View Full Version : PSA: Business people with Gmail/Yahoo accounts
Get a real email account.
Or get a real job.
bsmith
06-06-2011, 12:26pm
I like some of the email addresses people put on their resume. :crazy:
AU Eagle
06-06-2011, 12:31pm
Get a real email account.
Or get a real job.
Such as?
Not sure what is wrong with
[email protected]
ConstantChange
06-06-2011, 12:36pm
Such as?
Not sure what is wrong with
[email protected]
If you work for Yahoo!, that email is fine. If you're working for another company, your email should be
[email protected].
We're talking work related email, not personal.
Omega Man
06-06-2011, 12:40pm
I like some of the email addresses people put on their resume. :crazy:
Like ;
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Yes, all are people I know :rofl:
It smacks of non-professionalism.
"Hey, I want to be your architect/accountant/fluffer but I can't be bothered to stand up a real business account!"
prospero63
06-06-2011, 1:16pm
It smacks of non-professionalism.
"Hey, I want to be your architect/accountant/fluffer but I can't be bothered to stand up a real business account!"
That's one way to look at it. The other way is "I understand where to invest my money in technology, and it's asinine for me to spend money on technology infrastructure that doesn't provide a ROI. Technology done properly isn't a cost center, it's a driver and facilitator for revenue". Note, this doesn't apply for accounts like
[email protected]. Unless it's run by supermodel stripper accountants. Then it's totally acceptable.
That's one way to look at it. The other way is "I understand where to invest my money in technology, and it's asinine for me to spend money on technology infrastructure that doesn't provide a ROI. Technology done properly isn't a cost center, it's a driver and facilitator for revenue". Note, this doesn't apply for accounts like
[email protected]. Unless it's run by supermodel stripper accountants. Then it's totally acceptable.
Gmail and others will "front" your MX account for a small fee, and therefore make you look like you know what the hell you're doing in the business world.
prospero63
06-06-2011, 1:26pm
Gmail and others will "front" your MX account for a small fee, and therefore make you look like you know what the hell you're doing in the business world.
I realize that. I'm just presenting another perspective. Granted, I'm presenting it to the same group of people that hate anything that's not white, republican and with a small penis, but made up for with a sports car to make them feel like thier life isn't as bad as it probably is, so I don't really expect it to go over well. :cheers:
prospero63
06-06-2011, 1:29pm
Gmail and others will "front" your MX account for a small fee, and therefore make you look like you know what the hell you're doing in the business world.
BTW, gmail for work runs $50 a year per account. Some folks may consider that a small fee. Some may not. Guess it all depends on which perspective you have. :cheers:
BTW, gmail for work runs $50 a year per account. Some folks may consider that a small fee. Some may not. Guess it all depends on which perspective you have. :cheers:
Nope, for up to 10 accounts, it's free. :thumbs: I would hazard a guess that most of those using the @gmail etc. are small businesses that would qualify for the 10 free ones.
BTW, sorry to hear you have a small penis. :(
Joecooool
06-06-2011, 1:35pm
I've had a hotmail account for over ten years because it was easier to check when overseas.
prospero63
06-06-2011, 1:37pm
Nope, for up to 10 accounts, it's free. :thumbs: I would hazard a guess that most of those using the @gmail etc. are small businesses that would qualify for the 10 free ones.
Business online messaging and collaboration applications ? Google Apps (http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/features.html)
:confused5:
BTW, sorry to hear you have a small penis. :(
Don't be, I have a foot long tongue.
C5SilverBullet
06-06-2011, 1:38pm
Nope, for up to 10 accounts, it's free. :thumbs: I would hazard a guess that most of those using the @gmail etc. are small businesses that would qualify for the 10 free ones.
BTW, sorry to hear you have a small penis. :(
According to their site, it is $5/mo per user.
prospero63
06-06-2011, 1:39pm
According to their site, it is $5/mo per user.
And they knock off $10 if you do the annual thing. Now, if you have volume (i.e. you are moving 1000 Exchange users to Gmail) then you get all kinds of crazy price breaks, but that's not really what we are talking about here.
Business online messaging and collaboration applications ? Google Apps (http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/features.html)
:confused5:
Don't be, I have a foot long tongue.
ep...my bad, clicked on just the Google apps which doesn't include the email hosting. Still...cheap for a small business regardless, and it makes you look all grown up. And...moving email to the cloud is the way it's headed anyway, so you'd be ahead of the curve.
Sweet, so you can clean the back of your head. Betcha the cats are envious, they have to use their paws.
ConstantChange
06-06-2011, 1:59pm
BTW, gmail for work runs $50 a year per account. Some folks may consider that a small fee. Some may not. Guess it all depends on which perspective you have. :cheers:
Some times you have to fake it before you make it. If you can't spend $50/year to present a professional image for your business, you're not really trying.
Sweet...with Yahoo you can get up to 1000 custom email addresses if you get their web hosting service for $9.95/mth.
Business Email Plans: Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/email/compare-plans#email%20address)
ep...my bad, clicked on just the Google apps which doesn't include the email hosting. Still...cheap for a small business regardless, and it makes you look all grown up. And...moving email to the cloud is the way it's headed anyway, so you'd be ahead of the curve.
Sweet, so you can clean the back of your head. Betcha the cats are envious, they have to use their paws.
Plus, you don't automatically go to everybody's spam folder.
Small businesses think small, that's why most of 'em stay small.
Entropy
06-06-2011, 2:06pm
http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/email_address/1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/email_address/2.jpg
BuckyThreadkiller
06-06-2011, 2:17pm
Your email address is one of the cheapest ways out there to introduce, establish and build your brand; as it promotes your name every time you send a message.
Any business that doesn't take advantage of that as a very first step, is run by morons.
Hmmm, have email accts with aol, gmail, and yahoo.
Self employed. What do you suggest? I do custom woodworking.
prospero63
06-06-2011, 2:23pm
Hmmm, have email accts with aol, gmail, and yahoo.
Self employed. What do you suggest? I do custom woodworking.
Are you making the money you need? Do you have the customers you want? If the answers are yes, then I suggest you ****ing ignore everyone in this thread because it sounds like you're doing just fine without our peanut gallery commentary. :cheers:
Are you making the money you need? Do you have the customers you want? If the answers are yes, then I suggest you ****ing ignore everyone in this thread because it sounds like you're doing just fine without our peanut gallery commentary. :cheers:
:iagree: A small one man operation that's not technical in nature needn't bother with the expense, IMHO.
If I wanted to hire an individual woodworker I really wouldn't give a damn what their e-mail address was.
Hell, even if I was looking for a small company to hire, like a plumbing company to fix a problem, I wouldn't care if their e-mail address was BobsPlumbing@yahoo or gmail.
Now a decent sized business that rakes in 7 figures or more? Yeah, they should have their own domain name.
BuckyThreadkiller
06-06-2011, 2:37pm
Are you making the money you need? Do you have the customers you want? If the answers are yes, then I suggest you ****ing ignore everyone in this thread because it sounds like you're doing just fine without our peanut gallery commentary. :cheers:
Nothing like quality marketing advice from the network security guru.
prospero63
06-06-2011, 2:44pm
Nothing like quality marketing advice from the network security guru.
Ha!
Nothing like quality marketing advice from the network security guru.
Worth what you pay for it...
Cybercowboy
06-07-2011, 11:35am
Yeah, my email is corporate gmail, and looks like we host it ourselves.
...Whitepower...
06-07-2011, 12:48pm
Some times you have to fake it before you make it. If you can't spend $50/year to present a professional image for your business, you're not really trying.
My real eastate investment co is just me and the wife. We have a gmail account. The only people we email regularly are our agent, GC, attorney and that's it. Literally 90-95% of our emails go to three people. Also my agent has been instructed to never forward any of our emails but rather to copy and past the text due to anonymity concerns with buyers and their agents looking to contact us after the sale of the property. He'll even the phone number that we use for the biz isn't our real number but rather a google voice number that is forwarded to my cell.
That being said I have no need to market my company via email or to market it at all really. It's just a real estate holding company and that's it. My company gmail account suits us just fine.
onedef92
06-07-2011, 1:05pm
[email protected]
Is this one just a lot of name or the real deal? :D
Silverspeed
06-07-2011, 1:52pm
Hmmm, have email accts with aol, gmail, and yahoo.
Self employed. What do you suggest? I do custom woodworking.
Well, according to Bucky, you're a moron. Since I'm in the same boat, I'll have to remind myself of that the next time I write my paycheck and bonus. You know, that I'm a moron.
Are you making the money you need? Do you have the customers you want? If the answers are yes, then I suggest you ****ing ignore everyone in this thread because it sounds like you're doing just fine without our peanut gallery commentary. :cheers:
Exactly.
BuckyThreadkiller
06-07-2011, 2:10pm
Well, according to Bucky, you're a moron. Since I'm in the same boat, I'll have to remind myself of that the next time I write my paycheck and bonus. You know, that I'm a moron.
Exactly.
To clarify - If you need anonymity like Whitepower does for real estate then, there's no reason - his sales are one off custom events that have no need for mass merchandising. If your stuff falls into that category, then yes, it's not necessary and you might need additional testing to determine if you are indeed a moron.
BUT - If you're selling a product or marketing your company, then you need to have the company/product name as a domain and as your email address. Seems inanely obvious to me.
DAB - If you want people to think your custom woodworking is more than a hobby - get an email domain.
Silverspeed
06-07-2011, 2:13pm
Would you agree you might be costing yourself customers by not having a more professional representation of yourself?
No.
"How you look is what you are."
Roger Penske
BuckyThreadkiller
06-07-2011, 2:15pm
No.
What do you do?
once i get up to speed, i'll likely ask my sister to build a website for me showing some of my work, and will also establish an email acct ( DAB@<newwebsite>.com ) or something like that, and not an aol/gmail/yahoo acct, linked to the website addy.
SteelCityBlue
06-07-2011, 2:45pm
On a side note, people who work for really big companies use private accounts for networking/looking.
But having a random "what's up" to their email account at work actuall confirms employment quickly as this is pulled immediatley when you are severed.
Silverspeed
06-07-2011, 2:48pm
What do you do?
Sell equipment/services to the offshore industry. It's a VERY niche business and there are only a few companies that would even need our parts-services. Those companies/customers know us well as we have been doing business with them for over a decade. Our part is usually a small piece of a much larger project. 2-3 orders a year is not uncommon for us, but these orders usually take anywhere from 6 months to a year start to finish.
prospero63
06-07-2011, 2:57pm
IMO it seems like some folks are confusing email address with reputation. Being kind of blunt, I could probably have any email address I want, my reputation trumps it 99% of the time. What's the value in that 1%? Not enough to hassle with it, no matter how minor it might be.
Flip side, does that mean no one could or should use an email address tied to your company domain? Nah. If you can, there's really little downside beyond the cost.
It's hardly a requirement though IMO. If I engage DAB for example, it's not because he's got a "professional" email address. It's because the quality product he produces is what I want. I, and a lot of folks like me, are no so pretentious as to worry about something insignificant in the scheme of things like an email address.
Just my opinion...
BuckyThreadkiller
06-07-2011, 2:58pm
Sell equipment/services to the offshore industry. It's a VERY niche business and there are only a few companies that would even need our parts-services. Those companies/customers know us well as we have been doing business with them for over a decade. Our part is usually a small piece of a much larger project. 2-3 orders a year is not uncommon for us, but these orders usually take anywhere from 6 months to a year start to finish.
So are you selling or simply taking orders from existing customers?
Should a competitor suddenly appear would you continue to operate as usual?
My point is if you need to sell, you need to have an email addy.
IMO it seems like some folks are confusing email address with reputation. Being kind of blunt, I could probably have any email address I want, my reputation trumps it 99% of the time. What's the value in that 1%? Not enough to hassle with it, no matter how minor it might be.
Flip side, does that mean no one could or should use an email address tied to your company domain? Nah. If you can, there's really little downside beyond the cost.
It's hardly a requirement though IMO. If I engage DAB for example, it's not because he's got a "professional" email address. It's because the quality product he produces is what I want. I, and a lot of folks like me, are no so pretentious as to worry about something insignificant in the scheme of things like an email address.
Just my opinion...
(note to file: be sure to charge prospero63 extra to cover cost of website for 2 years..... :D )
got side tracked today, will head to town tomorrow to get supplies for work benches, then i can get those built and start moving tools into shop. (mrs. DAB had some 'honey do' items that i had to take care of). got the floor cleaned up yesterday. already have first project planned, will be a gift for a friend, pix when done.
prospero63
06-07-2011, 3:19pm
While I agree on your reputation point, if two people came to me but one had a more professional appearance than the other, guess whom I'm going to chose for the work.
In my industry, that's probably going to burn you. The slick looking security expert is probably not going to be able to hold a candle to the capabilities of the guy in sandals. Same goes for software development. The best guys, invariably, are kooks. If mere appearance is going to sway you, well so be-it, but be forewarned that you'll be getting what you asked for, good, bad or indifferent.
I agree DAB might not "need" a specialized email address now. That said, it's much better to get the domain now (while potentially available) and establish that as a point of contact and reputation than do it later when it might not be doable. :yesnod:
That can be valuable, and raises a good point. There's more to the technology than simply going to google mail typically. You have to obtain the domain name, make sure it's registered, make sure DNS is configured correctly and oh yeah, make sure you have a mail server you can hit. The simple reality is that for a lot of folks who AREN'T technology folks, they just don't care about all that. All they want to do is polish their wood and be happy. You see what I just did there? Oh yeah, bringing the thread back to the level we expect here... :kick:
:toetap:
'polish wood'...... :slap:
:toetap:
what, do i look like a Congressman? :dance:
Flatbush Harry
06-07-2011, 4:07pm
I use a gmail a/c for my business and one of my co-board members, a former chief accounting officer of the Securities & Exchange Commission, uses an aol account.
IMHO&Experience, people you give a shit about tend to judge you by what you write, not the site from which you post it. If any of us gave a shit about urls, would we post here or in CF?
Gimme a feckin' break.
Harry
...Whitepower...
06-07-2011, 4:26pm
What do you do?
Talk shit..:D
Jeff '79
06-07-2011, 4:29pm
I use a gmail a/c for my business and one of my co-board members, a former chief accounting officer of the Securities & Exchange Commission, uses an aol account.
IMHO&Experience, people you give a shit about tend to judge you by what you write, not the site from which you post it. If any of us gave a shit about urls, would we post here or in CF?
Gimme a feckin' break.
Harry
:iagree:....Is
[email protected] ,acceptable ??? It sounds ok to me...
Silverspeed
06-07-2011, 4:32pm
Talk shit..:D
Coming from a guy who's screen name is Whitepower. Do you have bumper stickers that say the same or are you only that brass behind a keyboard?
prospero63
06-07-2011, 4:36pm
Coming from a guy who's screen name is Whitepower. Do you have bumper stickers that say the same or are you only that brass behind a keyboard?
He's a racist from Georgia. Hates black folks. You just kind of have to suck it up with him. At least he wears his racism on his sleeve, unlike some that try to hide it. :cheers:
Jeff '79
06-07-2011, 4:36pm
He's a racist from Georgia. Hates black folks. You just kind of have to suck it up with him. At least he wears his racism on his sleeve, unlike some that try to hide it. :cheers:
:rofl::rofl:
Silverspeed
06-07-2011, 4:40pm
He's a racist from Georgia. Hates black folks. You just kind of have to suck it up with him. At least he wears his racism on his sleeve, unlike some that try to hide it. :cheers:
So what you are saying is that he's black. Got it. :D
prospero63
06-07-2011, 4:40pm
So what you are saying is that he's black. Got it. :D
Nah, that's scissors. And he's a woman. A big black woman. Cereal. :kick:
C5SilverBullet
06-07-2011, 5:02pm
We have a small consulting company, and our first order of business was to get an email address. If we presented to heads of companies with @gmail or @yahoo we would lose business.
prospero63
06-07-2011, 5:07pm
We have a small consulting company, and our first order of business was to get an email address. If we presented to heads of companies with @gmail or @yahoo we would lose business.
