BP

[Don Rickles]

Let's talk Blood Pressure.

Something's not right (we all ready know this:yesnod: but), thinking about going to the ER....?

I've been a 120/80 my entire life. No longer. I'm over 150/90. I can feel/hear my heart beating in my ears. Fatigued and moments of vertigo....

I'm the typical man, gotta drag me in....

The other day at the eye Dr.'s she even mentioned high BP and there were some evidence in my eyes....

This can't happen to me, I'm way to fit and do take great care, eating exercising, etc.

What's up doc's...?

[04 commemorative]

age.....but I am always much lower than the norm,which is probably not good either.
When I donate platelets,plasma or whole blood they think they did something wrong and redo it on other arm.

[vettemed]

Silent killer, BP is. Don't play around with it.

[DJ_Critterus]

Your systolic is a bit high, but your diastolic (the really really really important number) is within a decent range, but could be lower.

Without meds, my BP hovers around 150/110...almost stroke territory. With meds, I'm around 125/75.

I also know my BP is going up if I look in the mirror and my ears start to turn red. That's when it's time to cool off, sit down, and take a breather for a few minutes.

[Don Rickles]

Your systolic is a bit high, but your diastolic (the really really really important number) is within a decent range, but could be lower.

Without meds, my BP hovers around 150/110...almost stroke territory. With meds, I'm around 125/75.

I also know my BP is going up if I look in the mirror and my ears start to turn red. That's when it's time to cool off, sit down, and take a breather for a few minutes.

Thank you. Thanks Vetmed and 04, too!

Off to work now, I'll jump back on the box later.....:seasix::konawork:

[Don Rickles]

Your systolic is a bit high, but your diastolic (the really really really important number) is within a decent range, but could be lower.

Without meds, my BP hovers around 150/110...almost stroke territory. With meds, I'm around 125/75.

I also know my BP is going up if I look in the mirror and my ears start to turn red. That's when it's time to cool off, sit down, and take a breather for a few minutes.

Might just be the excitement that Zeek finally apologized!:yesnod:










:rofl:

[NoOne]

Thank you. Thanks Vetmed and 04, too!

Off to work now, I'll jump back on the box later.....:seasix::konawork:

My cardiologist who I trust quite a bit says he is more concerned with the ratio.

I went in with what is considered high blood pressure, I've already had a heart attack which was not related to bp.

I think I was 145/90 and he told me, as long as the ratio is right, which shows the mean pressure inside the heart, he is not overly concerned.

Now if its crazy high that's something else.

[Bruze]

Let's talk Blood Pressure.

Something's not right (we all ready know this:yesnod: but), thinking about going to the ER....?

I've been a 120/80 my entire life. No longer. I'm over 150/90. I can feel/hear my heart beating in my ears. Fatigued and moments of vertigo....

I'm the typical man, gotta drag me in....

The other day at the eye Dr.'s she even mentioned high BP and there were some evidence in my eyes....

This can't happen to me, I'm way to fit and do take great care, eating exercising, etc.

What's up doc's...?

I've been on BP meds (Lisinopril) for about 20 years (zero symptoms, which is why it's called "The Silent Killer"). It kept it close to 120/80, although quite a bit higher at times.

I've been pre-diabetic for several years now and in February I decided to get back to a Keto-carnivore diet. I was never real strict with it before, but am now.

Over dozens of readings, in the past couple months, it has averaged 110/66, almost too low. Going on a low-carb diet often reduces BP for most people. Check YouTube, tons of info there.

A few weeks ago it was trending higher, but I had a cold and was taking OTCs with decongestant, which can raise it. After a couple days off the meds, my BP came back down.

Note to OP: It is well known that ham, bacon, and pork chops significantly reduces BP. :rolleyes:

[DJ_Critterus]

I've been on BP meds (Lisinopril) for about 20 years (zero symptoms, which is why it's called "The Silent Killer"). It kept it close to 120/80, although quite a bit higher at times.

