What a city with no conservatives looks like

[vetteman9368]

http://m1.i.pbase.com/o6/04/1904/1/131359031.lbDaqkCp.MonumentalRuinsOfDetroit.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/04/detroit-ruins2.jpg

http://atdetroit.net/resume/accolade/nytimeslfb.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zLtyhbAcV8Y/UD_HruYsRZI/AAAAAAAAG2s/-z65M3ABmk4/s1600/detroit-in-ruins-dumbcrats-liberals-fail-political-poster-1297104849.jpg

[mrvette]

Should see the contrasting photos of Nagasaki and Detroit from 1946 to today.....who won the war???


Do a search.....:sadangel:

[RedLS1GTO]

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Obama-Forward-620x332.jpg

[Aerovette]

http://m1.i.pbase.com/o6/04/1904/1/131359031.lbDaqkCp.MonumentalRuinsOfDetroit.jpg


What a shame. This is an awesome looking old building.

[vetteman9368]

What a shame. This is an awesome looking old building.

It certainly is

[Datawiz]

Unfortunately, I think we are past the tipping point where the entitled have more say than the people willing to work. :(

[Blademaker]

Unfortunately, I think we are past the tipping point where the entitled have more say than the people willing to work. :(

This ^ :seasix:

[lspencer534]

2.7 people leave Detroit every hour, or 65 people each day. That mounts up in a hurry. I don't blame them.

[VITE1]

Unfortunately, I think we are past the tipping point where the entitled have more say than the people willing to work. :(

I drove across FL from Ft Myers to PSL yesterday and I listened to NPR. Over an HOUR of how great SNAP was. All these losers coming on and saying they were so happy they could get food stamps.

In every Case except one the people were making bad decisions and WE the People of the USA had to pay for their F**K ups.

[mrvette]

I drove across FL from Ft Myers to PSL yesterday and I listened to NPR. Over an HOUR of how great SNAP was. All these losers coming on and saying they were so happy they could get food stamps.

In every Case except one the people were making bad decisions and WE the People of the USA had to pay for their F**K ups.

NPR is flat out run by communists.....this was so even back ~50 years ago....funded by OUR tax money.....


:issues:

[Dave]

What a shame. This is an awesome looking old building.

That's just the outside. The inside is/was absolutely remarkable.

[RedLS1GTO]

2.7 people leave Detroit every hour, or 65 people each day. That mounts up in a hurry. I don't blame them.

The rest can't afford to get past the city limits...

[vtelvr]

What a shame. This is an awesome looking old building.

That's just the outside. The inside is/was absolutely remarkable.

Old high class hotel is what it looks like to me?....

[simpleman68]

I have some fond memories of growing up in Detroit. Really a crying shame that most of the city is now a huge bag of suck.
Scott

[C5SilverBullet]

Old high class hotel is what it looks like to me?....

Michigan Central Station

[C5SilverBullet]

From inside the station.

Detroit: Michigan Central Station - Photography: Zach Fein (http://zfein.com/photography/detroit/mcs/index.html)

[mrvette]

From inside the station.

Detroit: Michigan Central Station - Photography: Zach Fein (http://zfein.com/photography/detroit/mcs/index.html)

A direct result of the JFK/LBJ legacy....


:issues::sadangel:

[GS Ragtop]

A direct result of the JFK/LBJ legacy....

Here's one of the better looks at what went wrong. The guy's a bit of a smartass, but he's got the basics of the problems down. If you get sick of him, forward to about 11:15 to get a summary.

Detroit's death spiral breaks my heart. So many good people lost everything, including hope for the future. I just hope the lefties see Detroit as a lesson about excess...

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

[Dave]

From inside the station.

Detroit: Michigan Central Station - Photography: Zach Fein (http://zfein.com/photography/detroit/mcs/index.html)

The irony of this picture is priceless
http://zfein.com/photography/detroit/mcs/images/IMG_4897_A.jpg
Ambassador Bridge as seen from the roof of Michigan Central Station.


