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markids77
03-18-2024, 7:39pm
Trump unable to secure the $454 million bond?
Discuss.

Yadkin
03-18-2024, 7:46pm
I'm not following the news. At all. I assume that they'll throw him in prison. That will gain him another 10 million votes.

markids77
03-18-2024, 7:49pm
I'm not following the news. At all. I assume that they'll throw him in prison. That will gain him another 10 million votes.

He's appealing the decision, no jail time as yet; BUT if he fails to come up with the cash the State can potentially seize real property and liquidate it immediately if I understand the ruling properly.

Yadkin
03-18-2024, 7:55pm
He's appealing the decision, no jail time as yet; BUT if he fails to come up with the cash the State can potentially seize real property and liquidate it immediately if I understand the ruling properly.

I assume that this is NY? If so and they take Trump Tower it will be a good way to get out of that shithole forever. And if he announces just that he'll get another few million votes.

Vandelay Industries
03-18-2024, 8:20pm
Seems like the start of an 8th amendment argument.

gs568
03-18-2024, 8:29pm
Seems like the start of an 8th amendment argument.

Absolutely.

markids77
03-18-2024, 8:30pm
Seems like the start of an 8th amendment argument.

Might just be an exercise in semantics, but an adjudication is neither a punishment nor a fine.... and I recall candidate Trump stating he was wealthy enough to fund his campaign solely out of pocket... likely to cost more than 400 or so mil these days.

Vandelay Industries
03-18-2024, 8:44pm
Might just be an exercise in semantics, but an adjudication is neither a punishment nor a fine.... and I recall candidate Trump stating he was wealthy enough to fund his campaign solely out of pocket... likely to cost more than 400 or so mil these days.

A fraud case where nobody was defrauded. Of course the entire sideshow was meant to be a punishment. It's very likely that the "damages" will be greatly reduced or overturned completely on appeal. That matters not to the judge and prosecution as the goal of the exercise was election interference.

SurfnSun
03-18-2024, 8:58pm
I’ve always thought that Trump grossly exaggerated his net worth. Not being able to secure the needed funds isn’t surprising to me.

He is being ruined by our corrupt govt. I really hope he wins now. Retribution is coming…

KenHorse
03-18-2024, 8:59pm
Trump unable to secure the $454 million bond?
Discuss.

Maybe lenders don't want to become targeted by the criminal Biden?

Yadkin
03-18-2024, 9:11pm
I’ve always thought that Trump grossly exaggerated his net worth. Not being able to secure the needed funds isn’t surprising to me.

He is being ruined by our corrupt govt. I really hope he wins now. Retribution is coming…

When you're that wealthy most of it is tied up to make more. It's not sitting in a bank account. And selling large assets takes time; rushing it will only decrease its value "bigly".

KenHorse
03-18-2024, 10:06pm
When you're that wealthy most of it is tied up to make more. It's not sitting in a bank account. And selling large assets takes time; rushing it will only decrease its value "bigly".

Exactly correct. Those who think billionaires have 100's of millions in liquid assets are ignorant fools

ZipZap
03-18-2024, 10:34pm
Would you help him post bond in NYC?:rofl:

Even the crazy bonds people won't do this. This is not one of those only lose bond money if you flee, this is up to court judgment in NYC.

If I was him, I'd liquidate in NY and dump yet another few hundred thousand square feet of business space on that place.

cptlo306
03-18-2024, 10:39pm
Didn't someone start a GoFundMe for him?

cptlo306
03-18-2024, 10:42pm
98657


:rofl:

Torqaholic
03-18-2024, 11:51pm
... if he fails to come up with the cash the State can potentially seize real property and liquidate it immediately if I understand the ruling properly.

Saw an article debating which property to take in order to do the most damage to him possible.

Bill
03-19-2024, 12:15am
Would you help him post bond in NYC?:rofl:

Even the crazy bonds people won't do this. This is not one of those only lose bond money if you flee, this is up to court judgment in NYC.

If I was him, I'd liquidate in NY and dump yet another few hundred thousand square feet of business space on that place.

He tries to sell now, he sells at fire sale prices. They seize his assets in NYC and sell them, it's also at fire sale prices, and then when he wins on appeal, oops, sorry, buildings have already been sold, can't get them back.