I've been pre-diabetic for several years now and in February I decided to get back to a Keto-carnivore diet. I was never real strict with it before, but am now.

Over dozens of readings, in the past couple months, it has averaged 110/66, almost too low. Going on a low-carb diet often reduces BP for most people. Check YouTube, tons of info there.

A few weeks ago it was trending higher, but I had a cold and was taking OTCs with decongestant, which can raise it. After a couple days off the meds, my BP came back down.

Note to OP: It is well known that ham, bacon, and pork chops significantly reduces BP. :rolleyes:
Lisinopril.... I'm on that, too. I hate the side effect though, which is almost like a short, shallow smoker's cough. :ack:

[Bruze]

Lisinopril.... I'm on that, too. I hate the side effect though, which is almost like a short, shallow smoker's cough. :ack:

Yeah I think that's quite common, although I don't have it. :)

I have a physical in a couple weeks, Imma ask doc to lower my dosage from 10 MG to 5.

[vettemed]

I'm on Losartan for BP, no side effects that I can tell. Other than maybe making me more of an asshole, but who cares about that?

[zeek]

Might just be the excitement that Zeek finally apologized!:yesnod::rofl:

You had better check your BP again....because I think you had a stroke. Zeek has nothing to apologize for nor would he if he did...:slap:

[MikeB]

Not saying this is your situation, but don't put it off.

The last time I felt my heart beat in my ears, it did not end well for me.
BP was good, I was on Lisinopril and one other med to control it by my
previous Dr who had put me on them back in 2007. Also on Atorvastatin
for high cholesterol at that time.
In 2010, I started having those symptoms, and I mentioned it to my
new doctor (job change, medical plan change = new doctor) at my
annual physical.
Before ending the visit, Doc says "Let me listen to your neck"
Gives me a quizzical look after listening and says "I hear gushing sounds
on both carotid arteries", and he proceeded to order an ultrasound for me.
Scared the heck out of the ultrasound tech, but she wouldn't tell me what
scared her. Tried getting hold of the Dr, but it was Friday afternoon, no luck.
Monday, Drs office called, emergency visit with him that same day.
Ended up with a 90% blockage on the right, and 98% on the left.
I had to then go in for catheterization, to check if my heart could handle
the carotid surgeries required.
Nope.
3 blockages in this area.
Another catheterization 1 week later to install 3 stents in me, and then I had the carotids repaired . 3 separate operations 1 month apart, #3 was to fix a superficial artery that was damaged during operation #2, which exploded out of the stapled incision area the day I returned to work. Was that a fun day!
Thought I was going to die. Fun ambulance ride, nearly passed out due to
blood loss, med tech damn near choked me out with the pressure he put on
my neck stopping the blood spurts.
Dr said it exploded because of my high blood pressure. Yeah, right.
More likely put a staple through it, or clawed it with the grapple hook
they use to pin the skin flap out of the way during operating.

One more operation to sew up a hernia around the catheter entry point.
That was a busy year for me.

2020 was also a busy year, hospitalization wise, due to Covid.
The only good outcome of that shit is, my blood pressure dropped so low
that I was taken off my blood pressure meds, and I've been pretty steady for
3+ years in the 130/80 range without meds.

Cliffs:
As vettemed said, don't procastinate with BP.

[Aerovette]

Let's talk Blood Pressure.

Something's not right (we all ready know this:yesnod: but), thinking about going to the ER....?

I've been a 120/80 my entire life. No longer. I'm over 150/90. I can feel/hear my heart beating in my ears. Fatigued and moments of vertigo....

I'm the typical man, gotta drag me in....

The other day at the eye Dr.'s she even mentioned high BP and there were some evidence in my eyes....

This can't happen to me, I'm way to fit and do take great care, eating exercising, etc.

What's up doc's...?

Take a baby aspirin every day for a couple weeks and see if anything changes. (81mg)

Cut sodium intake.

[Little Red L98.]

Random rhr check. BP is good.

[Onebadcad]

I have been dealing with HBP for 20+ years.
I attribute it to genetics, as never overweight, exercise daily, not a drinker or smoker, and know how to manage stress.

When I first noticed it, a general doc put me on 6 meds, I fired him and went to a cardiologist, who got me down to two, minoxidil and a beta blocker.

Went well for 15+ years, and then a new cardiologist put me on valsartan and carvedilol, seems to work better than previous.

I have ask numerous times why I still have blood pressure meds even though I do all the right things.
The answer is that you cannot beat your genetics, as I also have mild diabetes even though my sugar / carb intake has always been minimal.

I would recommend seeing a cardiologist if you are going to take BP meds, as hopefully they can address the cause and eliminate the need for drugs.
Reqeust that they run every test, annoying, but may define the cause.

Unfortunately doctors today rarely address the cause, as they can give you a pill for the symptoms--not addressing the cause will harm you greatly in the long term.

[Taurus]

A couple things. First off is that as we age our BP goes up and 135/90 is actually considered normal now for men over 60. What you describe is stage 1 hypertension which is not emergent but should be looked at. If your average of 3 readings is over 160/100 that's stage 2 and I would go to get it checked as soon as possible.

Hypertension is usually diagnosed after three consecutive visits with an elevated BP, a bigger concern would be a sudden increase in BP that stays high. Many things cause that, BP is higher for two hours after eating, any illness even very subtle ones or simply taking your BP too often.

In my case, I've had controlled high BP since 2008 until I dropped a significant amount of weight. I'm currently coming off BP meds as a result as my BP can drop to 90/50 after my cool down period from working out.

If you don't like your current med, ask about Olmesartan, it works differently than Lisinopril which basically slows your heart rate which feels lousy in my case. Olmesartan works by essentially making your arteries more pliable to help absorb the pressure without causing damage.

[DJ_Critterus]

I'm on Losartan for BP, no side effects that I can tell. Other than maybe making me more of an asshole, but who cares about that?

Man, I am on a plethora of BP meds and yes, I know what a Plethora is, El Guapo :D

Lisinopril, Amlodipine (Norvasc), Chlorthalidone...

that's not counting the other meds I have to be on for the rest of my life, too :(

Looks like I didn't treat myself kindly in my younger years, but damn, did I have a great time.

Now I eat better...much better. Per my family Cardio Doc who is also a good friend of ours, I eat salmon a couple times a week and when I want a snack at home, grab a handful of olives (yes, in the salty brine) and eat those. I eat red meat maybe once a week max if I do at all. My BP has drastically changed and I think doc wants to lower the dosages of the meds he has me on.

[Bruze]

I have been dealing with HBP for 20+ years.
I attribute it to genetics, as never overweight, exercise daily, not a drinker or smoker, and know how to manage stress.

When I first noticed it, a general doc put me on 6 meds, I fired him and went to a cardiologist, who got me down to two, minoxidil and a beta blocker.

Went well for 15+ years, and then a new cardiologist put me on valsartan and carvedilol, seems to work better than previous.

I have ask numerous times why I still have blood pressure meds even though I do all the right things.
The answer is that you cannot beat your genetics, as I also have mild diabetes even though my sugar / carb intake has always been minimal.

I would recommend seeing a cardiologist if you are going to take BP meds, as hopefully they can address the cause and eliminate the need for drugs.
Reqeust that they run every test, annoying, but may define the cause.

Unfortunately doctors today rarely address the cause, as they can give you a pill for the symptoms--not addressing the cause will harm you greatly in the long term.

Diabetes/metabolic syndrome often raises BP. Cut carbs and your A1C will drop, probably significantly. Check or have it checked 3 months after diet change.

[Onebadcad]

A couple things. First off is that as we age our BP goes up and 135/90 is actually considered normal now for men over 60. What you describe is stage 1 hypertension which is not emergent but should be looked at. If your average of 3 readings is over 160/100 that's stage 2 and I would go to get it checked as soon as possible.

