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I'm new at the concealed carry thing. I've got a S&W .40 semi auto, but it's too big for concealed carry. A friend has the Springfield XDs .45 and I got to shoot it tonight. I was pretty accurate with it. It's small for a .45 but the kic'ks not as bad as I expected. It's a very popular gun right now. Any opinions?
Chris Fowler
06-13-2013, 9:25pm
friend of mine has one. I've shot it several times.
It's nice.
A bit bigger than my M&P Shield .40, but not by much. Bit heavier too.
SnikPlosskin
06-13-2013, 9:32pm
friend of mine has one. I've shot it several times.
It's nice.
A bit bigger than my M&P Shield .40, but not by much. Bit heavier too.
:iagree:
How do you like the .40 Shield? I didn't like the ergonomics. I have a hard time with grips that are flat. My Berettas are shaped for your hand. But it makes them a little bigger (not as flat).
The .45 XDs is a better gun than the PX4 in terms of build quality. Wish I had one.
Mirroredshades
06-13-2013, 9:32pm
Love. It. Shoots great. Good quality. No regrets at all.
:seasix:
My only issue with it is that I use it as a pocket gun and it is kind of heavy for that format. It is fine in my work attire (suit pants, dockers, jeans etc) but it is way too heavy for shorts. I've also got a Ruger LCP that works better for the way I want to carry it. It's so small and light that I forget I have it.
Chris Fowler
06-13-2013, 9:40pm
:iagree:
How do you like the .40 Shield? I didn't like the ergonomics. I have a hard time with grips that are flat. My Berettas are shaped for your hand. But it makes them a little bigger (not as flat).
The .45 XDs is a better gun than the PX4 in terms of build quality. Wish I had one.
It's a little thin, but I don't have large hands, so it works ok for me. I can shoot it plenty well for personal defense. I pocket carry, so I wanted something as flat as possible.
If I'm shooting for accuracy I use one of my Glocks.
:iagree:
How do you like the .40 Shield? I didn't like the ergonomics. I have a hard time with grips that are flat. My Berettas are shaped for your hand. But it makes them a little bigger (not as flat).
The .45 XDs is a better gun than the PX4 in terms of build quality. Wish I had one.
I shot my .40 and the.45 side by side. My full size .40 was more comfortable to shoot, but it's too big to carry. The .45 is smaller and thinner, and didn't feel as nice shooting, but the trigger pull makes it easier to be accurate. It's got a grip and trigger safety like a traditional 1911, which I like. Nice gun and real popular. Anyone want to suggest something similar to look at?
Mirroredshades
06-13-2013, 9:56pm
Anyone want to suggest something similar to look at?
I'm a bit biased but if you want a small 45, there is no other gun to compare it to.
:)
Chris Fowler
06-13-2013, 9:57pm
I shot my .40 and the.45 side by side. My full size .40 was more comfortable to shoot, but it's too big to carry. The .45 is smaller and thinner, and didn't feel as nice shooting, but the trigger pull makes it easier to be accurate. It's got a grip and trigger safety like a traditional 1911, which I like. Nice gun and real popular. Anyone want to suggest something similar to look at?
Biased, but I would recommend shooting an M&P Shield for comparison.
I really like both, though. :yesnod:
It's got a grip and trigger safety like a traditional 1911, which I like. Nice gun and real popular. Anyone want to suggest something similar to look at?
I love my Kimber Ultra Carry.
I went shopping with a very open mind, and I loved it the first time I held one.
Biased, but I would recommend shooting an M&P Shield for comparison.
I really like both, though. :yesnod:
I'll see if I can find one to shoot, thanks. I've got a few weeks before my CC permit arrives.
While on the subject, who orders ammo on line? What's a good online source to buy?
benny42
06-13-2013, 10:03pm
10mm ammo is MUCH more available right now than .45, but that may not be a permanent situation.
...Whitepower...
06-13-2013, 10:19pm
I'm not a gun guy, but for CCW purposes how many bullets will that XD .45 hold?
Stopping power is good and all but i personally would opt for a .40 or 9mm with a higher capacity with some good ammo.
I love my Kimber Ultra Carry.
I went shopping with a very open mind, and I loved it the first time I held one.
I googled it and it looks cool, but holy sheet, it's $900...
