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kingpin
09-18-2012, 10:20am
Customer came in with this.

His 6 month old baby passed away and they had her cremated.
At the crematorium they have someone who makes these angel wings out of glass and inside the bubbles are the ashes.
It is then glued to a heavy piece of 1/4" Acrylic so they can hang it.

I've never seen anything like this before.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n130/kingpin111/d698c032.jpg

Blademaker
09-18-2012, 10:22am
If you're gonna frame it, for the love of God, don't break/drop it.

Sea Six
09-18-2012, 10:26am
Looks more like a horseshoe than a heart.

longhorn341
09-18-2012, 10:26am
If you're gonna frame it, for the love of God, don't break/drop it.

This... very important.

theanswriz42
09-18-2012, 10:26am
Part of me can appreciate it, and another part of me thinks it's a bit creepy. Imagine having guests over to your house asking about the "art" on the wall until you have to explain it's the ashes of your dead child. Sounds like an excellent way to kill conversation pretty quick.

kingpin
09-18-2012, 10:26am
If you're gonna frame it, for the love of God, don't break/drop it.

No kidding!

With stuff like this I have the customer sign a waiver clearing me and the business of any damage to it.
I have no idea how it's going to react when it's standing upright so I need to protect myself.

kingpin
09-18-2012, 10:28am
Looks more like a horseshoe than a heart.

Are angel wings supposed to be shaped like a heart?

jaxgator
09-18-2012, 10:29am
At the crematorium they have someone who makes these angel wings out of glass and inside the bubbles are the ashes.


Looks more like a horseshoe than a heart.

:slap:

mikeg826
09-18-2012, 10:30am
Looks more like a horseshoe than a heart.

It's angel wings, not a heart

:sadangel::sadangel: having two little ones, and knowing someone who is going through a tough time with their 3-yr old, i can only imagine the pain they've had to deal with.

NeedSpeed
09-18-2012, 10:31am
+1 for creepy.

simpleman68
09-18-2012, 10:42am
I think the concept of a memorial is a nice thought. However, in my opinion, it's time to let go as a parent and begin to heal. Staring at your child's ashes does not seem to be helpful for that.
Healing does not mean forgetting and I think that's where most folks get hung up.
Scott

Mike Mercury
09-18-2012, 10:44am
+1 for creepy.

+2

Yerf Dog
09-18-2012, 10:50am
Part of me can appreciate it, and another part of me thinks it's a bit creepy.

I'm going with 'all creepy'.

Kerrmudgeon
09-18-2012, 10:50am
I think that's really dumb. For one thing it doesn't look like angel wings to anyone looking at it, more like a broken heart to me. And second who wants to be constantly reminded about a catastrophic sad event every day for the rest of your life? :sadangel:

Bill
09-18-2012, 10:52am
I'm going with 'all creepy'.

:iagree:

No other way to look at that.

Blademaker
09-18-2012, 10:59am
My step mom held my Dad's ashes captive in an urn in her house for 5 years after his death. She said she would talk to, and sometimes, swear at them. He was finally interred in the local veterans cemetary.
No shit.

kingpin
09-18-2012, 11:14am
So I take it nobody else has seen this before? :lol:

RED-85-Z51
09-18-2012, 12:07pm
All I see is a red X...

RED-85-Z51
09-18-2012, 12:13pm
YSATI :D

its bad that ive never seen that before, but it only took about 3 seconds to figure it out...

Yerf Dog
09-18-2012, 12:14pm
The Big Lebowski - Ashes Scene - YouTube

snide
09-18-2012, 12:15pm
Part of me can appreciate it, and another part of me thinks it's a bit creepy. Imagine having guests over to your house asking about the "art" on the wall until you have to explain it's the ashes of your dead child. Sounds like an excellent way to kill conversation pretty quick.

"Sorry about your loss... So, how about the Leafs, eh?"

tshirts and jeans
09-18-2012, 1:18pm
i have never seen that before.....or at least knew that that was what i was looking at.......

but i would never judge them about the way that they have grieved until i have lost a child that i had raised for 6 mths either...... just my thoughts..:leaving:

kingpin
09-18-2012, 1:26pm
i have never seen that before.....or at least knew that that was what i was looking at.......

but i would never judge them about the way that they have grieved until i have lost a child that i had raised for 6 mths either...... just my thoughts..:leaving:

:barnbabe:

Pfft! You don't belong here if you can't judge someone without knowing them.
:D

But, very nicely put. :cert:

MEC5LADY
09-18-2012, 2:47pm
People grieve in different ways and I can't fault them for doing something like this but at the same time I can't help feel they are easy prey for people that do this "art". There are some jewelry makers that can make jewelry out of the dearly departed. Hell I still can't get over people that will do "glamour" shots with their deceased child. First time someone told me the baby in the pictures a group of us was looking at was dead I was :willy:
I've seen too many as it is and I don't need pictures to further feck with my head.

onedef92
09-18-2012, 2:51pm
So I take it nobody else has seen this before? :lol:

Have not seen it and have no desire to. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. :angel:

Kerrmudgeon
09-18-2012, 2:55pm
People grieve in different ways and I can't fault them for doing something like this but at the same time I can't help feel they are easy prey for people that do this "art". There are some jewelry makers that can make jewelry out of the dearly departed. Hell I still can't get over people that will do "glamour" shots with their deceased child. First time someone told me the baby in the pictures a group of us was looking at was dead I was :willy:
I've seen too many as it is and I don't need pictures to further feck with my head.

