Maybe it's time for bars on the windows?

[Bill]

I live in the burbs, and our little subdivision has been relatively crime free. Maybe 7-8 years ago, a neighbor had a package stolen off the front porch. The police got as far as figuring out it was kids driving grandma's car who must have taken it, but the kids wouldn't admit to it, and the case couldn't be proven simply with surveillance camera evidence from a neighbor on the corner of our cul-de-sac.

Fast forward. About a month or so ago, a neighbor somewhere else in the subdivision had his work van burgled lost thousands of dollars worth of tools. That's apparently a thing now, thieves are going around the whole area looking for work vans to burgle.

Fast forward. Yesterday morning, Sunday morning, my NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR says she caught some guy in her backyard storage shed, who ran off when she saw him. Obviously looking for tools, whatever he could carry off, I guess. She didn't feel comfortable trying to follow the guy, and didn't come get me or anyone else, I guess. I found out about it later that day, from our other neighbor.


I've left my cars unlocked in the driveway for decades. My garage doors both have non functional openers, so I leave them unlocked, too, so I can access them by simply lifting them up. Many times I don't even lock my back door. I guess that's all over now. And I've always thought about putting up motion detector floodlights. I guess that's on the list of things to do now.

F'n thieves.

[Aerovette]

The only good thief is a dead thief.

I don't want anyone getting in my house, but if they do, they should pray that the police show up in time.

I'm not protecting my stuff, but I'll protect myself or my mom with deadly force.

[DJ_Critterus]

I live in the burbs, and our little subdivision has been relatively crime free. Maybe 7-8 years ago, a neighbor had a package stolen off the front porch. The police got as far as figuring out it was kids driving grandma's car who must have taken it, but the kids wouldn't admit to it, and the case couldn't be proven simply with surveillance camera evidence from a neighbor on the corner of our cul-de-sac.

Fast forward. About a month or so ago, a neighbor somewhere else in the subdivision had his work van burgled lost thousands of dollars worth of tools. That's apparently a thing now, thieves are going around the whole area looking for work vans to burgle.

Fast forward. Yesterday morning, Sunday morning, my NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR says she caught some guy in her backyard storage shed, who ran off when she saw him. Obviously looking for tools, whatever he could carry off, I guess. She didn't feel comfortable trying to follow the guy, and didn't come get me or anyone else, I guess. I found out about it later that day, from our other neighbor.


I've left my cars unlocked in the driveway for decades. My garage doors both have non functional openers, so I leave them unlocked, too, so I can access them by simply lifting them up. Many times I don't even lock my back door. I guess that's all over now. And I've always thought about putting up motion detector floodlights. I guess that's on the list of things to do now.

F'n thieves.

You live in Houston. Your home should be well protected and defended like Ft. Knox :yesnod:

[Tikiman]

It's only going to get worse as the 15M illegals settle down and get to stealing. Look at the IQs of Central American countries. https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

These people aren't coming here to learn to code. They might be able to hold a sign in a construction zone. Maybe. But they all know how to steal, drive without insurance, and breed.

Buckle up - it's going to get fun.

[Bill]

You live in Houston. Your home should be well protected and defended like Ft. Knox :yesnod:

Technically, I'm in an adjacent, red county where things, at least used to be, safer. The bus lines don't come here. Unfortunately, Houston's criminals have cars.

I know a guy who lives maybe 4 miles from me who had his F-250 stolen right out of his driveway maybe 6-8 years ago. Our local police found it that night, the thieves were using it to try and steal another car a few miles away. A friend who worked at the smaller Houston airport had his F-250 stolen TWICE from the employee parking lot AT the airport. Both times recovered, used to smuggle illegals. He even found peso coins in the bed.


I've always felt pretty safe because I'm at the dead end of a cul-de-sac, and unlike most of my neighbors, my garage is at the back of the property, so a thief would have to go farther in my property to reach the vehicles parked outside. I figured the people with garages in the front where the cars are right there close to the street would be the easier pickings. There's 2 or 3 work vans I see in our subdivision, they're usually in the driveway close to the street, one guy has an AT&T truck, he parks his ON the street.

