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Stangkiller
05-07-2013, 8:04am
Jesus this is a crazy story.
But the guy who helped the girl break out had the best quote of the day:
"A pretty little white girl running to the arms of a crazy black guy, I knew something was really wrong" :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Was just reading about that. Amazing they were found alive after 10 years.
simpleman68
05-07-2013, 8:20am
As a father of 2 girls, I've been fuming about if since I read it yesterday.
This kind of shit is so deeply disturbing....
It is hard to get my head around 3 people that plot to destroy another persons life. Especially a young person (boy or girl)
Exactly why I had that talk with my first daughter when she was just old enough to understand there were "bad people" in this world.
She knows how to kick, scream and scratch eyes if a stranger touches her. :issues:
Scott
Cybercowboy
05-07-2013, 8:28am
I just find it unbelievable that somebody didn't notice something strange about that house and its occupants for 10 freakin' years.
Stangkiller
05-07-2013, 9:06am
link?:waiting:
The quote was an audio interview they were running this morning, I can only hope they don't actually put it in a new article...
Three brothers have been arrested after three women who vanished about a decade ago in separate cases were found alive Monday in a residential area just south of downtown Cleveland, just a few miles from where they disappeared, authorities said.
One of the women said she had been abducted and told a 911 dispatcher in a frantic call, "I'm free now."
Ariel Castro, a 52-year-old, reportedly lived at the home, and his other brothers, Pedro and O'Neal, ages 54 and 50, respectively, lived elsewhere, authorities said at a press conference on Tuesday morning.
Castro was identified by one of the kidnapped women, Amanda Berry, in the 911 call, and was later arrested in connection to the case. Castro moved into the area in 1992. Neighbors considered him a loner who kept shades drawn over his windows and would only leave the home at night. In 1993, he was arrested for domestic violence, but a grand jury dropped the charges and he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct.
Cheering crowds gathered Monday night near the house where police say Berry, Georgina "Gina" DeJesus and Michelle Knight were found. Police say a 6-year-old was also found in the home, police said at a press confrence they believe the child belongs to Berry.
The three women were treated in the MetroHealth Emergency Department last night, and released on Tuesday morning. Authorities would not comment on their conditions further than they looked to be healthy and in need of a good meal. The women were apparently headed to relatives' homes, all of whom live within two miles of the suspects home.
Cleveland's police chief says he believes the three women were tied up in the house where they were found and had been there since they disappeared.
One neighbor, Charles Ramsey, told Fox 8 he heard screaming, found Berry at the door of the house and helped her call police.
Ramsey said the door would open only enough to fit a hand through. He said she was trying desperately to get outside and pleaded for help to reach police.
"I heard screaming," he said. "I'm eating my McDonald's. I come outside. I see this girl going nuts trying to get out of a house."
Neighbor Anna Tejeda was sitting on her porch with friends when they heard someone across the street kicking a door and yelling.
Tejeda, 50, said one of her friends went over and told Berry how to kick the screen out of the bottom of the door, which allowed her to get out.
Speaking Spanish, which was translated by one of her friends, Tejeda said Berry was nervous and crying. She was dressed in pajamas and old sandals.
At first Tejeda said she didn't want to believe who the young woman was. "You're not Amanda Berry," she insisted. "Amanda Berry is dead."
But when Berry told her she'd been kidnapped and held captive, Tejeda said she gave her the telephone to call police, who arrived within minutes and then took the other women from the house.
"Help me, I'm Amanda Berry. ... I've been kidnapped and I've been missing for 10 years. And I'm here, I'm free now," Berry can be heard saying on the frantic 911 call, made at 5:51 p.m. Monday.
She asks for police to respond "before he gets back" and then identifies her kidnapper as "Ariel Castro."
Julio Castro, who runs a grocery store half a block from where the women were found, also said the homeowner arrested is his nephew, Ariel Castro, according to the Associated Press.
The uncle said Ariel Castro had worked as a school bus driver. The Cleveland school district confirmed he was a former employee but wouldn't release details.
Ramsey said he'd barbecued with the home's owner and never suspected something was amiss.
"There was nothing exciting about him -- well, until today," he said.
Berry disappeared at age 16 on April 21, 2003, when she called her sister to say she was getting a ride home from her job at a Burger King.
DeJesus disappeared at age 14 on her way home from school about a year later. Police said Knight went missing in 2002 and is 32 now. They didn't provide current ages for the other two women.
