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Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 10:22pm
Okay...TVBOT...am I wrong?
I have some very, very good friends...absolutely wonderful people, and they have the most adorable cute little 18 month old daughter. Anyway, our little gathering was breaking up this evening and they were instructing / ordering her to give people hugs good-bye, etc. The kid was not really into giving hugs or saying good-bye because she was playing with some silly kid crap on the floor. Everyone in attendance was a close friend or family member...
...but, I have a strong objection to instructing a child that he/she should hug or otherwise acknowledge an adult simply because the adult is friends with the parents or it is cute, etc. Children should be learn to treat everyone with respect, but should not feel obligated to hug or spend time with adults out of obligation. It sets a bad precedent.
Anyway, I shared my thoughts and they were not really well received. What do you think TVBOT?
Petew1971
08-26-2011, 10:24pm
After that post the County should be by to confiscate your computer any day now
TabuIsMe
08-26-2011, 10:26pm
Leave the baby alone
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 10:26pm
After that post the County should be by to confiscate your computer any day now
Note sure why that is...I am on the kid's side. :confused5:
MEANZ06
08-26-2011, 10:27pm
After that post the County should be by to confiscate your computer any day now
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
kingpin
08-26-2011, 10:27pm
I think you should sue them for putting undue stress on a child. :lol:
I don't see the big deal really, it's not like the kid knows any better right now.
Get the word precedent out of your non working life and you will feel less stressed about little things of this nature.
IMO..
Petew1971
08-26-2011, 10:28pm
Note sure why that is...I am on the kid's side. :confused5:
The cat may have walked on your keyboard and accidentally downloaded child porn
TabuIsMe
08-26-2011, 10:28pm
I think you should sue them for putting undue stress on a child. :lol:
I don't see the big deal really, it's not like the kid knows any better right now.
Get the word precedent out of your non working life and you will feel less stressed about little things of this nature.
IMO..
Indeed, where is spencer?
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 10:29pm
I think you should sue them for putting undue stress on a child. :lol:
I don't see the big deal really, it's not like the kid knows any better right now.
Get the word precedent out of your non working life and you will feel less stressed about little things of this nature.
IMO..
Really...so, y'all think that I am nuts? Okay...hmmm.
Milton Fox
08-26-2011, 10:31pm
After that post the County should be by to confiscate your computer any day now
Leave the baby alone
Hurry and go pick up a kitty somewhere! :thumbs:
kingpin
08-26-2011, 10:32pm
Really...so, y'all think that I am nuts? Okay...hmmm.
We're all nuts.
Have a scotch, or whisky or whatever helps you clear your head and think about this rationally. :D
Coming from a European family if you didn't hug and kiss your relatives when they were leaving you'd get a foot in the ass and then a smack in the head.
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 10:36pm
We're all nuts.
Have a scotch, or whisky or whatever helps you clear your head and think about this rationally. :D
Coming from a European family if you didn't hug and kiss your relatives when they were leaving you'd get a foot in the ass and then a smack in the head.
Okay...I see you point, but I would be able to appreciate it more if I did not have to look at your avatar.:D
TabuIsMe
08-26-2011, 10:38pm
Okay...I see you point, but I would be able to appreciate it more if I did not have to look at your avatar.:D
I don't think your crazy. I do think you are over analyzing the situation because you offered your opinion which was different then those around you which made you feel vulnerable :leaving:
BADRACR1
08-26-2011, 10:39pm
I never forced mine. If they wanted to, fine. If not comfortable I didn't make 'em.
kingpin
08-26-2011, 10:40pm
I don't think your crazy. I do think you are over analyzing the situation because you offered your opinion which was different then those around you which made you feel vulnerable :leaving:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Jen, you're on a role tonight!
TabuIsMe
08-26-2011, 10:42pm
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Jen, you're on a role tonight!
:D:cheers:
Fastguy
08-26-2011, 10:51pm
Your friends are forcing the child to show false affection to random adults, which is messed up. Personally, if I don't know someone that well, I certainly don't want to hug their kid so they may be creating an awkward situation for both parties.
Whoever didn't like your comments is a dirty commie and needs to see the business end of your S&W collection.
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 10:51pm
I don't think your crazy. I do think you are over analyzing the situation because you offered your opinion which was different then those around you which made you feel vulnerable :leaving:
Offering a contrary opinion does not make me feel "vulnerable"....it do it every day of the year, several times a day. It is my job. :yesnod:
That said...it appears that I am in the minority here. Maybe I am over thinking it. I am open to that...it's why I asked the question.
Fastguy
08-26-2011, 10:53pm
Offering a contrary opinion does not make me feel "vulnerable"....it do it every day of the year, several times a day. It is my job. :yesnod:
That said...it appears that I am in the minority here. Maybe I am over thinking it. I am open to that...it's why I asked the question.
Screw that hippie bullshit, I don't want to hug a kid just because the parents say I have to, and the kid probably doesn't want to hug strangers either.
kingpin
08-26-2011, 10:55pm
Screw that hippie bullshit, I don't want to hug a kid just because the parents say I have to, and the kid probably doesn't want to hug strangers either.
C'mon man. I think you need a hug!
