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onedef92
06-30-2011, 6:48am
Diet soda may be making you fat

Think you're making a healthier choice when you reach for diet soda instead of a sugary soft drink? Think again.

Diet soft drinks may have minimal calories, but they can still have a major impact on your waistline, according to two studies presented at a meeting of the American Diabetes Association in San Diego.

Researchers at the Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio tracked 474 people, all 65 to 74 years old, for nearly a decade, measuring the subjects' height, weight, waist circumference, and diet soft drink intake every 3.6 years.

The waists of those who drank diet soft drinks grew 70 percent more than those who avoided the artificially sweetened stuff; people who drank two or more servings a day had waist-circumference increases that were five times larger than non-diet-soda consumers.

The findings are in line with those of a 2005 study, also conducted by researchers at the Texas Health Science Center, in which the chance of becoming overweight or obese increased with every diet soda consumed.

“On average, for each diet soft drink our participants drank per day, they were 65 percent more likely to become overweight during the next seven to eight years, and 41 percent more likely to become obese,” said Sharon Fowler, who was a faculty associate in the division of clinical epidemiology in the Health Science Center’s department of medicine at the time.

But how does something with no calories cause weight gain? Turns out that even if our taste buds can't tell the difference between real and fake sugar, our brains can. Another study, also presented at the American Diabetes Association meeting on Sunday, found that after three months of eating food laced with aspartame (which is also found in many diet soft drinks), mice had higher blood sugar levels than rodents who ate regular food. According to Fowler, who worked on all three studies and is now a researcher at UT Health Science Center at San Diego, the aspartame could trigger the appetite but do nothing to satisfy it. That could interfere with your body's ability to tell when you're full—and could lead you to eat more in general.

It happens in humans, too. A 2008 study found that women who drank water sweetened with sugar and water sweetened with Splenda couldn't taste a difference, but functional MRI scans showed that their brains' reward center responded to real sugar "more completely" than it did to the artificial sweetener.

"Your senses tell you there's something sweet that you're tasting, but your brain tells you, 'actually, it's not as much of a reward as I expected,'" Dr. Martin P. Paulus, a professor of psychiatry at the University of California San Diego and one of the authors of the study, told the Huffington Post. So you chase that no-calorie soda with something more caloric, like a salty snack. The sweet taste could also trigger your body to produce insulin, which blocks your ability to burn fat.

Aside from the health problems that go along with a widening waistline, diet soft drinks have also been linked to an increase in diabetes, heart attack, and stroke. One study of more than 2,500 people found that those "who drank diet soda daily had a 61 percent increased risk of cardiovascular events compared to those who drank no soda, even when accounting for smoking, physical activity, alcohol consumption and calories consumed per day," ABC News reported in February. And a 2008 University of Minnesota study of nearly 10,000 adults ages 45 to 64 found that drinking a single can of diet soda a day led to a 34 percent higher risk of developing metabolic syndrome, a collection of health problems that includes high blood sugar, high cholesterol, and high levels of belly fat.

"Drinking a reasonable amount of diet soda a day, such as a can or two, isn't likely to hurt you," writes Katherine Zeratsky, a nutritionist at the Mayo Clinic. "The artificial sweeteners and other chemicals currently used in diet soda are safe for most people, and there's no credible evidence that these ingredients cause cancer."

"Some types of diet soda are even fortified with vitamins and minerals," she added. "But diet soda isn't a health drink or a silver bullet for weight loss."

onedef92
06-30-2011, 8:37am
Feck it. Just drink fruit-flavored sparkling water. It's got all the fizz of soft drinks but none of the sugar, calories, or caffeine. Low sodium, too.

Chris Fowler
06-30-2011, 8:44am
Feck it. Just drink fruit-flavored sparkling water. It's got all the fizz of soft drinks but none of the taste, sugar, calories, or caffeine. Low sodium, too.
:iagree:

:leaving:

Montehall
06-30-2011, 8:45am
or water.

kylebuck
06-30-2011, 8:46am
or water.

:iagree:

onedef92
06-30-2011, 8:47am
or water.

Some foods demand carbonation to aid digestion like Mexican, Chinese, Indian, etc... If you don't, you risk gettin' either indigestion, heartburn or the fluts like a mofo. :flush:

truckindj
06-30-2011, 9:10am
or sprite zero

onedef92
06-30-2011, 9:11am
or sprite zero

But it's still artificially sweetened, which gets you back in the center of the debate.

Uncle Pervey
06-30-2011, 9:17am
Feck it. Just drink fruit-flavored sparkling water. It's got all the fizz of soft drinks but none of the sugar, calories, or caffeine. Low sodium, too.

OD, check the labels on that flavored sparkling water, I bet it is using some sort or artificial sweetner along with the fruit flavor. :yesnod: I looked online and I could not find anything that even vaguely looked like a nutrition information label for any of the Fruit Flavored Sparkling waters. Maybe you'll have better luck.

onedef92
06-30-2011, 9:23am
OD, check the labels on that flavored sparkling water, I bet it is using some sort or artificial sweetner along with the fruit flavor. :yesnod: I looked online and I could not find anything that even vaguely looked like a nutrition information label for any of the Fruit Flavored Sparkling waters. Maybe you'll have better luck.

There's a brand that Kroger carries (can't think of the name now) that claims to use all-natural fruit for flavor. I'll check the label when I get home.

PortDawg
06-30-2011, 9:27am
or water.

Fish piss in it...

Uncle Pervey
06-30-2011, 9:29am
or water.

Fish piss in it...

The also fvck in it... drink water and you're drinking fish jizz... :yesnod:

Datawiz
06-30-2011, 9:30am
IB4AnyoneSaysAnythingAboutDataWiz

:leaving:

Meeko87
06-30-2011, 9:39am
The also fvck in it... drink water and you're drinking fish jizz... :yesnod:

Hence why I stopped drinking water, when I want my daily value of fish jizz I go straight to the source and suck off a blue gil.

ConstantChange
06-30-2011, 10:53am
<~~~ Not a fattie and I drink diet Pepsi like it's going out of style.

Yerf Dog
06-30-2011, 10:58am
Feck it. Just drink fruit-flavored sparkling water.

What brand name?

DukeAllen
06-30-2011, 11:03am
I can't stand the taste of diet anything...but the best part of all this is so many fat people I've known who guzzle the stuff and wonder why they don't lose weight, all while stuffing every kind of candy and snack in the store down their throats.:lol:

nhlgopens
06-30-2011, 11:23am
I prefer unsweetened ice tea. :thumbs:

onedef92
06-30-2011, 11:26am
What brand name?


Well, let's see.

There's Sam's Choice (Wal-Mart), Clearly Canadian, Crystal Geyser, LaCroix, Syfo, Voss Water, San Pellegrino, Gerolsteiner, Hiball, Izze, Lorina, R.W. Knudsen and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.... :cheers:

syf350
06-30-2011, 11:30am
IB4AnyoneSaysAnythingAboutDataWiz

:leaving:

exactly why i came in...beat me to it:cheers:

Ms.Gem
06-30-2011, 11:40am
IB4AnyoneSaysAnythingAboutDataWiz

:leaving:

:rofl:As soon as I started reading I thought of you.:rofl::leaving:

onedef92
06-30-2011, 12:03pm
OD, check the labels on that flavored sparkling water, I bet it is using some sort or artificial sweetner along with the fruit flavor. :yesnod: I looked online and I could not find anything that even vaguely looked like a nutrition information label for any of the Fruit Flavored Sparkling waters. Maybe you'll have better luck.

I'm looking at the nutrition label on the LaCroix Sparkling Water can right now and it lists only carbonated water and natural flavors. No calories, no artificial sweeteners.

Tastes like dishwater, I admit, until you get used to weaning off soft drinks, but I've come around. :shots:

C5SilverBullet
06-30-2011, 12:14pm
I had a Dr friend of mine tell me that a few years ago.

TabuIsMe
06-30-2011, 12:21pm
Feck it. Just drink fruit-flavored sparkling water. It's got all the fizz of soft drinks but none of the sugar, calories, or caffeine. Low sodium, too.

The real reason people gain weight while drinking diet sodas is mostly psychological. They figure if they cut from soda to diet soda they can indulge in other areas, and I am pretty sure the soda itself will give somebody more of an appetite then usual.

Water is king, but diet soda is a nice treat :)

MattW
06-30-2011, 1:00pm
The real reason people gain weight while drinking diet sodas is mostly psychological. They figure if they cut from soda to diet soda they can indulge in other areas, and I am pretty sure the soda itself will give somebody more of an appetite then usual.


I drink three 20-ouncers a day, usually. Diet Mountain Dew, Diet Sun Drop.

I think you're dead right; most people think they're "being good" drinking no-calorie or very-low-calorie flavored drinks. So they eat more than they should.

Doc Atkins wrote, drink only water and unsweetened drinks like brewed teas and coffees, if you can; he wrote to avoid aspartame and sodium saccharine and choose sucralose (splenda) if you can't cut "sweet" drinks.

There's a chance aspartame (Nutrasweet) is a metabolic-rate inhibitor; studies are conflicting. Doc Atkins wrote, as long as you're trying to lose weight, why chance drinking something which might slow down your metabolism?

I've got a blue-can, zero carb Rock Star on my desk right now. Love the stuff.

I've cut 31 pounds in the last 6 months with a pretty strict low-carbohydrate regimen. I eat about 50 grams of carbs a day. "Normal" US citizens tend to eat about 300 grams a day.

Notice the article speaks explicitly to insulin's effect on fat storage versus fat utilization? Yep...

DropTheTop
06-30-2011, 1:23pm
I'm pretty sure it was the beer and Doritos that made me fat . . . not a few diet Pepsis! :lol:

TabuIsMe
06-30-2011, 2:22pm
I drink three 20-ouncers a day, usually. Diet Mountain Dew, Diet Sun Drop.

I think you're dead right; most people think they're "being good" drinking no-calorie or very-low-calorie flavored drinks. So they eat more than they should.

Doc Atkins wrote, drink only water and unsweetened drinks like brewed teas and coffees, if you can; he wrote to avoid aspartame and sodium saccharine and choose sucralose (splenda) if you can't cut "sweet" drinks.

There's a chance aspartame (Nutrasweet) is a metabolic-rate inhibitor; studies are conflicting. Doc Atkins wrote, as long as you're trying to lose weight, why chance drinking something which might slow down your metabolism?

I've got a blue-can, zero carb Rock Star on my desk right now. Love the stuff.

I've cut 31 pounds in the last 6 months with a pretty strict low-carbohydrate regimen. I eat about 50 grams of carbs a day. "Normal" US citizens tend to eat about 300 grams a day.

Notice the article speaks explicitly to insulin's effect on fat storage versus fat utilization? Yep...
Congratulations on the loss, low carb is the way to go.

I googled more into this out of curiousity and found: "artificial sweeteners suppress serotonin, causing an increased craving for sweets and rob
your body of chromium, thus upsetting the insulin resistance mechanisms, which cause your pancreas to increase insulin production and in turn causes increased fat storage."
What would be interesting to know how long this lasts and if a person were to drink the soda with no meal, if it would be just as harmful.

SnikPlosskin
06-30-2011, 8:05pm
I drink three 20-ouncers a day, usually. Diet Mountain Dew, Diet Sun Drop.

I think you're dead right; most people think they're "being good" drinking no-calorie or very-low-calorie flavored drinks. So they eat more than they should.

Doc Atkins wrote, drink only water and unsweetened drinks like brewed teas and coffees, if you can; he wrote to avoid aspartame and sodium saccharine and choose sucralose (splenda) if you can't cut "sweet" drinks.

There's a chance aspartame (Nutrasweet) is a metabolic-rate inhibitor; studies are conflicting. Doc Atkins wrote, as long as you're trying to lose weight, why chance drinking something which might slow down your metabolism?

I've got a blue-can, zero carb Rock Star on my desk right now. Love the stuff.

I've cut 31 pounds in the last 6 months with a pretty strict low-carbohydrate regimen. I eat about 50 grams of carbs a day. "Normal" US citizens tend to eat about 300 grams a day.

Notice the article speaks explicitly to insulin's effect on fat storage versus fat utilization? Yep...

Would you agree that people need to read the book to get the diet right. People who diss Atkins have not read the book(s).

Iron Chef
06-30-2011, 9:30pm
I'm trying to cut out soda altogether. Like TabuIsMe said, a diet soda is a nice treat (nice to see you back Tabu). But I'm sticking mostly to water and Iced Tea...herbal after about 6PM so it doesn't affect my sleep.

LATB
06-30-2011, 9:48pm
coffee...water...iced tea...beer

usually in that order as my day progresses :beer:

TabuIsMe
06-30-2011, 9:52pm
I'm trying to cut out soda altogether. Like TabuIsMe said, a diet soda is a nice treat (nice to see you back Tabu). But I'm sticking mostly to water and Iced Tea...herbal after about 6PM so it doesn't affect my sleep.

nice to be back :seeya:

MattW
07-01-2011, 12:18am
Would you agree that people need to read the book to get the diet right. People who diss Atkins have not read the book(s).

Yes. People who haven't read the book, are the idiots who perpetuate the "I eat nothing but steak, bacon, cheese and eggs" garbage that gives the uninformed the idea ATK isn't heart-healthy.

Scissors
07-01-2011, 4:36am
Researchers at the Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio tracked 474 people, all 65 to 74 years old, for nearly a decade, measuring the subjects' height, weight, waist circumference, and diet soft drink intake every 3.6 years.


Unless they also tracked food consumption, that study was an utter waste of time and money.

bryanZ06
07-01-2011, 8:05am
I'm trying to cut out soda altogether. Like TabuIsMe said, a diet soda is a nice treat (nice to see you back Tabu). But I'm sticking mostly to water and Iced Tea...herbal after about 6PM so it doesn't affect my sleep.

It's hard to do at first, but once you've kicked the soda habit it's easy to stick with. I quit drinking them about 6 years ago. Even Gatorade (which I used to love) tastes too sweet for me now.