What is the strategy in the Casey Anthony trial?

[lspencer534]

Testimony had ended, closing arguments begin Sunday at 8:30 a.m. Casey did not take the stand. WTF? It's already been shown that she's a chronic liar, and now there's no testimony to back up her claim that her father abused he. BTW, that was clever to claim her dad abused her; that kind of evidence usually isn't admissable, but she claimed that was the reason for some of her statements and for her aberrant conduct--the years of sexual abuse forced her to tell lies, keep secrets, and to cover up the accidental drowing of her daughter in the swimming pool.

One thing I've learned is that if you tell the jury something in opening statements, you'd damned well better prove it. She didn't prove anyone abused her. But, the burden of proof is on the prosecution; it did not prove how the child died--the medical examiner could not determine the cause of death because her remains were skeletonized by the time they were discovered.

Does everyone agree that Casey Anthony is guilty of...something? Is it murder though? What do you think is going to be the verdict?

[HeatherO]

I think she killed her kid. she was a partier and the kid was an inconvenience :(

I also think the defense was grasping at straws to save her ass...she's too immature to admit
what she did and face the consequences...

[MrPeabody]

All they need to do is raise enough doubt in one juror's mind to get a hung jury. I think this has been their only strategy from the start.

[LisaJohn]

I think the whole family is nutty and she is guilty. Kind of funny how the drowning in a swimming pool story came up after she was in jail with a woman for her kid drowning in a swimming pool.

[Gina]

I don't think they proved 1st degree murder. I think they will compromise on a lesser charge.

I think the defense was screwed and was desperate for anything to take attention away from all of the evidence and testimony against her. She pretty much hung herself with her conduct and lying.

[6spdC6]

All they need to do is raise enough doubt in one juror's mind to get a hung jury. I think this has been their only strategy from the start.

:iagree:


Red Herrings being dragged all over that courtroom. Their hoping to find a couple of jurors as dumb as the crew that made up the OJ trial!:rolleyes:

[mrvette]

Murder ONE, life in prison....


CASE CLOSED.....

[DAB]

yes, she's a bad mom and a liar.

but, the state has not proved that a murder took place. cause of death: undetermined. manner of death: homocide, based on where body was found.

that's not proof of a murder. who did it? not proved.

vote: not guilty.

it's the burden of the state to prove their case, not vice-versa.

[mrvette]

:iagree:


Red Herrings being dragged all over that courtroom. Their hoping to find a couple of jurors as dumb as the crew that made up the OJ trial!:rolleyes:

Lawyers like that who KNOW their client is guilty as shit, and STILL come up with all the specious CRAP to get the jury confused.....I think are immoral as hell, liars, thieves themselves....

:seeya:

[lspencer534]

Lawyers like that who KNOW their client is guilty as shit, and STILL come up with all the specious CRAP to get the jury confused.....I think are immoral as hell, liars, thieves themselves....

:seeya:

Beg to differ. That's why we don't ask them if they're guilty. Did you ever see an old movie called "The Lawyer"? A man is accused of murder, and the jury found him not guilty. The man then asked his lawyer, "I suppose you want to know if I did it or not."

"I don't give a damn," the lawyer said.

[NB2K]

Haven't watched :30 of it...

[VatorMan]

I think there is something wrong about defending someone you KNOW did it. I thought the deal behind justice is the truth.

Apparently it's just strategic planning.

[GRN ENVY]

I can't stand this trial, this is all that is on TV anymore in Orlando for the past 2 years can't even get the weather without hearing about it. I don't think a single news cast has gone on without the mention of CRAZY ANTHONY. Once the trial ends they will still go on about for months to come. Who cares its another murder trial. Yes its said for the little girl but that is as far as it should have gone. Not non-stop coverage since 2008.

I need a beer:beer:

[jaxgator]

Kind of funny how the drowning in a swimming pool story came up after she was in jail with a woman for her kid drowning in a swimming pool.

:nono: Not proven.

yes, she's a bad mom and a liar.

but, the state has not proved that a murder took place. cause of death: undetermined. manner of death: homocide, based on where body was found.

that's not proof of a murder. who did it? not proved.

vote: not guilty.

it's the burden of the state to prove their case, not vice-versa.

