U.S.A.F. inventory in 1959

[Skia]

:seasix: :seasix: :seasix: 2 of them are still flying and defending

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/skia58/859151_549535455080427_1732693839_o_zpsc476d3d1.jpg

[Sea Six]

C-130 and B-52 I'm guessing.

[Skia]

C-130 and B-52 I'm guessing.You would be correct. I'm sorry there is a 3rd, the KC-135 I think is still in service. :yesnod:

[onedef92]

Do I see an F-101 Delta Dart in that mofo, too? Used to be real sharp on aircraft recog. in my AFROTC days.

[Sea Six]

Do I see an F-101 Delta Dart in that mofo, too? Used to be real sharp on aircraft recog. in my AFROTC days.

The 101 was the Voodoo.

The Delta Dart was either the 102 or the 106. I think the 106.

[island14]

Lower Center of the pic, I think I built a model of one like it when I was a kid.

What is it?

[Sea Six]

Lower Center of the pic, I think I built a model of one like it when I was a kid.

What is it?

I believe that's the F102. The 106 had a longer nose. The pic cuts it off and I'm not sure though.

[onedef92]

Lower Center of the pic, I think I built a model of one like it when I was a kid.

What is it?

I guarantee I built every one of the fighters and most of the bombers. I had hundreds of aircraft suspended from the ceiling of my bedroom via fishing string.

[Sea Six]

I'm going with the 102.

http://www.aircraftinformation.info/Images/F-102_02.jpg

[island14]

Looks like it to me.. :seasix:

Took me a long time to put it together, paint it all nice and right, and then put all the decals in the right places..



Then it got blown up with a few M-80's :D

[Skia]

Interesting to see the B-29 still in inventory at that time. :yesnod:

[Sea Six]

Interesting to see the B-29 still in inventory at that time. :yesnod:

If I'm not mistaken it was the delivery a/c for The Bomb until the B-52 phased it out.

[Skia]

If I'm not mistaken it was the delivery a/c for The Bomb until the B-52 phased it out.Well you had the B-36 and the B-47 both are pictured that was used for H-Bomb delivery after the 29. :yesnod:

[Sea Six]

Well you had the B-36 and the B-47 both are pictured that was used for H-Bomb delivery after the 29. :yesnod:

Yes, that's right. Funny-looking a/c, that B-36, with the six propellers ... all mounted on the rear of the wing.

:funny:

[lallend]

It was just a few years later that the AF was playing with stuff like this...



http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee138/lallend/PostPics/XB-70.jpg

[Skia]

Yes, that's right. Funny-looking a/c, that B-36, with the six propellers ... all mounted on the rear of the wing.

:funny:
6 Double compound radials and 4 Jets in outboard pods....hence the phrase "6 turnin and 4 burn'n"

[Kevin_73]

Interesting to see the B-29 still in inventory at that time. :yesnod:

:nono:
That appears to be a B-50.

Boeing B-50 Superfortress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-50_Superfortress)

[Skia]

:nono:
That appears to be a B-50.

Boeing B-50 Superfortress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-50_Superfortress)Thanks Kevin. I knew it wasn't a B-29 but had forgotten the B-50 designation....other than engines I do believe they are pretty much the same A/C. :yesnod:

[island14]

It was just a few years later that the AF was playing with stuff like this...



http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee138/lallend/PostPics/XB-70.jpg

I remember seeing it at Wright Pat when I was a kid :seasix:

Was it meant to drop "The Bomb" ? :island14:

[Kevin_73]

Thanks Kevin. I knew it wasn't a B-29 but had forgotten the B-50 designation....other than engines I do believe they are pretty much the same A/C. :yesnod:

The vertical tail is much taller on the B-50. Always a dead giveaway. :yesnod:

[63C2splitter]

KC-97

[lallend]

I remember seeing it at Wright Pat when I was a kid :seasix:

Was it meant to drop "The Bomb" ? :island14:That and any other type of ordinance I suppose. It's main trick is being a supersonic bomber...

[BuckyThreadkiller]

What was the .mil designation on the Constellation?

[Skia]

What was the .mil designation on the Constellation?That one looks like a EC-121D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation_variants

[63C2splitter]

Boeing KC-97 Stratotanker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-97_Stratotanker)

The B29 looking AC is a KC-97. You can see the ruddevators in the pic. It was later phased out as the KC-135s were rolled out. It did stay active for many years in the reserves.

[Sea Six]

K.C. And The Sunshine Band

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/573905/KC+and+The+Sunshine+Band.jpg



You can distinguish them by their wingtips (shoes). Only visible in certain pictures though.

