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GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 8:18am
Drag Strip visit 7/27/2024, 3 runs
1st run against a Golf
2nd run against a Challenger Hellcat Redeye on Drag Radials
3rd run against a Mustang

Had a 4th run but forgot to turn on recording but it was against another slow car.. Not an interesting run.

https://youtu.be/LXhjSSlVQ8M?si=q14AKSZ0TzYXXL6x

zsr22
07-29-2024, 8:30am
Had a 4th run but forgot to turn on recording but it was against another slow car.. Not an interesting run.



As if the previous 3 runs provided edge-of-your-seat excitement.

Rikki Z-06
07-29-2024, 8:38am
:yawn:

DJ_Critterus
07-29-2024, 8:40am
:yawn:

Do you still have your golf cart? Maybe you could take that to the track, too :funnier:

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 8:42am
As if the previous 3 runs provided edge-of-your-seat excitement.

I understand that going from 0 - 141 mph under 10 seconds may be boring for some.. Some people find acceleration boring.

Rikki Z-06
07-29-2024, 8:52am
I understand that going from 0 - 141 mph under 10 seconds may be boring for some.. Some people find acceleration boring.

With an electric appliance with nannies, yes very boring. :yesnod:

DDSLT5
07-29-2024, 8:56am
Sorry dude - don't care. Boring as hell. Why? No cool sound. No skill involved. Literally, I could take that sled down the strip in roughly the same time. And I'm a SHIT drag racer. Yawn.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 8:57am
With an electric appliance with nannies, yes very boring. :yesnod:

Other than engine noise, no different than racing an automatic gas car.
I have raced many Vettes.. Same thing.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 8:58am
Sorry dude - don't care. Boring as hell. Why? No cool sound. No skill involved. Literally, I could take that sled down the strip in roughly the same time. And I'm a SHIT drag racer. Yawn.

Because you need so much skill racing an automatic gas car :lol:

There is no difference in skill required.. I raced Vettes for many years. Same exact thing except for engine sound.
Only difference is that you need sticky tires on RWD gas cars for traction.

Onebadcad
07-29-2024, 9:23am
Impressive and consistent, BUT your teenage daughter could replicate your times.

I have raced 1/4 mile, 0.50 mile and 1.00 mile in my V1, C6 and V2, very different, driver skills dictate ALL THIINGS, much more engagement working three pedals and a shifter.

This was fun, V1, three pedals as ALL should know, Collier Airport, 1-mile run.
Ran out of tire and gear at 3/4 mile, as shifted at 155mph into 6th, only add 7 mph in last 1/4 mile.
Still fun, back in the day when people still shifted, and filled up with 100-oct race fuel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaOelxNhcs

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 9:32am
Impressive and consistent, BUT your teenage daughter could replicate your times.

I have raced 1/4 mile, 0.50 mile and 1.00 mile in my V1, C6 and V2, very different, driver skills dictate ALL THIINGS, much more engagement working three pedals and a shifter.

This was fun, V1, three pedals as ALL should know, Collier Airport, 1-mile run.
Ran out of tire and gear at 3/4 mile, as shifted at 155mph into 6th, only add 7 mph in last 1/4 mile.
Still fun, back in the day when people still shifted, and filled up with 100-oct race fuel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaOelxNhcs
Yes, stick shift requires more skills but most cars at the drag strip are auto. Auto transmission and EV are equally as easy to take down the track as long as you got proper tires on your RWD gas car.
I've raced Vettes for many years. All fast modern gas cars also have launch control.

DJ_Critterus
07-29-2024, 9:39am
Other than engine noise, no different than racing an automatic gas car.
I have raced many Vettes.. Same thing.

Did you put a tune on your appliance before sending it down the strip?

Onebadcad
07-29-2024, 9:47am
Yes, stick shift requires more skills but most cars at the drag strip are auto. Auto transmission and EV are equally as easy to take down the track as long as you got proper tires on your RWD gas car.
I've raced Vettes for many years. All fast modern gas cars also have launch control.

Autos require much more skills than point and stomp.
I do not equate driving a 1,000+ HP C6 or C7 AUTO with required prep, launch techniques and heated tires, the same as a plaidster.
Driving a stick down the track IS WORLDS APART from an auto or ev.
I look at evS as the teenage girls' new best friend; my wife could also replicate the times.

Only an ev owner would try to tell ICE guys it is as cool and as challenging as what they drive,,, I, for one, will never be convinced.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 9:52am
Autos require much more skills than point and stomp.
I do not equate driving a 1,000+ HP C6 or C7 AUTO with required prep, launch techniques and heated tires, the same as a plaidster.
Driving a stick down the track IS WORLDS APART from an auto or ev.
I look at evS as the teenage girls' new best friend; my wife could also replicate the times.

Only an ev owner would try to tell ICE guys it is as cool and as challenging as what they drive,,, I, for one, will never be convinced.

Most people running in the 9's have all that. Linelock, sticky tire and auto. Other than when I started drag racing, I raced on sticky tires and had a line lock to warm them up. Raced 5 speed Tremec in the beginning in my 68 Vert. Then switched to auto as stick sucks for bracket racing.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 9:57am
Did you put a tune on your appliance before sending it down the strip?

I didn't tune my late model Vettes either for drag racing. Just my Race Vette. Set timing and adjust suspension. My late model Vettes didn't have adjustable anything. Only tuning was tire pressure. Stock engines with bolt ons.
I mostly bracket raced. The skill involved for that is mostly about timing and a consistent staging routine. I had many podium finishes racing Corvette Challenge events. Won twice, once with a 92 Coupe and once with the 68 Race car.

DJ_Critterus
07-29-2024, 10:17am
I didn't tune my late model Vettes either for drag racing. Just my Race Vette. Set timing and adjust suspension. My late model Vettes didn't have adjustable anything. Only tuning was tire pressure. Stock engines with bolt ons.
I mostly bracket raced. The skill involved for that is mostly about timing and a consistent staging routine. I had many podium finishes racing Corvette Challenge events. Won twice, once with a 92 Coupe and once with the 68 Race car.

Wrong. Late model vettes are tuned with a computer. You just don't know how to do it. Still takes more talent than racing a toaster.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 10:21am
Wrong. Late model vettes are tuned with a computer. You just don't know how to do it. Still takes more talent than racing a toaster.

Yes, you can tune them with a computer but I didn't. All that I worried about when bracket racing was consistency. I didn't try to squeeze the most out of the setup because there was no point if the car was already consistent. The only "mod" I did on the '92 coupe was the linelock and I ended up putting the radiator fans on a switch because when the fans came on in the middle of a run, I would lose a few 1/100 of a second. So, whenever I went down the track, my fans were off. The 92 ran within 2 - 3 hundreds of a second. That's all I wanted from the car.

GTOguy
07-29-2024, 10:34am
Oliver, I'm happy you are having fun. I like you. But the rest of us on this forum don't care about your Tesla or your drag racing with it. Your posts about warm meals and shilling CFOT are much more interesting to us. Seriously.
Glad you are having fun, and be safe. :cert:

DDSLT5
07-29-2024, 10:36am
Because you need so much skill racing an automatic gas car :lol:

There is no difference in skill required.. I raced Vettes for many years. Same exact thing except for engine sound.
Only difference is that you need sticky tires on RWD gas cars for traction.

Ok - you may be correct about the skill levels involved with an automatic car - you got me there! But I do think you're discounting the dramatic effect of the sound of the engine on the excitement factor of racing. As the rpms and noise go up, so does the adrenaline. As a drag racer, I'd expect you to appreciate this!!!!!!!!!!

6spdC6
07-29-2024, 10:42am
Yes, you can tune them with a computer but I didn't. All that I worried about when bracket racing was consistency. I didn't try to squeeze the most out of the setup because there was no point if the car was already consistent. The only "mod" I did on the '92 coupe was the linelock and I ended up putting the radiator fans on a switch because when the fans came on in the middle of a run, I would lose a few 1/100 of a second. So, whenever I went down the track, my fans were off. The 92 ran within 2 - 3 hundreds of a second. That's all I wanted from the car.

I was a regular at our two drag strips in my area (mid 60s to early 70s) and the occasional visiting of two more about 70 miles further. Lets just say I did my share of racing.

So glad it was class racing without the bracket racing shit.

I like to run as hard as I could. Lots to do when I arrived at the strips. First things was change street tires to MHs, while the car was on the jack, with safety stands would unhook the exhaust from the header collector. By that time the engine had cooled down and change pugs to a colder variety. Took off the PS belt. Good thing the trunks of cars in that era were large!:D Did a couple runs and did some adjustments if warranted.

Like said no bracket stuff just run hard. Leaving put the car back to street status. The car I used the most back them was a well set up 67 Dodge RT 440 Auto and it certainly won more races than it lost.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 11:08am
Ok - you may be correct about the skill levels involved with an automatic car - you got me there! But I do think you're discounting the dramatic effect of the sound of the engine on the excitement factor of racing. As the rpms and noise go up, so does the adrenaline. As a drag racer, I'd expect you to appreciate this!!!!!!!!!!

I do miss the sound. I used to race open pipes.
However, the lack of sound is a small price to pay for a 9 second car with 150k miles warranty on motors and battery.
Virtually everyone who has a 9 second 1/4 mile gas car will break stuff. I see cars breaking down at the track all the time. Once you get into 9's, most warranties are null and void as the mods to get there will void the warranty unless you have an exotic high $ Supercar that runs 9's stock.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 11:11am
I was a regular at our two drag strips in my area (mid 60s to early 70s) and the occasional visiting of two more about 70 miles further. Lets just say I did my share of racing.

So glad it was class racing without the bracket racing shit.

I like to run as hard as I could. Lots to do when I arrived at the strips. First things was change street tires to MHs, while the car was on the jack, with safety stands would unhook the exhaust from the header collector. By that time the engine had cooled down and change pugs to a colder variety. Took off the PS belt. Good thing the trunks of cars in that era were large!:D Did a couple runs and did some adjustments if warranted.

Like said no bracket stuff just run hard. Leaving put the car back to street status. The car I used the most back them was a well set up 67 Dodge RT 440 Auto and it certainly won more races than it lost.
Unless you have a vehicle built for a particular heads up class, you have little options on events you can compete in. Bracket racing is the only way you can race without a lot of class specific rules. Building a car for faster heads up classes is expensive.

6spdC6
07-29-2024, 11:31am
Unless you have a vehicle built for a particular heads up class, you have little options on events you can compete in. Bracket racing is the only way you can race without a lot of class specific rules. Building a car for faster heads up classes is expensive.

Bracket racing, the now huge cost of class racing and getting married I no longer went to the drags as a competitor. It was a lot of fun and also street racing but those are now many years/decades in the past!

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 11:40am
Bracket racing, the now huge cost of class racing and getting married I no longer went to the drags as a competitor. It was a lot of fun and also street racing but those are now many years/decades in the past!

Most of the heads up classes other than super stock are cars that are in the 6's to 8's in most classes and building a car that consistently runs that fast is very expensive. Super Stock requires lots of machine work on the original block to be allowed to run the class. I liked to just drop crate engines in my Vettes which was a lot easier than following a complex build to stay within the rules of a particular class. I liked to compete, so, bracket was the only way for me to go. I ran Sportsman most of my time racing but in the last year, I did add a box and ran Super Pro with nitrous on a timer. We also index raced on a 10.0 index at the National Corvette Challenge.

RonC5
07-29-2024, 1:25pm
Just for curiosity, how much does the battery discharge on a quarter mile run?

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 1:28pm
Just for curiosity, how much does the battery discharge on a quarter mile run?

About 2.5 to 3% per run

Onebadcad
07-29-2024, 1:37pm
Yes, stick shift requires more skills but most cars at the drag strip are auto. Auto transmission and EV are equally as easy to take down the track as long as you got proper tires on your RWD gas car.
I've raced Vettes for many years. All fast modern gas cars also have launch control.

I will disagree.
To maximize the run for an auto car, you need:

1) Engine tune
2) Transmission tune
3) Tire prep
4) Burnout plays a HUGE part
5) Fuel mixture
6) Launch technique
7) Helps if you are student of drag racing, you learn things on each run
8) I am probably forgetting some things

To take a telsa down the track, you point and stomp, no prep required, ANYONE can replicate the run.

Although very different, somewhat akin, you can stick a cup in kuerig, or you can purchase high-quality beans, grind on your own and formulate with cream and a sweetener, then custom brew a very most delectable morning drink.
The keuring thing is for amateurs,,, Mr. Coffee was a bigger challenge.

GrandSportC3
07-29-2024, 8:19pm
I will disagree.
To maximize the run for an auto car, you need:

1) Engine tune
2) Transmission tune
3) Tire prep
4) Burnout plays a HUGE part
5) Fuel mixture
6) Launch technique
7) Helps if you are student of drag racing, you learn things on each run
8) I am probably forgetting some things

To take a telsa down the track, you point and stomp, no prep required, ANYONE can replicate the run.

Although very different, somewhat akin, you can stick a cup in kuerig, or you can purchase high-quality beans, grind on your own and formulate with cream and a sweetener, then custom brew a very most delectable morning drink.
The keuring thing is for amateurs,,, Mr. Coffee was a bigger challenge.

Most people racing street cars at the drag strip don't do any of that. Sure, burnout is needed to warm up tires but any bozo can do a burnout in an auto car. With a stick car, a line lock is helpful.
Many modern sports cars have launch control and launching is just as easy as in a Tesla. Sure, anyone can run down the drag strip in a Tesla just like anyone can do it in an automatic car with launch control. As I said, I've been racing many different setups and the only thing that required skills was to run low 11's with only 450 HP in my 68 Vette with a Tremec 5 Speed on Drag Radials.
When my '68 Race Vette was all set up, all it took to launch was to roll forward to stage the car, push the transbrake button and floor the accelerator where the 2 step kept the RPM at ideal launch RPM and release the transbrake at 3rd orange and go. 1 single shift on the Glide when shift light came on. I wouldn't consider any of that difficult.
The most important skill is cutting a good light. It's all about consistency in your staging routine. Stage a little too deep and you may red light.. It takes skill to cut an average of about 0.05 light. Back in the day, I averaged close to that footbraking and even better than that with the box. Sure, tuning the car is a skill but a separate skill from driving the car down the track. Some racers have a crew that does the tuning part for them. If the car is properly set up, it's easy to take it down the track.

jw38
07-30-2024, 9:12am
Did you have time for your Ozempic shot between runs?