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Kerrmudgeon
07-30-2013, 6:07pm
Value of Engineering?

You don't have to be an engineer to appreciate this story, in fact it's probably not funny to one at all. :rofl:


A toothpaste factory had a problem. They sometimes shipped empty boxes without the tube inside. This challenged their perceived quality with the buyers and distributors. Understanding how important the relationship with them was, the CEO of the company assembled his top people. They decided to hire an external engineering company to solve their empty boxes problem. The project followed the usual process: budget and project sponsor allocated, RFP, and third-parties selected. Six months (and $8 million) later they had a fantastic solution - on time, on budget, and high quality. Everyone in the project was pleased. They solved the problem by using a high-tech precision scale that would sound a bell and flash lights whenever a toothpaste box weighed less than it should. The line would stop, someone would walk over, remove the defective box, and then press another button to re-start the line.

As a result of the new package monitoring process, no empty boxes were being shipped out of the factory. With no more customer complaints, the CEO felt the $8 million was well spent. He then reviewed the line statistics report and discovered the number of empty boxes picked up by the scale in the first week was consistent with projections, however, the next three weeks were zero! The estimated rate should have been at least a dozen boxes a day. He had the engineers check the equipment, they verified the report as accurate.

Puzzled, the CEO traveled down to the factory, viewed the part of the line where the precision scale was installed, and observed just ahead of the new $8 million dollar solution sat a $20 desk fan blowing the empty boxes off the belt and into a bin. He asked the line supervisor what that was about. "Oh, that," the supervisor replied, "Bert, the kid from maintenance, put it there because he was tired of walking over every time the bell rang."

:D

Bill
07-30-2013, 6:11pm
I want to be the salesman that sold them the $ 8M system.

:leaving:

NeedSpeed
07-30-2013, 6:11pm
:funnier:

C5SilverBullet
07-30-2013, 6:16pm
:lol::lol::lol:

DAB
07-30-2013, 7:06pm
ask a lazy guy, he'll usually get you a very simple and cheap solution.

i once got paid about $100 to solve a problem...that saved the owner of a hotel about $750,000. boss bid the job wrong. :slap:

ConstantChange
07-30-2013, 7:10pm
i once got paid about $100 to solve a problem...that saved the owner of a hotel about $750,000. boss bid the job wrong. :slap:

Been there. Done that. If I was paid 10% of the money I saved people a year I'd be a lot better off financially than I am now.

Blue 92
07-30-2013, 7:47pm
I want to be the salesman that sold them the $ 8M system.

:leaving:

It was Joe Cool.... :rofl:

8Up
07-30-2013, 7:57pm
He must had hired a mechanical engineering group when he needed electrical:D

mrvette
07-30-2013, 8:04pm
Walk through metal detector company, field service....

pulse field, RF, would not have made any difference....

inductive loop outside the archway, broke the induction, no more exterior field induction, worked as designed.....the customer engineer was 'shocked'.....

:rofl::dance::seasix::lol:

Craig
07-30-2013, 9:28pm
Been there. Done that. If I was paid 10% of the money I saved people a year I'd be a lot better off financially than I am now.

...or the amount of money I've tried to save a client; government clients are the worst...

Scaleman
07-30-2013, 9:46pm
For that kind of cabbage I could sell you a hundred top of the line 70' X 11' truck scales. Installed, including the concrete foundations.

Or 1600 analytical balances.

Or 22858 price computing deli scales.

:leaving:

Aerovette
07-30-2013, 10:30pm
I want to be the salesman that sold them the $ 8M system.

:leaving:

I would have personally checked every single box for half that amount.

Dave
07-31-2013, 6:12am
For that kind of cabbage I could sell you a hundred top of the line 70' X 11' truck scales. Installed, including the concrete foundations.

Or 1600 analytical balances.

Or 22858 price computing deli scales.

:leaving:

What I really need is a nice deli slicer for home to cut pepperoni nice & thin. Have one of those?


I'm thinking that even if the story is true (and it may well be) the $8M figure is completely fabricated.

StaticCling
07-31-2013, 6:29am
The wife of an engineer tells him to go to the store and get a gallon of milk...AND...if they have eggs, get a dozen.


The engineer comes home with 12 gallons of milk. The wife says, "WHY DID YOU BUY 12 Gallons of MILK!" -- Engineer says, "They had eggs".

Doug28450
07-31-2013, 8:16am
Why did the engineer cross the road?

He look in the files and that is what he did last year.

Doug28450
07-31-2013, 8:17am
An optimist says the glass is half full.

A pessimist says the glass is half empty.

An engineer says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

DAB
07-31-2013, 9:22am
good design and good engineering solve the problem at hand simply, cheaply, and with some dash of elegance.

73sbVert
07-31-2013, 11:47am
good design and good engineering solve the problem at hand simply, cheaply, and with some dash of elegance.

Absolutely correct.

:seasix:

C5Nate
07-31-2013, 11:52am
The wife of an engineer tells him to go to the store and get a gallon of milk...AND...if they have eggs, get a dozen.


The engineer comes home with 12 gallons of milk. The wife says, "WHY DID YOU BUY 12 Gallons of MILK!" -- Engineer says, "They had eggs".


:rofl:


Sounds like a conversation the wife and I had this morning.

C5Nate
07-31-2013, 11:57am
inductive loop outside the archway, broke the induction, no more exterior field induction, worked as designed.....the customer engineer was 'shocked'.....

:rofl::dance::seasix::lol:


in·duc·tive adj. (n-dktv) - loop (lp) n.


1) A term used successfully by engineers to confuse those with little or no electronic knowledge that this was the actual issue causing the problem. When in fact, the thing just started working again on its own.

mrvette
07-31-2013, 1:57pm
in·duc·tive adj. (n-dktv) - loop (lp) n.


1) A term used successfully by engineers to confuse those with little or no electronic knowledge that this was the actual issue causing the problem. When in fact, the thing just started working again on its own.

It was a pulse field detector, and as such is a lot more stable in a high EMI background.....we even had a Some millisecond (can't remember the count) interrupt in case of some machinery/power surge causing a large false signal....

but the trick was, in this case....some power plant or other, they had a metal archway of some sort next to our detector, trick was the threshold completed an inductive loop, and when it was stepped on, the loop was broken, setting off the stable magnetic environment the detector was stabilized /balanced on.....so to put in a wood threshold or maybe better yet, nothing....I found the problem, and left the job site, .....

it was a funny job, as so many customer/company engineers had NO CLUE about pulse field/decay which was how our detectors worked, the best in the industry at the time....FAR more stable than the RF competition.....

:seasix::hurray:

Bill
07-31-2013, 7:13pm
I would have personally checked every single box for half that amount.

I'll keep you in mind for subcontract work.