[Grey Ghost]

The jet trainer in front of the helicopter may still be used today ? I remember them being used in the 80's. T-33/37 or something ?

[Mike Mercury]

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/skia58/859151_549535455080427_1732693839_o_zpsc476d3d1.jpg

I've been in a B36; specifically the one at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio.

There was a special night-time opening, for members of the EAA. Got to go into the B36, up in the cockpit (was able to stick my head up into the bubble canopy - the wing looked HUGE from that view)... and was able to shimmy down the cat-walk track in that small trolly car.

Was also able to sit in a P51, the ME-262, the B25, and the British Mosquito.

Although the B36 was super cool; I almost creamed my jeans sitting in the ME-262. After sitting in American WWII fighters; climbing into the ME-262 was like going into the future 30 years.

[DukeAllen]

The jet trainer in front of the helicopter may still be used today ? I remember them being used in the 80's. T-33/37 or something ?

T-37, phased out in '09.
fyi 102 was the Delta Dagger, 106 was the Delta Dart.

[DukeAllen]

Although the B36 was super cool; I almost creamed my jeans sitting in the ME-262. After sitting in American WWII fighters; climbing into the ME-262 was like going into the future 30 years.

Damn! I'm turning green. 262 is my favorite plane. I'd have crapped my pants if someone said to put my ass in it:yesnod:

[Mike Mercury]

B36 startup; Jimmy Stewart - SAC

Six Turnin and Four Burnin - YouTube

[Mike Mercury]

1948 pic:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Carswell_Bomber_Static_Display.jpg

early pre-jet-engine era for the B36

[MrPeabody]

:seasix: :seasix: :seasix: 2 of them are still flying and defending

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/skia58/859151_549535455080427_1732693839_o_zpsc476d3d1.jpg

I can think of one that's missing from the picture, the C-47 Dakota?

[lander]

I can think of one that's missing from the picture, the C-47 Dakota?

Good catch, you are correct, it should be there as it flew through the mid 70's I believe for the USAF.

My dad flew them in WWII. The Dakota was the RAF designation, the Army was Skytrain. Interestingly when he would talk about flying them, he always called it by the civilian "DC3".

[MrPeabody]

I flew as a passenger when I was a kid in the 50s on a DC-3 (C-47). Capital Airlines out of Wash DC.

[Norm]

Cool stuff. Don't see the U-2, probably too hush-hush back in that era, started flying in '55.

[MrPeabody]

Cool stuff. Don't see the U-2, probably too hush-hush back in that era, started flying in '55.

Good point.:seasix:

[Rotorhead]

I met a pilot who flew f-4's in Nam. He said that when they refueled by air, and went to break away they had to push the stick down because there was fuel spillage of a few gallons. The fuel would enter into the intake and cause a sudden thrust in the F-4 and would increase the climb rate. He said he watched another pilot clip the wing off a C-130 because he forgot to push the stick fwd. :eek:

[Dan Dlabay]

I have seen a lot of those planes at the Air Force Museum at Wright Patterson Air Force base. If you like Air Force history the USAF Museum outside of Dayton Ohio is a place to visit. I go at lest once a year.:cert:

[DukeAllen]

I have seen a lot of those planes at the Air Force Museum at Wright Patterson Air Force base. If you like Air Force history the USAF Museum outside of Dayton Ohio is a place to visit. I go at lest once a year.:cert:

:iagree: This. I've been once, but definitely going again someday.

[Mike Mercury]

Cool stuff. Don't see the U-2, probably too hush-hush back in that era, started flying in '55.

The O)P's pic was dated 1959

The U2's first mission was in 1956.

Gary Powers was shot down in 1960.

[Kevin_73]

The O)P's pic was dated 1959

The U2's first mission was in 1956.

Gary Powers was shot down in 1960.

Gary Powers was a civilian flying for the CIA. The USAF probably didn't own any U2's at that time.

[MrPeabody]

I don't remember exactly because I was just a kid, but I think the general public wasn't even aware of the existence of the U2 until the russians shot one down.

[Cybercowboy]

B36 startup; Jimmy Stewart - SAC

Six Turnin and Four Burnin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGjyH2ulsCk)

Wait a minute, I thought Colonel Potter was in the Army (you hear his voice in the Engineer station...)

[Grey Ghost]

If you are ever traveling through South GA. on I-75, near Warner Robbins (South of Macon). There is a wonderful museum there ! Several bldgs. full of planes and equipment on display.

Museum of Aviation Warner Robins Georgia (http://www.museumofaviation.org/)

I have seen a lot of those planes at the Air Force Museum at Wright Patterson Air Force base. If you like Air Force history the USAF Museum outside of Dayton Ohio is a place to visit. I go at lest once a year.:cert:

[Mike Mercury]

I don't remember exactly because I was just a kid, but I think the general public wasn't even aware of the existence of the U2 until the russians shot one down.

and that was the point of the dates. The U2 was secret until the Powers incident 1960. That's why it wouldn't be included in a 1959 general aviation pic.

[Grey Ghost]

I knew a U-2 ground crew veteran. He said that when they removed the film canisters after a mission, they were escorted by heavily armed airman to the development room.

[Norm]

I have seen a lot of those planes at the Air Force Museum at Wright Patterson Air Force base. If you like Air Force history the USAF Museum outside of Dayton Ohio is a place to visit. I go at lest once a year.:cert:

Was there about 12 years ago, didn't have enough time to take it all in, will be there in early May, first stop on our out west tour of the country.

[Bucwheat]

The 101 was the Voodoo.

The Delta Dart was either the 102 or the 106. I think the 106.

I was thinking 104 maybe.

[Kevin_73]

The 101 was the Voodoo.

The Delta Dart was either the 102 or the 106. I think the 106.

I was thinking 104 maybe.

F-100 = Super Sabre
F-101 = Voodoo
F-102 = Delta Dart
F-104 = Starfighter
F-105 = Thunderchief
F-106 = Delta Dagger

103, 107, 108, and 109 never went into service.

[Bucwheat]

F-100 = Super Sabre
F-101 = Voodoo
F-102 = Delta Dart
F-104 = Starfighter
F-106 = Delta Dagger

103, 105, 107, 108, and 109 never went into service.

:seasix:

[Sea Six]

F-100 = Super Sabre
F-101 = Voodoo
F-102 = Delta Dart
F-104 = Starfighter
F-105 = Thunderchief
F-106 = Delta Dagger

103, 107, 108, and 109 never went into service.

Swap the 102 and the 106. :seasix:

[Fastguy]

Yes, that's right. Funny-looking a/c, that B-36, with the six propellers ... all mounted on the rear of the wing.

:funny:

Peacemaker, also has JATO. I have a bunch of pics somewhere at my parent's house from the early 60's when my Dad was stationed at langley in VA. It was mostly C130's and F4's.

[snide]

Those birds have nothing on the Avro Arrow... :leaving:

[Skia]

Those birds have nothing on the Avro Arrow... :leaving:
Would have been one hell of a warbird.....if it would have lived.....

http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/27/avroarrow2.jpg

[snide]

Would have been one hell of a warbird.....if it would have lived.....

http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/27/avroarrow2.jpg

That bird scared the shit out of you Yanks, who then pressured the Canuckistans to not build it. :(

[Skia]

That bird scared the shit out of you Yanks, who then pressured the Canuckistans to not build it. :(
I've heard that, watched a documentary few years ago on the Arrow....crying aZz shame....Avro had a winner...:yesnod:

[snide]

I've heard that, watched a documentary few years ago on the Arrow....crying aZz shame....Avro had a winner...:yesnod:

Indeed. Oh well.

[Grey Ghost]

The new breed. Unmanned Avanti

http://www.aviationweek.com/media/images/fullsize/Defense/Miscellaneous/Piaggio_HammerHead_Piaggio.jpg


Those birds have nothing on the Avro Arrow... :leaving:

[JRD77VET]

Those birds have nothing on the Avro Arrow... :leaving:

Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow)

[onedef92]

If you are ever traveling through South GA. on I-75, near Warner Robbins (South of Macon). There is a wonderful museum there ! Several bldgs. full of planes and equipment on display.

Museum of Aviation Warner Robins Georgia (http://www.museumofaviation.org/)

I know the place. My brothers and I have stopped there several times. :seasix:

[onedef92]

:iagree: This. I've been once, but definitely going again someday.

The Smithsonian Institute in D.C. has some kick-ass air and spacecraft, too. Where else can you see the Wright Brothers flyer, the Spirit of 76, and a full-scale mock-up of Luke Skwalker's X-wing fighter all in one fell swoop?

[DukeAllen]

The Smithsonian Institute in D.C. has some kick-ass air and spacecraft, too. Where else can you see the Wright Brothers flyer, the Spirit of 76, and a full-scale mock-up of Luke Skwalker's X-wing fighter all in one fell swoop?

Been there many times, as well as the annex at Dulles. Hoping to go again to see the shuttle.

When I was 16 I leaned over the railing and touched the Me262. Almost an orgasmic moment for this nerd. Of course the guard following me the rest of the visit wasn't:lol:

[onedef92]

Been there many times, as well as the annex at Dulles. Hoping to go again to see the shuttle.

When I was 16 I leaned over the railing and touched the Me262. Almost an orgasmic moment for this nerd. Of course the guard following me the rest of the visit wasn't:lol:

I was barely 18 on my first visit and got to see the bridge of the U.S.S. Enterprise from Star Trek lore. It was part of a sci-fi exhibit that year. Seeing Kirk's command chair was the epitome of interstellar geekdom.

[DukeAllen]

I was barely 18 on my first visit and got to see the bridge of the U.S.S. Enterprise from Star Trek lore. It was part of a sci-fi exhibit that year. Seeing Kirk's command chair was the epitome of interstellar geekdom.

I sat in Kirk's chair at the Franklin Institute. :D

Or was it the Starfleet Museum?:leaving:

[onedef92]

I sat in Kirk's chair at the Franklin Institute. :D

Or was it the Starfleet Museum?:leaving:

Star Trek Prop, Costume & Auction Authority: Captain Kirk's Chair from Star Trek: The Original Series (http://www.startrekpropauthority.com/2008/06/captain-kirks-chair-from-star-trek.html)

They auctioned that joker off in 2008 at an auction. It fetched more than 300K! :eek:

[DukeAllen]

They auctioned that joker off in 2008 at an auction. It fetched more than 300K! :eek:

That's a lot of gold pressed latinum:leaving:

[onedef92]

That's a lot of gold pressed latinum:leaving:

Someone definitely lived long enough to prosper! :yesnod:

[lallend]

When I was 16 I leaned over the railing and touched the Me262. Almost an orgasmic moment for this nerd. Of course the guard following me the rest of the visit wasn't:lol:

Imagine if ya were a P-51 pilot, thinking ya were a badazz, then suddenly one of them zips on by...


http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee138/lallend/DC/P6020226.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee138/lallend/DC/P6020227.jpg

[DukeAllen]

Well...at least I see they washed my drool off the wing :lol:

[Kevin_73]

I was fortunate enough to get to tour the initial factory in Ft Worth where the flying replica ME-262's were being manufactured in 1998.
They had two different original airplanes (one single seat, and one two seat trainer) that they were using for patterns, and also restoring for museum display.
From these patterns they were manufacturing every single part to build 6 brand new ME-262's. It was amazing!
Instead of the original Jumo engines they were installing GE turbofans (I don't remember the model, but they were Learjet engines). In order to install the much smaller engines in the nacelles they built massive aluminum clamshell castings with the outer dimensions similar in size and shape to the Jumo and the inner part had mounting points for the GE. It was a really interesting way to solve the mounting (and weight and balance) problems.

Not long after I got to see all of this the company shut down due to money problems. The whole operation was eventually sold and moved to Washington state. I'm pretty sure they finished at least 3 or 4 of the airplanes. I sure would love to go for a flight in one of them.

I scanned pics a few years ago. I will post them later.

[DukeAllen]

The 2 seat pattern plane was sent back to Willow Grove NAS in Pennsylvania, where it had been displayed since the 50s. I visited it many times, until they sent it to the naval aviation museum in Pensacola. Now I have to get down there...
The replicas have GE CJ610 engines, non-afterburning version of the T-38 J85 engine.

[Kevin_73]

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262001.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262002.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262003.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262004.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262005.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262006.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262007.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262008.jpg

[Kevin_73]

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262009.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262010.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262011.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262012.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262013.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262014.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262015.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262016.jpg

[Kevin_73]

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262017.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262018.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262019.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262020.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262021.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262022.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262023.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262024.jpg

[Kevin_73]

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262025.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262026.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262027.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262028.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262029.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262030.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262031.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262032.jpg

[Kevin_73]

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262033.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262034.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262035.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262.jpg

[erickpl]

It was just a few years later that the AF was playing with stuff like this...



http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee138/lallend/PostPics/XB-70.jpg

That smaller one may be more familiar in the NASA black...

https://static.prtst.net/asset-proxy/f127619b015e857111555a3f5593be3e9a422dbf/687474703a2f2f626c6f672e7374616761757374696e2e636f6d2f77702d636f6e74656e742f75706c6f6164732f323031322f30382f50696c6f745f4e65696c5f41726d7374726f6e675f616e645f582d31355f2d315f2d5f47504e2d323030302d3030303132312e6a7067/http://blog.stagaustin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Pilot_Neil_Armstrong_and_X-15_-1_-_GPN-2000-000121.jpg

Yes, that's Neil Armstrong.

[onedef92]

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262033.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262034.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262035.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd18/KWHITLOW/ME-262/ME-262.jpg

"Military secrets are the most fleeting of all (and shit)" Mr. Spock, ST:TOS, 1968, episode No. 60 "The Enterprise Incident"