Calculus SUCKS!!!!!

[GRN ENVY]

That is all.
Calculus --- Me
:issues: X 10

[Mirroredshades]

LoL. Wait till you get to the hard stuff pilgrim.

:rofl:

[GRN ENVY]

LoL. Wait till you get to the hard stuff pilgrim.

:rofl:

Efff that, business calc is pretty hard, why I have to find the 5 th derivative of an equation with out using the short cut is beyond me

[RedLS1GTO]

...why I have to find the 5 th derivative of an equation with out using the short cut is beyond me


Because you won't carry a calculator and a reference book around with you everywhere you go.

-High school calc teacher, circa 1997


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[GRN ENVY]

I just got out of a test 15 questions I study for the past two weeks or do, went to tutoring twice a week since the beginning of the semester and I had to guess on 5 of the questions

[GRN ENVY]

Because you won't carry a calculator and a reference book around with you everywhere you go.

-High school calc teacher, circa 1997


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Calc teacher????? You're becoming my best friend, I can do the derivative short cut in my head I just had to expand the equation to match the right answer. Plus the other question on the test that seemed ipossible to solve :willy:

[RedLS1GTO]

Calc teacher????? You're becoming my best friend, I can do the derivative short cut in my head I just had to expand the equation to match the right answer. Plus the other question on the test that seemed ipossible to solve :willy:

I'm not a calc teacher myself... my post was a quote from MY calc teacher way back when.

I hated calculus, although nowhere as much as I hated Diff EQ! :ack:

[Flatbush Harry]

I just got out of a test 15 questions I study for the past two weeks or do, went to tutoring twice a week since the beginning of the semester and I had to guess on 5 of the questions

Sounds like you have a bright future in the housekeeping or food service industries.

:seasix:

Hryar

[GRN ENVY]

I'm not a calc teacher myself... my post was a quote from MY calc teacher way back when.

I hated calculus, although nowhere as much as I hated Diff EQ! :ack:

We had 2 of those on the test today, but I see what your saying. I view calculators as time savers, well at least for they are in my current and future math courses. I still have to do most of my problems by hand. Because ready for this, the numbers get either to big or to small for it to recognize

[Cybercowboy]

Calculus I, II, and III and DiffEQ were my four most favorite classes after thermodynamics. I loved working the problems. In DiffEQ I got a 100 on every test, got all the extra credit, and never missed a single homework problem. It had something to do with having a psycho Calc III teacher who finished up with Calc III sometime around mid-October and, unbeknownst to us, basically taught us the first 3/4ths of DiffEQ. Everybody in my DiffEQ class that came from his class got easy A's. Early on in that Calc III class I missed a single day and it took me a week to catch back up. The guy was a maniac. He'd throw chalk and erasers at students who got stuff wrong, and if he caught you not paying attention, oh, you'd get special homework just for you! :lol:

[Mirroredshades]

I hated calculus, although nowhere as much as I hated Diff EQ! :ack:


This.

:seasix:



Sounds like you have a bright future in the housekeeping or food service industries.

Hryar

Wordizzle, Harrahnizzle.

:)

[Cybercowboy]

I can only imagine how bastardized "business calculus" is.

I used to tutor while going to college, and I remember tutoring this one chick with her "business physics", which was non-calculus physics essentially. Talk about a joke. Hint: It ain't physics unless there's a nice chunk of calc in there somewhere. :D

But that wasn't nearly as terrible as the "humanities math" course, which was the most fcuked up math class I ever saw. It was supposed to be math for people who would otherwise never take any other math class, and was all about matrix manipulation and other oddball stuff that left everyone taking the class completely and forever confused. It was as foreign to me as Swahili. After struggling to help this one kid taking the class, I went to see the teacher of the class to have her explain WTF they were doing. She showed me a few things and I was simply stunned. She asked what the problem was and I said "That is the most backwards, overly complicated way I've ever seen such a simple problem worked." She said it was the "new way" and the wave of the future. I laughed and said "Wanna bet?" A couple of years later they ditched that textbook and went back to a more standard basic algebra class. :lol:

[GRN ENVY]

Calculus I, II, and III and DiffEQ were my four most favorite classes after thermodynamics. I loved working the problems. In DiffEQ I got a 100 on every test, got all the extra credit, and never missed a single homework problem. It had something to do with having a psycho Calc III teacher who finished up with Calc III sometime around mid-October and, unbeknownst to us, basically taught us the first 3/4ths of DiffEQ. Everybody in my DiffEQ class that came from his class got easy A's. Early on in that Calc III class I missed a single day and it took me a week to catch back up. The guy was a maniac. He'd throw chalk and erasers at students who got stuff wrong, and if he caught you not paying attention, oh, you'd get special homework just for you! :lol:

Thus far my lowest quiz grade is 95 the other 7 have been 100s and my homework has been 90-100s, the tests are a different story. I don't miss class if I don't have too.

[onedef92]

Why, yes. Yes, it does. :yesnod:

[GRN ENVY]

I can only imagine how bastardized "business calculus" is.

I used to tutor while going to college, and I remember tutoring this one chick with her "business physics", which was non-calculus physics essentially. Talk about a joke. Hint: It ain't physics unless there's a nice chunk of calc in there somewhere. :D

I was about to say you have to have a minimum of calc 1 to take physics at my university at least


We will go from find a 5th derivative to finding a minima of a function to then a cost function to the finding the concavity of another function. That test could have been 3 long problem, instead we had 15 different functions where you might as well do the all the above a d just plug your answers to the questions

[Cybercowboy]

I was about to say you have to have a minimum of calc 1 to take physics at my university at least


We will go from find a 5th derivative to finding a minima of a function to then a cost function to the finding the concavity of another function. That test could have been 3 long problem, instead we had 15 different functions where you might as well do the all the above a d just plug your answers to the questions

At UMR they did too, but that's because it's an engineering school primarily. However, I started out at MSSC (now MSSU), and they had two non-calculus physics courses. One was kind of a pre-physics course that touched upon most branches of physics in a fairly superficial way. It was a 5-hour course and didn't transfer to UMR (which sucked because I got an A.) Then there was the non-calculus physics course that was required for all students who didn't take the "real" physics courses (which I did also take at MSSC, they transferred to UMR no problem...)

When I started at MSSC I took the pre-physics course and the algebra/trig course before taking Calc I and Physics I the next semester (you could take them at the same time there.) This was because my HS SUCKED at math and physics classes. They didn't even have a HS physics class at all.

[Mirroredshades]

I can only imagine how bastardized "business calculus" is.

I used to tutor while going to college, and I remember tutoring this one chick with her "business physics", which was non-calculus physics essentially. Talk about a joke. Hint: It ain't physics unless there's a nice chunk of calc in there somewhere. :D

But that wasn't nearly as terrible as the "humanities math" course, which was the most fcuked up math class I ever saw. It was supposed to be math for people who would otherwise never take any other math class, and was all about matrix manipulation and other oddball stuff that left everyone taking the class completely and forever confused. It was as foreign to me as Swahili. After struggling to help this one kid taking the class, I went to see the teacher of the class to have her explain WTF they were doing. She showed me a few things and I was simply stunned. She asked what the problem was and I said "That is the most backwards, overly complicated way I've ever seen such a simple problem worked." She said it was the "new way" and the wave of the future. I laughed and said "Wanna bet?" A couple of years later they ditched that textbook and went back to a more standard basic algebra class. :lol:


My ex had some silly ass math class like that as well. It was Sofa King stupid that I could do the problems in my head but had no idea how to use their "logic" to get there.

:needcoffee:

[kingpin]

You think Calculus is tough.
Wait till Calculii then you are in real trouble.

[Entropy]

Math nerds. :leaving:
Are we in the presence of the king? Should I kneel?


Calculus is awesome, it's a great way to solve problems.

[Z06David]

For some reason I thought differential equations was easier than Cal I, II, III, maybe im just a psychopath

[Xshark]

During the final of Cal II, the light-bulb came on.

Cal III & Diff EQ were much easier. (still a load of work)

The light-bulb has since burned out. :(

[kingpin]

Are we in the presence of the king? Should I kneel?


Calculus is awesome, it's a great way to solve problems.




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[Burro (He/Haw)]

The world needs ditch diggers too son. Don't get discouraged. :D

[Jay13]

Calculus is awesome, it's a great way to solve problems.

Or you can make a bunch of money and hire math nerds to solve your problems for you in the unlikely event any of them happen to require calculus.
:leaving:

[RedLS1GTO]

For some reason I thought differential equations was easier than Cal I, II, III, maybe im just a psychopath

Going through Purdue, my grades actually got better as I went up in class so you might not be too far off.

I think I had a C in Calc 1, which should be easy but finished up with As in the higher Calc courses and DiffEQ (although I really didn't like them).

I have never used DiffEQ outside of a classroom, but I use some level of calculus and thermo dynamics pretty much every day in my current job (engineer working with sealed systems and refrigeration).

[Torqaholic]

I just got out of a test 15 questions I study for the past two weeks or do, went to tutoring twice a week since the beginning of the semester and I had to guess on 5 of the questions

Might help you to scan the back of the book where all the equations are written down on one page. I found that logical and easier to understand. This is what they should be teaching from IMO.

The piece meal way they teach this knowledge by using easy examples makes the subject hard to learn because many of those formulas are dependant upon each other for operation... And that is why those easy problem examples don't resemble the massive test questions where you're expected to put it all together.

[TabuIsMe]

Since I'm done with all my math requirements...

Hahahhhahaha.

[DAB]

i got my C and got the hell out of diffeq. :willy:

never used it again after graduation. if you quizzed me now, i'd get an F.

and yes, i own a nice shovel, and i know how to dig. :DAB:

[Torqaholic]

I went from Trigonometry straight into Applied Calc and was happy to get a C. It was only by the grace of God however...

Showed up in class for the final exam and sat in an empty room for about 20 minutes. Place was deserted. WTF? I spotted a janitor in the hall and asked him where everybody was... School cancelled due to snow. Most odd, it only began snowing on my way to school.

Anywho, the teacher said since we wouldn't be as ready to retake the test he'd give us the semester average if we scored below that on our test. I felt like getting up and walking out on the spot :rofl:

[NeedSpeed]

Having taught some Calc, I find that Calc is easy. Most people have trouble with the basic math that leads up to it.

[The_Dude]

I loved calculus. I don't remember a bit of it though.

[Iron Chef]

Since I'm done with all my math requirements...

Hahahhhahaha.

Don't be a weenie. :issues: :D

IC, who was done after Calc II...thank the Lord. :seasix:

[Cybercowboy]

I loved calculus. I don't remember a bit of it though.

I thought so too. But then one day I started writing down what I did remember, and found that it was slowly coming back. I was surprised at how easy and intuitive the chain rule seemed back in the day but that was the one thing I had to look up right away, totally had forgotten how it worked.

Now the various transforms and stuff we did in DiffEQ, that would take some time to get back up to speed on them again.

[CBonsall]

while i was ok with math , my son absolutely loves math. starting next semester he will begin work on a doctorate degree in math. already has his masters in industrial engineering. :dance:

[Sea Six]

0.9~ = 1




:yesnod:

[TabuIsMe]

Don't be a weenie. :issues: :D

IC, who was done after Calc II...thank the Lord. :seasix:

I failed calc 3 the first time I took it in the summer it was hell. I passed with a C 2nd time around. Seeing others suffer through math makes me feel better :)

[BuckyThreadkiller]

The only thing I know about Calculus is that its 28 points with a double word square on Words with Friends.

[Mirroredshades]

0.9~ = 1




:yesnod:



No.

[73sbVert]

Calculus I, II, and III and DiffEQ were my four most favorite classes after thermodynamics. I loved working the problems. In DiffEQ I got a 100 on every test, got all the extra credit, and never missed a single homework problem. It had something to do with having a psycho Calc III teacher who finished up with Calc III sometime around mid-October and, unbeknownst to us, basically taught us the first 3/4ths of DiffEQ. Everybody in my DiffEQ class that came from his class got easy A's. Early on in that Calc III class I missed a single day and it took me a week to catch back up. The guy was a maniac. He'd throw chalk and erasers at students who got stuff wrong, and if he caught you not paying attention, oh, you'd get special homework just for you! :lol:

You are a sick, sick man!!! I hate you!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Sea Six]

No.

:funnier:

[Flatbush Harry]

My two fondest recollections of Calculus involved the teacher:

1. As a freshman in college, I was taking Calc I my first semester. Our instructor began some proof and, about two-thirds of the way through it, wrote an expression, followed by "It is obvious that..." and started to write the next expression. He suddenly stopped, looked at the line above, shuffled his notes, thumbed through the text and, with a huff, ran out of the classroom. We all looked at each other in confusion and sat there for about three or four minutes, at which time he ran back into the room, looked at us seriously and said, "IT IS OBVIOUS THAT..." and finished the expression he had started. Much later, after completing a masters in applied math, I dug out my old notebook and discovered it was obvious that a bit of wizardry got you from one expression to the next but it sure wasn't obvious to any of us at the time.

2. Our daughter was taking AP Calculus her junior year in HS and asked me for a bit of help (which she dreaded because I'm such a pedantic SOB!). I sat down with her and began working through some epsilon-delta proof and, in disgust, she slammed down her pencil and exclaimed, "Why do I have to study this shit?". I smiled, and in reply said, "Someday you're gonna have a child who needs tutoring in this shit and then, you'll know why!". She giggled, but only a little.

I was pleased, however, in Jan. of 1973 I was able to read the original papers by Black and Scholes and Merton solving the stochastic differential equations that led to what is now termed the Black-Scholes model of option pricing theory that got Myron Scholes and Bob Merton their Nobel prizes in Econ (Fisher Black had died so he didn't get one as they're not awarded posthumously, unless you croak before the Nobel Committee hears of your passing). I was suitably humbled, however, as I realized that, though I followed the papers at the time, I could never derive that stuff myself on the best day I ever had...and I don't have too many.

:rofl:

Hyrar, former geek quant, now superannuated qwannawannabe

[Mirroredshades]

asked me for a bit of help (which she dreaded because I'm such a pedantic SOB!).



Nah ah.



I sat down with her and began working through some epsilon-delta proof and, in disgust, she slammed down her pencil and exclaimed, "Why do I have to study this shit?". I smiled, and in reply said, "Someday you're gonna have a child who needs tutoring in this shit and then, you'll know why!". She giggled, but only a little.



That's pretty funny.

:D

[boracayjohnny]

Harry being funny as usual. :lol:

My brush with math and/or death involved Statistics. The mid term of second quarter required Stats for the Business folks had everyone's head nearly explode. The PhD walks in, hands out a blank sheet of paper, and said "Write your on test". You could just see the collective hair on fire. :D

[73sbVert]

If you're going to be working with that stuff for a while and into your career, do yourself a favor and buy and learn to use the HP calcs, preferably the HP48 or 49 series calcs. Much better than the TI's IMHO. So much more versatile too.

:D

[CP]

I'm not a calc teacher myself... my post was a quote from MY calc teacher way back when.

I hated calculus, although nowhere as much as I hated Diff EQ! :ack:

Just wait until you get to PARTIAL differential equations. :rofl:

[RedLS1GTO]

Just wait until you get to PARTIAL differential equations. :rofl:

I repressed those memories.

[PLRX]

I enjoyed it in college. I rather take math than many other classes.

[boracayjohnny]

I enjoyed it in college. I rather take math than many other classes.

You like Cowboy and Red are just wrong. Sick and wrong. :D

Now give me a 15 page paper due in a couple of days with a presentation and I'll be there smiling. I'll also be early to class. :cert:

[GRN ENVY]

You like Cowboy and Red are just wrong. Sick and wrong. :D

Now give me a 15 page paper due in a couple of days with a presentation and I'll be there smiling. I'll also be early to class. :cert:

:iagree: yesterday I was given an impromptu presentation. I came into class was given an hour to research and assemble a presentation on the topic given that day by the professor. I received the highest score, was 2 or 3 points away from a perfect score. The end result was a 2 % final grade bump for the end of the year.

[boracayjohnny]

:iagree: yesterday I was given an impromptu presentation. I came into class was given an hour to research and assemble a presentation on the topic given that day by the professor. I received the highest score, was 2 or 3 points away from a perfect score. The end result was a 2 % final grade bump for the end of the year.

Now that's quick. :seasix:

My sister says I got a BS and it has nothing to do with Bachelor or Science. :D

[GRN ENVY]

Now that's quick. :seasix:

My sister says I got a BS and it has nothing to do with Bachelor or Science. :D

Yeah you're telling me, I was sweating big time. But I was fairly familiar with the topic,( coming up with the best home that had little or no carbon footprint) so that allowed me to know what to look for.

[boracayjohnny]

Yeah you're telling me, I was sweating big time. But I was fairly familiar with the topic,( coming up with the best home that had little or no carbon footprint) so that allowed me to know what to look for.

You pulled it out though. :seasix::seasix:

Some folks are good at keeping nervousness internal. You sound like one of those.

[SnowDale]

I think so much of success in advanced math classes depends on the teacher. I had a teacher in diff eq that made the light go off about all the calculus before. Same with the first semester of PDE, it just made sense. The second semester was a joke. The professor just talked about stuff that interested him, and didn't have anything to do with PDE.

[GRN ENVY]

You pulled it out though. :seasix::seasix:

Some folks are good at keeping nervousness internal. You sound like one of those.

I would say that's fairly accurate

[TabuIsMe]

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[Aflac]

i only took the math i needed for my degree.. anything past that is just inflicting unneeded pain