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Luke@tirerack
07-19-2011, 2:19pm
NCAA sanctions LSU on recruitingEmailPrintComments16ESPN.com news services
The NCAA has placed LSU's football program on probation for one year and handed it recruiting and scholarship reductions after its Committee on Infractions cited the program with major violations stemming from the recruitment of a prospective player.
The school escaped harsher penalties as a result of cooperation from its compliance office, which self-reported the recruiting violations and cooperated with investigators, the NCAA said.
The NCAA's Committee on Infractions found that a former LSU assistant coach provided the prospect with transportation and lodging during an unofficial visit to the school and used a second phone -- which he allegedly did not disclose to investigators -- to make impermissible recruiting calls. Investigators alleged the assistant knowingly committed the infractions.
A person familiar with the situation told The Associated Press that the probe centered around former receivers coach D.J. McCarthy's dealings with defensive lineman Akiem Hicks, a junior college transfer who never played for the Tigers. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the NCAA did not publicly discuss the matter before the announcement.
Nicks left the program in January 2010, while McCarthy resigned in December 2009.
The sanctions include a 10 percent reduction in official recruiting visits for football during the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years, as well as a reduction of two initial scholarships for 2011-12 and two overall scholarships for 2010-11. The scholarship reductions were self-imposed by LSU.
The former assistant was assessed a one-year show-cause penalty.
be simpler to have 2 conferences: cheaters and saints....
_Nomad_
07-19-2011, 2:29pm
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longhorn341
07-19-2011, 2:43pm
N.C.A.A. Inquiry of Auburn Isn’t Over, Exchange Reveals...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/sports/ncaafootball/ncaas-investigation-of-auburn-isnt-over-yet.html
Not so fast there aubie
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LSU self-reported.
Mistake, yes. Cheating? See Ohio State.
Mike Mercury
07-19-2011, 2:47pm
who's next
Michigan.
oh wait, they're already embarrassed enough as it is...
Burnt C6
07-19-2011, 2:48pm
WTF is Cory68? :toetap:
War Eagle ZO6
07-19-2011, 2:48pm
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kylebuck
07-19-2011, 2:49pm
Damn it
Mike Mercury
07-19-2011, 2:51pm
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TexasBulldog
07-19-2011, 2:51pm
Auburn's next...
N.C.A.A. Inquiry of Auburn Isn’t Over, Exchange Reveals...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/sports/ncaafootball/ncaas-investigation-of-auburn-isnt-over-yet.html
Not so fast there aubie
Auburn's gonna be clean re: Newton, I'll betcha $100 and you put up $50.
jaxgator
07-19-2011, 2:54pm
If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'. :D
QFT :lol:
longhorn341
07-19-2011, 2:56pm
Auburn's gonna be clean re: Newton, I'll betcha $100 and you put up $50.
Clean: nfw
Getting away with it: 50/50
BTW, when Chizik got his new contract he had a clause changed. He now gets paid even if Auburn is found to be cheating.
War Eagle ZO6
07-19-2011, 2:58pm
Auburn's gonna be clean re: Newton, I'll betcha $100 and you put up $50.
Auburn is clean on the Newton deal for sure. We may get slapped a bit about the Reed kid from La. though. The Cam investigation is still open, but it is MooSt that is being looked at.
:yesnod:
Auburn is clean on the Newton deal for sure. We may get slapped a bit about the Reed kid from La. though. The Cam investigation is still open, but it is MooSt that is being looked at.
:yesnod:
The bigger question is how did Nick Fairley pass a single college class?:rofl:
Clean: nfw
Getting away with it: 50/50
BTW, when Chizik got his new contract he had a clause changed. He now gets paid even if Auburn is found to be cheating.
The rumors were out about Newton. I bet Auburn looked at him real hard before he came in.
"Who's next"
Take your pick, Tennessee, Oregon, UNC, Auburn (even tho, as long as it's taking, I don't think they will prove anything)
carlton_fritz
07-19-2011, 4:23pm
The rumors were out about Newton. I bet Auburn looked at him real hard before he came in.
You have to to determine how much it will cost to get him.
Auburn's next...
Um, where's Will and his :blah: ? NC is in the running :D
Um, where's Will and his :blah: ? NC is in the running :D
He knows that the ACC isn't relevant in a CFB thread.:D
Corey_68
07-19-2011, 10:27pm
WTF is Cory68? :toetap:
Sorry, I'm late to the party... :(
Thanks to oversigning, LSU will not lose any scholarships..:hurray:
VatorMan
07-20-2011, 5:36am
He knows that the ACC isn't relevant in a CFB thread.:D
:iagree: :sadangel::sadangel: We suck.
:iagree: :sadangel::sadangel: We suck.
Not Virginia Tech:
Tech currently holds the nation's longest streak of 10+ win seasons at 7 and have a combined record since the 2004 season of 65-16-0
Corey_68
07-20-2011, 12:07pm
Not Virginia Tech:
Tech currently holds the nation's longest streak of 10+ win seasons at 7 and have a combined record since the 2004 season of 65-16-0
Every year they seem to be a contender...:yesnod:
LSU has the most wins in the SEC since 2000. :D
VatorMan
07-20-2011, 12:10pm
Not Virginia Tech:
Tech currently holds the nation's longest streak of 10+ win seasons at 7 and have a combined record since the 2004 season of 65-16-0
It's our records against OTHER conferences I'm talking about. Beating the other ACC teams-well, that's just a hair above beating a Big East team.
It's our records against OTHER conferences I'm talking about. Beating the other ACC teams-well, that's just a hair above beating a Big East team.
True.
Every year they seems to be a contender...:yesnod:
LSU has the mose wins in the SEC since 2000. :D
Yep.
And Les is something like 17-3 when he gets 2 or more weeks to prepare.
War Eagle ZO6
07-20-2011, 12:37pm
Every year they seems to be a contender...:yesnod:
LSU has the mose wins in the SEC since 2000. :D
Here is since 1992 and the BCS era began.
http://media.al.com/sports_impact/other/720%20SEC%20DIVISION%20CHART.pdf
good article on SEC.
SEC divisions turn 20 showing remarkable balance | al.com (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/07/sec_divisions_turn_20_with_rem.html)
BuckyThreadkiller
07-20-2011, 2:33pm
The rumors were out about Newton. I bet Auburn looked at him real hard before he came in.
Rumors? Wasn't he arrested in Florida?
kylebuck
07-20-2011, 2:41pm
Dude just needed laptop.
Why people gotta be so hard on him. :D
Cam Newton, Lame Laptop Thief | The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/college/cam-newton-lame-laptop-thief)
He had to get his CFOT fix...
kylebuck
07-20-2011, 2:48pm
Or was in desperate need of some internet porn. :lol:
doesnt have a smart phone then
RedLS1GTO
07-20-2011, 2:53pm
Mistake, yes. Cheating? See Ohio State.
tOSU players selling sh*t for tattoos.. Coach covers it up.
How exactly is that "cheating" any more than a school whose coaching staff knowingly and willingly breaks recruiting rules?
Rumors? Wasn't he arrested in Florida?
I was talking about the rumors regarding his dad and recruiting.
My guess is Auburn heard them too and probably did everything 100% by the book.
C5SilverBullet
07-20-2011, 3:00pm
tOSU players selling sh*t for tattoos.. Coach covers it up.
How exactly is that "cheating" any more than a school whose coaching staff knowingly and willingly breaks recruiting rules?
It became cheating the second ineligible players stepped on the field.
tOSU players selling sh*t for tattoos.. Coach covers it up.
How exactly is that "cheating" any more than a school whose coaching staff knowingly and willingly breaks recruiting rules?
OK, good point.
The biggest difference is a minor violation was discovered by the school and reported by the school.
Covering crap up and getting a lot of people in on it is always going to net a worse penalty.
RedLS1GTO
07-20-2011, 3:06pm
It became cheating the second ineligible players stepped on the field.
Read again. I didn't say it WASN'T cheating.
I asked how OSU covering up ineligible players was MORE cheating than blatantly illegal recruiting by a coaching staff.
kylebuck
07-20-2011, 3:07pm
Read again. I didn't say it WASN'T cheating.
I asked how OSU covering up ineligible players was MORE cheating than blatantly illegal recruiting by a coaching staff.
its differently the same...
RedLS1GTO
07-20-2011, 3:10pm
OK, good point.
The biggest difference is a minor violation was discovered by the school and reported by the school.
Covering crap up and getting a lot of people in on it is always going to net a worse penalty.
I agree. I'm not at all defending OSU coaching staff or players. They are idiots. All of them, but cheating is cheating. If any player contacted illegally stepped on the field, they were just as wrong as the OSU kids. The fact that this violation was initially committed by a member of the coaching staff who 100%, no doubt, knew that he was breaking the rules makes it every bit as bad in my opinion.
Also, from the article:
its Committee on Infractions cited the program with major violations stemming from the recruitment of a prospective player.
NINJA EDIT: I can't read. Just saw the self-reported part. :slap:
I agree. I'm not at all defending OSU coaching staff or players. They are idiots. All of them, but cheating is cheating. If any player contacted illegally stepped on the field, they were just as wrong as the OSU kids.
Also, from the article:
Did they self report it? I'm not familiar with it, but it looks to me like they were found out, rather than self reported.
I'm pretty sure they self-reported, but not a 100%. Let me check the local stuff.
Yeah they did in 2010:
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2010/12/lsu_self-imposes_recruitingm_s.html
If they called it major, that's fine. Just looking at the penalty, I didn't think it was that a big of deal. Generally, the NCAA will come down harder if they see/think loss of institutional control.
RedLS1GTO
07-20-2011, 3:34pm
I'm pretty sure they self-reported, but not a 100%. Let me check the local stuff.
Yeah they did in 2010:
LSU self-imposes recruiting, scholarship restrictions on football program | NOLA.com (http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2010/12/lsu_self-imposes_recruitingm_s.html)
If they called it major, that's fine. Just looking at the penalty, I didn't think it was that a big of deal. Generally, the NCAA will come down harder if they see/think loss of institutional control.
You beat my ninja edit attempt. I did see right after I posted that they self reported.
I agree that a coach covering up violations like tOSU is worthy of a HUGE penalty. My only point, which you seem to at least partially accept was that despite the level of dirtbaggery from Tressel, the actual "cheating" aspect of it wasn't necessarily worse in the case of tOSU.
Long story short... they are all cheating, lying, idiots.
:cheers:
You beat my ninja edit attempt. I did see right after I posted that they self reported.
I agree that a coach covering up violations like tOSU is worthy of a HUGE penalty. My only point, which you seem to at least partially accept was that despite the level of dirtbaggery from Tressel, the actual "cheating" aspect of it wasn't necessarily worse in the case of tOSU.
Long story short... they are all cheating, lying, idiots.
:cheers:
Yeah, I get that and agree. I probably could've rephrased my post b/c they both cheated, just different violation levels.
I'm never too harsh of a judge b/c we'll all take a turn in the barrel.:D
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