Maybe I was just fooling myself into a false sense of security?

[Aerovette]

My vehicles are pretty vulnerable. The garage is the forwardmost part of the house. I have a camera on the vehicles all the time, but all that will do is let me know when it was broken in to or stolen.

I'm trying to put together a no start type switch in my truck that will still allow the remote start to work when I want it to. Probably have to have two fobs for it to work and that's what I'm trying to not do.

I want them to "think" they got away, but only get about 500 feet from the house before it dies.

[Unsuspicious]

My vehicles are pretty vulnerable. The garage is the forwardmost part of the house. I have a camera on the vehicles all the time, but all that will do is let me know when it was broken in to or stolen.

I'm trying to put together a no start type switch in my truck that will still allow the remote start to work when I want it to. Probably have to have two fobs for it to work and that's what I'm trying to not do.

I want them to "think" they got away, but only get about 500 feet from the house before it dies.

I don't see the appeal of accepting any damage done to get into your car in the first place. Best to stop them from even trying. No reason to let them break in then maybe **** it up when they can't get it going.

[Aerovette]

I don't see the appeal of accepting any damage done to get into your car in the first place. Best to stop them from even trying. No reason to let them break in then maybe **** it up when they can't get it going.

I can't keep anyone from breaking in to it unless I just leave it unlocked.

[Frankie the Fink]

Now that central Florida suburbs have become high-density housing meccas - same thing.
After 26 years here the number of vehicle break-ins and thievery has increased 1000 fold. Every day folks security cameras catch @holes trying door handles, stealing packages and other items. The day I need bars on the windows/doors the house goes on sale and I don't care about any profit.

[Rodnok1]

Thieves are opportunistic, out of sight they usually move on. May want window coverings for garage out buildings aka detached garages.
I'm way out but chain and lock overhead doors when gone all day. At least they'd have to earn it.
Unlocked vehicles get pilfered and stolen more locked. I don't lock mine as drive old ass cars unless I go out.
Unfortunately it's a sign of the times in alot if areas Bill, of course sitting on the porch cleaning the shotgun is a good deterrent.

[ZipZap]

What did you expect for a county named after Kamala?

[DJ_Critterus]

What did you expect for a county named after Kamala?

Blowies and handies at stop lights?

[Onebadcad]

While there are many negatives, many are petty, arguments against HOAs, the one undeniable benefit is a gated entry and private streets.
I have lived in the same community for 24 years, NEVER had a crime incident at my home, and know of none in the hood of 133 homes.
scumbags will get bolder, as laws are not enforced and prosecutions are continued to be cut.

Crime in my town is well below average, probably 90+% of the crimes in my city are done by those who occupy less than 5% of the physical area.

[ZipZap]

Blowies and handies at stop lights?

I know your question, and Westheimer is your answer.

[ZipZap]

While there are many negatives, many are petty, arguments against HOAs, the one undeniable benefit is a gated entry and private streets.
I have lived in the same community for 24 years, NEVER had a crime incident at my home, and know of none in the hood of 133 homes.
scumbags will get bolder, as laws are not enforced and prosecutions are continued to be cut.

Crime in my town is well below average, probably 90+% of the crimes in my city are done by those who occupy less than 5% of the physical area.

I have a story about gates, roads, crime and HOA presidents, but it is still playing out.

[Bill]

I know your question, and Westheimer is your answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0bRRR9YsxM

[DJ_Critterus]

I know your question, and Westheimer is your answer.

:funnier:

[Big bob]

Time to move out. I find driveways 1/4 to a mile plus very effective. Have never even had a trick or treater. :hurray:

[Bill]

Time to move out. I find driveways 1/4 to a mile plus very effective. Have never even had a trick or treater. :hurray:

I used to enjoy the trick or treaters. My now deceased neighbor and I used to set up lawn chairs outside and hand out candy to the kids, beers to the adults chaperoning them, although very few actually took us up on the beer. King of the Hill, y'all!

Kind of lost interest after he died, but I had a relative live with me for several years due to health issues, and that gave the relative something to look forward to, sitting on the steps close to the front door to hand out candy. I usually had to take over after a half hour, because that was too tiring after a while for the relative.

[Tikiman]

The keys to every vehicle we own are sitting on the center consoles. I have doors on my house that haven't been locked in decades. Haven't had any issues yet.

[KenHorse]

The keys to every vehicle we own are sitting on the center consoles. I have doors on my house that haven't been locked in decades. Haven't had any issues yet.

Where do you live again?

[Tikiman]

Where do you live again?

Virginia. An hour outside the capital beltway.

[SteveOceanside]

Low crime area where I live - quiet suburb 3 miles out from the town of about 100,000. It's pretty much a low crime town itself, although there are deprived areas. Quite a few Romanian & other east European immigrants in these, and a 3-man gang selling MDMA has just been busted. That's about the strength of it.

However, the mass immigration into the country from Thirdworldia continues, and our new leftist government says it's going to spread 'asylum seekers' around the country, so who knows? At present the crime is in the big cities - knife attacks seem to make the national news every week.

I think where I live will see me out. And yes I lock up, lock my car if its on the drive.

[04 commemorative]

The only thing motion detector floodlights do is let them see better where to go,what to steal or how to get in....no one these days thinks someone just turned the lights on at 4AM :funnier:

[GTOguy]

I live in the burbs, and our little subdivision has been relatively crime free. Maybe 7-8 years ago, a neighbor had a package stolen off the front porch. The police got as far as figuring out it was kids driving grandma's car who must have taken it, but the kids wouldn't admit to it, and the case couldn't be proven simply with surveillance camera evidence from a neighbor on the corner of our cul-de-sac.

Fast forward. About a month or so ago, a neighbor somewhere else in the subdivision had his work van burgled lost thousands of dollars worth of tools. That's apparently a thing now, thieves are going around the whole area looking for work vans to burgle.

Fast forward. Yesterday morning, Sunday morning, my NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR says she caught some guy in her backyard storage shed, who ran off when she saw him. Obviously looking for tools, whatever he could carry off, I guess. She didn't feel comfortable trying to follow the guy, and didn't come get me or anyone else, I guess. I found out about it later that day, from our other neighbor.


I've left my cars unlocked in the driveway for decades. My garage doors both have non functional openers, so I leave them unlocked, too, so I can access them by simply lifting them up. Many times I don't even lock my back door. I guess that's all over now. And I've always thought about putting up motion detector floodlights. I guess that's on the list of things to do now.

F'n thieves.

Time to move. You only have one life and one future. How do you want to live it?

[Swany00]

Time to move. You only have one life and one future. How do you want to live it?

depends, if he's on the downhill slide, might as well ride the wave out

[GTOguy]

Where do you live again?

He's leaving out the small detail that he lives in the middle of a secured, fenced and gated 40 acre lot stocked with killer dogs that weigh over 200 pounds each. Even if you could take out the dogs, it would be a long, visible and vulnerable crawl to the house.

[ZipZap]

Where do you live again?

Make sure to scratch the puppies between the ears on your way up the driveway. They love that.

[Tikiman]

He's leaving out the small detail that he lives in the middle of a secured, fenced and gated 40 acre lot stocked with killer dogs that weigh over 200 pounds each. Even if you could take out the dogs, it would be a long, visible and vulnerable crawl to the house.

Now that's just not true. The small female only weighs 180. She was actually the runt of the litter. Although, from a viciousness standpoint, she's the one you have to watch for.

[Tikiman]

Make sure to scratch the puppies between the ears on your way up the driveway. They love that.


They do not have ears. They remove them when they are small so that wolves don't have anything to grab ahold of. They have tufts of hair where their ears used to be.

[bsmith]

our crime rates went up when my small town started working with a nearby "city" housing authority and they started importing shitbags from the city...

[WydGlydJim]

It's only going to get worse as the 15M illegals settle down and get to stealing. Look at the IQs of Central American countries. https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

These people aren't coming here to learn to code. They might be able to hold a sign in a construction zone. Maybe. But they all know how to steal, drive without insurance, and breed.

Buckle up - it's going to get fun.

The consequences of the treason practiced by Joe Biden and the Dims is going to be hell for the public to endure, and most have no clue it is about to start happening more and more...........I can only pray it happens most in neighborhoods who voted for that shit!
:yesnod:
:cuss:

[ZipZap]

They do not have ears. They remove them when they are small so that wolves don't have anything to grab ahold of. They have tufts of hair where their ears used to be.

I know:D

[Aerovette]

FWIW, I think my truck would look pretty bad ass with bars on the windows. :D

[Onebadcad]

As have stated, RULE #1 when home buying, do not buy within 2 miles of public transportation.
If this gets closer during ownership, sell and move!!

[6spdC6]

As have stated, RULE #1 when home buying, do not buy within 2 miles of public transportation.
If this gets closer during ownership, sell and move!!

Where I live, (very rural) about the only public transportation we have is the airplanes flying overhead and the school buses.:D

[tjfontaine]

It's only going to get worse as the 15M illegals settle down and get to stealing. Look at the IQs of Central American countries. https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

These people aren't coming here to learn to code. They might be able to hold a sign in a construction zone. Maybe. But they all know how to steal, drive without insurance, and breed.

Buckle up - it's going to get fun.

It's not all illegals - we had this starting in the twin cities also out in the (at one time) safe burbs ... inner city dindus .... get by with slap on the hand go out and do it again.

I highly advise folks to keep their shit locked up ... lock your doors and your garage. Keep your cars in your garage. If you can't, don't leave shit in your cars and no GDOs. Get cameras and motion sensing lights - that won't guarantee anything but might spook the spooks enough to go elsewhere.

[jw38]

You live in Houston. Your home should be well protected and defended like Ft. Knox :yesnod:

Technically, I'm in an adjacent, red county where things, at least used to be, safer. The bus lines don't come here. Unfortunately, Houston's criminals have cars.

I know a guy who lives maybe 4 miles from me who had his F-250 stolen right out of his driveway maybe 6-8 years ago. Our local police found it that night, the thieves were using it to try and steal another car a few miles away. A friend who worked at the smaller Houston airport had his F-250 stolen TWICE from the employee parking lot AT the airport. Both times recovered, used to smuggle illegals. He even found peso coins in the bed.


I've always felt pretty safe because I'm at the dead end of a cul-de-sac, and unlike most of my neighbors, my garage is at the back of the property, so a thief would have to go farther in my property to reach the vehicles parked outside. I figured the people with garages in the front where the cars are right there close to the street would be the easier pickings. There's 2 or 3 work vans I see in our subdivision, they're usually in the driveway close to the street, one guy has an AT&T truck, he parks his ON the street.

Maybe I was just fooling myself into a false sense of security?

Any area within 50 miles of Houston is fair game for the feral street hoodrats.

[LATB]

Rural/country living is the way to go if you can make it happen. It is a lot of work so most people are not up for it.
Currently we are living in a little house in a small Mayberry town until the farmhouse is finished. We can’t wait.

[GTOguy]

My first home was in an area of the Bay Area with a lot of section 8 rentals. Government supplemented tenants never have a dog in the hunt and never take care of the property. They don't care. In Richmond, where I was, it was feral blacks. Throwing McDonalds bags out of their car windows onto the street as they pulled into their own driveways. Primitive. And that was over 30 years ago. The victimhood and entitlement is ten times worse now.

[Big bob]

Rural/country living is the way to go if you can make it happen. It is a lot of work so most people are not up for it.
Currently we are living in a little house in a small Mayberry town until the farmhouse is finished. We can’t wait.

Really I have done it my whole life. It is only a lot of work if you are trying to change it from what it is.:confused5:

[DDSLT5]

Country living is the only way to be!

[mrvette]

Here in Orange Park, a burb of Jacksonville FL. we have at least one house about 2-3 blocks away with public housing tenants...they have about 5-6 cars there, some done during day, others at night.....

my house is sorta hard to break into.......and my vette sits in the garage, electric opener....I even leave the keys hanging in the ignition....the car won't start without flipping a hidden switch....OR run further then 1/2 a block without correctly setting switches...

the locks on the house itself are custom.....nuff said.....

sign in front window sez it's guarded by an alarm company......

fences in back hard hit both sides of house, and are 6-8' high all around, pickets screwed in place and very close spaced, both gates can be opened IF you know just how to do it......

:issues::dance::seasix:

[dvarapala]

Buncha Oliver Wendell Douglases up in here... :rolleyes:

[04 commemorative]

no house is hard to break into

[Unsuspicious]

no house is hard to break into

I hate that I have a sliding glass back door

[04 commemorative]

I hate that I have a sliding glass back door

2 here

[Swany00]

Country living is the only way to be!

agreed

[The_Dude]

Country living is the only way to be!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrbPAt1_vc4

[ZipZap]

I hate that I have a sliding glass back door

Don't your glass break and outdoor movement sensors cover them?

[Unsuspicious]

Don't your glass break and outdoor movement sensors cover them?

Burglars just pop them out of the frame, no need for the noisy breaking. I have a camera to get the sweet footage of them breaking in if it happens, idk how much of a deterrent the plainly visible camera is.
However, I recently found out my dog can make a hell of a ruckus if someone knocks on my back door. The people who were staining my new deck for whatever reason didn't be normal and ring my front door to let me know they were there to do the work, just started off on my deck and knocked loudly on my sliding glass door. First time I heard my dog go ape shit, I came down in my undies with a noisy fun toy because I was sleeping in on a day off.

[BRUIZER]

Damn.. I almost WISH someone would trespass and attempt to break into something here. No need for LE. It would give the dogs some entertainment.

Just roll what's left off the edge of our drive and let the turkey vultures feast on the remains.
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[markids77]

They do not have ears. They remove them when they are small so that wolves don't have anything to grab ahold of. They have tufts of hair where their ears used to be.

Ovcharka?

[Frankie the Fink]

Here in Orange Park, a burb of Jacksonville FL. we have at least one house about 2-3 blocks away with public housing tenants...they have about 5-6 cars there, some done during day, others at night.....

my house is sorta hard to break into.......and my vette sits in the garage, electric opener....I even leave the keys hanging in the ignition....the car won't start without flipping a hidden switch....OR run further then 1/2 a block without correctly setting switches...

the locks on the house itself are custom.....nuff said.....

sign in front window sez it's guarded by an alarm company......

fences in back hard hit both sides of house, and are 6-8' high all around, pickets screwed in place and very close spaced, both gates can be opened IF you know just how to do it......

:issues::dance::seasix:

All these rural living advocates - I bought at least 3 of my hones in such areas in 3 different states. The first among massive soybean and cornfields in Chesapeake, VA, the second in a heavily forested part of southern Maryland, and, now among acres of orange groves in rural Florida. IN EACH CASE - developments and suburban sprawl moved in around me.

Enjoy it while you can...

[Tikiman]

Ovcharka?


You got it. :thumbs:


There's a reason the Russians use them as prison dogs.

[Yesfam]

Damn.. I almost WISH someone would trespass and attempt to break into something here. No need for LE. It would give the dogs some entertainment.

Just roll what's left off the edge of our drive and let the turkey vultures feast on the remains.
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"Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms"

[LATB]

All these rural living advocates - I bought at least 3 of my hones in such areas in 3 different states. The first among massive soybean and cornfields in Chesapeake, VA, the second in a heavily forested part of southern Maryland, and, now among acres of orange groves in rural Florida. IN EACH CASE - developments and suburban sprawl moved in around me.

Enjoy it while you can...

You have to do your homework and buy property in the right area. We spent nearly a decade looking at property. Where we bought is not just rural, it is agricultural zoning and that comes with 10 acres minimum if one wants to subdivide their land.
Yes zoning can be changed but highly unlikely in my immediate area.

[theandies]

While there are many negatives, many are petty, arguments against HOAs, the one undeniable benefit is a gated entry and private streets.
I have lived in the same community for 24 years, NEVER had a crime incident at my home, and know of none in the hood of 133 homes.
scumbags will get bolder, as laws are not enforced and prosecutions are continued to be cut.

Crime in my town is well below average, probably 90+% of the crimes in my city are done by those who occupy less than 5% of the physical area.

**** THAT! Have fun with your neighborhood police. If my neighborhood gets like this I'll just move.

[Onebadcad]

I hate that I have a sliding glass back door

2 here

SOLVED!!

https://www.amazon.com/Door-Security-Bar-Sliding-Lock/dp/B07NVSP174/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vLKC8JHdkt4g1Lbzix4nQQ35L2ZJx1cRegWxvhbpnRJXxtgkDJwg6IF2ScuBpz5A0eYyHe5jl7TWs7Z-P57hhL2NOhpW_lKa7p1rb3VEmmI_JnkqIN_1xEqR93wPKIww6lGBKR48YOYistcNP62EIxpKmpHThu6vSnUU_3wJtHivgzPQQp7WCCjvgqgUDGKeiARAj2bb-1_oxwInYZUOINCeWPBJ9-oCAUUP8EqpqYIu9t7sKdBnMmR2kcKzBGFIc1RF6RwJOcab73PGlDbTa40mZOeP0fDQ_NUjjY1gEZw.zhy71FJZiMjNLMlo1u_ZX3tZwbMwD0eBsIt_3yo0OWo&dib_tag=se&hvadid=482699542317&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9011891&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10352284617603007028&hvtargid=kwd-1042783833102&hydadcr=7442_11109904&keywords=bar%2Bto%2Block%2Bsliding%2Bglass%2Bdoor&qid=1722435988&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

[Frankie the Fink]

**** THAT! Have fun with your neighborhood police. If my neighborhood gets like this I'll just move.

Lived in a rough area when we first got married, a 15 year old newspaper boy (yeah a minority) raped a housewife 3 streets over while we lived there. I was working 12 hour days and going to night school and wife was home alone...she heard someone trying the front door handle one night and stood there with my 70's Mark IV Series 70 Gov't Model .45 and shouted a warning and the creep left.

After that, we moved within 3 months. It's not worth waiting until you are Fort Apache surrounded by criminals.

[6spdC6]

My town small town America for sure. Other than summer weekends when the flatlanders come up to their camps its quite decent/safe/quiet up here. . Funny thing most problems happen on weekends. Our town is big in area and small in population (around 1,000 year around residents)

We have no traffic lights, no police department and to the best of my knowledge only one black family in the town. They are good decent people by the way. About 15 miles from a small city and about 25 from a medium size city, and over 60 miles from the shithouse city of Albany, no bars on windows here.

My house is over a 1/4 mile off the road and not visible. I lived too long around Albany and do have decent security at my house. Most households up here are hunters/ fishers and well armed and know how to use weapons. Many are considered red necks and us year around people tend to watch out for each other. Like said no bars on windows here.

[Over140mph]

Any Amish?!

[markids77]

You got it. :thumbs:


There's a reason the Russians use them as prison dogs.

Please tell me you are not a diminutive computer savant named Simon. :D

[Tikiman]

Please tell me you are not a diminutive computer savant named Simon. :D

You mean, "Nicholas".


And, no, but the same dogs.

[SnikPlosskin]

The only thing motion detector floodlights do is let them see better where to go,what to steal or how to get in....no one these days thinks someone just turned the lights on at 4AM :funnier:

They help me aim.

[SnikPlosskin]

Bill, you need to get over the past. It’s just a matter of time before you are victimized. This shit happens everywhere. All the time.

[Unsuspicious]

SOLVED!!

https://www.amazon.com/Door-Security-Bar-Sliding-Lock/dp/B07NVSP174/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vLKC8JHdkt4g1Lbzix4nQQ35L2ZJx1cRegWxvhbpnRJXxtgkDJwg6IF2ScuBpz5A0eYyHe5jl7TWs7Z-P57hhL2NOhpW_lKa7p1rb3VEmmI_JnkqIN_1xEqR93wPKIww6lGBKR48YOYistcNP62EIxpKmpHThu6vSnUU_3wJtHivgzPQQp7WCCjvgqgUDGKeiARAj2bb-1_oxwInYZUOINCeWPBJ9-oCAUUP8EqpqYIu9t7sKdBnMmR2kcKzBGFIc1RF6RwJOcab73PGlDbTa40mZOeP0fDQ_NUjjY1gEZw.zhy71FJZiMjNLMlo1u_ZX3tZwbMwD0eBsIt_3yo0OWo&dib_tag=se&hvadid=482699542317&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9011891&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10352284617603007028&hvtargid=kwd-1042783833102&hydadcr=7442_11109904&keywords=bar%2Bto%2Block%2Bsliding%2Bglass%2Bdoor&qid=1722435988&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

Already have a pole there, like I said, the whole door can just be lifted off the rails. I have an additional deadbolt up top as well. Lets me crack it open but still be locked.

[ZipZap]

Burglars just pop them out of the frame, no need for the noisy breaking. I have a camera to get the sweet footage of them breaking in if it happens, idk how much of a deterrent the plainly visible camera is.
However, I recently found out my dog can make a hell of a ruckus if someone knocks on my back door. The people who were staining my new deck for whatever reason didn't be normal and ring my front door to let me know they were there to do the work, just started off on my deck and knocked loudly on my sliding glass door. First time I heard my dog go ape shit, I came down in my undies with a noisy fun toy because I was sleeping in on a day off.

Off the rail and my alarm would be blaring.

[Frankie the Fink]

You have to do your homework and buy property in the right area. We spent nearly a decade looking at property. Where we bought is not just rural, it is agricultural zoning and that comes with 10 acres minimum if one wants to subdivide their land.
Yes zoning can be changed but highly unlikely in my immediate area.

Yeah, sure, you think orange groves weren't agriculturally zoned ?
Some slimy developer greases a few palms on city P&Z boards and presto, a zoning change. I've been through it all.

The best you can hope for is that you won't live long enough to see the onslaught of every other swinging dick just like you that wants to "get away from it all" moving in around you.

The paradigm is that some city/suburban @hole moves nearby, then another, then another. Next, the wives want a shopping center so they don't have to drive 25 miles to get that 8th pair of shoes and then, hey, we need a nice restaurant or two. Well, hell we need housing for people that work in those places. Next thing you know its Taco Bell and car dealers.

Ironically and pathetically, those same dumb sh!ts all of a sudden are complaining about crime and congestion.

And on and on.

[Torqaholic]

Not sure how they do it but I've only seen one new house built in this city in the last thirty years since I lived here... Nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit :D

[BRUIZER]

Yeah, sure, you think orange groves weren't agriculturally zoned ?
Some slimy developer greases a few palms on city P&Z boards and presto, a zoning change. I've been through it all.

The best you can hope for is that you won't live long enough to see the onslaught of every other swinging dick just like you that wants to "get away from it all" moving in around you.

The paradigm is that some city/suburban @hole moves nearby, then another, then another. Next, the wives want a shopping center so they don't have to drive 25 miles to get that 8th pair of shoes and then, hey, we need a nice restaurant or two. Well, hell we need housing for people that work in those places. Next thing you know its Taco Bell and car dealers.

Ironically and pathetically, those same dumb sh!ts all of a sudden are complaining about crime and congestion.

And on and on.


It sort of depends. We're a small county of 7k residents and maintain pretty strict control over growth and other unwanted intrusions. No fast food restaraunts, nor billboard signage etc. Large retail stores are an hour away. We know where our representation resides, so it keeps them VERY honest. :yesnod:

We also donate gear, etc, annually to the city PD below us to help with budget shortfalls. We actually reside in county jurisdiction, but the sheriffs budget is much more robust comparitively.

The younger generations here seem even more rabid to new comers and anything deemed a threat to their quality of life. The cemetery up the road from us has five last names that pretty much dominate all plots all the way back to the 1800's.

One of the few downsides to small towns: the petty chit people argue over and post it on sm for all to see. The womenz are the most vicious :Jeff '79: Their desparate cries for attention is palatable.

[Frankie the Fink]

Hope it lasts for you....my place in rural southern Maryland was on 4 acres and not a house for a couple of miles, beaver, wild turkeys, deer and bobcats.... That lasted for 5 years and was idyllic....then the big city refugees started showing up and so it goes...

There are few of humanities problems that couldn't be mitigated by less people. But MFs just can't stop from making more MFs...