Roger Clemens Not Guilty Of All Six Counts

[MrPeabody]

Breaking on cable news channels now.

[lspencer534]

No shit? Kinda surprises me.

[BuckyThreadkiller]

Amazing.


Justice is not only blind, but knows little about pharmacology.

[lspencer534]

Amazing.


Justice is not only blind, but knows little about pharmacology.

You're not gonna blame the lawyers???

[09CTSV]

The lawyers did it.

[Blademaker]

Roger Clemens acquitted on all counts (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2012/06/roger-clemens-verdict/1)

[BuckyThreadkiller]

You're not gonna blame the lawyers???

Give me a bit, counselor. I need to work up a good rant.

[jda67gta]

Amazing.


Justice is not only blind, but knows little about pharmacology.

You're not gonna blame the lawyers???


The lawyers are the only one's who made out in the deal.


The Feds never should have been involved in the first place. It was real important to have a Federal Commission investigate PED's in baseball...

[lspencer534]

Give me a bit, counselor. I need to work up a good rant.

Take your time. BTW, I'm the first to admit that sometimes the lawyers in a trial are mis-matched...one is better than the other. Juries like to see a clear winner and a loser. They also expect a show, because of TV or anecdotes. Does that decide whether a defendant is guilty or not? Of course not, but our legal system is an adverserial system. The prosecution has to prove each and every element of its case beyond a reasonable doubt, and the defense is entitled to poke holes in each and every element.

[Chris Fowler]

Amazing.


Justice is not only blind, but knows little about pharmacology.
Not guilty is not the same thing as innocent...

[MrPeabody]

Not guilty is not the same thing as innocent...

It is in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty.:seasix:

[78SA]

:dance:

[04 commemorative]

Not guilty is not the same thing as innocent...

:iagree: I like Clemens but was surprised he was found not guilty.

[Kerrmudgeon]

He might not have got jail time but can you imagine his legal bill over four and a half years! That's a pretty hefty fine. :willy:

[Chris Fowler]

It is in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty.:seasix:
Legally, yes...

But not every person found not guilty didn't do it.

[MrPeabody]

Legally, yes...

But not every person found not guilty didn't do it.

And not every person found guilty did do it.

[DAB]

having a poor memory should not be a crime. and if the feds come knocking, don't talk to them until you talk with your lawyer. just ask Scooter Libby.

[Iron Chef]

Give me a bit, counselor. I need to work up a good rant.

Hang on while I get a bag of Doritos.

[Burnt C6]

It will still cost the tax payers another few million before they get all the paper work finished boxed up and put away. The government legal team needs something to do. That's what the whole damn thing was all about in the first place. If they aren't up some ones ass over something small they are sitting on their asses surfing the internet. They need to prove to themselves and everyone else who is watching that they are needed. Most of us think they are a waste of time and money, but there are those who are idiots that need to see them doing something and God knows that it can’t be Terrorist because they have rights that cannot be infringed upon.

[BuckyThreadkiller]

OK, having actually read the story - he was found not guilty of lying to Congress, not being innocent of using steroids.

That makes total sense. Using steroids is illegal, gets you thrown out of baseball and makes you unelectable to the Hall of Fame. Lying to Congress means you might be President.

[lspencer534]

OK, having actually read the story - he was found not guilty of lying to Congress, not being innocent of using steroids.

That makes total sense. Using steroids is illegal, gets you thrown out of baseball and makes you unelectable to the Hall of Fame. Lying to Congress means you might be President.

Excellent analysis! BTW, what office are you running for?

[Chris Fowler]

And not every person found guilty did do it.
I said that where?

[Chris Fowler]

OK, having actually read the story - he was found not guilty of lying to Congress, not being innocent of using steroids.

That makes total sense. Using steroids is illegal, gets you thrown out of baseball and makes you unelectable to the Hall of Fame. Lying to Congress means you might be President.
The irony of an American citizen having Congress believing he lied to them is lost on Congress...

[MrPeabody]

I said that where?

You didn't. I did.

[MrPeabody]

Not guilty is not the same thing as innocent...

This is what you said.:seasix:

[CP]

I thought it was real hypocritical to bring charges for lying to Congress. Cripes, they lie to us all the time.

[Stangkiller]

While I'm sure he did it...I'm still disappointed our government wasted money on this.

[ConstantChange]

While I'm sure he did it...I'm still disappointed our government wasted money on this.


:iagree: The fact that our government gives a shit that some guy who throws a ball did or did not lie about using steroids is beyond ridiculous. He should have never been in front of Congress in the first place.

[Bill]

Hang on while I get a bag of Doritos.

Doritos in a drug trial thread. :rofl: :seasix:

[Bill]

While I'm sure he did it...I'm still disappointed our government wasted money on this.

:iagree: The fact that our government gives a shit that some guy who throws a ball did or did not lie about using steroids is beyond ridiculous. He should have never been in front of Congress in the first place.

:iagree:

[Fasglas]

It is in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty.:seasix:
:iagree: Now, maybe the experts in all things can get on with what they should have been doing...

[Kerrmudgeon]

Hmmmm....I wonder what four and a half years of this investigation has cost the American public? For what? :toetap:

[onedef92]

Big money buys big "justice."

[Fasglas]

From the very beginning:
Much ado about nothing.

[jaxgator]

Legally, yes...

But not every person found not guilty didn't do it.

:iagree: Take, for instance, OJ.