A bit steep for me...
C5Nate
06-13-2013, 10:25pm
I'm not a gun guy, but for CCW purposes how many bullets will that XD .45 hold?
Stopping power is good and all but i personally would opt for a .40 or 9mm with a higher capacity with some good ammo.
http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/51YpeqjCINL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
I'm not a gun guy, but for CCW purposes how many bullets will that XD .45 hold?
Stopping power is good and all but i personally would opt for a .40 or 9mm with a higher capacity with some good ammo.
I thought about that, it is a single stack, 5 plus 1. But still, I'm not expecting to be in a gun battle, if I can't defend myself in public with more than a couple of .45 hydros, I've done got myself somewhere that I deserve to be killed...
C5Nate
06-13-2013, 10:29pm
I love my Kimber Ultra Carry.
I went shopping with a very open mind, and I loved it the first time I held one.
I googled it and it looks cool, but holy sheet, it's $900...
A bit steep for me...
$900. is cheap for a Kimber. They are a quality, reliable gun. I have several but my Kimber Crimson Ultra Carry II is my favorite to shoot and carry.
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/c5nate/100_2000.jpg
bsmith
06-13-2013, 10:31pm
$900. is cheap for a Kimber. They are a quality, reliable gun. I have several but my Kimber Crimson Ultra Carry II is my favorite to shoot and carry.
[IMGIMG]
looks just like mine. :dance:
I noticed the prices have gone up lately too.
I've been debating a full size Kimber lately.
Chris Fowler
06-13-2013, 10:32pm
I'll see if I can find one to shoot, thanks. I've got a few weeks before my CC permit arrives.
While on the subject, who orders ammo on line? What's a good online source to buy?
Anywhere you can find stock.
When stock is better Target Sports USA | Discount Ammunition Online | Ammo For Sale | Free Shipping Ammunition (http://www.targetsportsusa.com/) is my go to place. Free shipping on cases.
C5Nate
06-13-2013, 10:32pm
I've been debating a full size Kimber lately.
To carry?
Loved my colt commander. My sw40ve? Eh, not so much. Long trigger pull.
For now, I'm carrying my sw329. With 44 specials.
$900. is cheap for a Kimber. They are a quality, reliable gun. I have several but my Kimber Crimson Ultra Carry II is my favorite to shoot and carry.
http://sgcusa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/i/kimber-ultra-crimson-carry-ii-45-right.jpg
Looks like it. Porsche is quality and reliable too and I'd love to have one...and I will, some day, but...I gotta be realistic for now. That looks like a cool gun to want though. Hmmm.
C5Nate
06-13-2013, 10:36pm
While on the subject, who orders ammo on line? What's a good online source to buy?
Why on line?
I try to support my local gun shop whenever possible. They know me, my guns and have done some tuneups for free and on occasion will hand me a new product and say, "give this a try let us know what you think of it".
Its good to develop a relationship with your local gun shop/ gunsmith.
bsmith
06-13-2013, 10:43pm
To carry?
no.
In the summer, I carry a bodyguard 380 more often than the Ultra Carry.
Wife doesn't like mine, so I have been kicking around the idea of a full size as a nightstand gun.
I hear ya, but I just paid $30 for a $20 box of 50, I'd rather not do that in the future. They'll make plenty on range fees and the Springfield I'm probably about to buy, and the Kimber I'll probably eventually buy, thanks to you...I'll spend more at their range if I can get the ammo cheap.
C5Nate
06-13-2013, 10:55pm
I hear ya, but I just paid $30 for a $20 box of 50, I'd rather not do that in the future. They'll make plenty on range fees and the Springfield I'm probably about to buy, and the Kimber I'll probably eventually buy, thanks to you...I'll spend more at their range if I can get the ammo cheap.
And you are welcome :D
bsmith
06-13-2013, 11:02pm
If you are set on the xds, keep an eye on this site.
They are out of stock now, but check in the coming days.
$509.99 shipped
You will have whatever FFL transfer cost on your end, but I have ordered from them twice.
