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JRD77VET
06-21-2013, 7:41pm
The battle to build the next “Beast” has begun.

The Department of Homeland Security has opened bidding for the contract to design and engineer the next presidential limousine. Applications to be considered for the project were due this week, and a winner will be chosen by Sept. 29, but due to the sensitive nature of the vehicle, it’s likely we won’t know anything more about it until the new car enters service, possibly as early as 2015.

A spokesperson for the U.S. Secret Service confirmed that the department is looking into purchasing the next generation limo, but couldn’t offer further comment.

According to the request for information posted on FedBizOpps.gov, work on the New Design Armored Limousine “will include concept development, armor design, initial automotive component selection and chassis development, material testing, armor system modeling and simulation, and armor system fabrication and testing (live fire).”

Phase one of the process is merely to vet the capabilities and clearances of interested parties, with the specific vehicle requirements revealed only to those that make it to phase two, a decision scheduled to be made on June 24th.

Read: Fox News drives "The Beast"

The current presidential limo is branded a Cadillac, and ostensibly built by General Motors, but additional security vehicle specialists were certainly involved in its development.

Details on the vehicle -- often referred to as "Cadillac One" or "The Beast" -- remain top secret, including its price and exactly how many of them exist, but while it looks like a sedan, it is widely believed to be built on the chassis of a medium duty GM truck in order to accommodate armoring capable of withstanding direct strikes from rocket-propelled grenades and improvised explosive devices, a suite of electronic communications and jamming equipment, and a sealed air system to protect against gas attacks.

Since 1939, every presidential limousine has either been a Lincoln or Cadillac, with Lincoln providing all but one of the vehicles through 1993.

When contacted by FoxNews.com, Cadillac had no comment as to whether or not it is currently involved in the bidding for new vehicle, while Ford and Chrysler said they are not. So it looks like any chance of President Obama being reunited with a version of the Chrysler 300 he once owned before he took office will have to wait until he leaves it.

Then again, the Detroit Three may come into play at a later date. One industry insider says this stage is probably more focused on finding the contractors who will develop the highly specialized platform before bringing in an automobile manufacturer as it moves closer to production.

Although typically not used as an advertising peg, the prestige that comes with being the official car of the president is incalculable. But a Cadillac spokesperson said its involvement is really about serving the nation and that “it’s an honor and privilege to participate in the tradition.”


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Nice to see mr "cuts across the board" doesn't apply to him yet again :issues:

What's wrong with the current ones? Somebody else had them built and the fuhrer wants his own?

99 pewtercoupe
06-21-2013, 8:01pm
Must be because the present user is afraid "The Beast" doesnt offer enough protection against the citizens of this country that are totally fed up with him

FasterTraffic
06-21-2013, 8:06pm
Must be because the present user is afraid "The Beast" doesnt offer enough protection against the citizens of this country that are totally fed up with him

Whoever builds the next one needs to add some extra microphones.

JRD77VET
06-21-2013, 8:06pm
Must be because the present user is afraid "The Beast" doesnt offer enough protection against the citizens of this country that are totally fed up with him

Maybe he should follow the Constitution instead of trashing it and acting like an elitist :mad:

99 pewtercoupe
06-21-2013, 8:07pm
Whoever builds the next one needs to add some extra microphones.

And teleprompters!

VatorMan
06-21-2013, 8:19pm
The only cuts Nobama has made is to stop White House tours. So now no regular American can go to the White House, only his elitist friends. And the NBA champs of course.

ApexOversteer
06-21-2013, 8:36pm
Nice to see mr "cuts across the board" doesn't apply to him yet again :issues:

What's wrong with the current ones? Somebody else had them built and the fuhrer wants his own?

I'll lay diamonds to donuts that...

Starting now means actual vehicle is for the next guy.

and...

This is happening now as a reaction to the public display of the current vehicle's weaknesses that we saw in Ireland two years ago.

I can totally see it taking two years to figure out they can't fix the issue with the current platform.

ApexOversteer
06-21-2013, 9:03pm
:iagree:

I was under the impression a new ride was made for each PotUS. Could be wrong though.

Maybe back when they were based on road cars the norms could buy, beefed up and armoured.

Now, with these dedicated specials, I bet it's just not viable to do a new fleet every 4 years.

I wonder how many people think there are.

A motorcade uses what, four of them? So you know there are back-ups for those four, so there's 8 operational units for one motorcade.

I bet the overseas units are different than the domestic units, which are different than the DC units.

Suddenly I can imagine there being 50 operational units in the fleet.

Even if I'm wrong by half and there are only 25, that is still not feasible to build all new for each POTUS.

But, I could be wrong. :D

JRD77VET
06-21-2013, 9:03pm
I'll lay diamonds to donuts that...

Starting now means actual vehicle is for the next guy.

and...

This is happening now as a reaction to the public display of the current vehicle's weaknesses that we saw in Ireland two years ago.

I can totally see it taking two years to figure out they can't fix the issue with the current platform.