The old central station is owned by the same billionaire that owns the (yes, privately held) international crossing between Detroit & Windsor, Canadia

[Torqaholic]

The rest can't afford to get past the city limits...

That is a real problem. Everything that's legal is regulated to the point that it costs money. Without money the only things left are illegal activities. Detroit is what ordinary people call "being in the wrong place at the wrong time". To liberals it's a paradise, the perfect excuse to enact more regulations and steal ever larger sums of money.

[VITE1]

Here's one of the better looks at what went wrong. The guy's a bit of a smartass, but he's got the basics of the problems down. If you get sick of him, forward to about 11:15 to get a summary.

Detroit's death spiral breaks my heart. So many good people lost everything, including hope for the future. I just hope the lefties see Detroit as a lesson about excess...

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw)

The sad part is we have 3000 years of human history that proves their philosophy of bigger more activist governments are always a failure. Yet they keep trying.

Governments job has to be limited because government itself is corrupt in any form. Making it bigger and more intrusive in it's citizens activities always take more from the governed and corrupts the government even more.

[Kerrmudgeon]

The conservative money grubbers caused that predicament, by sending all the jobs off shore and putting all the people out of work! And the unions or liberals priced the labor force out of the global picture. So the question is....who's greed came first? :confused5:

[jaxgator]

The sad part is we have 3000 years of human history that proves their philosophy of bigger more activist governments are always a failure. Yet they keep trying.

The definition of insanity.

[Joecooool]

The conservative money grubbers caused that predicament, by sending all the jobs off shore and putting all the people out of work! And the unions or liberals priced the labor force out of the global picture. So the question is....who's greed came first? :confused5:

Doesn't matter, blame Obama.

http://i.imgur.com/PKOqkVN.gif

[Cybercowboy]

Doesn't matter, blame Obama.

http://i.imgur.com/PKOqkVN.gif

You'll never blame him for a damn thing, right?

Of any importance anyway. I see my country being destroyed. It's heartbreaking.

[Cybercowboy]

The conservative money grubbers caused that predicament, by sending all the jobs off shore and putting all the people out of work! And the unions or liberals priced the labor force out of the global picture. So the question is....who's greed came first? :confused5:

In case you haven't been paying attention for about forever, "conservatives" don't hold some sort of a headlock on the "money grubber" namesake. As a matter of fact, there are a bunch of really big corporations who contribute pretty much exclusively to leftist progressive causes. GE comes to mind. Apple. The list is endless.

Soooo, stuff that, kay?

[Kerrmudgeon]

In case you haven't been paying attention for about forever, "conservatives" don't hold some sort of a headlock on the "money grubber" namesake. As a matter of fact, there are a bunch of really big corporations who contribute pretty much exclusively to leftist progressive causes. GE comes to mind. Apple. The list is endless.

Soooo, stuff that, kay?

If you READ my post to the end, I wasn't blaming one more than the other. They are all to blame for the fiasco that western society is turning into, and ours is not far behind yours by the way. :slap:

It's still the best of the worst mind you, with the possible exception of Australia. I like their politics.:yesnod:

[VatorMan]

I think the common theme is that relying on the government to save or create is what causes such decay. Government by design is inefficient and costly. For the government to build anything is at least twice the cost of the private sector.

[Cybercowboy]

If you READ my post to the end, I wasn't blaming one more than the other. They are all to blame for the fiasco that western society is turning into, and ours is not far behind yours by the way. :slap:

It's still the best of the worst mind you, with the possible exception of Australia. I like their politics.:yesnod:

Detroit is a monument to the progressive mindset. It is their trophy.

[Joecooool]

You'll never blame him for a damn thing, right?

Of any importance anyway. I see my country being destroyed. It's heartbreaking.Detroit was a shithole waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Obama.

[Sea Six]

Detroit was a shithole waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Obama.

You're absolutely right about that.

It's been under complete, 100% Democratic control since ... what, the last 50 years?

:seasix:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

It's been under complete, 100% Democratic control
So has Minneapolis. We're doing pretty well. :cert: As always, exceptions exist.

