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PLRX
11-01-2012, 8:49pm
Lets start this one from scratch.

Do I need to go to WAR with RedLine?

Genuine Italian leather shift boots - custom made for your car! - Page 3 - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-general-discussion/1973959-genuine-italian-leather-shift-boots-custom-made-for-your-car-3.html#post1582181279)

This is the PM I sent him yesterday, CC/infoed HP and Pewter99. He logged in today, and did not respond.

I'm giving him until Sunday afternoon to respond, and I will post the pictures on his thread, and a bash will go along with it.

Can I count of Barn support? :D






Red Line Goods,

I ordered a carbon fiber vinyl boot for my 95 automatic. The shifter is stock, so when I placed the order I chose the stock option.

It looks bad ass, but I'm not please with the way it fits the console, and the shifter column itself. The stock leather boot was old, but it had a tight fit from top to bottom.

I'd like to fix this issue as soon as possible with a replacement boot.

Thanks

Pete

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot1.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot2.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot3.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot4.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot5.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot6.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot7.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBoot8.jpg

PLRX
11-01-2012, 8:50pm
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Pete... the Redline boots don't just end up at the top. You have to fold it under, inside itself, and attach it to the actual shifter with a tie of some sort (I used a wire tie).

Not sure if this makes any sense, but basically put it on upside down and inside out. You can "adjust" the height as much as you need at that point. Once it is attached, flip it right side out and attach the bottom.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Random/2012-10-28_11-17-06_878.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Random/2012-10-28_11-10-14_214.jpg

Good tip Bryan. I took The Ghost's boot to a place and they stitched it. The problem is the entire boot I recently bought is bigger at the middle than the base. your shifter boot has the proper fit, mine looks like is wearing a loose tarp all around it.

Here is the boot the post at their website, and the boot they sent me.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBootComparison.jpg

OEM Boot

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/DSC00274.jpg

Their website
Chevrolet Corvette 1989-96 shift boot - RedlineGoods leather shift boot store (http://www.redlinegoods.com/C4shiftboot.php)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/RedLineC4SamplePicture.jpg

Yea.... that is definitely f-ed up. :ack:

I don't think I will get my money back. I will bash under every thread they post in the C3, C4, C5, C6, and C7. If you search, I already started with a small poke. Likely, (based on his posting history) he will put a holiday discount code, and I'm already rehearsing my attack.

I may not get my $59, but I will prevent few orders.-------PLRX (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/members/193497-plrx.html)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/CarbonFiberBoot2.jpg

PLRX
11-01-2012, 8:51pm
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Pete... the Redline boots don't just end up at the top. You have to fold it under, inside itself, and attach it to the actual shifter with a tie of some sort (I used a wire tie).

Not sure if this makes any sense, but basically put it on upside down and inside out. You can "adjust" the height as much as you need at that point. Once it is attached, flip it right side out and attach the bottom.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Random/2012-10-28_11-17-06_878.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p90/botch1980/Random/2012-10-28_11-10-14_214.jpg

Good tip Bryan. I took The Ghost's boot to a place and they stitched it. The problem is the entire boot I recently bought is bigger at the middle than the base. your shifter boot has the proper fit, mine looks like is wearing a loose tarp all around it.

Here is the boot the post at their website, and the boot they sent me.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/CarbonFiberBootComparison.jpg

OEM Boot

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/DSC00274.jpg

Their website
Chevrolet Corvette 1989-96 shift boot - RedlineGoods leather shift boot store (http://www.redlinegoods.com/C4shiftboot.php)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/BettyBoop/Interiors/Carbon%20Fiber%20Boot/RedLineC4SamplePicture.jpg

Yea.... that is definitely f-ed up. :ack:

I don't think I will get my money back. I will bash under every thread they post in the C3, C4, C5, C6, and C7. If you search, I already started with a small poke. Likely, (based on his posting history) he will put a holiday discount code, and I'm already rehearsing my attack.

I may not get my $59, but I will prevent few orders.-------PLRX (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/members/193497-plrx.html)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/CarbonFiberBoot2.jpg

Based on the search I did last night, they are from Poland. I assume he is using Google translator to communicate.

