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island14
12-05-2012, 11:08am
"The government can go in– or the FBI, or other agencies of the government– they can go into their database, pull all that data collected"

Read more: NSA whistleblower: 'Everyone in the U.S. is under virtual surveillance | National News - News Talk 560 KLVI, Beaumont, Texas (http://www.klvi.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=10618441#ixzz2EC6v5GVI)

Rob
12-05-2012, 11:19am
"The government can go in– or the FBI, or other agencies of the government– they can go into their database, pull all that data collected"

Read more: NSA whistleblower: 'Everyone in the U.S. is under virtual surveillance | National News - News Talk 560 KLVI, Beaumont, Texas (http://www.klvi.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=10618441#ixzz2EC6v5GVI)

You have no idea the levels of data that is being collected in this country.

I have said it before and I will say it again - it is the data that is going to get us all in trouble. :yesnod:

Go back to this: http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/off-topic/24671-smart-meters-more-than.html and think about everything those meters will be able to monitor.

and today - throw in this: http://consumerist.com/2012/12/04/verizon-wants-to-monitor-whats-going-on-inside-your-home-to-target-you-with-ads/ ..... and you know they are not the only ones that will be monitoring you this way. Other companies will jump on as well.

Finally - throw in those little "discount" driving devices that insurance companies are trying to push on you now. Those probably have GPS tracking in them as well as car system monitoring. It will not be long before they start selling that to air play stations or XM like to push geographically designed adverts straight to your car.

They are watching

VatorMan
12-05-2012, 11:19am
Not surprising. One of the reasons I hate baby bush was because he passed the Patriot Act. He will forever go down in history as a douchebag because of it.

mikeg826
12-05-2012, 11:54am
You have no idea the levels of data that is being collected in this country.

I have said it before and I will say it again - it is the data that is going to get us all in trouble. :yesnod:

Go back to this: http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/off-topic/24671-smart-meters-more-than.html and think about everything those meters will be able to monitor.

and today - throw in this: Verizon’s Proposed DVR Would Know You’re Still Sitting In Your Pajamas, Air Ads For Real Pants ? The Consumerist (http://consumerist.com/2012/12/04/verizon-wants-to-monitor-whats-going-on-inside-your-home-to-target-you-with-ads/) ..... and you know they are not the only ones that will be monitoring you this way. Other companies will jump on as well.

Finally - throw in those little "discount" driving devices that insurance companies are trying to push on you now. Those probably have GPS tracking in them as well as car system monitoring. It will not be long before they start selling that to air play stations or XM like to push geographically designed adverts straight to your car.

They are watching

All those "traffic ahead" these states are installing on major highways have the ability to monitor your device signals to give their system data to estimate how long travel time is.


Here's another one for the tin-foil group:

Verizon patents targeted advertising method that determines if viewers are laughing, cuddling, sleeping or singing - FierceCable (http://www.fiercecable.com/story/verizon-patents-targeted-advertising-method-determines-if-viewers-are-laugh/2012-11-30)

Verizon is looking to patent a system that will "Monitor" TV watching area to get audio feedback, and Motorola and Comcast looked at this technology in the past.

Only a matter of time till the world if like Minority report with custom ads for each person based upon NFC.

:sadangel:

Fastguy
12-05-2012, 3:12pm
When I posted about the Utah facility, I was deemed a tinfoiler.

onedef92
12-05-2012, 3:16pm
America’s Titan Surpasses Sequoia as World’s Fastest Supercomputer

Posted: 11/25/12 8:33 AM

Recently, a throng of computer geeks descended on snowy Utah to show off, admire, and debate the future of the fastest computers on the planet. And of course, to find out which Boolean monster rules the roost. For the second time in 2012, a different supercomputer took top honors: Titan.

Titan is a Cray XK7 residing in Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL). According to the November Top500 list of most powerful supercomputers, the system notched 17.59 petaFLOP/s (floating point operations per second) as measured by the Linpack Benchmark. The previous mark of 16.32 petaFLOP/s was held by Lawrence Livermore Laboratory’s BlueGene/Q system, Sequoia.

While Titan is a new name, it is not an entirely new computer.

The system is a souped up version of ORNL’s previous Top500 list champ, Jaguar (November 2009 to June 2010). Although Titan occupies the same footprint and consumes about the same power as Jaguar, it is almost ten times faster. A mark that won Titan third on the Green500 list of most power efficient machines.

And that’s really a key point. Measuring and comparing speed is exciting, but the future of supercomputing depends on efficiency gains too.

In the last decade or so, engineers have increased power by building massively parallel systems. That is, engineers have been linking more and more processors and stuffing them into tighter and tighter spaces.

Indeed, the previous record holder, Sequoia, packs over 1.6 million processing cores. And to get from Jaguar to Titan, engineers increased the number of processing cores per node from 12 to 16—for a total of over 560,000.

But simply increasing the number of cores isn’t scalable long term—practically or economically. According to ORNL computational scientist Jim Hack, “We have ridden the current architecture about as far as we can.”

Jaguar was powered by 300,000 processors in 200 cabinets—upping performance by ten (as Titan has) would have required “2,000 cabinets on the floor, consume 10 times the power, et cetera.”

Titan is ten times speedier—but is also about the same size and requires the same amount of power as Jaguar. The system’s superior efficiency is thanks in part to an improved Cray system interconnect, upping communication volume and efficiency between processors. But Titan makes use of another increasingly popular strategy.