[Craig]

Detroit was a shithole waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Obama.

We're not blaming Obama for Detroit, we're blaming liberals for Detroit. Bad ideas have been around a lot longer than Obama.

[kingpin]

So has Minneapolis. We're doing pretty well. :cert: As always, exceptions exist.

You didn't go to Harvard!
Shuddup!

:dance:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

You didn't go to Harvard!
Shuddup!

:dance:

True. Of course I don't piss and moan about Obama/Liberals 24/7 like a petulant child either.
:hurray:

[kingpin]

True. Of course I don't piss and moan about Obama/Liberals 24/7 like a petulant child either.
:hurray:

****! I gotta go look up that word.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

****! I gotta go look up that word.

What a zereaux. :dance:

[burtonbl103]

Unfortunately, I think we are past the tipping point where the entitled have more say than the people willing to work. :(

:( sad but true

[Cybercowboy]

True. Of course I don't piss and moan about Obama/Liberals 24/7 like a petulant child either.
:hurray:

It's not required in order to recognize the utter failure.

[Dave]

The conservative money grubbers caused that predicament, by sending all the jobs off shore and putting all the people out of work! And the unions or liberals priced the labor force out of the global picture. So the question is....who's greed came first? :confused5:

In the City of Detroit? Hardly the case.

[RED-85-Z51]

I drove across FL from Ft Myers to PSL yesterday and I listened to NPR. Over an HOUR of how great SNAP was. All these losers coming on and saying they were so happy they could get food stamps.

In every Case except one the people were making bad decisions and WE the People of the USA had to pay for their F**K ups.

What is Snap?

[DukeAllen]

What is Snap?

Food stamps.
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) | Food and Nutrition Service (http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/)

[yell01]

The problem is animals raised by animals! Actually animals raised without a male animal to keep them in line. Detroit is nothing but a zoo where the animals have overtaken it and ruined it. From about 1.8 million people to what? Maybe 800,000 if even?

No pride, no respect. It's disgusting. What kills me is libs who keep voting the same as their city/state goes down the shitter. Much like here in IL. Same libs ruining the state year after year but yet promising to fix all the chit they've fecked up over the last several years. :banghead:

[DukeAllen]

The problem is animals raised by animals! Actually animals raised without a male animal to keep them in line. Detroit is nothing but a zoo where the animals have overtaken it and ruined it. From about 1.8 million people to what? Maybe 800,000 if even?

No pride, no respect. It's disgusting. What kills me is libs who keep voting the same as their city/state goes down the shitter. Much like here in IL. Same libs ruining the state year after year but yet promising to fix all the chit they've fecked up over the last several years. :banghead:

They always have someone else to blame. And the animals only care about their free phones.

[MrPeabody]

The problem is animals raised by animals! Actually animals raised without a male animal to keep them in line. Detroit is nothing but a zoo where the animals have overtaken it and ruined it. From about 1.8 million people to what? Maybe 800,000 if even?

No pride, no respect. It's disgusting. What kills me is libs who keep voting the same as their city/state goes down the shitter. Much like here in IL. Same libs ruining the state year after year but yet promising to fix all the chit they've fecked up over the last several years. :banghead:

Aren't Republicans completely in control of the government in Michigan now?

[Burro (He/Haw)]

It's not required in order to recognize the utter failure.

Yet, you still can't help yourself even though NOBODY here debates you. :confused5:

[island14]

What a shame. This is an awesome looking old building.

:iagree:

After looking at the other pics posted, this was truly a beautiful building in its time. :yesnod:

Detroit: Michigan Central Station - Photography: Zach Fein (http://zfein.com/photography/detroit/mcs/index.html)

I would like to think that someday it will be restored to what it once was.

