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BayouCountry
01-28-2025, 9:00am
A startup company will be demonstrating their supersonic airliner today. I understand about the logic of naming the company Boom, but…
Overture will get you to global destinations two times faster—with orders from
United Airlines, American Airlines, and
Japan Airlines.
https://boomsupersonic.com/
DJ_Critterus
01-28-2025, 9:03am
That's like running a pornsite and naming it www.VD.com
Gonna be a long time before an actual aircraft is built. They are only today trying to break the sound barrier with their smaller prototype...:spdchk:
lrobe22
01-28-2025, 9:39am
Looking at the Overture model, they mention an augmented reality headset for takeoff and landing to avoid the droop nose design of Concorde. Coming from HMD's as well as goggles with HUD, I'm not so sure this is a great idea especially on an airliner that's probably carrying 160kts+ for Vapp especially a contaminated runway, crosswinds, and Cat II or III conditions. Eliminating actual peripheral cues is one part of what makes flying the bag so hard. The other part, which would be a related factor is the differences from the camera position versus the pilot head position as well as any head movements versus what the camera is showing. Flying 8 sim sessions in an AQP type ride isn't going to prepare you to fly in those actual conditions with an augmented reality headset that blocks all outside visual cues.
They also mention over-the-air software updates. That is a HORRIBLE idea. Hello terrorist hijacking to turn the plane into a bomb without even needing to be on board to take it over.
BayouCountry
01-28-2025, 9:45am
Gonna be a long time before an actual aircraft is built. They are only today trying to break the sound barrier with their smaller prototype...:spdchk:
2029 is their timeline for the first commercial flight
Mike Mercury
01-28-2025, 9:57am
That's like running a pornsite and naming it www.VD.com
:rofl: :funnier: :rofl:
ratflinger
01-28-2025, 10:08am
Meh, been there, done that. Flew on the Concorde to and from Paris. Basically a super fast coach flight for an outrageous fare.
Onebadcad
01-28-2025, 11:11am
At least 10 years before they have a passenger version.
By that time the star trek transporter teleporter will be $99.99 at walmart.
https://boomsupersonic.com/
Just took off. At least someone is doing something.
Unsuspicious
01-28-2025, 11:27am
The pain point for flights isn't the travel time, it's the comfort level.
No one would choose 5 hours strapped into a tin can over 8 hours in a recliner.
BayouCountry
01-28-2025, 11:37am
https://boomsupersonic.com/
Just took off. At least someone is doing something.
Mach 1.1 test was successful
AUTOHOLIC
01-28-2025, 12:20pm
Some here are too young to remember that when there were plans to build a SST (SUPERSONIC TRANSPORT) back in the late 60s, the biggest concerns or when these planes would slow down and break the sound barrier they were concerned what it would do to residential and commercial buildings in the flight path coming into Los Angeles. So the plan was to build an air field in the middle of the desert in Arizona With a high-speed train running from this new airport in Arizona City (A newly formed town to support the airport) to Tucson, Phoenix and Los Angeles. The concept was to break the sound barrier in the desolate desert, where no damage would be done and then the high-speed train would take you to one of three destinations, and the total travel time would be less than what it would be in a conventional jetliner flying directly into Los Angeles. Now Arizona city was built back then and still has a lot of curb and gutter and pave streets with no homes on them. At least this infrastructure is there in case this comes to fruition, but of course the city and airstrip would need some refurbishing. Also, the high-speed train would still have to be built. I don’t know what the plans were for flying into the East Coast with regards to any of this.
The SST was, I believe a Boeing concept plane that was never built around the same time that the Concorde came into being.
GTOguy
01-28-2025, 12:29pm
Some here are too young to remember that when there were plans to build a SST (SUPERSONIC TRANSPORT) back in the late 60s, the biggest concerns or when these planes would slow down and break the sound barrier they were concerned what it would do to residential and commercial buildings in the flight path coming into Los Angeles. So the plan was to build an air field in the middle of the desert in Arizona With a high-speed train running from this new airport in Arizona City (A newly formed town to support the airport) to Tucson, Phoenix and Los Angeles. The concept was to break the sound barrier in the desolate desert, where no damage would be done and then the high-speed train would take you to one of three destinations, and the total travel time would be less than what it would be in a conventional jetliner flying directly into Los Angeles. Now Arizona city was built back then and still has a lot of curb and gutter and pave streets with no homes on them. At least this infrastructure is there in case this comes to fruition, but of course the city and airstrip would need some refurbishing. Also, the high-speed train would still have to be built. I don’t know what the plans were for flying into the East Coast with regards to any of this.
The SST was, I believe a Boeing concept plane that was never built around the same time that the Concorde came into being.
Exactly. The SST came to my mind immediately.. I always wanted to fly on one to Europe but the $$$$ was out of my league. My understanding that the reason they were banned was due to concerns for the OZONE layer and carbon emissions. I remember hearing sonic booms all the time as a kid in Oakland from fighters based out of Alameda. They ended around 1972 or 73?
AUTOHOLIC
01-28-2025, 12:39pm
The Conchords were retired, simply because they aged out in terms of economic repairs to things such as the air frame. My neighbor when I lived up in Oak Creek Canyon took a trip on it just for the thrill of it and the airfare at that time approximately 20 years ago was $9000 round-trip.
Onebadcad
01-28-2025, 12:49pm
The Conchords were retired, simply because they aged out in terms of economic repairs to things such as the air frame. My neighbor when I lived up in Oak Creek Canyon took a trip on it just for the thrill of it and the airfare at that time approximately 20 years ago was $9000 round-trip.
That fare needed to include free peanuts and a can of pop.
Steve_R
01-28-2025, 12:53pm
Some here are too young to remember that when there were plans to build a SST (SUPERSONIC TRANSPORT) back in the late 60s, the biggest concerns or when these planes would slow down and break the sound barrier they were concerned what it would do to residential and commercial buildings in the flight path coming into Los Angeles. So the plan was to build an air field in the middle of the desert in Arizona With a high-speed train running from this new airport in Arizona City (A newly formed town to support the airport) to Tucson, Phoenix and Los Angeles. The concept was to break the sound barrier in the desolate desert, where no damage would be done and then the high-speed train would take you to one of three destinations, and the total travel time would be less than what it would be in a conventional jetliner flying directly into Los Angeles. Now Arizona city was built back then and still has a lot of curb and gutter and pave streets with no homes on them. At least this infrastructure is there in case this comes to fruition, but of course the city and airstrip would need some refurbishing. Also, the high-speed train would still have to be built. I don’t know what the plans were for flying into the East Coast with regards to any of this.
Interesting, I didn't know that. Arizona City on Google Maps satellite view doesn't look like a nice place for anything.
I flew on the Concord once. It was fast, but it was also small, cramped and noisy.
AUTOHOLIC
01-28-2025, 1:09pm
Interesting, I didn't know that. Arizona City on Google Maps satellite view doesn't look like a nice place for anything.
I flew on the Concord once. It was fast, but it was also small, cramped and noisy.
Yeah, middle of the desert between Phoenix and Tucson. Not much else out there hence the reason for its location with regards to the sound barrier being broken.
Chemtrails99
01-28-2025, 1:54pm
The Conchords were retired, simply because they aged out in terms of economic repairs to things such as the air frame. My neighbor when I lived up in Oak Creek Canyon took a trip on it just for the thrill of it and the airfare at that time approximately 20 years ago was $9000 round-trip.
One of my friends is a former Concorde A & P. He was assigned the plane because they couldn't get anybody to volunteer to work on it. Wanna get him instantly upset? Mention Concorde. He said design was stupid in that EVERYTHING was hard to access and work on. He said it took between 8 and 14 hours of maintenance for every hour that it flew.
The full sale SST mockup used to be in Kissimmee, and he said even that proto was clearly more maintenance friendly wand well thought out than Concorde. The small museum that had it went under and the building was rented by some rogue speaking in tongues church. They held services inside, under the model for some years. It was finally destroyed, with the cockpit going to a west coast museum.
Hopefully this design proves out well, they're using technology not understood the last time around. My friend who still works at Mohave was off today, so no flightline photos....bummed.
Datawiz
01-28-2025, 2:25pm
I understand about the logic of naming the company Boom, but…
https://boomsupersonic.com/
At least they didn't name it Kaboom.
Thanks for the education, guys! I did not know that about the maintenance, or noise/comfort levels, but it makes sense. Very interesting stuff.
04 commemorative
01-28-2025, 4:25pm
Remember this ?
When I worked at Miami Int. Airport for Eastern Airlines we would always be sure to find a reason to be near the ramp so we could watch the Concord land. Very cool to see.
04 commemorative
01-28-2025, 5:10pm
When I worked at Miami Int. Airport for Eastern Airlines we would always be sure to find a reason to be near the ramp so we could watch the Concord land. Very cool to see.
I used to edit the Eastern Airlines commercials :lol:
vettemed
01-28-2025, 5:56pm
When I worked at Miami Int. Airport for Eastern Airlines we would always be sure to find a reason to be near the ramp so we could watch the Concord land. Very cool to see.
Did you know Chuck Borman?
Chemtrails99
01-28-2025, 6:24pm
When I worked at Miami Int. Airport for Eastern Airlines we would always be sure to find a reason to be near the ramp so we could watch the Concord land. Very cool to see.
Did you know Dick Perkins? He was in management starting in Miami and later running MCO. Started as a wrench right out if high school and worked his way up through Eastern.
04 commemorative
01-28-2025, 9:52pm
The Wings of Man
Unsuspicious
02-16-2025, 12:53am
https://youtube.com/shorts/NdJWIkwxjcA
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