Loved ones said they hadn't given up hope of seeing Berry and DeJesus again. Among them was Kayla Rogers, a childhood friend of DeJesus.
"I've been praying, never forgot about her, ever," Rogers told The Plain Dealer. "This is amazing. This is a celebration. I'm so happy. I just want to see her walk out of those doors so I can hug her."
Berry's cousin Tasheena Mitchell told the newspaper she couldn't wait to have Berry in her arms.
"I'm going to hold her, and I'm going to squeeze her and I probably won't let her go," she said.
At Metro Health Medical Center, Dr. Gerald Maloney declined to go into details about the women's conditions. "We're assessing their needs, and the appropriate specialists are evaluating them as well," he said at a news conference, which concluded with a round of applause from a large gathering of area residents.
In January, a prison inmate was sentenced to 4 1/2 years after admitting he provided a false burial tip in the disappearance of Berry, who had last been seen the day before her 17th birthday. A judge in Cleveland sentenced Robert Wolford on his guilty plea to obstruction of justice, making a false report and making a false alarm.
Last summer, Wolford tipped authorities to look for Berry's remains in a Cleveland lot. He was taken to the location, which was dug up with backhoes.
Berry's mother, Louwana Miller, who had been hospitalized for months with pancreatitis and other ailments, died in March 2006. She had spent the previous three years looking for her daughter, whose disappearance took a toll as her health steadily deteriorated, family and friends said.
Two men arrested for questioning in the disappearance of DeJesus in 2004 were released from the city jail in 2006 after officers did not find her body during a search of the men's house.
One of the men was transferred to the Cuyahoga County Jail on unrelated charges, while the other was allowed to go free, police said.
In September 2006, police acting on a tip tore up the concrete floor of the garage and used a cadaver dog to search unsuccessfully for DeJesus' body. Investigators confiscated 19 pieces of evidence during their search but declined to comment on the significance of the items then.
No Amber Alert was issued the day DeJesus failed to return home from school in April 2004 because no one witnessed her abduction. The lack of an Amber Alert angered her father, Felix DeJesus, who said in 2006 he believed the public will listen even if the alerts become routine.
"The Amber Alert should work for any missing child," Felix DeJesus said then. "It doesn't have to be an abduction. Whether it's an abduction or a runaway, a child needs to be found. We need to change this law."
Cleveland police said then that the alerts must be reserved for cases in which danger is imminent and the public can be of help in locating the suspect and child.
Anyone with information on the case is being asked to call the Cleveland FBI at 216-522-1400.
Click for more from Fox 8.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Read more: Cops arrest 3 brothers after 3 Ohio women missing for a decade found alive | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/07/2-ohio-teen-girls-missing-for-decade-found-alive-as-cops-offer-few-details/#ixzz2ScEMNQww)
C5SilverBullet
05-07-2013, 9:18am
That is just crazy.
just listened to the audio of the call. I sit just me, or is it kinda fecked up that the dispatcher let her get off the phone before police arrived?
Cybercowboy
05-07-2013, 9:31am
just listened to the audio of the call. I sit just me, or is it kinda fecked up that the dispatcher let her get off the phone before police arrived?
It was like the dispatcher had lots of better things to do, like watch a game show.
Chuck A
05-07-2013, 9:39am
glad they were found alive
very cool, indeed
Chuck A
05-07-2013, 9:40am
glad they were found alive
very cool, indeed
C5SilverBullet
05-07-2013, 9:40am
And here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcLSI3oyqhs
Grey Ghost
05-07-2013, 10:25am
just listened to the audio of the call. I sit just me, or is it kinda fecked up that the dispatcher let her get off the phone before police arrived?
I thought it was strange when he said "Once we have a car open"...no urgency anywhere in that call. She told him all the details.
There is Evil in this world and three very Evil people have been found. Those three girls will need much love and help to readjust after this.
CBonsall
05-07-2013, 10:55am
the guy that rescued the girls is funny, listening to him explain the story was funny. not for the girls, just the way the story was told.
dispatcher needs to find another job. :slap:
Joecooool
05-07-2013, 10:56am
Jesus this is a crazy story.
But the guy who helped the girl break out had the best quote of the day:
"A pretty little white girl running to the arms of a crazy black guy, I knew something was really wrong" :rofl::rofl::rofl:
That made me feel awful when I heard him say that.
I find it really, really hard to believe that in 10 years there wasn't a single instance that one of them could have escaped or signaled someone of their distress. Stockholm syndrome, perhaps?