Hypertension is usually diagnosed after three consecutive visits with an elevated BP, a bigger concern would be a sudden increase in BP that stays high. Many things cause that, BP is higher for two hours after eating, any illness even very subtle ones or simply taking your BP too often.

In my case, I've had controlled high BP since 2008 until I dropped a significant amount of weight. I'm currently coming off BP meds as a result as my BP can drop to 90/50 after my cool down period from working out.

If you don't like your current med, ask about Olmesartan, it works differently than Lisinopril which basically slows your heart rate which feels lousy in my case. Olmesartan works by essentially making your arteries more pliable to help absorb the pressure without causing damage.

The big pharm companies and their pill peddlers, aka docs, have been in cahoots for 30+ years, telling us that the old standards are no more, and the new standards require everyone on a daily pill regimen.
And of course once they get you on a pill, you will need another pill to counteract the first one.

[DJ_Critterus]

The big pharm companies and their pill peddlers, aka docs, have been in cahoots for 30+ years, telling us that the old standards are no more, and the new standards require everyone on a daily pill regimen.
And of course once they get you on a pill, you will need another pill to counteract the first one.

When you find a good doc, stick with that person. Mine knows what the cause of my BP is, but because I am of Polish decent, we tend to react very, very different to meds that most people do. Check it out... tis true.

It took him almost two years to find the right med combo that my body could handle, but when he dialed it in...bam! Quality of life got better almost over night.

[Taurus]

The big pharm companies and their pill peddlers, aka docs, have been in cahoots for 30+ years, telling us that the old standards are no more, and the new standards require everyone on a daily pill regimen.
And of course once they get you on a pill, you will need another pill to counteract the first one.

If true, why say it's OK to have higher BP which would cut down on their sales? :island14:

[Taurus]

When you find a good doc, stick with that person. Mine knows what the cause of my BP is, but because I am of Polish decent, we tend to react very, very different to meds that most people do. Check it out... tis true.

It took him almost two years to find the right med combo that my body could handle, but when he dialed it in...bam! Quality of life got better almost over night.

:iagree:

[MikeB]

Diabetes/metabolic syndrome often raises BP. Cut carbs and your A1C will drop, probably significantly. Check or have it checked 3 months after diet change.

Will this cause one to become a fat singing dancer at work?
AMHMU0YPFEc

[Onebadcad]

If true, why say it's OK to have higher BP which would cut down on their sales? :island14:

Healthcare and pharms are ONLY about money.
No one address the cause, as it stops the money train.
chiroquacks are the best at this, you have a lifetime of appointments after your first visit.

MY KIDNEY STONE, AND UROLOGIST VACATION HOME
I have my one and only kidney stone last year, doc scheduled surgery to take it out, well he could not get it, so put in a stint; I spent two days in hospital after admission into ER, first surgery was three days after discharge.

Then, two weeks later he went back in to take out the stint, but could not find the stone, said it broke up on its own.

Now he wants me in his office every 3 months to scan for any new stones.
EFF that, two surgeries, both with anesthetia, two in-office scans, $1,500+ in co-pays and a shit ton of bad behavior when I came out of surgeries--that hospital does not want me back.

[Don Rickles]

Thank you everyone! Got an appointment today ....I'm going in:faint:

[Onebadcad]

Thank you everyone! Got an appointment today ....I'm going in:faint:

Do not allow, under any condition(s), to allow them to do the finger probe!!

[Don Rickles]

Do not allow, under any condition(s), to allow them to do the finger probe!!

My doc is a female quite attractive. Hope she does

[DJ_Critterus]

My doc is a female quite attractive. Hope she does

:skep: umm... your ghey is showing.

[Don Rickles]

:skep: umm... your ghey is showing.

Oh yes, she has my permission to check me over! :yesnod:

[CurtP]

Pfft…

[KenHorse]

Was on BP meds until last year, after I lost 40 lbs. BP now 127/72 with no meds but I do have bradycardia

[Don Rickles]

Was on BP meds until last year, after I lost 40 lbs. BP now 127/72 with no meds but I do have bradycardia
:seasix:
Never had a weight issue.

Just under 6' @ 190...

[justaguy]

My doc is a female quite attractive. Hope she does



Oooh yer a naughty naughty man! :rofl::rofl:

[Bruze]

Will this cause one to become a fat singing dancer at work?
AMHMU0YPFEc

Ha, no, you will LOSE weight.

I went from around 170 to 153-155 in three months. I didn't want or need to lose any, but that's part of it -- you will lose excess body fat, even if you don't think you have any.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat, carbohydrates make you fat.

[KenHorse]

:seasix:
Never had a weight issue.

Just under 6' @ 190...

I hear continued cocaine use can increase one's baseline BP

[69camfrk]

My BP went apeshit when I was still in the military around 2007. Never had a problem, and out of the blue..problems. I was working out and in shape too. Long story short, been on meds ever since.

[DJ_Critterus]

So, what's the deal? Are the docs going to let Rickles live or put him down like a lame horse?

[PLRX]

I thought this was BP oils. I sold all those stocks.

[Don Rickles]

So, what's the deal? Are the docs going to let Rickles live or put him down like a lame horse?

Thanks for your concern!

So there was a bit of confusion when I went to the appointment…..

They had a really difficult time locating my records? The young girl checking me in had to pull out the records from the files. She returns and says that my last BP readings on file showed 0/0 and that I was dead dated from 2017. She said I didn’t have a heart so no meds!

So I left feeling much better!

[Bruze]

Thanks for your concern!

So there was a bit of confusion when I went to the appointment…..

They had a really difficult time locating my records? The young girl checking me in had to pull out the records from the files. She returns and says that my last BP readings on file showed 0/0 and that I was dead dated from 2017. She said I didn’t have a heart so no meds!

So I left feeling much better!

So this thread was just a spoof! https://i.imgur.com/jkx6Zdo.gif


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[slewfoot]

Couple years back I had some sharp pains. Coworker took me to the ER. The stupid part of it was the triage nurse takes my BP which is normally 110/80ish.

So, in addition to her asking what's up, I told her and my bp was 175over something, I don't remember. The nurse then asks, "are you taking anything for your high blood pressure?"

[Don Rickles]

So, what's the deal? Are the docs going to let Rickles live or put him down like a lame horse?
Rickles is dead but I will be ok! I do really appreciate the PM's and this post coming from you! My sincerest thanks!:yesnod::seasix:
So this thread was just a spoof!


:cert:
Nope, my BP is a bit high but not to worry. She (the doc) found that I have an inner ear infection and inflammation, combined with seasonal allergies. This caused the symptoms, it made me hear my heartbeat in my ears, along with the vertigo and dizziness. So to add to my problem, my sleep has been affected this left me with the fatigue and exhausted feeling. Still not 100% but improved with the meds!

Thank god no BP meds yet!!!

But remember, I worry.:D

[Vette40th]

You have been great advice, and I have been there done that. 28mm stent, 99% block in LDA.
Dont screw around with it. I was only 53 when I had mine put in, and I was in good shape too.

[Bruze]

Rickles is dead but I will be ok! I do really appreciate the PM's and this post coming from you! My sincerest thanks!:yesnod::seasix:

:cert:
Nope, my BP is a bit high but not to worry. She (the doc) found that I have an inner ear infection and inflammation, combined with seasonal allergies. This caused the symptoms, it made me hear my heartbeat in my ears, along with the vertigo and dizziness. So to add to my problem, my sleep has been affected this left me with the fatigue and exhausted feeling. Still not 100% but improved with the meds!

Thank god no BP meds yet!!!

But remember, I worry.:D

:cert:

I take my BP daily, and I recently found out that OTC cold meds (especially the decongestant) were raising it significantly. When I went off the meds, pressure went back down in a day or two.

It's usually like 110/65 (with meds).

[Vette40th]

:cert:

I take my BP daily, and I recently found out that OTC cold meds (especially the decongestant) were raising it significantly. When I went off the meds, pressure went back down in a day or two.

It's usually like 110/65 (with meds).
I use this for colds
https://www.coricidinhbp.com

[NoOne]

I went to the ER with super high BP year before last.

They gave me some super-duper meds which didn't put a dent in it. Put me in the ICU to give me some more super-duper meds which require constant monitoring.

Still no better. Army of doctors around me and decided to do some scan that I had to take some liquid glow in the dark stuff since my stomach was bothering me.

I told them I am very sensitive to that stuff, but they swore it would not bother me.

15 minutes later, code brown with some spectacular fireworks.

Walk out of the bathroom, 117/75.

Never happened again. Said I was the only patient to be admitted to the ICU and walk out the same day.

[Vette40th]

I went to the ER with super high BP year before last.

They gave me some super-duper meds which didn't put a dent in it. Put me in the ICU to give me some more super-duper meds which require constant monitoring.

Still no better. Army of doctors around me and decided to do some scan that I had to take some liquid glow in the dark stuff since my stomach was bothering me.

I told them I am very sensitive to that stuff, but they swore it would not bother me.

15 minutes later, code brown with some spectacular fireworks.

Walk out of the bathroom, 117/75.

Never happened again. Said I was the only patient to be admitted to the ICU and walk out the same day.
What the heck did they give you?

[Onebadcad]

You have been great advice, and I have been there done that. 28mm stent, 99% block in LDA.
Dont screw around with it. I was only 53 when I had mine put in, and I was in good shape too.

Unfortunately you cannot mitigate genetics.

When I was diagnosed with HBP, I agreed to every test they wanted to do, and then a few repeats.
I also altered my lifestyle to reduce all stress, which was already low.
I have always been physically active, never overweight, not a drinker or smoker.

In the end they found ZERO, advised I was just unlikely, said I should have done a better job picking my parents.

[Vette40th]

Unfortunately you cannot mitigate genetics.

When I was diagnosed with HBP, I agreed to every test they wanted to do, and then a few repeats.
I also altered my lifestyle to reduce all stress, which was already low.
I have always been physically active, never overweight, not a drinker or smoker.

In the end they found ZERO, advised I was just unlikely, said I should have done a better job picking my parents.
Being aware of it is a priority.
When I went through all tests, MRI, CT, Stress etc I passed too. But, my cardiologist said he felt a heart cath was needed, due to BP.
Sure enough, blockage. But, I have 3 arteries vice two. Imagine that. And I already had little veins? that had gone around the blockage. That was one reason he said I was in good, technically may not be, cardio shape.

[Vette40th]

Also, low dose Aspirin is always a good thing

[Bruze]

I use this for colds
https://www.coricidinhbp.com

Mine went from low (110/65) to mostly average (124-74. All numbers are averages of 3 daily checks over 5 days). So it never really got "high." But it was noticeable and I was curious.

So I looked it up and several sites said that the standard decongestant in cold meds (don' remember what the name is) could raise BP.

I'm trying to get off the meds completely (or reduce the dose) with diet so I'm keeping a close eye on it every day.

[Bruze]

Also, low dose Aspirin is always a good thing

In recent years the med bureaucracy (FWIW) has backed away from that.

[Vette40th]

In recent years the med bureaucracy (FWIW) has backed away from that.

Really. Then why is my damn cardiologist keeping me on it..
Uggh.
I am on Micardis and Amlodopine ( causes constipation due to a lot going number one, so I have to drink extra fluids). ( I have low heart rate, so my meds are a little different)

[Taurus]

I went to the ER with HBP and chest pains in 2006, left with a prescription for BP meds and less a gall bladder. No problems with either since. :seasix:

[Onebadcad]

Four key items to lower your BP:

1) Spend very little time on things other than family, finances and health
2) Never answer your cell phone, as caller usually wants money, or MORE money
3) Avoid liberals, they only spew untruths, and then end up cussing you out
4) Never, EVER become a dolphins fan, NEVER!!