I bet it's safe to bet that there is no longer any copper plumbing, or wiring left in it.

http://64.19.142.11/zfein.com/photography/detroit/mcs/images/IMG_4822_B.jpg

[Kerrmudgeon]

Alas, even Rome fell to ruins eventually. It's a shame in the same way, a lot of beautiful architecture in both examples. :yesnod;

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/30/3065/MZZDF00Z/posters/bill-bachmann-ruins-of-the-coliseum-rome-italy.jpg

[Bill]

True. Of course I don't piss and moan about Obama/Liberals 24/7 like a petulant child either.
:hurray:

****! I gotta go look up that word.

You didn't go to Harvard!
Shuddup!

:dance:

Et tu, Kingpin.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I guess kicking Detroit and pointing your finger at the city saying; "Ha-Ha Liberal scum, look what you did!" must make some people feel better. Maybe it makes them feel more intelligent? Informed? Superior? Who knows.

I would no more point my finger at a smoker dying of lung cancer than I would this situation. The entire thing is just sad.

[vetteman9368]

Aren't Republicans completely in control of the government in Michigan now?

State maybe, Detroit is still run by the idiots

[vetteman9368]

I guess kicking Detroit and pointing your finger at the city saying; "Ha-Ha Liberal scum, look what you did!" must make some people feel better. Maybe it makes them feel more intelligent? Informed? Superior? Who knows.

I would no more point my finger at a smoker dying of lung cancer than I would this situation. The entire thing is just sad.

It is sad, because just like that smoker, it was preventable.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

It is sad, because just like that smoker, it was preventable.

Your original post is the same old recycled crap you always post. You find no opposition here so it's easy for you. :cert:

[vetteman9368]

Your original post is the same old recycled crap you always post. You find no opposition here so it's easy for you. :cert:

There is no opposition to facts and common sense

[Burro (He/Haw)]

There is no opposition facts and common sense

See? :dance: Pretty soon you'll have all kinds of http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj280/Dilemma_1962/Thanks_zps58c90599.jpg here and you'll feel good. :rofl:

[vetteman9368]

See? :dance: Pretty soon you'll have all kinds of http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj280/Dilemma_1962/Thanks_zps58c90599.jpg here and you'll feel good. :rofl:

I'm just trying to bring light to those in the darkness, but some people just pull the shade

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I'm just trying to bring light to those in the darkness, but some people just pull the shade

I'm FULLY aware of what happened in Detroit. And I agree with you. Who are you hoping to educate here? Everyone agrees with you. :confused5:

[Sea Six]

Your original post is the same old recycled crap you always post. You find no opposition here so it's easy for you. :cert:

I guess some of us take the destruction of our country a little more personally than others.

I happen to find the real life results of Liberal politics revolting, and applaud anything that exposes it for what it does.

I'm not rejoicing over the suffering it causes, but I don't mind bringing it up over again. Doing so brings to light the cruel result brought on by more and more people becoming dependent on a government that cannot begin to afford to take care of them without borrowing money or printing more of it out of thin air... on a scale that is entirely unsustainable.

Thomas, how about focusing on what the policies are doing to our fiscal insolvency and to the people of cities like Detroit... rather than harping on someone for what you perceive as meanness or gloating at their suffering? Ever consider that point of view?

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Ever consider that point of view?
Read my post Sea. #57 :cert:

[Sea Six]

Read my post Sea. #57 :cert:

You posted that as I was typing my response.

:cert:



:datawiz:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

The reason for the challenge to Chad is this; He consistently posts crap he's snagged off the internet that casts Liberals and Obama in a poor light. We ALL get it. This POTUS is terrible. Liberals have gone much to far and their policies suck. Hell, even I agree with this, and I've got a Liberal side to me.

So from where I sit it all looks like one back slapping party for Chad. I suppose validation feels good.

But honestly? NOBODY here with the exception of maybe Cooool disagrees with him. So what's the point? Is there ANY chance of changing Coool's mind? Doubtful.

To put a nice fine point on it? Debate is GREAT. I jump in often enough. But posting the same old recycled shit? Not so much. ESPECIALLY when NOBODY disagrees.

[Y2Kvert4me]

You do realize this thread is a parody of a recent Joecooool thread, no?

[Burro (He/Haw)]

You do realize this thread is a parody of a recent Joecooool thread, no?