Joecooool
05-07-2013, 11:14am
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onedef92
05-07-2013, 11:21am
Ramsey said he'd barbecued with the home's owner and never suspected something was amiss.
"There was nothing exciting about him -- well, until today," he said.
Funny how you can tell your life's story (and then some) to literal and virtual strangers online, but not know anything about your neighbors who live right next door to you.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb466/kwsmith1/house5_zps4e4170ce.jpg
Sea Six
05-07-2013, 11:21am
That made me feel awful when I heard him say that.
It is the epitome of arrogance and white guilt when a Caucasian expresses "feeling awful" on behalf of a black man for a statement he made in good humor.
Joecooool
05-07-2013, 11:47am
It is the epitome of arrogance and white guilt when a Caucasian expresses "feeling awful" on behalf of a black man for a statement he made in good humor.
First off, I never said I felt awful on behalf of him, I said that his comment made ME feel awful.
However, I think your comment says much more about you that you believe what I said had anything to do with "white guilt" and that what he said was in "good humor".
I felt awful because his statement shows how far our society still has to go.
That story was unbelievable. While grateful the girls were found alive, you can only hope that they aren't so traumatized from the experience, and that they are able to pick up what they can of their lives and try to go on living a 'normal' life from here on out.
So many missing children and teens out there.....makes you wonder how many more are living like this. :(
Sea Six
05-07-2013, 12:16pm
First off, I never said I felt awful on behalf of him, I said that his comment made ME feel awful.
However, I think your comment says much more about you that you believe what I said had anything to do with "white guilt" and that what he said was in "good humor".
I felt awful because his statement shows how far our society still has to go.
I can't imagine the guy was putting himself down... so that just leaves the possibility that he made the statement in humor.
How about Mark with his screen name of ... Whitepower ... ? He is a black man that is referencing a hilarious video made by another black man, and I think it's along the same lines of humor as the guy in this news story referring to himself as a crazy black guy.
Do you feel awful that such humor exists every time you see Mark's screen name appear on your screen? I'm sure it's no secret to you that Mark is a black liberal... and I'm wondering if that affects your "awful feeling" reaction.
Sea Six
05-07-2013, 12:16pm
That story was unbelievable. While grateful the girls were found alive, you can only hope that they aren't so traumatized from the experience, and that they are able to pick up what they can of their lives and try to go on living a 'normal' life from here on out.
So many missing children and teens out there.....makes you wonder how many more are living like this. :(
:iagree:
1,000 percent.
Grey Ghost
05-07-2013, 3:41pm
Poor dude looks a lot like 'looter dude'. His pics are gonna' get chopped to death.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2J5EpZYwyx4d-2RoxumAuIzyEA1YSj8bMBgHYarBL12a3l0RQ
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn6p9eF5gLIw8LxlkJv67sEglJ8WDx2qWFfIxvSdfJEHHnBF6Y
Grey Ghost
05-07-2013, 3:45pm
I can't imagine the guy was putting himself down... so that just leaves the possibility that he made the statement in humor.
How about Mark with his screen name of ... Whitepower ... ? He is a black man that is referencing a hilarious video made by another black man, and I think it's along the same lines of humor as the guy in this news story referring to himself as a crazy black guy.
Do you feel awful that such humor exists every time you see Mark's screen name appear on your screen? I'm sure it's no secret to you that Mark is a black liberal... and I'm wondering if that affects your "awful feeling" reaction.
You can see him and others around him laughing about his statement. He was hamming it up a bit for the cameras. Funny guy, but hero, too.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRb8HtgcmQjQ2f5ZOpqXr2PHyjzl3EwC4wuQfH-AYnR2SgzDYCo
Let's not have another thread turn into racism. He seems to be the type of guy with a great sense of humor, and I'm sure that his statement was made to reflect that.
oyealiz
05-07-2013, 4:36pm
Let's not have another thread turn into racism. He seems to be the type of guy with a great sense of humor, and I'm sure that his statement was made to reflect that.
My exact thoughts. Thanks, Yamma.
Steve Austin
05-07-2013, 4:43pm
You can see him and others around him laughing about his statement. He was hamming it up a bit for the cameras. Funny guy, but hero, too.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRb8HtgcmQjQ2f5ZOpqXr2PHyjzl3EwC4wuQfH-AYnR2SgzDYCo
Looter dude to the rescue ???
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt238/XXXJack/looter_C4.jpg
Sea Six
05-07-2013, 5:51pm
Looter dude to the rescue ???
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt238/XXXJack/looter_C4.jpg
OMFG!!!