:iagree: I'm in the same boat as you Doug. She's a crazy liar but that's about it. I have seen bits and pieces of the trial and from what I have seen the state has not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is guilty.

[lspencer534]

I think there is something wrong about defending someone you KNOW did it. I thought the deal behind justice is the truth.

Apparently it's just strategic planning.

Let me see if I can explain it: The American system of criminal justice is an adversarial system. That means that the State (or the Feds) has to prove each and every element of the crime the accused is charged with beyond a reasonable doubt, because a person is premed to be innocent until proven guilty. The accused has the right, under our Constitution, to challenge each and every accusation made against the accused. There is no presumption of anything in favor of the prosecution.

Every killing of a person by another person is a homocide. But every homicide is not a murder. Intent to kill is never presumed; it must be proved, just like the fact that a killing occurred must be proved. Here there is no proof that Caylee was even killed by someone, much less murdered. We all may "know" that Casey Anthony did it, but our law requires that it be proved by the prosecution. Remember the rationale: It's better for a thousand guilty person to go free than to wrongfully convict one innocent person.

It makes no difference, under our laws, whether the accused's lawyer "knows" he's defending a guilty person. Guilty of what? Murder? First or second degree? Manslaughter? The lawyer's job is to make sure that the prosecution proves every element of the exact crime that is charged and to find any weaknesses in the prosecution's case that may cast a reasonable doubt of guilt.

It may not sound or even be "right" or "wrong", but that is our system. It's not perfect, but it's still the best in the world.

[lspencer534]

One other thing: Remember the stereotypical beady-eyed criminal? ("I can tell by his beady eyes that he did it.") Casey Anthony has those big, crazy eyes. If she were eating dinner near me, I'd be sure she had no knife, preferably just a spoon. I think she's nuts. I think she killed her kid. I think they didn't prove it.

[jaxgator]

Rememberr the rationale: It's better for a thousand guilty person to go free than to wrongfully convict one innocent person.

And that's why I take issue with the death penalty in some cases. Sure, when it is absolutely clear that someone committed premeditated murder and that person receives the death penalty, I have no problems. However, take a look at this...

Since 1973, over 130 people have been released from death row with evidence of their innocence. (Staff Report, House Judiciary Subcommittee on Civil & Constitutional Rights, Oct. 1993, with updates from DPIC). From 1973-1999, there was an average of 3.1 exonerations per year. From 2000-2007, there has been an average of 5 exonerations per year.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf

I damn sure wouldn't want to be put to death for something I didn't do. Unfortunately, I am sure there are several unlucky bastards that have been.

[TabuIsMe]

I think she killed her kid. she was a partier and the kid was an inconvenience :(

I also think the defense was grasping at straws to save her ass...she's too immature to admit
what she did and face the consequences...

:iagree:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

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But would you hit it???

[MrPeabody]

:iagree:


Red Herrings being dragged all over that courtroom. Their hoping to find a couple of jurors as dumb as the crew that made up the OJ trial!:rolleyes:

The prosecution was the dumb crew at the OJ trial.:yesnod:

[mrvette]

And that's why I take issue with the death penalty in some cases. Sure, when it is absolutely clear that someone committed premeditated murder and that person receives the death penalty, I have no problems. However, take a look at this...



I damn sure wouldn't want to be put to death for something I didn't do. Unfortunately, I am sure there are several unlucky bastards that have been.

I used to work for a security systems company, my last full time job in the electronics industry, it was the early/mid 80's and one of my little details was to flip across country to all sorts of neat spots, the least of which was ATTICA, WALPOLE, LORTON, N. Mex all the MAX wards, inside with the inmates as them and their visitors were screened by your high sense walk through metal detectors...I used to buy into that crap from my daze in business law at Univ/Md. 20 years earlier....got news, ..I flipped on that in a nanosecond....I seriously think the inmates need be shot and burned.....tell the lawyers and family later.....clean the streets.....

tired of all the OJ excuses, I can freely accept a 5% error rate, life ain't perfect.....

I think that lawyers and worse yet JUDGES that aid and abet crime through specious legal thought, are guilty as the crooks.....

I had some lawyer personal friends up north in the DC region...and even they said some judges were crazier than a loon....WTF?? get his ass OFF the damn bench then.....

I know of two crooked judges on the BK bench of Fed, Dist Ct. here in Jax....
Jerry Funk, and George L. Proctor.....both are crooks, get paid off like mad....

like I said, my personal eyes have shown me what goes on....it's not about justice one damn bit, it's about making a crooked living for lawyers and judges....

:beat::beat:

my daughter's boyfriend/husband?? is going to UMBC law school, and he is a super liberal, he should find easy living being a disingenuous liar.....

:beat::seeya::leaving:

[69camfrk]

There were so many lies told during that testimony I don't think there is any way they will get a 1st degree murder charge. Hell, everyone had a different story. No way did they prove premeditated murder. I agree with an earlier post that talks about the jury being confused so there is no way they can get a majority on a murder charge. Hell, I'm confused by what little I saw on the news highlights of it. I would imagine she will get something like manslaughter or negligent homicide. Either way, she could get off with time served. Will justice be served...I doubt it. However, I wasn't on the jury and it's not my place to judge, not knowing the facts if in fact any were ever presented.

[LATB]

What is the strategy in the Casey Anthony trial?


simple

muddy the waters with bull shit...create enough doubt in one jurors mind to keep her out of the chair.

everyone knows this woman is guilty...the defence team's job all along was/is to save her life.

I don't believe the trial is about her guilt...I believe the trial is about the death penalty. and this story is far from over.

period.

[ConstantChange]

Haven't watched :30 of it...

:iagree:

[Uncle Pervey]

I think she killed her kid. she was a partier and the kid was an inconvenience :(

I also think the defense was grasping at straws to save her ass...she's too immature to admit
what she did and face the consequences...

I agree, but I think it was an accident. I think she knocked the kid out with Chloroform and overdosed her and she died.
She is a worthless piece of shit that should spend the rest of her sorry ass life at hard labor. I'm not talking about prison, I'm taking about cruel and unusual punishment of the kind the Romans had. Put her to work in a whore house for soldiers, or put her in a mine and work her to until she drops and the beat her until she gets back up. :yesnod:

[LATB]

I agree, but I think it was an accident. I think she knocked the kid out with Chloroform and overdosed her and she died.
She is a worthless piece of shit that should spend the rest of her sorry ass life at hard labor. I'm not talking about prison, I'm taking about cruel and unusual punishment of the kind the Romans had. Put her to work in a whore house for soldiers, or put her in a mine and work her to until she drops and the beat her until she gets back up. :yesnod:

are you effin kidding?

in political correct AmeriKa?

even if her sentence was death...she would probably sit in prison for 20 years before anyone had the balls to off the big tit brunette bitch.

[Uncle Pervey]

are you effin kidding?

in political correct AmeriKa?

even if her sentence was death...she would probably sit in prison for 20 years before anyone had the balls to off the big tit brunette bitch.

I personally think (more like hope) that someday we'll take things back to the way they should be and provide justice for the victims and punishment for the evil. :leaving:

[HeatherO]

I agree, but I think it was an accident. I think she knocked the kid out with Chloroform and overdosed her and she died.
She is a worthless piece of shit that should spend the rest of her sorry ass life at hard labor. I'm not talking about prison, I'm taking about cruel and unusual punishment of the kind the Romans had. Put her to work in a whore house for soldiers, or put her in a mine and work her to until she drops and the beat her until she gets back up. :yesnod:

are ya kidding me?? :lol: she would freakin love that....

[LATB]

I personally think (more like hope) that someday we'll take things back to the way they should be and provide justice for the victims and punishment for the evil. :leaving:

It will never happen Uncle...as long as there is political correctness.

25 years ago...she probably would be toast.

50 years ago...she would definitely be toast.

100 years ago...she would have already swung from the gallows.

[mrvette]

It will never happen Uncle...as long as there is political correctness.

25 years ago...she probably would be toast.

50 years ago...she would definitely be toast.

100 years ago...she would have already swung from the gallows.

:hurray: We maybe should revert back to that time.....:seeya: bitch.....

[LATB]

:hurray: We maybe should revert back to that time.....:seeya: bitch.....

won't happen...too many "progressive" bleeding hearts.

[jaxgator]

I can freely accept a 5% error rate, life ain't perfect.....

Really? So, you wouldn't have a problem if you or one of your loved ones got caught up in that 5% error rate and was executed even though you/they were totally innocent?