SPRINGFIELD HS XDS SINGLE STACK 45ACP BLACK @ Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore: (http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/116810/brand/SPRINGFIELD)
I am actually purchasing this same firearm later today. I was able to put a few rounds through one the other evening, and wow, I was amazed at it. I loved the way it felt, the recoil wasn't horrible, and its a damn sexy looking gun. However, I know there are better options out there, but not for what I want to pay...
Mirroredshades
06-14-2013, 9:39am
I am actually purchasing this same firearm later today. I was able to put a few rounds through one the other evening, and wow, I was amazed at it. I loved the way it felt, the recoil wasn't horrible, and its a damn sexy looking gun...
You will not be dissappointed.
:seasix:
vtelvr
06-14-2013, 10:45am
You will not be dissappointed.
:seasix:
Do you carry concealed? If so, what is your holster of choice? Also, IWB or OWB?
I am actually purchasing this same firearm later today. I was able to put a few rounds through one the other evening, and wow, I was amazed at it. I loved the way it felt, the recoil wasn't horrible, and its a damn sexy looking gun. However, I know there are better options out there, but not for what I want to pay...
How much?
I have a XDs.45 and positively love it. I carry it in a ISWBH and it just about disappears. Plenty accurate.
Considering its size the kick is not bad at all even with +p which it is rated for. It’s actually much easier to shoot than my Bodyguard.380, Walther PPK.380 and my Model 60 S&W .38 I have fired it with all sorts of ammo including lead hand loads and it just keeps on going BANG,BANG,BANG!
I carried a full size 1911 .45 for decades and its now just about retired and living a life of luxury in my safe.
I’m basically old fashioned in regards to guns (normally do not like plastic stuff), holsters (leather only) but that little XDs has sure wormed its way into my heart.
Mirroredshades
06-14-2013, 3:17pm
Do you carry concealed? If so, what is your holster of choice? Also, IWB or OWB?
I'm too fat to put anything else in the WB. LoL. I have a pocket holster for it. Works great as long as the pants aren't too loose.
I've put about 1000 rounds through mine with all kinds of ammo. No issues at all. I trust it with my life.
:seasix:
How much?
Walked out the door with it and a 25rd box of cheap hollow points for $583.
I'm too fat to put anything else in the WB. LoL. I have a pocket holster for it. Works great as long as the pants aren't too loose.
I've put about 1000 rounds through mine with all kinds of ammo. No issues at all. I trust it with my life.
:seasix:
I am kinda with you on the too much in the waist band already...
Mirroredshades
06-14-2013, 3:29pm
The brand pocket carry I use is called "sticky". It fits perfect in my pocket and clings to the pocket so you can pull the pistol out of it easily.
Walked out the door with it and a 25rd box of cheap hollow points for $583.
That's good. I'm finding it here in Atlanta from $549 to $629, the lower priced places are always out of stock.
vtelvr
06-14-2013, 11:50pm
That's good. I'm finding it here in Atlanta from $549 to $629, the lower priced places are always out of stock.
Not sure exactly where you are, but look up Forsyth county pawn. Had a bunch of them...$519.95
vtelvr
06-14-2013, 11:50pm
Here she is...on the way home!
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/VTELVR/null_zps3b66e656.jpg
Mirroredshades
06-15-2013, 7:53am
Here she is...on the way home!
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/VTELVR/null_zps3b66e656.jpg
Awww..... Isn't she purty.
:D
Awww..... Isn't she purty.
:D
Nice gun but no way would I use that POS holster or mag carrier that came in the box. Like I said before (post 31)nothing beats leather IMNSHO. (yes Im very old fashioned :Dand quite picky when it comes to guns and related stuff.) Been a shooter for at least 58 years now.
RedLS1GTO
06-15-2013, 9:28am
My carry depends on what I'm wearing.
Either this:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Guns/2013-02-08_14-47-30_848_zpsbcb08c0e.jpg
Or this:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Guns/IMG_6028.jpg
The LCP pretty obviously doesn't have the stopping power of the Kimber but I can carry it in ANY clothing. Unlike you old fuggers, I still move around from time to time. I wear basketball shorts and t-shirts quite often. No way I could carry a bigger pistol comfortably. Same for dress clothes... the LCP is much more comfortable and concealable.
Here she is...on the way home!
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/VTELVR/null_zps3b66e656.jpg
Bought mine this morning as well. Paid too much, but I was tired of calling around. Wish I'd seen the Forsyth Pawn post before I left though. Oh well, no pics, looks like the one above.
