do mechanics make house calls?

[Montehall]

I kinda figure they would, but it would be cost prohibitive.

Any one have experience with that?

[Jeff '79]

No, but did you figure out what the noise is/was?:waiting:

[Montehall]

No, but did you figure out what the noise is/was?:waiting:
No clue, but i fear it may be catastrophic at this point... Been conversing at "the other place" about it, and we are up to bad cam, lifters, or "other"


here it is "running"
the smoke it oil coming off the exhaust manifold since I had the pass. side valve cover off.
my hand was resting on the A-pillar, and so when the camera shakes, that's from the car.

running, Cast Iron intake - YouTube

[Jeff '79]

Whoa.... That sounds really sick......:sadangel:
All that work, and you get that....Bummer.:shots:

[JRD77VET]

Sorry Steve but that sounds really bad. Maybe you did get antifreeze in your bearings :sadangel:

[m and t's77]

Perform a compression test on it yet? For better or worse sounds like speed buggy at least.:leaving:

Speed Buggy (1973) - Intro (Opening) - YouTube

[Mirroredshades]

Sorry dude. Your car has got da aids.

[Montehall]

Perform a compression test on it yet? For better or worse sounds like speed buggy at least.:leaving:

Speed Buggy (1973) - Intro (Opening) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hx-hEWl10c)
That got a chuckle out of me.

[Blue 92]

Whoa.... That sounds really sick......:sadangel:


You may want to end it's pain. :yesnod:


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5h5v5B2kHPdBCc06n2RZ2ki1KpUHcFaTGnhWIj4B_997zTz-4aw

:sadangel:

[DJ_Critterus]

You may want to end it's pain. :yesnod:


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5h5v5B2kHPdBCc06n2RZ2ki1KpUHcFaTGnhWIj4B_997zTz-4aw

:sadangel:

When in doubt, go with The Handle :thehandle:

[GRN ENVY]

Over tightened rockers causing bent push rods not enough movement in the heads would be my guess

[DJ_Critterus]

do mechanics make house calls?

Only in pr0n :yesnod: Are you looking for a big hunky mechanic to check your exhaust? I hear KP isn't that hunky, but he's willing to check anyway.

[Montehall]

it's a cast iron block...
http://www.barrett.net/images/firearms/model95gun.png

[mike100]

I actually had a drivetrain specialist do a ring&pinion at my house out of a mobile van once.

He was setup 10x better than any mobile service i had ever seen and my car was in better condition and the work space was cleaned up for him real well. he said it was rare for him to have it that easy and mobile service was a pain in the ass.

generally, I wouldn't think anybody is going to be doing it these days.

[Aerovette]

My parents used a mobile mechanic one time. The guy was not very good. Charged a lot. Didn't resolve the issue. He wanted to come back, but they said no.

[Fastguy]

You need some gearhead friends, a case of beer and some pizzas.

[Montehall]

My gear head friends either don't know much about carbs, or only own metric wrenches.

[mrvette]

My gear head friends either don't know much about carbs, or only own metric wrenches.

I would THINK that anywhere in Texas, there would be mobile mechanics around, check Craigslist they all OVER here looking for work....

but a few friends and a 6 pak is the way to go man.....

:dance::seasix:

[Stangkiller]

I have a great mobile mechanic.

[Montehall]

I have a great mobile mechanic.
Who?

[ConstantChange]

It'll cost more, but I'd rather tow it to a good shop. No good mechanic I know would work out of a mobile setup.

[87 Ragtop]

This will fix it... :leaving:

97 04 GTO Corvette LS6 LS1 Engine 6 Speed Transmission 79K Camaro Complete Swap | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-04-GTO-Corvette-LS6-LS1-Engine-6-speed-Transmission-79k-Camaro-Complete-Swap-/321058346429?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac09195bd&vxp=mtr)

[RED-85-Z51]

You sure its timed right? i know the dist. has to come out to do the intake..is it possible its waythe****off?

[Montehall]

It's always possible... But I've noticed with my timing, it either runs our it doesn't . This is... new

I set tdc when i pull the distributor, goes back in the same way.

[Montehall]

I found a guy, who is a retired Coast Guard Master Chief Machinery Tech, and he runs a garage about 6 miles from me, he told me he'd give me a diagnosis, gratis, if I could get the car there. I asked if he did house calls, he told me he used to, but too many people either wouldn't have the battery charged up, or no gas, or parts off, that he stopped doing it.
6 miles... I don't think the car has it in her.

[mike100]

maybe a 6 mile tow is in your future.

[m and t's77]

maybe a 6 mile tow is in your future.

Six miles is eternal when you car is not right.Be cheaper and faster calling the wreaker before you start off then trying to get one on the side of the road.

[Bucwheat]

We have a GM dealer that has a mobile van that does house calls.

[Montehall]

I don't even want them to fix it, just look at it and diagnose.

[Aerovette]

You sure its timed right? i know the dist. has to come out to do the intake..is it possible its waythe****off?

Crossed plug wires? ????

[Montehall]

Crossed plug wires? ????
c'mon, man... give me a little credit.

I'll check when I get home

[mrvette]

c'mon, man... give me a little credit.

I'll check when I get home

CHECK 5 & 7......and 4 & 3 just for your own sanity sake.....

BTDT.....

:dance::shots:

[C5Nate]

CHECK 5 & 7......and 4 & 3 just for your own sanity sake.....

BTDT.....

:dance::shots:


:iagree:

Overhauled and built more engines than I can remember. Sometimes the simple shit can get the best of us.

Before taking it anywhere, do an oil change, check for metal, sludge and antifreeze.

[Montehall]

just from the oil cycling through, and pulling the distributor numerous time, I can verify no glitter or antifreeze in the oil (and I know what anti-freeze looks like :) )

[C5Nate]

just from the oil cycling through, and pulling the distributor numerous time, I can verify no glitter or antifreeze in the oil (and I know what anti-freeze looks like :) )

The metal will be trapped by the filter or settle on the bottom of the pan. ONLY way to tell is pull the pan or check for metal in the oil when drained.

Yes, antifreeze will be easy to identify.


BTDT on both accounts.

[Joecooool]

My boat mechanic does.

[lallend]

You sure its timed right? i know the dist. has to come out to do the intake..is it possible its waythe****off?

Could be 180 out. Monte, just for grins and giggles, how bout lifting up the distributor and turning the rotor 180 degrees and see what happens...

[Montehall]

Could be 180 out. Monte, just for grins and giggles, how bout lifting up the distributor and turning the rotor 180 degrees and see what happens...
if it's 180 out it won't run at all.
just backfire through the carb.

experiance speaking.

[lallend]

if it's 180 out it won't run at all.
just backfire through the carb.

experiance speaking.

The last time I had an engine 180 out was on a Mopar 440. It has a slot for the distributor and was an easy mistake. Sounded just like your video above...

[Montehall]

The last time I had an engine 180 out was on a Mopar 440. It has a slot for the distributor and was an easy mistake. Sounded just like your video above...
I just tried that... won't run at all if I flip the dist, just puff blue smoke out the carb.

on a side note... and this is probably bad, but when I re-TDC'd the engine, I didn't replace any of the rockers/pushrods on the passenger side. I put my breaker bar on the crank pulley, and that engine turned easy... real easy... like no heads easy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the lack of rockers not let the compression out of the cylinders on that side? Guessing my rings are gone.

[VetteBoy1979]

Ouch. Can't Mullet come tow you with his BMW? He's just down the street, right?

[lallend]

I just tried that... won't run at all if I flip the dist, just puff blue smoke out the carb.

on a side note... and this is probably bad, but when I re-TDC'd the engine, I didn't replace any of the rockers/pushrods on the passenger side. I put my breaker bar on the crank pulley, and that engine turned easy... real easy... like no heads easy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the lack of rockers not let the compression out of the cylinders on that side? Guessing my rings are gone.

You really need to run a compression test...

[The_Dude]

You should be able to rent a u-haul flatbed for $50 to get it to him. You still have the F350, right?

[Fastguy]

That video is painful to listen to. It sounds like a rod.

[Jeff '79]

You should be able to rent a u-haul flatbed for $50 to get it to him. You still have the F350, right?

There goes the money that he saved on the valve covers.....:wtf:

[Montehall]

Ouch. Can't Mullet come tow you with his BMW? He's just down the street, right?

I don't need a BMW (see below)
You should be able to rent a u-haul flatbed for $50 to get it to him. You still have the F350, right?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Wilson1911/Truck/DSCN1867.jpg

You really need to run a compression test...
bought this a few months ago... tried it on cylinder #1 when I first got it, read around 90 or 100 psi after three "bumps"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Wilson1911/2013-01-29_18-13-11_695.jpg

[Fastguy]

You need to pull all the plugs and hold the throttle open to test it. You should be seeing around 140psi, not 90.

[Montehall]

also, when I tried to start the car (the the dist going the right direction) my carb blew the air filter gasket ring clear of the car. that was odd.

[The_Dude]

Nothing listed here explains the rocker that you had to excessively tighten.

[Montehall]

Nothing listed here explains the rocker that you had to excessively tighten.
or the squeal.

[The_Dude]

Have you watched to make sure ALL of the rockers open and close evenly when someone turns over the engine?

[JRD77VET]

That video is painful to listen to. It sounds like a rod.

Here's what it's time for ......

Monty Python-Holy Hand Grenade - YouTube

[99 pewtercoupe]

Here's what it's time for ......

Monty Python-Holy Hand Grenade - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Fastguy]

also, when I tried to start the car (the the dist going the right direction) my carb blew the air filter gasket ring clear of the car. that was odd.

You pooled a bunch of fuel and it ignited. You are lucky that is all that happened. On a typical V8, when you have the dist 180* out, it will either backfire through the exhaust and blow the mufflers apart, or backfire out the intake and blow the intake manifold gaskets out.

[Montehall]

You need to pull all the plugs and hold the throttle open to test it. You should be seeing around 140psi, not 90.
when I did it, I only had the #1 pulled, and the "batt" plug pulled on the HEI.
and I just cranked a few time. It went to 30#, the 60#, then stopped at 90# or so.

[C5Nate]

You pooled a bunch of fuel and it ignited. You are lucky that is all that happened. On a typical V8, when you have the dist 180* out, it will either backfire through the exhaust and blow the mufflers apart, or backfire out the intake and blow the intake manifold gaskets out.

I remember back in the day we would turn the ignition off while going about 35 mph while still in gear. Engine vacuum would pull gas into the cylinder but it would not ignite since the the key was off. After a few seconds, turn the key back on, engine would start and loud boom would come out of the exhaust from the unspent gasses igniting.

On glass packs, it would blow out the fiberglass packing. On the "turbo" type mufflers, it would sometimes do the same or swell the outside of the muffler skin. On stock mufflers, it would often blow the muffler clear off the car.

Things you could do pre-computer age.

[Montehall]

so I just got done with the compression test... sort of.
first off, I can see why I4's aren't the bad.

here are the numbers, and spark plug condition; I ran the test twice on each cylinder.
1: 125 psi, plug was oily

3: 110 psi, plug was oily

5: 110 psi, plug was oily (seeing a trend?)

7: 110 psi, plug was oily

2: 120 psi, plug had alot of oil on it, and created a fillet around the electrode.

8 (bear with me, this was the hardest to get so ,I figured I'd get it done first): 115 psi, plug was oily

6: 90 psi, then 30, plug was sooty black, but dry

4: 0 psi: plug was oily.


I did 6 and 4 last, but I honestly think my compression gauge broke, so I tried 2 again and got 0... if I cranked for a while it went up to 30. I took the gauge and ran spurts of compressed air into the hose, and it went up just a bit to about 20 or so, but wouldn't go higher.

[Montehall]

damn thing is probably full of oil.

on a side not, I did find one of my issues: when I first ran the compression test on #1, it go 0 psi.
upon inspection, I found that in order to properly lash the exhaust valve, that shit was stuck open. I backed off the nut some, and it's loose, but I get compression.

[Fastguy]

Ok, this is going to sound harsh, but start all over again and don't try following any internet tutorials that have you do multiple cylinders at once. Just do one at a time.

Take the valve cover off and turn the motor by hand using a 1/2 breaker bar on the crank bolt. This shouldn't be hard since the plugs are out. Once you know the cam is on its base circle and both valves are closed, back the nuts off completely. It takes very little to collapse a lifter plunger and I think that is what you have done, which is why the valves won't close. Grab a ratchet and socket and put it on the rocker stud. Make sure the pushrod is oiled and lightly spin it, I mean lightly, until you feel the slightest resistance, then go 1/2 turn. It is easy to make the tick go away on a running motor by simply putting pressure on it with a ratchet so it is easy to overtighten thinking youa re doing it right.. I have to run but I'll post more later.

[Montehall]

how I did my valve lash: I started at TDC, then I rotated the engine by hand until the Exhaust closed then began to open on cylinder #1, at this point, I set the lash on the intake valve. I actually took the nut completely off, then tightened it while rolling the push rod between my thumb and forefinger. As soon as I wasn't able to to turn it, I went a half turn.
I then rotated the engine again, until the intake valve jsut began to close, and tightened the exhaust valve the same way.
I repeated this all the way around. probably did way too much turning the engine, but I got it done.
My Haynes engine manual and a few other people told me to go a whole turn so after I was all done, I went and gave all of them another half turn. Then I took a paint pen and marked 12 o'clock on all the nuts to see if they moved.

[Fastguy]

OK, that is good, that is even more anal than the way I was talking about. One and a half turns is too much though. Once the valves are reset, make sure you set the timing correctly using a timing light, it doesn't take much to have it off and make the car chug or ping.

[Montehall]

here's where I'm at now. sitting about 8* or 10* BTDC

running after compression test - YouTube


BTW, if both valve covers are off, you shouldn't flip the throttle. my neighbor was less than impressed with the ensuing smoke.

[Montehall]

so this probably isn't good. I took this from inside the car, windshield is dirty.
boom - YouTube
I am low on gas, but I doubt it's related.
I edited out the end with me yelling "f**k!" and slamming my hands on the steering wheel... repeatedly

[Jeff '79]

I'm officially depressed..
On the bright side, It's still turning over.. :sadangel:

[Fastguy]

I think that motor is f'd up. Time to look for a replacement.

[Montehall]

I was debating driving to o'reillys to pick up a starter for my truck, so turned it around in my yard

it hasn't backfired since that one time.
new noise - YouTube

[Fastguy]

That could be a broken piston skirt squeaking along with piston slap and a rod knock. Whatever is making that noise is not something you can "adjust" away.

[Montehall]

this is just down the street from me
454 LS7 BBC ''REAL DEAL'' (http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/3586531549.html)

[Montehall]

so the general thesis behind this whole evolution is: my engine is crap?

[Jeff '79]

so the general thesis behind this whole evolution is: my engine is crap?

What did your mechanic say.
We can only suggest. W/O tearing it down, it's absolutely impossible to give a definite diagnosis....
Take the heads off, and post some pics.

[JRD77VET]

so the general thesis behind this whole evolution is: my engine is crap?

Although I read the other thread before listening to the video ( I made it 7 seconds before I stopped it), yes, it's a goner. :sadangel:

[Fastguy]

so the general thesis behind this whole evolution is: my engine is crap?

It's honestly hard to say,that noise may have been the drivetrain hammering itself, but it also could be a spun bearing due to low oil pressure.

[MrPeabody]

so the general thesis behind this whole evolution is: my engine is crap?

Let's put it this way. Red would not buy your engine.:kimblair:

[Stangkiller]

He cranked it for me, that's metal on metal, that motor needs to come out.

[Fastguy]

He cranked it for me, that's metal on metal, that motor needs to come out.

So, the squeaking is probably a broken skirt.

[C5Nate]

so the general thesis behind this whole evolution is: my engine is crap?


Drop the oil pan first, look for broken stuff. May just need a short block.


But, with the way your luck has been going, a long block may work best for you.