This morning he sent me another e-mail asking the same stupid questions, one of them if I was sure my car was an automatic. I responded, and for the first time he offered to refund my money. This is after I posted pictures, changed my profile, and started a dispute with PayPal.

That polack should be selling sausages instead of car parts. I bet he knows if they are hot or mild by looking at them.

I think this is him.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/shortorder/polish%20sausage.jpg

Damn...I pushed out things like that before. Thank God I discovered immodium:D

PLRX
11-01-2012, 8:53pm
I just received this email from him after he told me he was going to rrefund my money.

Hello!


PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU SEND US ANYTHING!

1. If you use USPS First Class Mail it will only cost around $10 and the shipment will arrive here within one week since you dispatch it. You might want to consider Global Express Mail, but it's usually more expensive. Please DO NOT USE Economy Mail it takes 6-8 weeks for delivery!

2. Please DO NOT DECLARE ANY CUSTOMS VALUE on the shipment - this will just delay the process and make us have to pay duties, which we will in turn ask of you.
So, the process will not only take longer, but it will cost you more.

3. Please IDENTIFY THE CONTENTS CLEARLY! We need to know who sent it (including your email address, preferably include a hardcopy of our past correspondence) and what is expected we do with it (if you already know your color preferences for the items we will send you in exchange, please include that information as well).

Please send to

REDLINEGOODS
Skr. Poczt. Nr. 4
81-040 Gdynia 25
POLAND

----
Have a great day,
Maciek

Do you guys think it is worth it doing all this hassle?

That crap cost me $60, $10-$15 to ship it, and likely he will come up with an excuse and will never pay anything back.

mike100
11-01-2012, 9:54pm
I think you got your $60 ($75 w shipping, lol) worth on the bashing front. You would probably feel better to blast it with a 12 ga than get your money back.

PLRX
11-01-2012, 10:23pm
I think you got your $60 ($75 w shipping, lol) worth on the bashing front. You would probably feel better to blast it with a 12 ga than get your money back.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

I thought of that few times. If I send it, he will claim it never got there, laugh at me, and probably re-sell it to another Vette Non-CF guy.

If I don't do it, I can keep telling the truth to all C4 members there.

Wathen1955
11-01-2012, 11:35pm
Why can't they simply refund your money and you keep the crappy boot? Jesus, WTF is wrong with people.

SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84
11-02-2012, 3:29am
Unless they also refund your shipping charges (1st time and this time), I think you're throwing good money after bad. Your posts and pix bit them well. They may want to keep the evidence and claim that it never arrived. I'd end it now. You have the pix and can be an advocate for suckers every time there's a dispute and really load the argument in the customer's favour.

You know what you got for your money that went to Poland, and you know the quality you found from a local Made-In-USA vendor!
:patriot:

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/realbunky/badday.jpg

DukeAllen
11-02-2012, 7:38am
I'm smelling scam. Keep up the paypal dispute if you can.

And I'm in pain just from looking at that pic the rat posted:kick:

C4fan
11-02-2012, 8:47am
I'd make sure everyone knows it's a polish company and post the address they gave to ship back. There are a lot of folks that wouldn't care to do business with a company that far away let alone not American. If I knew I had to send a part back to Poland for any reason i wouldn't buy in the first place.

Sweet 90
11-02-2012, 9:09am
Pete, tell them to send you a bottle of their finest Polish Vodka, or you'll take a video of the boot being executed by a shot gun:)

RedLS1GTO
11-02-2012, 9:45am
F*ck the 12ga blast. Hit them with a nuke.

Send a letter to US customs that they are shipping animal goods (leather) and BLANANTLY lying about it on their customs declaration, as well as telling customers to do the same thing.

2. Please DO NOT DECLARE ANY CUSTOMS VALUE on the shipment - this will just delay the process and make us have to pay duties, which we will in turn ask of you.
So, the process will not only take longer, but it will cost you more.

I know that yours isn't leather, but when I ordered mine... I actually did have leather parts. They were marked as "samples, imitation leather" or something like that.

