View Full Version : America's Cup
Kiwi's win first race, second race in about 15 min. those boats are awesome.
and New Zealand takes race 2.
marrepka
09-07-2013, 5:51pm
and New Zealand takes race 2.
We got spanked!
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 1:07am
Replay: AMERICA'S CUP FINAL - RACES 1&2 - YouTube
Jeff '79
09-08-2013, 7:37am
Kiwi's win first race, second race in about 15 min. those boats are awesome.
:iagree: They are awesome :yesnod:
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 12:11pm
Don't forget, we've got a two race penalty for cheating, so they've got to win 9 to take the cup, and we have to win 11 to keep it.
DJ_Critterus
09-08-2013, 12:12pm
What happened to the single hull racing?
Jeff '79
09-08-2013, 12:13pm
Don't forget, we've got a two race penalty for cheating, so they've got to win 9 to take the cup, and we have to win 11 to keep it.
Barring a terrorist attack on the Kiwi boat, we just can't come back from a penalty like that.
The US should have put the boat on the trailer and just left after the penalty was given.
DJ_Critterus
09-08-2013, 12:15pm
Barring a terrorist attack on the Kiwi boat, we just can't come back from a penalty like that.
The US should have put the boat on the trailer and just left after the penalty was given.
What was the penalty for?
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 12:27pm
What was the penalty for?
Last year they ran 45 foot versions of the big boats in a run-up series meant to acclimate everyone with the wingsail cats. The 45' boats were supposed to be single design, identical across all the teams. Oracle was found to have modified their boat with weight.
Jeff '79
09-08-2013, 12:28pm
What was the penalty for?
They jumped the start. It was legit but too harsh imo.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 12:29pm
Barring a terrorist attack on the Kiwi boat, we just can't come back from a penalty like that.
The US should have put the boat on the trailer and just left after the penalty was given.
We can, and we will.
Yesterday the wind favored the Kiwis in race 1 and we were down a sailor and then our boat was damaged for race 2.
I have high hopes for today.
As for the penalty... it's a fair cop, and the penalty is severe, but justified, IMO. If we were challenging, rather than defending, my opinion might have differed.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 2:10pm
AMERICA'S CUP FINAL - RACES 3&4 - YouTube
Stream goes live at 4pmEDT
AMERICA'S CUP FINAL - RACES 3&4 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNM7DSd4P2o)
Stream goes live at 4pmEDT
also on NBC now.
looks a little foggy.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 3:13pm
also on NBC now.
looks a little foggy.
This will be interesting for the broadcast folks, limited long shots.
DJ_Critterus
09-08-2013, 3:16pm
I was kind of amazed to see the power boats being outrun by some of the those catamarans yesterday. I think the average speed they were doing was around 40 knots.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 3:25pm
I was kind of amazed to see the power boats being outrun by some of the those catamarans yesterday. I think the average speed they were doing was around 40 knots.
It's wind-powered F1. I am a bit of a single-hull purist, but I can't deny these boats are badass.
DJ_Critterus
09-08-2013, 3:26pm
It makes me want to get my 18' Hobie cat back int he water. I'm thinking next weekend if my knees aren't hurting too much will be a good time to do that.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 3:28pm
F*ckin' hell. This might be close...
Jeff '79
09-08-2013, 3:28pm
Some great views of SF...:seasix:
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 3:30pm
Damn Kiwis are too fast... Has a challenger ever swept a defender?
DJ_Critterus
09-08-2013, 3:32pm
Damn Kiwis are too fast... Has a challenger ever swept a defender?
We shall soon find out.
Damn Kiwis are too fast... Has a challenger ever swept a defender?
yup.
America's Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Cup)
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 3:43pm
Nothing like being beaten with the boat you wanted, at home, in front of a record crowd.
kiwis win again.
US had the lead, but couldn't keep it.
looks to be a short regatta.
99 pewtercoupe
09-08-2013, 4:07pm
Actually, sweeps are more common in this event than any other comparable event in sports
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 4:15pm
Motherfu*cker.
Motherfu*cker.
Aukland is very nice, so is Christ Church.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 4:23pm
Aukland is very nice, so is Christ Church.
Been to both actually, couple times each. Wellington is nice too.
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 4:24pm
Kiwis won't drop a jibe like that.
Been to both actually, couple times each. Wellington is nice too.
flew thru Auckland a few times, spent some time in CC on way to and from McMurdo.
US wins #4.
NZ - 3
US - (-)1
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 4:39pm
Actually, sweeps are more common in this event than any other comparable event in sports
Not this year. :seasix:
ApexOversteer
09-08-2013, 4:48pm
flew thru Auckland a few times, spent some time in CC on way to and from McMurdo.
I was there for 6 months in 1999/2000 and again in 2004. I'll get back again.
99 pewtercoupe
09-08-2013, 5:14pm
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ikbmeg.jpg
Of course I want the USA to win but I was just stating this event is so lopsided. If 74 percent of winners are in sweeps, what is the come from behind ratio?
DukeAllen
09-08-2013, 5:25pm
I miss the days when it was rigged so the US won every time :D
Dr. Jacoby
09-09-2013, 10:24am
I don't understand how these boats are USA or New Zealand. Looks to me that most of the crew on the USA oracle are foreign. Must just be where the teams are based, but that really doesn't mean much. Something lost over time due to the blurring of lines.
Grey Ghost
09-09-2013, 10:59am
I miss the days when it was rigged so the US won every time :D
They need Brian France in charge. I watched some of it. Not enough imaginary debris cautions, etc...
Team USA is getting their asses handed to them in race 5....
next race in about 15 min. if Kiwis win, Cup heads to Auckland.
ApexOversteer
09-24-2013, 9:28pm
next race in about 15 min. if Kiwis win, Cup heads to Auckland.
... and for 5 days, it has been this way. All NZ needed was one win. The US needed 7.
Tomorrow's race 19 will be the decider. Winner take all. The US has absolutely CANED them, ending in a race where USA just flat out floored it and pulled out and passed. The Kiwis were thrashed.
It has been amazing to watch.
Indeed. What a series.
1:00pm Wednesday for last race. Gun at 1:15pm.
:ohnoes:
ApexOversteer
09-24-2013, 9:38pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb164/ApexOversteer/Gen%20II/cup.png
Note: If you're just joining us now, The event is a race to 9. Team USA was docked 2 points before the event, as penalty for cheating in a run-up series last year. USA needs 11 wins total, NZ just needs the 9.
Sea Six
09-25-2013, 5:19am
:ohnoes:
erickpl
09-25-2013, 9:01am
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb164/ApexOversteer/Gen%20II/cup.png
Note: If you're just joining us now, The event is a race to 9. Team USA was docked 2 points before the event, as penalty for cheating in a run-up series last year. USA needs 11 wins total, NZ just needs the 9.
So what did the US team change after race 11? :)
And is it legal? :)
Burro (He/Haw)
09-25-2013, 9:16am
:ohnoes:
I can hardly stand it myself.
I'm curious, is there anything Apex isn't an authority on? Anything at all? :lol:
ApexOversteer
09-25-2013, 11:10am
I can hardly stand it myself.
I'm curious, is there anything Apex isn't an authority on? Anything at all? :lol:
Tools, guns, golf, aquariums, trees and apparently I'm terrible at carpentry, masonry, landscaping, cunnilingus and reversing a trailer... among many other things.
ApexOversteer
09-25-2013, 11:18am
So what did the US team change after race 11? :)
And is it legal? :)
After race 3 they moved a couple guys around the crew and went with a new strategist. I think it was after race 7 that they changed the boat, moving a bit of weight off the nose.
Other that that, it really came down to learning how to use the boat in the conditions, by watching Team NZ and seeing what they were doing differently.
Took a few days for Team USA to figure out how to jibe without falling off the hydrofoils, and just how aggressive they could be with the VMG (Velocity Made Good, or the difference between actual boat speed, and angle of attack on the wind, giving actual speed toward the next mark). Both of those bits of knowledge really helped Team USA on the upwind legs, where we were being beaten mostly in the first week of racing.
Ol Timer
09-25-2013, 11:41am
Tools, guns, golf, aquariums, trees and apparently I'm terrible at carpentry, masonry, landscaping, cunnilingus and reversing a trailer... among many other things.
cunnilingus while reversing a trailer is difficult for most of us...
Stangkiller
09-25-2013, 3:19pm
And they're off!
Last gate coming up. US has a huge lead.
What an amazing comeback.
Stangkiller
09-25-2013, 3:47pm
What an amazing comeback.
tell me about it, they plowed into the water on the first marker, and still managed a 700+ meter win?
marrepka
09-25-2013, 3:51pm
Amazing, I thought we were doomed when this started. :hurray:
ConstantChange
09-25-2013, 3:54pm
WOOOOHOOOO!!!! :dance:
Fastguy
09-25-2013, 7:54pm
Saw them last year in Newport, they are stupid fast in person.
ApexOversteer
09-25-2013, 9:20pm
Wow, just damn!
99 pewtercoupe
09-25-2013, 9:25pm
Will go down as one of the greatest "come from behind wins" in sports:seasix:
Jeff '79
09-26-2013, 7:09pm
Barring a terrorist attack on the Kiwi boat, we just can't come back from a penalty like that.
The US should have put the boat on the trailer and just left after the penalty was given.
We can, and we will.
Yesterday the wind favored the Kiwis in race 1 and we were down a sailor and then our boat was damaged for race 2.
I have high hopes for today.
As for the penalty... it's a fair cop, and the penalty is severe, but justified, IMO. If we were challenging, rather than defending, my opinion might have differed.
My apologies Apex... I'm in disbelief over that amazing comeback.
I wish that I could have watched that last race, but I missed it.
Wow!
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.