Bill
03-19-2024, 12:20am
98657


:rofl:


Clever, but this "criminal theory" could be used against anyone who has ever bought a house and obtained a mortgage. It's frightening.

zsr22
03-19-2024, 5:42am
First he was too rich. Now he's not rich enough. The left will stop at nothing to destroy him.

Yadkin
03-19-2024, 6:47am
Exactly correct. Those who think billionaires have 100's of millions in liquid assets are ignorant fools

In other words, most Democrats.

Frankie the Fink
03-19-2024, 7:43am
Saw an article debating which property to take in order to do the most damage to him possible.

I just don't know when the insanity stops; 1/2 billion for opinions on a mortgage application and nobody was defrauded - I can't believe there isn't an appeal route and what happened to "cruel and unusual" punishment ?

I've quit reading a lot of the lawfare news; its such blatant persecution of one man its criminal. And you should look at a video montage of all the times that James b1tch campaigned on "get Trump".

But yeah, who is going to loan 1/2 billion to a person that an entire government machines are trying to destroy.?

slewfoot
03-19-2024, 9:11am
Clever, but this "criminal theory" could be used against anyone who has ever bought a house and obtained a mortgage. It's frightening.


Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile

Steve_R
03-19-2024, 9:24am
Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

Where, exactly, did he cheat the government? The lenders who gave him the loans didn't sue him. He repaid the loans in full. Where is the $500M damage to the NY state government or citizens?

Onebadcad
03-19-2024, 9:33am
Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile

I wish you the very best in your final days,,,

LATB
03-19-2024, 9:36am
Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile
You are probably the dumbest mother flocker on this forum. At one point it was funny but it is now sad that someone can be this mindless and believe every ounce of propaganda that comes his way.

Onebadcad
03-19-2024, 9:50am
You are probably the dumbest mother flocker on this forum. At one point it was funny but it is now sad that someone can be this mindless and believe every ounce of propaganda that comes his way.

Try to estimate the number of dents in the back of the throat for someone who has swallowed all the msm BS since 2015.

The recent 'Bloodbath' hoax is yet another example of libidiots not being able to view a speech and decide for themselves.

Steve_R
03-19-2024, 9:56am
The recent 'Bloodbath' hoax is yet another example of libidiots not being able to view a speech and decide for themselves.

No, it's evidence of how hard the media is trying to ensure Trump doesn't win. They will stop at nothing in that quest.

6spdC6
03-19-2024, 10:00am
No, it's evidence of how hard the media is trying to ensure Trump doesn't win. They will stop at nothing in that quest.

Lenin & Stalin would be so proud!

BRUIZER
03-19-2024, 10:05am
Maybe lenders don't want to become targeted by the criminal Biden?

This!
It's the kind of devious chit commies do.

SurfnSun
03-19-2024, 10:10am
When you're that wealthy most of it is tied up to make more. It's not sitting in a bank account. And selling large assets takes time; rushing it will only decrease its value "bigly".

Exactly correct. Those who think billionaires have 100's of millions in liquid assets are ignorant fools

I don't think of myself as an ignorant fool, and as someone who has actually worked very closely with multiple billionaires over the last decade, I can tell you that most of the ones Ive been associated with could pull 500 million in a matter of hours or days if really needed. Seeing that side of the world and finance is why Im also fairly positive that Trump has grossly overstated his wealth.

Bill
03-19-2024, 10:49am
Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile

I'm trying to understand how NYS, or NYC was cheated out of anything.

What's your best case? Trump overstated the value of his assets and got more money loaned to him than should have been? He got a $ 100 loan, when in fact, he should have gotten a $ 50 loan? OK, let's go with that. How was NYS, or NYC harmed? Exactly. With the $ 100 loan, Trump was able to build a bigger building, which provides MOAR property tax, more income tax, more licensing taxes, etc. than the $ 50 loan would have provided.

Or is your case that Trump overstated the values of his collateral properties to get a lower interest rate on his loans? OK, sure. So Trump again was able to build a better, more heavily taxed building, because he saved on interest payments. And now his business has made MOAR money, so it pays MOAR taxes to NYS and NYC.

Taking either or both allegations as fact, NYS and NYC make more money from Trump, not less.....so again, I'm having trouble finding any victims here.

The banks say they were happy, loans repaid, interest paid, some even paid early. The state and the city, under any theory you want to provide, made more money on Trump's deals.