TabuIsMe
08-26-2011, 10:55pm
Offering a contrary opinion does not make me feel "vulnerable"....it do it every day of the year, several times a day. It is my job. :yesnod:
That said...it appears that I am in the minority here. Maybe I am over thinking it. I am open to that...it's why I asked the question.
It's different when your opinion is contrary with professionals then amongst friends and family.
You are over thinking it. The baby is cute, the baby is playing with a toy. leave it alone.
Fastguy
08-26-2011, 10:57pm
C'mon man. I think you need a hug!
I'll hug you in the face with the back of my hand.
(j/k, I'd probably kick you)
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 10:57pm
Your friends are forcing the child to show false affection to random adults, which is messed up. Personally, if I don't know someone that well, I certainly don't want to hug their kid so they may be creating an awkward situation for both parties.
Whoever didn't like your comments is a dirty commie and needs to see the business end of your S&W collection.
This is possibly my favorite post...because you agree with me and mentioned S&W. :cheers:
That's exactly my point, a show of affection out of obligation to adults because they are adults / friends of the parents. Wrong in my book. It's not that the kid does not dig us. Of course she does. I remember holding this kid in the hospital before she even dried off...but a parent shout not, in a stern voice, order a kid to hug "whoever" because they are leaving the house. It just does not sit well with me. Apparently, you and I are nuts.
kingpin
08-26-2011, 11:02pm
I'll hug you in the face with the back of my hand.
(j/k, I'd probably kick you)
Is that before or after I broke the leg you were standing on when you attempted this kick. :D
This is possibly my favorite post...because you agree with me and mentioned S&W. :cheers:
That's exactly my point, a show of affection out of obligation to adults because they are adults / friends of the parents. Wrong in my book. It's not that the kid does not dig us. Of course she does. I remember holding this kid in the hospital before she even dried off...but a parent shout not, in a stern voice, order a kid to hug "whoever" because they are leaving the house. It just does not sit well with me. Apparently, you and I are nuts.
This kid is 18 months old. WTF do they know or understand. For all as they know they are hugging a life size Elmo doll.
It's like when your parents make you sing or dance or whatever you learnd in school in front of people.
I can't remember anything before I was 5years old and I doubt this kid will either.
Fastguy
08-26-2011, 11:08pm
Reminding a child to say please or thank you is basic parenting, forcing them to hug or kiss acquaintances is not. People have different memories. I remember being that age just fine, also, coming from a big Italian family I remember being asked to hug and kiss all sorts of random aunts and cousins that I didn't really know.
Feck that. If I had young kids these days, I'd be teaching them to show their "Uncle" the handle, not perfunctory affection.
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 11:22pm
Is that before or after I broke the leg you were standing on when you attempted this kick. :D
This kid is 18 months old. WTF do they know or understand. For all as they know they are hugging a life size Elmo doll.
It's like when your parents make you sing or dance or whatever you learnd in school in front of people.
I can't remember anything before I was 5years old and I doubt this kid will either.
I don't think that you really mean this. Seriously, do you think that the things that happen to children in their first 3,4, 5, years have no effect? I can remember things before I was 5 years old...and I am certain that events and my parents instructions before I was 5 years old influenced the way I handled myself going forward.
It's funny...you mentioned parents making you sing or dance in front of people...mine didn't because I objected and I forever appreciate their support. :cheers: I do not think that it is right to make kids sing / dance, etc. for people.
I think that we just disagree. That's fine.
kingpin
08-26-2011, 11:26pm
I don't think that you really mean this. Seriously, do you think that the things that happen to children in their first 3,4, 5, years have no effect? I can remember things before I was 5 years old...and I am certain that events and my parents instructions before I was 5 years old influenced the way I handled myself going forward.
It's funny...you mentioned parents making you sing or dance in front of people...mine didn't because I objected and I forever appreciate their support. :cheers: I do not think that it is right to make kids sing / dance, etc. for people.
I think that we just disagree. That's fine.
I understand what you are saying. I'm not trying to make you feel the same way I do about it. Personally I can't stand kids and push them away from me when they are near. :lol:
My stance is that I don't think it's something to get worked up about it.
There could be much worse things happening to that child. Showing a little affection(although forced) in this case won't hurt.
:cheers:
Prosecutor
08-26-2011, 11:30pm
My stance is that I don't think it's something to get worked up about it.
There could be much worse things happening to that child. Showing a little affection(although forced) in this case won't hurt.
:cheers:
You may be right...I am a grumpy bastard. Anyway...heading to bed because I am a tired grumpy bastard. Can I have a hug? C'mon Kingpin....give me a hug before I go to sleep.:seeya:
Petew1971
08-26-2011, 11:30pm
Reminding a child to say please or thank you is basic parenting, forcing them to hug or kiss acquaintances is not. People have different memories. I remember being that age just fine, also, coming from a big Italian family I remember being asked to hug and kiss all sorts of random aunts and cousins that I didn't really know.
as long as they didnt touch you where your bathing suit covers thats fine
kingpin
08-26-2011, 11:31pm
You may be right...I am a grumpy bastard. Anyway...heading to bed because I am a tired grumpy bastard. Can I have a hug? C'mon Kingpin....give me a hug before I go to sleep.:seeya:
I gave you a grouphug in the other thread because it included Jen.
Absolutely no man to man hugs.
Sorry.
:shake:
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