Mirroredshades
06-15-2013, 6:52pm
Bought mine this morning as well. Paid too much, but I was tired of calling around. Wish I'd seen the Forsyth Pawn post before I left though. Oh well, no pics, looks like the one above.
Kicks like a mule but very accurate. Congrats !!!
:cheers:
SnikPlosskin
06-15-2013, 9:58pm
$900. is cheap for a Kimber. They are a quality, reliable gun. I have several but my Kimber Crimson Ultra Carry II is my favorite to shoot and carry.
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/c5nate/100_2000.jpg
Love the props. That goes back years! Old timers know the rules. :dance:
Why on line?
I try to support my local gun shop whenever possible. They know me, my guns and have done some tuneups for free and on occasion will hand me a new product and say, "give this a try let us know what you think of it".
Its good to develop a relationship with your local gun shop/ gunsmith.
You should get a sub compact Taurus .40. :cert:
My carry depends on what I'm wearing.
Either this:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Guns/2013-02-08_14-47-30_848_zpsbcb08c0e.jpg
Or this:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Guns/IMG_6028.jpg
The LCP pretty obviously doesn't have the stopping power of the Kimber but I can carry it in ANY clothing. Unlike you old fuggers, I still move around from time to time. I wear basketball shorts and t-shirts quite often. No way I could carry a bigger pistol comfortably. Same for dress clothes... the LCP is much more comfortable and concealable.
My Primary carry is a Kimber Tactical Ultra II. My other is a Sig P938.
Torqaholic
06-16-2013, 7:39am
If I could ever lay my hands on one to see how it fits me I mght buy a pair of XDs's.
The only small 45 I have now is a Springfield ultra-compact (3.5" bbl). Works better than great, just too heavy for quick draw. Not that it can't be done, just can't practice without damaging tendons at my age.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Venomenon/Gunz/UC45.jpg
Love the props. That goes back years! Old timers know the rules. :dance:
You should get a sub compact Taurus .40. :cert:
Yeah, these young whipper snappers just don't know the game.
Thought about it but I know of people that hated their Taurus so much that he just gave his .40 away!
erickpl
06-17-2013, 11:27am
My carry is a Kimber Pro in a Milt Sparks VM2 IWB holster.
Love the idea of one of the Ultra Carry pistols, but I'm wanting specifically something smaller and lighter, so that has me leaning towards the Shield in 9mm or perhaps the XDs. For use while hiking, camping, and biking, smaller and lighter would be easier I'd think (at least for me).
Kimber goes along on the hikes in the backpack for use around the campground and tent, but the 9mm will be accessible easily while moving.
Mirroredshades
06-17-2013, 12:58pm
My carry is a Kimber Pro in a Milt Sparks VM2 IWB holster.
Love the idea of one of the Ultra Carry pistols, but I'm wanting specifically something smaller and lighter, so that has me leaning towards the Shield in 9mm or perhaps the XDs. For use while hiking, camping, and biking, smaller and lighter would be easier I'd think (at least for me).
Kimber goes along on the hikes in the backpack for use around the campground and tent, but the 9mm will be accessible easily while moving.
On days when I want something lighter, I go with a Ruger LCP. It is so easy to carry that you have no excuse for being unarmed.
:nox:
Stangkiller
06-17-2013, 1:19pm
I've complained about my experience with my XD 40 sub compact a few times on here. Well this weekend up at the ranch i decided to let my father in law fire it. It Failed to Load twice every magazine he fired. I picked it up ran a quick mag through it no problems, slow fired it and it the slide locked back on me once as well.
I will be calling Springfield again this week to see what they can do for me. It appears as though the bullets are coming in contact with the slide lock inside the gun. They've already replaced the magazine under warranty since it only happens with the extended mag, not sure how they'll handle this one, but they've been great every other time I've contacted them.
My carry is a Kimber Pro in a Milt Sparks VM2 IWB holster.
My son has a Milt Sparks for his Colt 1991a1 compact. The quality of the holster is unsurpassed. I carried it for a couple weeks and enjoyed the holster except his Colt has a knurled grip like my Kimber. Since I seldom wear T-shirts, the grip would grind into my side.