So again, when did you apply for a mortgage. Let's go back and revisit that, and have your state sue you for misstating the value of the house to your mortgage lender. I'm sure your appraiser and the bank's appraiser differed in their valuations. So let's get you sued for eleventy billion dollars, as a shot across the bow so that people like you know that if they go against the government, they'll be screwed over.

Bill
03-19-2024, 10:55am
I don't think of myself as an ignorant fool, and as someone who has actually worked very closely with multiple billionaires over the last decade, I can tell you that most of the ones Ive been associated with could pull 500 million in a matter of hours or days if really needed. Seeing that side of the world and finance is why Im also fairly positive that Trump has grossly overstated his wealth.

There's a difference between someone like Warren Buffet, who has most of his holdings in stocks and bonds. Stocks and bonds can be fairly easily traded, converted to cash.

Trump's business is asset heavy. They own buildings, golf courses, and things that can't easily just be liquidated for cash. And at this time, I can't imagine real estate in NYC commanding any kind of decent price, even if a buyer could be found. People are fleeing the shithole NYC has turned into. Would you invest in Baltimore, or Detroit? I mean, you might, but you'd be looking to buy property at fire sale prices and hope to gentrify an area or two.

SurfnSun
03-19-2024, 10:56am
[B]I'm trying to understand how NYS, or NYC was cheated out of anything.



The fact is they weren't. The banks testified on behalf of Trump stating they all got paid back.

Gov't reaching into the affairs of a private bank is a serious overreach and should frighten everyone...most are just too dumb to know better.

This whole thing was nothing but a political hit job...or lawfair as the new hot term.

SurfnSun
03-19-2024, 10:58am
There's a difference between someone like Warren Buffet, who has most of his holdings in stocks and bonds. Stocks and bonds can be fairly easily traded, converted to cash.

Trump's business is asset heavy. They own buildings, golf courses, and things that can't easily just be liquidated for cash. And at this time, I can't imagine real estate in NYC commanding any kind of decent price, even if a buyer could be found. People are fleeing the shithole NYC has turned into. Would you invest in Baltimore, or Detroit? I mean, you might, but you'd be looking to buy property at fire sale prices and hope to gentrify an area or two.

Agreed on all counts.

The reason Trump released the one year of taxes where he paid $34m was because it was a banner year for him. My guess is other years don't show nearly that much revenue or taxes paid as a result.

Ive always assumed he's asset rich and cash poor(relatively speaking).

Torqaholic
03-19-2024, 11:13am
... its such blatant persecution of one man its criminal...

:yesnod:

Yadkin
03-19-2024, 11:14am
Try to estimate the number of dents in the back of the throat for someone who has swallowed all the msm BS since 2015.

The recent 'Bloodbath' hoax is yet another example of libidiots not being able to view a speech and decide for themselves.

I saw his lengthy text and of course did not read. I would be dumber if I had.

dvarapala
03-19-2024, 12:43pm
He's appealing the decision, no jail time as yet; BUT if he fails to come up with the cash the State can potentially seize real property and liquidate it immediately if I understand the ruling properly.

Fire sale on Trump Tower and Mar-a-Lago? :popcorns:

Vandelay Industries
03-19-2024, 12:56pm
Somebody explain why a state lien on his property isn't sufficient here.

Since this is being appealed, the matter is not settled, and therefore seizing and liquidating assets is a permanent solution to what is most likely a temporary situation. I'm having a hard time believing that would be legal and constitutional...but we all know there are different rules that apply to Trump.

Vandelay Industries
03-19-2024, 12:57pm
Fire sale on Trump Tower and Mar-a-Lago? :popcorns:

What's your opening bid? :D

Vandelay Industries
03-19-2024, 1:02pm
Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile

I couldn't get all the way though that drivel. It reads like a collaboration between AOC and KJP, only dumber.

Aerovette
03-19-2024, 1:05pm
I would laugh may ass off if Musk covered him.

SurfnSun
03-19-2024, 1:22pm
I would laugh may ass off if Musk covered him.

Musk said Trump stopped by to see him last week but didn't ask for money.

roadpilot
03-19-2024, 3:05pm
I read the full text that the OP wrote. Ya know, I think he does not believe any
of his words. I think it is more for attention than anything else. So, I will
take it as just entertainment without comment.

Bill
03-19-2024, 3:25pm
Clever, but this "criminal theory" could be used against anyone who has ever bought a house and obtained a mortgage. It's frightening.

Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile

I'm trying to understand how NYS, or NYC was cheated out of anything.

What's your best case? Trump overstated the value of his assets and got more money loaned to him than should have been? He got a $ 100 loan, when in fact, he should have gotten a $ 50 loan? OK, let's go with that. How was NYS, or NYC harmed? Exactly. With the $ 100 loan, Trump was able to build a bigger building, which provides MOAR property tax, more income tax, more licensing taxes, etc. than the $ 50 loan would have provided.

Or is your case that Trump overstated the values of his collateral properties to get a lower interest rate on his loans? OK, sure. So Trump again was able to build a better, more heavily taxed building, because he saved on interest payments. And now his business has made MOAR money, so it pays MOAR taxes to NYS and NYC.

Taking either or both allegations as fact, NYS and NYC make more money from Trump, not less.....so again, I'm having trouble finding any victims here.

The banks say they were happy, loans repaid, interest paid, some even paid early. The state and the city, under any theory you want to provide, made more money on Trump's deals.

So again, when did you apply for a mortgage. Let's go back and revisit that, and have your state sue you for misstating the value of the house to your mortgage lender. I'm sure your appraiser and the bank's appraiser differed in their valuations. So let's get you sued for eleventy billion dollars, as a shot across the bow so that people like you know that if they go against the government, they'll be screwed over.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplakA42fQk

Bill
03-19-2024, 5:54pm
https://media.patriots.win/post/wATe7DAYAkhv.jpeg

Yadkin
03-19-2024, 5:56pm
I read the full text that the OP wrote. Ya know, I think he does not believe any
of his words. I think it is more for attention than anything else. So, I will
take it as just entertainment without comment.

I agree that he wants attention, but I also happen to know that he's a dumbass with no morals.

markids77
03-19-2024, 7:45pm
I read the full text that the OP wrote. Ya know, I think he does not believe any
of his words. I think it is more for attention than anything else. So, I will
take it as just entertainment without comment.

No attention whore here... I mostly wanted to see the dialogue that developed from my poke at the loyalists here. I am pleasantly surprised how civil and well considered most responses have been, except for the guy I have never met calling me idiotic and amoral. :yaddy: I am neither.

Bill
03-19-2024, 8:26pm
No attention whore here... I mostly wanted to see the dialogue that developed from my poke at the loyalists here. I am pleasantly surprised how civil and well considered most responses have been, except for the guy I have never met calling me idiotic and amoral. :yaddy: I am neither.

I could be wrong, but I think that poster was directing his comment to slewfoot, not you. I think he used OP incorrectly.

SurfnSun
03-19-2024, 9:48pm
Pretty much the same in any normal civil case after a crime such as murder, just on a larger scale. You kill/injure someone and the family comes after your assets

You cheat the government, they come after you. Trump has been demonstrating a continuous high risk for 8 years now. He cannot help himself.

I mean it's like not buying and apple from a guy who has been your close personal best friend since preschool. Trumps financial credibility is in the toilet and the world of finance can see this.

His latest verifiable rants are a bloodbath if he is not elected which is a direct threat to our democracy. A term used to intimidate and threaten voters.

Then he wants to pardon all those convicted in Jan 6 and prosecute those who put them in jail

This fkn guy has been his own worst enemy and then blames his mouth on a witch hunt or the history of our country bs. Trump is a douchebag, a moron!

This crap got him in the first time around, didn't work the 2nd time and everyone is on to his emotional detachment this time.

I'm waiting for him to announce all rapists, murderers, and the rest of them "in the history of our country" will be pardoned and will prosecute all those who put them there. :seasix:

He has brought all his troubles on himself. His past is now demanding accountability and not much if anything he can do about it. He has been and still is a very poor businessman.

Why some of you can't see this I'll never know. To elect a person that you will allow to come into your home and tell you who, what, where, when, why and how with your life and family.

This is what Dictatorship is all about.


BN2L, he's fragile

Finally read this drivel….congrats on penning one of the most idiotic things on the internet today. You have puked every false liberal talking point you could think of all at once.

This is the kind of stuff that lemmings write when they consume CNN/MSNBC 24-7.

ZipZap
03-19-2024, 10:08pm
One more time...

WHERE IS A ****ING VICTIM?

In fact, everything he did by paying back the loans was a benefit to NY.

slewfoot
03-19-2024, 10:14pm
Musk said Trump stopped by to see him last week but didn't ask for money.

