star trek fans (movies)

[theriver]

Aside from watching bits and pieces of the movies and watching the tv show as a kid, I wanted to know if the movies were any good. There's like 5 movies I just put into Ntflx Q. Do the movies tie together story-wise and chronologically? Worthwhile? :shots: thanx

[jaxgator]

Wut? :confused5:

[theriver]

Wut? :confused5:

the movies. IE Star Trek IV: The SEarch For Spock

shit sci fi or good stuff?

[jaxgator]

the movies. IE Star Trek IV: The SEarch For Spock

shit sci fi or good stuff?

The movies rocked! The TV series? Not so much.

[ApexOversteer]

TXJay over in CFOT posted this the other day in a thread about HBO showing a bunch of the Trek films...

Star Trek Movies - HBO - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-topic/2974258-star-trek-movies-hbo.html)

Star Trek: The Motion Picture 1979 Great Movie. I loved the story line.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan 1982 Good movie, really bad special effects

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock 1984 Not bad better effects

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home 1986 Worst ST movie ever made. Talk about a tree huggers wet dream

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier 1989 Started off really good, slipped and face planted at the end.

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country 1991 Low budget movie, but good story line.

Star Trek Generations 1994 Much bigger budget and good story line. Not a bad flick.

Star Trek: First Contact 1996 Any film featuring the Borg is off to a good start, Good movie over all.

Star Trek: Insurrection 1999 Big budget! Horrible movie. Think plastic surgery gone wrong!!

Star Trek Nemesis 2002 Not a bad movie a little to slow at times

Star Trek 2009 Great movie but the lens flare effect got old real quick

I agree with almost all of that, except the 2009 film, which I thought was very well done, and exactly what the franchise needed.

[theriver]

The movies rocked! The TV series? Not so much.

TXJay over in CFOT posted this the other day in a thread about HBO showing a bunch of the Trek films...

Star Trek Movies - HBO - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-topic/2974258-star-trek-movies-hbo.html)



I agree with almost all of that, except the 2009 film, which I thought was very well done, and exactly what the franchise needed.

thnx guys. If it has Apex seal of approval :seasix: btw if anyone wants to know anything about Godzilla (but was afraid to ask) he knows.

[ApexOversteer]

Do the movies tie together story-wise and chronologically? Worthwhile? :shots: thanx

There is a chronology, but most of the films are stand-alone. Wrath Of Khan does directly tie into Search For Spock and you should probably watch those two in the chronological order.

You will also want to watch Generations before moving into the Next Generation films, just because it is the passing of the torch.

[ApexOversteer]

thnx guys. If it has Apex seal of approval :seasix: btw if anyone wants to know anything about Godzilla (but was afraid to ask) he knows.

Be aware that my love of Godzilla films does indicate a willingness to look past schlocky effects, acting and direction to find an entertaining experience. Your mileage may vary.

An example of this would be Wrath Of Khan, where the effects are laughable at times, it still reigns as the greatest 2 hours of Star Trek ever made.

[G8rDMD]

Be aware that my love of Godzilla films does indicate a willingness to look past schlocky effects, acting and direction to find an entertaining experience. Your mileage may vary.

An example of this would be Wrath Of Khan, where the effects are laughable at times, it still reigns as the greatest 2 hours of Star Trek ever made.

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I agree, 2009 was an excellent film and I can't wait for more movies with the same actors :dance:

Also--does your love of Godzilla films include the Matthew Broderick installment...?

[Vette Jockey]

"Star Trek: First Contact 1996 Any film featuring the Borg is off to a good start, Good movie over all."

The one thing that drove me crazy about this film was all the silliness they went through to change the frequency of their energy weapons to kill the Borg. The Borg of course adapted to the changes.

The Borg could not have adusted to the frequency of the "Chicago Typewriter", a projectile weapon. I guess the movie would have ended to soon if they had unlocked the "Safety Protocols" of the Thompson Submachine Gun and blasted the Borg into oblivion. :thehandle:

[ApexOversteer]

Also--does your love of Godzilla films include the Matthew Broderick installment...?

Yes and no.

Godzilla (1998) or GINO (Godzilla In Name Only), is a film that I do appreciate and enjoy watching. As a Kaiju (Giant Monster) film it is entertaining and exciting. It follows the core principles of a Kaiju film to the letter and features a great looking monster.

What it isn't, is Godzilla. We were sold a bill of goods on that front. The film is actually much closer to being a remake of the 1953, Ray Harryhausen classic, The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms. The monster in Beast/20k is woken by a nuclear weapons test, rampages unseen, but leaving a trail of destruction and death behind it towards New York City, where it comes ashore causing much devastation, before being killed while trapped inside the Coney Island Roller Coaster. GINO even looks like the monster in Beast/20K.

Ironically, Toho's 1954 Gojira is itself a remake of the same film, with one major difference of great import. Where Beast/20K and GINO are intended to be simple escapist entertainment, it was Gojira director Ishiro Honda's intention to use a monster attack to create an allegory for the emerging weapons/technology race, while examining the psyche of a people that had been on the receiving end of the ultimate destruction that men can commit on each other.

The original Japanese cut of the film is very dark and somber, a modern requiem for the ancient ideals of Japan. It is a far stronger film in theme, tone and content than many people think.

Godzilla as a character would then spend the next 60 years and 28 films in total, tackling subject matter ranging from corrupt corporations and greed (Godzilla vs Mothra -1964) to childhood bullying (All Monsters Attack -1969) to man's treatment of the planet (Godzilla vs Hedorah -1971) to the Westernization and loss of honor in modern Japanese youth (Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All Out Attack -2001).

The original film was brought to the US, with much of the true core of the film removed and Raymond Burr pasted into the gaps in order to tell the audience what is going on, a shadow of it's true self, with the original Japanese version virtually unseen in this country until the advent of the internet and an eventual DVD release.

For SONY to make GINO, and use the Godzilla title for no other reason than name recognition, was an error in judgement. It deeply offended Toho, the Japanese fans and the small group of global fans that take the original film for what it is, a tale of horror, destruction and fear that man had begun to tread where before only God held domain.

[Vette Jockey]

For SONY to make GINO, and use the Godzilla title for no other reason than name recognition, was an error in judgement. It deeply offended Toho, the Japanese fans and the small group of global fans that take the original film for what it is, a tale of horror, destruction and fear that man had begun to tread where before only God held domain.

I went and saw it the first night it was out and was pretty disgusted since I was expecting some sembmance of the Raymond Burr Godzilla.:puke:

I do like the The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms and a lot of the genre films of that era :D

[OddBall]

2009 movie was ok
great special affects and I think they caught the spirit and "feel" of star trek pretty well.
What I didn't like is the tired old 'screwing around with time" theme. Damn, it's getting old. Blowing up Vulcan didn't take a whole lot of creative effort either.