What happened in Ireland ( high centering the Limo ) was simply the idiot had idiots in charge of his route. As soon as the video started, I knew it was going to happen before it did.

ApexOversteer
06-21-2013, 9:05pm
What happened in Ireland ( high centering the Limo ) was simply the idiot had idiots in charge of his route. As soon as the video started, I knew it was going to happen before it did.

The why of it doesn't matter to the Secret Service now. What matters is the how. The vehicle came to a stop through an outside influence, and they just cannot have that.

99 pewtercoupe
06-21-2013, 9:06pm
But, I could be wrong. :D

What????? The End must be near! :D:D:D

MrPeabody
06-21-2013, 9:08pm
Maybe the fuel filler cap on the new one could say Diesel Only.:D

JRD77VET
06-21-2013, 9:10pm
The why of it doesn't matter to the Secret Service now. What matters is the how. The vehicle came to a stop through an outside influence, and they just cannot have that.

They screwed the pooch on that one.

First video that came up on YT :lol:

Obama's Limo Gets Stuck or High Centered on Ramp In Ireland - YouTube

ApexOversteer
06-21-2013, 9:14pm
They screwed the pooch on that one.

First video that came up on YT :lol:

Obama's Limo Gets Stuck or High Centered on Ramp In Ireland - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqsYCUluSA)

Yes, they did. I'm not an Obama supporter by any means, but this should never happen to a POTUS.

The route, the driver and the vehicle instantly became suspect and I'll bet the other two problems have already been solved.

snide
06-21-2013, 9:18pm
What's wrong with having, say, a convertible for the current prez?

JRD77VET
06-21-2013, 9:19pm
What's wrong with having, say, a convertible for the current prez?

Maybe like a LaBaron convertible :D

DAB
06-21-2013, 9:46pm
Abrams tank painted black.

Aerovette
06-21-2013, 10:41pm
People people people. This not about the limo. It is about JOB CREATION.:D

Fasglas
06-21-2013, 11:01pm
What's wrong with having, say, a convertible for the current prez?

Good idea, and since he likes golf so much...

http://www.scenicreflections.com/files/Smart%20car%20convertible%20Wallpaper__yvt2.jpg

RED-85-Z51
06-21-2013, 11:11pm
http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/politics-other-controversies/64282d1276833523-why-do-they-give-description-presidential-presidential-tank.jpg

RED-85-Z51
06-21-2013, 11:13pm
He should do one of his famous "apology tours" across the USA in a throwback...like lets say a Lincoln X-100...

http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/14144/1226191625m_SPLASH.jpg

C5SilverBullet
06-22-2013, 8:54am
They screwed the pooch on that one.

First video that came up on YT :lol:

Obama's Limo Gets Stuck or High Centered on Ramp In Ireland - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqsYCUluSA)

Damn, the sound that thing made when it hit is crazy.

C5SilverBullet
06-22-2013, 9:03am
This is from an article when Clinton got a new limo in 2001.

"We replace them on a need basis," Mackin said, adding that retired vehicles are used for driver training at the Secret Service's training center in Beltsville, Md.

mrvette
06-22-2013, 9:22am
This is from an article when Clinton got a new limo in 2001.

"We replace them on a need basis," Mackin said, adding that retired vehicles are used for driver training at the Secret Service's training center in Beltsville, Md.

SS may well have a facility in Beltsville......

but that's NOT where they learn how to drive, they train with FBI/any other .gov agency.....at Summit Point Racetrack, in Summit Point W. Va. many SCCA racers see the wrecked limos, cars, big full sized .gov type junk scattered to the side of the track almost any time they race....most get cleaned out pretty good though....but the evidence is plenty to see, most of my friends doing that work readily acknowledged this to be the case....

doubtful they found the land to build another large 2.5 mile track to train on....

:seasix:

FasterTraffic
06-22-2013, 10:51am
This is from an article when Clinton got a new limo in 2001.

"Need basis" actually means "stains on the upholstery."

6spdC6
06-22-2013, 11:31am
Well folks if you think the cost to replace the POTUS limos is high think what is going to cost to replace all the Air Force 1s the king and queen are wearing out. All those basically political trips he is taking and all the junkets Queen Moch is taking living her jet set life is going to run into significant money. Hey those slugs do not care after all is only taxpayer money, they can always raise taxes and get more.

onedef92
06-24-2013, 9:00am
Will the vanity plate on the back still read "DONK-1" and shit?

Craig
06-24-2013, 9:41am
Will it have 24" rims?

onedef92
06-24-2013, 10:10am
Yes, they did. I'm not an Obama supporter by any means, but this should never happen to a POTUS.



'You know who I am': Obama's presidential seal falls off podium during speech - YouTube

The day the national emblem fell off the podium was a pretty scathing rebuke, too, IMO.

erickpl
06-24-2013, 12:22pm
Damn, the sound that thing made when it hit is crazy.

Sounds just like that when I scrape over rocks when in the Jeep offroad. Thick metal sounds odd when scraping rock like that.