:funnier:
Torqaholic
05-07-2013, 6:08pm
I just find it unbelievable that somebody didn't notice something strange about that house and its occupants for 10 freakin' years.
They did. Cops were sent there three different times. Once for a naked lady crawling in the back yard. Each time the cops came they knocked, got no answer, and left.
They did. Cops were sent there three different times. Once for a naked lady crawling in the back yard. Each time the cops came they knocked, got no answer, and left.
Hmmm..Not the press conference i saw. They said they had no calls to our about that address other than an incident where the dude inadvertently left a kid on the bus he drove, and nothing came of it.
Unless there has been a more recent press conference.:dunno:
jaxgator
05-08-2013, 11:09am
Poor dude looks a lot like 'looter dude'. His pics are gonna' get chopped to death.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn6p9eF5gLIw8LxlkJv67sEglJ8WDx2qWFfIxvSdfJEHHnBF6Y
Looter dude to the rescue ???
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt238/XXXJack/looter_C4.jpg
Wow! Spitting image. And yeah, he's going to be chopped all over the internet now.
Madmikeee
05-08-2013, 11:12am
As a father of 2 girls, I've been fuming about if since I read it yesterday.
This kind of shit is so deeply disturbing....
It is hard to get my head around 3 people that plot to destroy another persons life. Especially a young person (boy or girl)
Exactly why I had that talk with my first daughter when she was just old enough to understand there were "bad people" in this world.
She knows how to kick, scream and scratch eyes if a stranger touches her. :issues:
Scott
Told my son the same thing, Scream and go for the throat, eyes, balls. Too many sickos out there now to NOT teach your kids those basics.
Cybercowboy
05-08-2013, 12:25pm
That made me feel awful when I heard him say that.
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
Doug28450
05-08-2013, 12:32pm
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
They're busy with coverage of the Kermit Gosnell trial.
Oh....
Wait....
cant verify the source, but hearing looter dude was offered a reward for his part of the rescue and he pulled his paycheck out of his pocket and says " i gotta paycheck, give the money to the girls that were kidnapped"
pretty cool if true:cheers:
Sea Six
05-08-2013, 4:52pm
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
Outstanding. :yesnod:
Burro (He/Haw)
05-08-2013, 5:00pm
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
You COULD just turn off the television and go read about the Benghazi hearings. Couldn't you?
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The really crappy thing about all this is that the Berry woman has a 6 year old daughter. It's a rape baby, a constant reminder of what happened. Hopefully the guys that did this get life sentences and end up in gen pop so they can get ass raped every day.....every single day.....inbetween savage beatings.
GS Ragtop
05-08-2013, 5:20pm
The really crappy thing about all this is that the Berry woman has a 6 year old daughter. It's a rape baby, a constant reminder of what happened. Hopefully the guys that did this get life sentences and end up in gen pop so they can get ass raped every day.....every single day.....inbetween savage beatings.
Local news here in NE Ohio said yesterday that the girls got pregnant several times. When their captors found out about the pregnancies, they beat the women until they miscarried.
Truly savages. Unbelievable that one human being could somehow justify doing this to another. :cry:
Grey Ghost
05-08-2013, 5:36pm
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
I had to watch it on C-SPAN. Clear case of white-washing, career protection for Hillary and cohorts. One of the guys wasn't even allowed to have a discussion with a congressman without a lawyer present from the State Dept.
Sea Six
05-08-2013, 5:50pm
You COULD just turn off the television and go read about the Benghazi hearings. Couldn't you?
There is a very significant point he was making. You appear to have missed it completely.
:sadangel:
Burro (He/Haw)
05-08-2013, 6:07pm
There is a very significant point he was making. You appear to have missed it completely.
:sadangel:
I understood his post thoroughly, and I understood his intent.
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
From what I've been able to glean from this post is, the poster spent enough time at CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al to form an opinion on what they should and should not be covering, based on what HE feels in newsworthy.
My comment stands. Turn it off if you find it objectionable or it makes you feel "Awful." Carping about the mainstream media is an exercise in futility isn't it? What did the poster expect? Fair and balanced coverage? :rofl: You know better than that. So does he. The fact that Cyber is surprised, is surprising.
Sea Six
05-08-2013, 6:16pm
I understood his post thoroughly, and I understood his intent.
From what I've been able to glean from this post is, the poster spent enough time at CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al to form an opinion on what they should and should not be covering, based on what HE feels in newsworthy.