No, no I do not. Gotta link?

[Y2Kvert4me]

No, no I do not. Gotta link?http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/off-topic/50589-what-city-no-air-pollution-laws-looks-like.html?highlight=pollution

[Burro (He/Haw)]

http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/off-topic/50589-what-city-no-air-pollution-laws-looks-like.html?highlight=pollution

So, I stand corrected. Maybe.
My talking points still stand however, and I'll be glad to bring the discussion into another of Chad's "Liberals/Obama sucks" threads. I'm sure there will be one. :lol:

[Cybercowboy]

You do realize this thread is a parody of a recent Joecooool thread, no?

I realized it just by the thread title, thought everybody did.

[vetteman9368]

So, I stand corrected. Maybe.
My talking points still stand however, and I'll be glad to bring the discussion into another of Chad's "Liberals/Obama sucks" threads. I'm sure there will be one. :lol:

Pick a subject, we can have a debate

[Sea Six]

I realized it just by the thread title, thought everybody did.

Ya RLY.

[MrPeabody]

State maybe, Detroit is still run by the idiots

Hasn't the Governor fired the entire city gov and appointed a state administrator to run things? Now, I don't think anyone is expecting miracles in a short time, but the point is, the people have spoken for change, rather than continuing to vote "the same libs running the state" like Yell01 said, right?

[Sea Six]

Hasn't the Governor fired the entire city gov and appointed a state administrator to run things? Now, I don't think anyone is expecting miracles in a short time, but the point is, the people have spoken for change, rather than continuing to vote for the same thing, right?

If that's true, I just started believing in God again.

Hallelujah!

:yesnod:

[kingpin]

I think Detroit was reliant solely on the Auto Manufacturers.
When they went downhill so did Detroit.

Blame it on the Unions.

[Sea Six]

Blame it on the Unions.

That'll work too. :seasix:

[The_Dude]

I think Detroit was reliant solely on the Auto Manufacturers.
When they went downhill so did Detroit.

Blame it on the Unions.

and the hubris of American auto manufacturers.

[Dave]

I think Detroit was reliant solely on the Auto Manufacturers.
When they went downhill so did Detroit.

Blame it on the Unions.

Not at all the case with Detroit, the city. Detroit, the expanded metropolitan area and suburbs, yes. The city, no. Racial tensions/riots in the 60s and the subsequent white flight led to the demise of the city (and the boom of the suburbs) despite the auto industry booming at the time.

[oyealiz]

I realized it just by the thread title, thought everybody did.

Not those of us who aren't around all the time.

:)

[Torqaholic]

It's not required in order to recognize the utter failure.

I agree, it is however required to depersonalize the enemy prior to elimination. Assuming you don't want your conscience bothering you.

[Cybercowboy]

Not those of us who aren't around all the time.

:)

Except he was around at the time.

[GS Ragtop]

Hasn't the Governor fired the entire city gov and appointed a state administrator to run things? Now, I don't think anyone is expecting miracles in a short time, but the point is, the people have spoken for change, rather than continuing to vote "the same libs running the state" like Yell01 said, right?

Michigan has a law on the books since 1990 (Google "Michigan PA 72") that permits the governor to appoint a review panel to assess a financially troubled city. That city's management must comply with the information requirements and demands created by the review panel.

If the panel determines there is an emergency with no viable recovery plan in place, it can recommend the governor appoint an Emergency Financial Manager. The decision is the governor's alone and the troubled city administrators have no ability to countermand the governor's decision.

Detroit and 5 other Michigan cities are under emergency supervision by appointed Emergency Financial Managers. The EFM is able to hire, fire (except for elected officials), lay off, reorganize departments, renegotiate union and supplier agreements, etc., etc. He is required by law to identify and report criminal activity on the part of current or past city administration officials. Basically, the EFM is empowered to do whatever it takes to get the municipality solvent within an 18-month span and name names if malfeasance is discovered. The EFM reports directly to the governor.

It's tough medicine. More states should have this law on their books...

[Craig]

Oh well, at least we get some great photography...