Last I checked, falsifying customs forms was a felony.


http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ABomb.jpg

PLRX
11-02-2012, 12:54pm
Good point guys, they denied the dispute, and refused refunding my money I sent them via PayPal.

here is my latest response

Genuine Italian leather shift boots - custom made for your car! - Page 3 - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-general-discussion/1973959-genuine-italian-leather-shift-boots-custom-made-for-your-car-3.html#post1582231178)

SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84
11-02-2012, 1:09pm
Just read it! I liked your cut-and-paste of their encouraging you to break the law!:rofl:

Well done!!:seasix:

PLRX
11-02-2012, 1:27pm
Just read it! I liked your cut-and-paste of their encouraging you to break the law!:rofl:

Well done!!:seasix:

I am a Law Abiding Citizen. :seasix:

PLRX
11-02-2012, 1:44pm
F*ck the 12ga blast. Hit them with a nuke.

Send a letter to US customs that they are shipping animal goods (leather) and BLANANTLY lying about it on their customs declaration, as well as telling customers to do the same thing.



I know that yours isn't leather, but when I ordered mine... I actually did have leather parts. They were marked as "samples, imitation leather" or something like that.

Last I checked, falsifying customs forms was a felony.


http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ABomb.jpg

Good idea Bryan,

How about do something similar like this guy did to his oil filter.

( WARNING ) For You Fram Oil Filter Lover's.YouTube - YouTube

RedLS1GTO
11-02-2012, 2:16pm
Added my reply. :D

PLRX
11-02-2012, 4:24pm
Added my reply. :D

Yes, I saw that Ouch, you kicked him in the nutz with a spiked steel toe boot with a JATO behind it. :rofl::rofl::rofl:


JATO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guys, thanks for the response, I'm enjoying my $59!!

DukeAllen
11-02-2012, 5:02pm
Here Pete, have fun. It's a link to report illegal importing activities to US Customs :D
https://apps.cbp.gov/eallegations/

PLRX
11-02-2012, 5:07pm
Here Pete, have fun. It's a link to report illegal importing activities to US Customs :D
https://apps.cbp.gov/eallegations/

Thanks, I've been on it since Bryan wrote this morning. The $59 will be like a long-term
investment for them. I think I already had $59 with the fun. Everything from here on is profit.

Do you guys remember "PAYASO"?

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/COOL/PopoTheClown1.jpg

DukeAllen
11-02-2012, 5:18pm
Thanks, I've been on it since Bryan wrote this morning. The $59 will be like a long-term
investment for them. I think I already had $59 with the fun. Everything from here on is profit.

Do you guys remember "PAYASO"?

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/COOL/PopoTheClown1.jpg

That's the brightest pic of Mooshell I ever saw:lol:

five-oh
11-02-2012, 8:07pm
Pete, you've even got one of the posse's former target agreeing with you...."nathanours". :lol:
Redline really doesn't realize how much bad press can cost them. I wouldn't buy from them for anything now, and I'm betting there's several more potential sales walking away in disgust....

SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84
11-02-2012, 8:38pm
I'm curious. CF takes money from their vendors to post their advertising and their logos. CF also doesn't like anyone criticizing said vendors even though CF is vouching for the integrity of those vendors. This episode is sure to catch CF's attention and I wonder if CF will side with the forum member or this perp polack vendor who encouraged the member to violate U.S. law. Definitely worth watching....

PLRX
11-03-2012, 12:13am
I'm curious. CF takes money from their vendors to post their advertising and their logos. CF also doesn't like anyone criticizing said vendors even though CF is vouching for the integrity of those vendors. This episode is sure to catch CF's attention and I wonder if CF will side with the forum member or this perp polack vendor who encouraged the member to violate U.S. law. Definitely worth watching....

I'm waiting to see the outcome at the mod level.

There is a vendor selling crap, not willing to refund money, instructing people to violate US regulations, they are not in the USA, and likely use Google translator to post.

You can tell they are way off the clock, he usually post between 10:00 PM and after midnight.

Frizlefrak
11-03-2012, 1:38am
Pete, you've even got one of the posse's former target agreeing with you...."nathanours". :lol:
....

:iagree: Saw that too. Amazing. Just goes to show how much they really suck ballz.

If we could get CorvetteMike to come out of the hippie commune and chime in, that would be the icing on the cake. :rofl: