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PLRX
02-10-2012, 11:51pm
I removed the spare tire on my 96 Vette long time ago. The 3.91 gears on the 96 helped to reduce the drone at freeway speeds
but, last week I drove 250 miles around the east San Diego mountains and by the time I got home my head
was tingling. The Magnaflow drone was there for over three hours and Im about to purchase a Corsa Exhaust System.

I was wondering how come the Magnaflow muffler drone on the 95 is almost non-existence. The 95 still has the spare
tire on place and it has the Weather Tech rubber cargo liner and I was thinking this may be isolating the drone.

The 96s spare tire never worked, it has an air leak since I bought it and due to fact it has the C5 brake kit the OEM
spare will never work. I decided to give the Magnaflows on the 96 one last chance and I bought a GTO spare tire.
I hope once I get it installed some of the awful drone goes away and I dont have to spend $1,200.

The C4 spare tire on the left and the GTO spare tire on the right

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare2.jpg

It still in great shape with plenty of tire tread left.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare3.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare4.jpg

The C4 spare tire would go in all the way in but, it rubs on the C5 caliper.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare5.jpg

A look from the inside.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare6.jpg

Points of contact

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare7.jpg

The GTO spare tire.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare8.jpg

Plenty of clearance

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare9.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare10.jpg

I was lucky I kept the carrier. I cleaned it up and gave it a coat of undercoating. I saved all the hardware but, could not
find the carrier bolt.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare11.jpg

I may have to order a carrier bolt, once I get I receive it I will post the results of this "experiment".

For you guys with C5 brake kits, the GTO spare tire is an alternative you could consider.

The GTO tire 145/70-17 and the C4 tire 155/70-17 are expensive but, is not impossible to find. (http://www.onlinetires.com/products/vehicle/tires/bridgestone/155%252F70-17+bridgestone+temporary+spare+tracompa+110m+bsw.html)

C4fan
02-11-2012, 12:02am
Very interesting. My car didn't have a spare or jack when I bought it. My SLP exhaust has a pretty bad drone so I will be watching this one.

Taurus
02-11-2012, 12:09am
Thou shalt not use the Mighty Taurus' image in vain.....................

popo8
02-11-2012, 12:26am
I have a carrier bolt... (as well as all the other stuff from my spare tire set up) if you want it... you can HAVE it.

PLRX
02-11-2012, 12:32am
Thou shalt not use the Mighty Taurus' image in vain.....................

:D

mike100
02-11-2012, 12:52am
Where did you find that? I wasn't even aware the C5 calipers might be an issue with the orig. spare. i guess it would still get you home in a pinch, but would custom machine the fins a little lower on the caliper maybe?

Some people have chosen to travel with those for C6's without runflats.

PLRX
02-11-2012, 12:56am
Where did you find that? I wasn't even aware the C5 calipers might be an issue with the orig. spare. i guess it would still get you home in a pinch, but would custom machine the fins a little lower on the caliper maybe?

Some people have chosen to travel with those for C6's without runflats.

I thought that or a spacer. Hey I travel few thousands miles without a spare and Betty Boops 12K mile trip with the C4 spare. :rofl:

To be honest, Im trying to kill this damn drone, Im done with it.

I dont like the rectangular shape muffler tips otherwise I would buy the dynomax system few months ago.

mike100
02-11-2012, 1:12am
You could just try switching to a fairly quiet turbo muffler. The drone won't go away, but it will be a lot less.

I want to make my own pipe set as the Corsa is still too loud. Not too loud inside, but really loud behind the car since they are pretty much a straight thru system

PLRX
02-11-2012, 8:14am
The Dynomax Turbo Mufflers I had in Betty Boop from 2004-2006 were too quiet, quieter than stock and that was the reason I got rid of them. I wish they make them with round tips.

socalman
02-11-2012, 10:19am
What about using Dynamat under the cargo carpet areas? (if the spare doesn't help). I would think you could cut off the square tips and have the dual rounds welded on? Could also be you were traveling with luggage in the 95 on your cross country trips, helped hold the noise down?

RedLS1GTO
02-11-2012, 12:07pm
I can't believe I didn't snatch the spare out of my GTO before I got rid of it. :beat:

Vette Jockey
02-12-2012, 6:32pm
I removed the spare tire on my 96 Vette long time ago. The 3.91 gears on the 96 helped to reduce the drone at freeway speeds
but, last week I drove 250 miles around the east San Diego mountains and by the time I got home my head
was tingling. The Magnaflow drone was there for over three hours and Im about to purchase a Corsa Exhaust System.


It still in great shape with plenty of tire tread left.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/GTOSpare3.jpg


:lolsmile::lolsmile:

I got the whole spare that looked brand new from that Shawn, the vendor in Oceanside for I believe under a $100. I think he still has some for anyone that needs one.

mike100
02-12-2012, 9:10pm
Got my car on jacks to fix a minor oil leak. Tried the spare- not even close to working on the C5 caliper- I guess another $90 will be sent on the GTO piece.

And to think I was rolling around all this time thinking I had a good wheel... ha! The ZR-1 did look good trekking across the Mojave desert the last time I went to AZ though.

Vette Jockey
02-12-2012, 9:32pm
The ZR-1 did look good trekking across the Mojave desert the last time I went to AZ though.

:seasix: :cert:

PLRX
02-24-2012, 9:54pm
I received the carrier bolt and got busy with this project.

Got the carrier back up there, shame it looked so nice there without that crap. I was going to make
a plaque with the skull screwed to the monospring bolts.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/DSC01015.jpg

I was a bit concern about the GTO spare, its offet if bigger than the OEM tire and I thought it would hit
the fuel tank.

ALL CLEAR :seasix:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/DSC01018.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/DSC01019.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/DSC01022.jpg

I also had some heat wrap left but, not enough to do what I had in mind.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/DSC01024.jpg

This is how it looks now with the GTO spare tire. No Dana 44 visual though.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Spare%20Tire/DSC01023.jpg

Next--

Few months ago I ordered projector lenses and today I took the HID/diamond headlights off. I re-used the
HID bulbs.

They do look cool dont they? :seasix: Yes, they look cool during the day BUT, they SUCK at night. I had three
times the brightness with the other headlight lenses. I will reinstall the old ones back.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/HID/DSC01025.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/HID/DSC01027.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/HID/DSC01026.jpg

These are the worst headlights I have ever had in my driver life. DO NOT BUY.

Old Ones:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/HID/HID4.jpg


The Spare, heat wrap and the rubber mat took a bit of the drone off, I drove up the
hill and it was not like before but, it still there making his rumble.

Ch@0s
03-12-2012, 8:03pm
I cant believe i missed this. Great job, you are always full of great info and ideas. :yesnod:

mike100
03-15-2012, 10:45pm
Mine's ready. Thanks for this post making me realize the standard spare is no good for C5 brakes...Been across the desert twice...ignorance is bliss I guess.

got one from ebay, but I also found one in town for $80..I have an extra one now.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/mschrameck/Cars/gto_spare_sm_2.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/mschrameck/Cars/gto_spare_sm_3.jpg

Vette Daddy
03-15-2012, 11:38pm
I'm gonna buy one of those soon. Glad this was posted. I hadn't thought about the C5 brake issue either.

PLRX
03-15-2012, 11:53pm
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/mschrameck/Cars/gto_spare_sm_3.jpg

Cool picture Mike, reminds me of Back to the Future III

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Wilwood/Delorean.jpg

I must add that the Wilwood 6-piston caliper also clears the GTO spare.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Wilwood/DSC01097.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Wilwood/DSC01098.jpg

mike100
03-16-2012, 12:21am
^^^ How much?..the Wilwood has a lot more room to spare over the c5 conversion.

Not all C5 abutment brackets are made to the same exact location spec, so the exact caliper position will vary- this is not necessarily a bolt on deal. The type of bracket Exotic muscle sells (I'm not sure who makes it) locates the caliper outboard more than the VB&P ones. I had to trim .050 off of the caliper ribs in one spot. If i had the other brand of bracket, I wouldn't have needed to, but the VB&P brackets had a bad batch of mismachined garbage so....moral of the story is that rarely is anything bolt on.

I would prefer those wilwoods anyhow.

PLRX
03-16-2012, 12:28am
^^^ How much?..the Wilwood has a lot more room to spare over the c5 conversion.

Not all C5 abutment brackets are made to the same exact location spec, so the exact caliper position will vary- this is not necessarily a bolt on deal. The type of bracket Exotic muscle sells (I'm not sure who makes it) locates the caliper outboard more than the VB&P ones. I had to trim .050 off of the caliper ribs in one spot. If i had the other brand of bracket, I wouldn't have needed to, but the VB&P brackets had a bad batch of mismachined garbage so....moral of the story is that rarely is anything bolt on.

I would prefer those wilwoods anyhow.

VBP is garbage. Check the wilwood web page but, order thru Summit. Summit has the lowest price, free shipping direct from the manufacturer and no sales tax. My set was made to order, they only had red calipers. Took Wilwood 7 days from the day I ordered to the day it was delivered. :seasix:

Wilwood High Performance Disc Brakes - Front Brake Kits: 1996 Chevrolet Corvette C-4 w/ HD Brake Option 13" Rotor (http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitListFront.aspx?year=1996&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette&modoption=C-4%20w/%20HD%20Brake%20Option%2013%22%20Rotor)

Plenty of clearance :seasix:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/plrx/PLRX%20LT4/Wilwood/DSC01093.jpg

mike100
03-16-2012, 12:31am
Have you driven them yet?

On EDit: I still have some custom J55 13" rotors with the aluminum center hat that would look good under the A-Mold.