My comment stands. Turn it off if you find it objectionable or it makes you feel "Awful." Carping about the mainstream media is an exercise in futility isn't it? What did the poster expect? Fair and balanced coverage? :rofl: You know better than that. So does he. The fact that Cyber is surprised, is surprising.
If you truly are thinking there is a milliliter of surprise on the part of Cyber, then you indeed missed the point he was making.
Burro (He/Haw)
05-08-2013, 6:23pm
If you truly are thinking there is a milliliter of surprise on the part of Cyber, then you indeed missed the point he was making.
It's just more poorly disguised Obama hate Clark. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you truly are thinking there is a milliliter of surprise on the part of Cyber, then you indeed missed the point he was making.
*ounce
Joecooool
05-08-2013, 6:35pm
You know what makes me feel awful? CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC et al are playing endless loops of the coverage of this story while not showing one second of the Benghazi whistle blower hearings. That's what makes me feel awful, not some humorous comment by some guy.
Probably because its the stupidest waste of money I can recall in a very long time. There was never any cover up, everyone knew right away what happened. Its pathetic how republicans turn this tragedy into a god damn three ring circus because of how long it took the administration to refer to the attack as terrorist related.
There is no end game here. No matter what happened Obama will still be president. Stop wasting time on this stupid shit and govern the damn country.
Dumbest shit ever.
Blademaker
05-08-2013, 6:35pm
*ounce
*an ounce
Sea Six
05-08-2013, 6:39pm
Probably because its the stupidest waste of money I can recall in a very long time. There was never any cover up, everyone knew right away what happened. Its pathetic how republicans turn this tragedy into a god damn three ring circus because of how long it took the administration to refer to the attack as terrorist related.
There is no end game here. No matter what happened Obama will still be president. Stop wasting time on this stupid shit and govern the damn country.
Dumbest shit ever.
This sounds like a case of someone who has not gotten the whole story.
Just curious, Phil... what sources have you watched or read to gain your present understanding of what happened in Benghazi?
Please list them all inclusively.
Burro (He/Haw)
05-08-2013, 6:44pm
Just curious, Phil... what sources have you watched or read to gain your present understanding of what happened in Benghazi?
Just curious, Clark... what sources have you watched or read to gain your present understanding of what happened in Benghazi?
I'm sure your sources fit your agenda just as well as Phil's fit his. The non-debate if I've ever seen one.
GS Ragtop
05-08-2013, 6:45pm
I sure wish we had a PR&C section...
mrvette
05-08-2013, 6:46pm
Probably because its the stupidest waste of money I can recall in a very long time. There was never any cover up, everyone knew right away what happened. Its pathetic how republicans turn this tragedy into a god damn three ring circus because of how long it took the administration to refer to the attack as terrorist related.
There is no end game here. No matter what happened Obama will still be president. Stop wasting time on this stupid shit and govern the damn country.
Dumbest shit ever.
It IS SO obvious what happened there, it not even funny....
:issues:
This sounds like a case of someone who has not gotten the whole story.
Just curious, Phil... what sources have you watched or read to gain your present understanding of what happened in Benghazi?
Please list them all inclusively.
Just curious, Clark... what sources have you watched or read to gain your present understanding of what happened in Benghazi?
I'm sure your sources fit your agenda just as well as Phil's fit his. The non-debate if I've ever seen one.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L7-5D2uVxTo/SvW_jHs7EuI/AAAAAAAAAHA/kT5a4b5kPxU/s400/ThreadDirection.jpg
I sure wish we had a PR&C section...
You know, I was kind of addicted to the PR&C in the other place. Since getting tossed out, however, I seem to have lost interest in constant political bickering. Its kind of refreshing. I'm enjoying the light hearted banter of VBOT much better.
Burro (He/Haw)
05-08-2013, 6:52pm
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L7-5D2uVxTo/SvW_jHs7EuI/AAAAAAAAAHA/kT5a4b5kPxU/s400/ThreadDirection.jpg
You're right. Sorry, I got sucked in.
The black guy's comment did crack me up. :rofl:
Sea Six
05-08-2013, 7:13pm
You're right. Sorry, I got sucked in.
The black guy's comment did crack me up. :rofl:
It was funny as hell. I'm sure he's going to get some well-deserved mileage out of this one. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy too, it seems.
It was funny as hell. I'm sure he's going to get some well-deserved mileage out of this one. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy too, it seems.
*Hell
Sea Six
05-08-2013, 7:18pm
*Hell
I don't believe in the dignity of hell, so I don't capitalize it.
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