I wish Sparks would make a higher holster that would cover the grip on the skin side.
I spoke with Sparks company late last year and they would custom make it fo me ($200.00 with shipping) but they are 4 months out on orders now :crazy:
Mirroredshades
06-17-2013, 2:00pm
WTH does 40 have to do with this conversation?
:funny:
And just for the record, 40 sucks.
:leaving:
I've complained about my experience with my XD 40 sub compact a few times on here. Well this weekend up at the ranch i decided to let my father in law fire it. It Failed to Load twice every magazine he fired. I picked it up ran a quick mag through it no problems, slow fired it and it the slide locked back on me once as well.
I will be calling Springfield again this week to see what they can do for me. It appears as though the bullets are coming in contact with the slide lock inside the gun. They've already replaced the magazine under warranty since it only happens with the extended mag, not sure how they'll handle this one, but they've been great every other time I've contacted them.
.When you FIL fired it when it would not load did you have a stove-pipe type jam? You also said it fired fine for you when you shot a "Quick Mag"
Is it possible at those times you were limp wristing the piece. These guns are notorious for needing a very good solid grip to allow the action to work right.
Working as a range officer at my club I have seen what the differences in grip and wrist strength can do. Most times a limp wrist will produce stove pipes but not all times. Sometimes you just get your basic feed problems.
My XDs.45 seems to take everything I run threw it with no problem. I have even loaded mags as a test with different weight bullets, different power level and with both lead and jacketed slugs.
I have two short, and two longer mags but always carry it with the shorter mag and keep the longer for a reload.
Stangkiller
06-17-2013, 2:11pm
.When you FIL fired it when it would not load did you have a stove-pipe type jam? You also said it fired fine for you when you shot a "Quick Mag"
Is it possible at those times you were limp wristing the piece. These guns are notorious for needing a very good solid grip to allow the action to work right.
Working as a range officer at my club I have seen what the differences in grip and wrist strength can do. Most times a limp wrist will produce stove pipes but not all times. Sometimes you just get your basic feed problems.
My XDs.45 seems to take everything I run threw it with no problem. I have even loaded mags as a testwith different weight bullets , different power level and with both lead and jacketed slugs.
I have two short, and two longer mags but always carry it with the shorted mag and keep the longer for a reload.
No it's not stove piping, it's locking the slide back. Is there a possibility for user error? Only if our thumbs were riding the slide lock. He carrys an XD.45, so i don't believe it's the problem. It's never once had a problem shooting the lower capacity mag.
Last night I did find this write up which very exactly matches my problem.
Premature Slide Lock with the XD-40:Causes & Possible Cure (http://www.xd-hs2000.com/longsliderelease.html)
http://www.xd-hs2000.com/images/409WebRdythumb.jpg
http://www.xd-hs2000.com/images/My40AftrModthumb.jpg
After reading the article I took my gun apart and loaded a magazine with bullets into the gun and manually ejected the bullets from the mag. You could very clearly see the bullets coming in contact with the slide lock internally. What's weird is it only does it with the extended mag, and since this is a brand new mag it's done this on, it's not the mag itself.
No it's not stove piping, it's locking the slide back. Is there a possibility for user error? Only if our thumbs were riding the slide lock. He carrys an XD.45, so i don't believe it's the problem. It's never once had a problem shooting the lower capacity mag.
Last night I did find this write up which very exactly matches my problem.
Premature Slide Lock with the XD-40:Causes & Possible Cure (http://www.xd-hs2000.com/longsliderelease.html)
http://www.xd-hs2000.com/images/409WebRdythumb.jpg
http://www.xd-hs2000.com/images/My40AftrModthumb.jpg
After reading the article I took my gun apart and loaded a magazine with bullets into the gun and manually ejected the bullets from the mag. You could very clearly see the bullets coming in contact with the slide lock internally. What's weird is it only does it with the extended mag, and since this is a brand new mag it's done this on, it's not the mag itself.
Thanks for the link!
It could be the mag even though new. That why you always try them out a few times before trusting. I have seen guns shipped with defective mags, same goes for new purchased ones. <and its hard to tell by just a good looksee> SHIT HAPPENS. If my gun I would get another X mag and give it a serious try out.
Good luck, Dave
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