They can actually compress the ashes and make some kind of gemstone out of it, and make jewelery out of that. So much for dust to dust, more like dust to diamond! :skia:

Fastguy
09-18-2012, 2:56pm
First off, it looks like a tooth.
Second, human remains are not a display item. That is why urns are not transparent. To me this is the work of a predatory opportunist preying on someone's emotions when they are at their absolute most vulnerable.
Once the people hang it up, they can't take it down. What are you going to do with something that big once you realize how inappropriate it is? Stick it in a giant box on the mantle?

Fastguy
09-18-2012, 3:13pm
Hell I still can't get over people that will do "glamour" shots with their deceased child. First time someone told me the baby in the pictures a group of us was looking at was dead I was :willy: .

That is messed up, as is anyone that takes pics at a funeral.

kingpin
09-18-2012, 3:14pm
There's rational grieving then there's :wtf: were they thinking grieving.


Yeah but who are you to say what is rational or not. I didn't mean to sound disrespectful.
It's not like we are trying to prove a fact and it's black or white.

You understand what I'm saying.

Fastguy
09-18-2012, 3:26pm
Yeah but who are you to say what is rational or not. I didn't mean to sound disrespectful.
It's not like we are trying to prove a fact and it's black or white.

You understand what I'm saying.

Dead baby remains on display, not rational.

Bucwheat
09-18-2012, 7:18pm
I was going to say an urn is more traditional.

OddBall
09-18-2012, 7:24pm
I'm going with creepy.
They should let the child rest in peace.
His life and memory should amount to more than a display piece.

lspencer534
09-18-2012, 7:53pm
Cutting to the chase, that is creepy. I don't want to condemn the parents either, since I don't know them, but my first impression is that they probably shouldn't have been parents if they think of their daughter's remains as an object of display. I can understand their grief and sadness, and perhaps they aren't thinking clearly, but I think their willingness to 'disrespect' their daughter's remains is evidence of (what would have been) very poor parenting.

MikeB
09-18-2012, 8:12pm
Dead baby remains on display, not rational.

Yeah.
And what's up with that Lenin dude?

Fastguy
09-18-2012, 8:15pm
Yeah.
And what's up with that Lenin dude?

I always thought that was weird too.

kingpin
09-18-2012, 8:20pm
Well using that logic, why have laws, rules, standards and baselines?

Rational is a baseline. Displaying a dead human being like in the OP isn't rational, IMHO.

And so far, I'm not alone in that assessment. :cert:

I understand what you and everyone else is saying.
To me I never assumed they were going to be hanging it, let alone be hanging it in a place where everyine can see it.

One of the best places to keep something safe from damage is by framing it.
[cliff claven] in fact framing was originally done to keep things from getting damaged[cliff claven].
I have done a lot of this kind of work where you put the item, photo, document in a frame to preserve it and to keep fingers off of them.
The frames then get wrapped and put in a closet or under a bed.
Serious.

I figure this is what they will be doing with it. Is putting it away, but being encased it is less likely to get damaged.

ft laud mike
09-18-2012, 8:53pm
People grieve in different ways and I can't fault them for doing something like this but at the same time I can't help feel they are easy prey for people that do this "art". There are some jewelry makers that can make jewelry out of the dearly departed. Hell I still can't get over people that will do "glamour" shots with their deceased child. First time someone told me the baby in the pictures a group of us was looking at was dead I was :willy:
I've seen too many as it is and I don't need pictures to further feck with my head.

Glamour shots with deceased?,, little out there. Idon't see the big issue, I'll go against the consensus here and say I don't see it as creepy. That said, I couldn't imagine the pain of losing a child
:sadangel:

VatorMan
09-18-2012, 8:53pm
I'll join in the weird group. I'll never know their pain,but I just can't see how being reminded of it every day could be healthy.

BuckyThreadkiller
09-18-2012, 9:20pm
I can imagine having the boss over for dinner.

"What an interesting piece of art."

"Yes, that's the remains of Lacey, our first born daughter..."

"Oh, look at the time."



My dad does bronze sculpture and he's had several people ask him to make urns. That's a little more conventional, but I still think having old dead people on the mantle is not where I want to go.

Midnight85
09-18-2012, 9:23pm
I won't judge the grieving parents but I will say what my plans are when I die. I am to be fried, the ashes disposed of by whoever fries me then a "celebration of life" get-together will be held. No casket, no hole in the ground and no urn.

Bill
09-18-2012, 9:47pm
I can imagine having the boss over for dinner.

"What an interesting piece of art."

"Yes, that's the remains of Lacey, our first born daughter..."

"Oh, look at the time."



My dad does bronze sculpture and he's had several people ask him to make urns. That's a little more conventional, but I still think having old dead people on the mantle is not where I want to go.

Actually, this would be having a young dead person on the mantle.



[headed to bus stop for express ride to Hell]