Instead of relying on traditional CPUs to do all the heavy lifting and higher level decision-making and communication, engineers are taking a page from high performance gaming. Installed in each of Titan’s 16-core nodes is an NVIDIA K20X Graphics Processing Unit (GPU).

The GPU co-processor serves as the system workhorse—not terribly bright, but immensely powerful.

GPUs handle all the really heavy computational work superfast, leaving the CPUs to direct traffic. This specialization realizes some pretty awesome efficiency gains without sacrificing speed to get there.

NVIDIA Tesla K20X GPU co-processor.

Beyond Titan, China’s Tianhe-1A—Top500 champ in 2010, now #8 on the list—uses GPU co-processors. In fact, 62 of the top 500 supercomputers use co-processors, up from 58 systems in June.

Chipmakers are taking note too.

Three big players revealed ultra high performance GPUs in November—NVIDIA’s Tesla K20X (utilized in Titan), Intel’s Xeon Phi (Knight’s Corner), and AMD’s FirePro S10000.

Supercomputers aren’t just getting speedier. They’re getting more speed per unit of power and space too. Maybe in the not too terribly distant future, we’ll remember today’s giant, power hungry machines with an incredulous shake of the head. Like those old room-sized Crays that now fit into a laptop.

onedef92
12-05-2012, 3:19pm
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m111/onedef92/HARDAC2.jpg

"Emergency! Emergency! Stop the one called 'Batman' and shit!"

kingpin
12-05-2012, 3:26pm
and if you think this is something new and it hasn't been going on for decades in one way or another then :sadangel:

mrvette
12-05-2012, 5:51pm
and if you think this is something new and it hasn't been going on for decades in one way or another then :sadangel:

DECADES??? bullshit.....no way man, not even close....

there WERE advantages to good old analogue 'tronics'......


still are, but they going to be awful bored watching ME, as much as I am bored watching THEM.....

I know what I"m watching....they don't.....


:issues::seasix::shots:

kylebuck
12-05-2012, 7:39pm
God... How will they ever find me of I lose all electronics and drive my 95 corvette

boracayjohnny
12-05-2012, 10:42pm
Just know this....if Uncle wants info on you, he will get it. The key is figuring out in all the traffic what belongs to who. It takes time but if Uncle wants the info, resources can be marshalled together.

CP
12-05-2012, 10:45pm
virtual surveillance != actual surveillance.

ft laud mike
12-06-2012, 10:18am
Just know this....if Uncle wants info on you, he will get it. The key is figuring out in all the traffic what belongs to who. It takes time but if Uncle wants the info, resources can be marshalled together.

:iagree:, the real question is, why would they give a feck about "you"?
They aren't going to waste their time trolling through all the crap on the internet unless a person has raised a few red flags

Sea Six
12-06-2012, 10:21am
First off, it's Linpack (an embarrassingly parallel test of number crunching that doesn't really touch the network or storage systems). Second, they got that number because they used GPUs to do it. Nobody knows how to utilize them to get real speed and I'd bet that if you asked the users on Titan (or Jaguar-PF) they'd rather have the older system sans-GPUs. :slap:

When I was at ORNL Jaguar-PF was either down, underutilized (and running a lot of small jobs that took advantage of next to none of the possible parallelism), or undergoing maintenance nearly the entire time. :lol:

Whatever you say, mrvette. :)

Sea Six
12-06-2012, 10:27am
:rofl: I'd like to think that while I may be as crazy as he is I do tend to be a bit more coherent. :D

Coherence is in the ear of the beholder.

ZipZap
12-06-2012, 12:15pm
A puzzler to me is if and when any IG acted upon this whistleblower's statements, and what were the results. The activities this guy portrays are in clear violation of EO 12333, which governs this type of activity. Any complaint that hit an IG door that smelled in the least bit fishy with regard to that particular EO, would be jumped on in an instant.

xXBUDXx
12-06-2012, 1:00pm
They are in for a surprise if they watch me while I'm watching them. :skep:

G8rDMD
12-06-2012, 10:33pm
God... How will they ever find me of I lose all electronics and drive my 95 corvette

They'll follow the smell?

Jeff '79
12-06-2012, 10:40pm
Allstate wanted to give me an extra 10% to have my two cars chipped.... I told them not to insult me, and that'll be the day that any company will have a tracking device on me. I don't have EZ Pass, or even a cell phone....
They still are watching me though...Direct TV, this computer that I'm typing on, my credit cards.... There's no escaping it anymore.:sadangel:

bierbelly
12-07-2012, 3:31pm
1984

mrvette
12-07-2012, 5:35pm
Allstate wanted to give me an extra 10% to have my two cars chipped.... I told them not to insult me, and that'll be the day that any company will have a tracking device on me. I don't have EZ Pass, or even a cell phone....
They still are watching me though...Direct TV, this computer that I'm typing on, my credit cards.... There's no escaping it anymore.:sadangel:

Lots of useless information, or misinformation for the misinformed.....huge time waster.....


AS to the modern car with all that BS on it.....just disable the systems,

most easily done by wrapping the antenna/module/phone like device in aluminum foil....they are OFF the air then, guaranfreekingTEED.....

I remember years ago my wife did not believe me about that trick....so I called her cphone, it rang of course.....I wrapped it on a single layer of tin foil, it did NOT ring....totally off the grid.....

it works on ANY wireless system, try it with your wi-fi shit....U C.....


:rofl::seasix: