. I must have taken 20 laps in students cars today. BMW 335i, Porsche 911, C5 Corvette Z06 with heads/cams and supercharger. (660 to the wheels) and a few other interesting ones.
Oh yeah, took one lap in Marcus' Z06, beat him by 8/10ths :D
:hurray:
Datawiz
10-05-2013, 8:02pm
Video. Fastest lap.
2013 Camaro ZL1 Autocross - YouTube
:seasix: Video is unavailable though.
Jeff '79
10-05-2013, 8:14pm
I drove one that is a Tonawanda Engine Plant, DM's car.
It was fun to tear up the road with someone else's toy, who didn't care how hard that I beat it. It was a 6 speed too...:seasix:
JRD77VET
10-05-2013, 8:14pm
:seasix: Video is unavailable though.
works now :yesnod:
...Whitepower...
10-05-2013, 8:37pm
Whatever happened Ed to that scud driver and that accident?
Datawiz
10-05-2013, 8:55pm
:seasix: Video is unavailable though.
Posted link too soon, as it was still processing. Should be viewable now. :seasix:
Datawiz
10-05-2013, 8:58pm
Whatever happened Ed to that scud driver and that accident?
Have not heard the details as to who was driving, or any other details into the case, but have heard from Rad. No further details as to who was behind the wheel or more on the events of that night.
...Whitepower...
10-05-2013, 9:10pm
You think he was driving?
Datawiz
10-05-2013, 9:14pm
You think he was driving?
We talking about the Ferrari? If so, I still have no clue. It's quite possible he was not. His wife is the second name named being represented by the attorney on record. Still, no clue. Prayers that it wasn't Rad.
69camfrk
10-05-2013, 9:42pm
I am sort of not getting the whole Z/28 thing. It is going to cost more than the ZL1, less hp, and in reality, they only shaved like a 100 lbs off the damn thing. So, what is the point other than you get Z/28 emblems and a car with less performance? I suppose I'm still stuck on my first gen Camaro, which of course unless I put countless thousands of dollars in the suspension to make it handle, is a much cooler car. For the money, I would buy a Corvette every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Datawiz
10-06-2013, 5:09am
I am sort of not getting the whole Z/28 thing. It is going to cost more than the ZL1, less hp, and in reality, they only shaved like a 100 lbs off the damn thing. So, what is the point other than you get Z/28 emblems and a car with less performance? I suppose I'm still stuck on my first gen Camaro, which of course unless I put countless thousands of dollars in the suspension to make it handle, is a much cooler car. For the money, I would buy a Corvette every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
When the Z/28 concept came out, the rumors were more like 300 pounds with the LS7. THAT would have been great. 100 pounds is still a 4,000 pound car, so that sucks. :(
As far as liner power goes, the LS7 is much more useful, but that weight is still the killer.
69camfrk
10-06-2013, 6:13pm
When the Z/28 concept came out, the rumors were more like 300 pounds with the LS7. THAT would have been great. 100 pounds is still a 4,000 pound car, so that sucks. :(
As far as liner power goes, the LS7 is much more useful, but that weight is still the killer.
Mustangs are still going to rip it out of the frame. With minimal effort, supercharging the 5.0 liters can get you up past 700 rwhp in short order. I mean hell, new injectors, pump, supercharger, computer flash, exhaust, and you are in. I really feel like Chevy is completely overpricing the Camaros and it is going to end up biting them in the ass. I've driven a SS with a manual, and it felt like a brick. The new Stangs I've driven felt like the were never gonna quit diggin'.
When the Z/28 concept came out, the rumors were more like 300 pounds with the LS7. THAT would have been great. 100 pounds is still a 4,000 pound car, so that sucks. :(
As far as liner power goes, the LS7 is much more useful, but that weight is still the killer.
When I get mine, I'll tear it all apart, and start drilling holes to remove material. Should be able to lighten it up by a few hundred pounds.
:leaving:
Datawiz
10-06-2013, 8:04pm
When I get mine, I'll tear it all apart, and start drilling holes to remove material. Should be able to lighten it up by a few hundred pounds.
:leaving:
Gonna let me drive it? :D
Gonna let me drive it? :D
Well, of course! :lol:
:cheers:
Mirroredshades
10-06-2013, 9:13pm
I suppose I'm still stuck on my first gen Camaro, which of course unless I put countless thousands of dollars in the suspension to make it handle, is a much cooler car.
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs. Mark Stielow's Red Devil '69 Camaro - HOT ROD Unlimited Episode 13 - YouTube
69camfrk
10-07-2013, 7:13am
2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs. Mark Stielow's Red Devil '69 Camaro - HOT ROD Unlimited Episode 13 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-Y2Hvnfrg)
Mark Stielow is a freakin' automotive genius. My car is set up no where like that, but I did use his Detroit Speed sub frame connectors. I will be going to VA soon to retrieve my car from the body shop where it has been since December. Except for a few interior trim pieces, it is done. Pics will be posted when I get it back. I'm hoping the decision to take it from driver quality to show quality was not a bad one on my part.
Nemesis
10-07-2013, 12:43pm
Cool car! I'm not opposed to paddles anymore. I don't know if I'd say they allow for heightened concentration, but definitely a different kind of concentration.
We talking about the Ferrari? If so, I still have no clue. It's quite possible he was not. His wife is the second name named being represented by the attorney on record. Still, no clue. Prayers that it wasn't Rad.
Not to go off on a tangent, but did I miss a topic?
Datawiz
10-07-2013, 12:58pm
Cool car! I'm not opposed to paddles anymore. I don't know if I'd say they allow for heightened concentration, but definitely a different kind of concentration.
Not to go off on a tangent, but did I miss a topic?
This happened awhile back. He's my good friend.
Meet Radomin Delgado: Owner of Ferrari in I-75 Hit-And-Run (http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/08/radomin_delgado_ferarri_crash.php)
Nemesis
10-07-2013, 1:14pm
This happened awhile back. He's my good friend.
Meet Radomin Delgado: Owner of Ferrari in I-75 Hit-And-Run (http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/08/radomin_delgado_ferarri_crash.php)
That's awful.
The article really painted a picture of a terrible man.
Joecooool
10-07-2013, 1:25pm
Why on earth would anyone buy that car with an auto transmission?
Datawiz
10-07-2013, 1:41pm
Why on earth would anyone buy that car with an auto transmission?
Very good question. :lol:
Nemesis
10-07-2013, 2:11pm
Why on earth would anyone buy that car with an auto transmission?
What's the sticker? More than your average mid 20's-30's year old can afford?
Datawiz
10-07-2013, 2:23pm
What's the sticker? More than your average mid 20's-30's year old can afford?
The as shown price of the one on Chevy's website is $56K
Nemesis
10-07-2013, 2:52pm
The as shown price of the one on Chevy's website is $56K
Oddly low. Then, the website doesn't let you build your own.
I still can't afford a $56k car.
Entropy
10-07-2013, 2:54pm
Why on earth would anyone buy that car with an auto transmission?
1. Drag racing (the only legitimate reason).
2. Waxer mentality.
I'll bet 95%+ of those sold with auto fall in category 2.
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