All about knowing your market. :cheers:
BuckyThreadkiller
06-07-2011, 5:21pm
:iagree:....Is
[email protected] ,acceptable ??? It sounds ok to me...
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about somebody reserving
[email protected] so when people start asking for lot information the info can come from
[email protected].
Everybody wants to buy a house from the phone company.
Think like your customers, not like you.
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about somebody reserving
[email protected] so when people start asking for lot information the info can come from
[email protected].
Everybody wants to buy a house from the phone company.Think like your customers, not like you.
You boys are getting gold here.
Be smart enough to pick it up.
Like ;
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Yes, all are people I know :rofl:
Pics of sugartits? :leaving:
Jeff '79
06-07-2011, 7:32pm
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about somebody reserving
[email protected] so when people start asking for lot information the info can come from
[email protected].
Everybody wants to buy a house from the phone company.
Think like your customers, not like you.
Hmmm...
Well, when I search out a subdivision, I'll search the builder, but you do have a point...If I saw the sign, would I search the builder, or the subdivision name ? I think people would do both if they were interested enough.....That's an e-mail address, not a website though, so for simple communication, I think that it's sufficient.
BuckyThreadkiller
06-07-2011, 7:49pm
Hmmm...
Well, when I search out a subdivision, I'll search the builder, but you do have a point...If I saw the sign, would I search the builder, or the subdivision name ? I think people would do both if they were interested enough.....That's an e-mail address, not a website though, so for simple communication, I think that it's sufficient.
Bob and the wife are driving around on Sunday afternoon looking for a place to build their dream home - they already have Lars the Builder lined up but haven't found the perfect location. Then they stumble upon the big stone entry of Cooper Ridge. Its just a few miles from Copper Canyon and around the bend from Timber Ridge. But there's a phone number, so when they get home they call all three and leave messages requesting info.
The next day they get three emails:
One from
[email protected] with a link to a website that shows a plot plan, lot prices, offers a discount if you mention you saw the website and lists builders doing spec and custom work in Timber Ridge. There's also a mortgage calculator, info about the local schools and a link to a blog on interim construction financing.
There's another email from
[email protected] with some basic sales info numbers, a pdf of a plot plan and sizes of available lots and a contact name and number
[email protected] ... Bob doesn't even click - that might be spam.
Ding ding ding! WINNA!
I just don't understand why people don't spend a little bit of $$$ to look professional and market themselves better. :confused:
Stunning, huh?
All about saving $5.
Jeff '79
06-07-2011, 8:36pm
Bob and the wife are driving around on Sunday afternoon looking for a place to build their dream home - they already have Lars the Builder lined up but haven't found the perfect location. Then they stumble upon the big stone entry of Cooper Ridge. Its just a few miles from Copper Canyon and around the bend from Timber Ridge. But there's a phone number, so when they get home they call all three and leave messages requesting info.
The next day they get three emails:
One from
[email protected] with a link to a website that shows a plot plan, lot prices, offers a discount if you mention you saw the website and lists builders doing spec and custom work in Timber Ridge. There's also a mortgage calculator, info about the local schools and a link to a blog on interim construction financing.
There's another email from
[email protected] with some basic sales info numbers, a pdf of a plot plan and sizes of available lots and a contact name and number
[email protected] ... Bob doesn't even click - that might be spam.
Point well taken....Right now I'm just communicating with lawyers, engineers, and partners, so customers aren't in the mix yet. Once we get to that point, a full blown internet website, with a dedicated e-mail, will be produced. All that my lawyers, and engineers care about is their next check....I really don't think they care about my e-mail address....You are right though. If I was a potential customer, that would throw up a red flag....:cheers:
C5SilverBullet
06-07-2011, 8:39pm
You boys are getting gold here.
Be smart enough to pick it up.
:withstupid:
We usually charge for the kind of info he is giving out. :lol:
C5SilverBullet
06-07-2011, 8:41pm
Stunning, huh?
All about saving $5.
Yup. aplus.net offers hosting plus email for $4.95 a month, and they even have a simple site builder with thousands of customizable designs included fort that price.
BuckyThreadkiller
06-07-2011, 8:58pm
:withstupid:
We usually charge for the kind of info he is giving out. :lol:
So does he.
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