And of course, since it was Trump, you believe this.

Steve_R
03-19-2024, 10:16pm
One more time...

WHERE IS A ****ING VICTIM?

In fact, everything he did by paying back the loans was a benefit to NY.

You should know by now that people with TDS, like slowfoot, don’t like facts and logic.

ZipZap
03-19-2024, 10:27pm
You should know by now that people with TDS, like slowfoot, don’t like facts and logic.

Agreed. Done with this one. Everyone that has even 1/8th of a brain can see what's going on in NY.

Bill
03-19-2024, 11:04pm
And of course, since it was Trump, you believe this.

Any thoughts about how Trump cheated NYS and NYC out of any money?

SurfnSun
03-20-2024, 5:26am
And of course, since it was Trump, you believe this.

Musk said it not Trump… so now Elon is a liar bc it doesn’t fit your desired narrative?

Olustee bus
03-20-2024, 6:11am
How much of your wealth is cash money?

roadpilot
03-20-2024, 6:23am
I could be wrong, but I think that poster was directing his comment to slewfoot, not you. I think he used OP incorrectly.

You are correct, my mistake useing OP.

Bill
03-20-2024, 6:55am
How much of your wealth is cash money?

Homegirl Fani: It depend. Sometimes, I got 15 G's. I get $ 50 cash back at Publix sometime, yo.

Mick
03-20-2024, 7:06am
I can see big banks NOT wanting to get into this mess, if for no other reason than if Trump does win on appeal, or the case gets thrown out, NY State is likely to give the finger to the Trump camp and say "We're not giving the money back, sue us."

Also, most of the big banks are trying to walk down the "woke" road, and Trump has become the symbol of "anti-woke", so acting like some kind of "white knight" (yes, I did that on purpose) will shoot their "woke" agenda in the girl-penis.

Yadkin
03-20-2024, 3:15pm
One more time...

WHERE IS A ****ING VICTIM?

In fact, everything he did by paying back the loans was a benefit to NY.

But the mean tweets.

GTOguy
03-20-2024, 4:22pm
I can see big banks NOT wanting to get into this mess, if for no other reason than if Trump does win on appeal, or the case gets thrown out, NY State is likely to give the finger to the Trump camp and say "We're not giving the money back, sue us."

Also, most of the big banks are trying to walk down the "woke" road, and Trump has become the symbol of "anti-woke", so acting like some kind of "white knight" (yes, I did that on purpose) will shoot their "woke" agenda in the girl-penis.

Had a local guy here who handles billions of dollars in real estate deals as an attorney state that what Trump did is common, daily practice. You present a prospective project for a development, apply for a loan to cover projected costs (no formal estimate) and the bank looks at your past credit history and decides weather or not to float you the loan and at what rate. NOT a crime. Just business as usual. The way the Democrats are prosecuting our free citizens is truly alarming. I see a civil war coming. Working people are fed up with this selective, discriminatory, socialist agenda. And the lies. "January 6". "Russian Collusion". "Joe and Hunter never said a word to each other on the 11 hour flight to China." "Guns kill, not people". And on and on. How can Democrats be so ****ing STUPID?

Aerovette
03-20-2024, 4:41pm
Civil Polite society
Hippies and anti war demonstrations
Civil unrest
Progress in equal rights
People getting along for the most part. Some isolated incidents
Obama elected
Country starts downhill slide
Trump elected
Country starts to recover
Civil unrest
Biden selected
Country goes to shit <<<< We are here.
Total anarchy
Military control of citizens
Constitution burned

SurfnSun
03-20-2024, 5:51pm
Civil Polite society
Hippies and anti war demonstrations
Civil unrest
Progress in equal rights
People getting along for the most part. Some isolated incidents
Obama elected
Country starts downhill slide
Trump elected
Country starts to recover
Civil unrest
Biden selected
Country goes to shit <<<< We are here.
Total anarchy
Military control of citizens
Constitution burned

Your forgot one

Globalism & one world government

Mick
03-20-2024, 6:04pm
Had a local guy here who handles billions of dollars in real estate deals as an attorney state that what Trump did is common, daily practice. You present a prospective project for a development, apply for a loan to cover projected costs (no formal estimate) and the bank looks at your past credit history and decides weather or not to float you the loan and at what rate. NOT a crime. Just business as usual. The way the Democrats are prosecuting our free citizens is truly alarming. I see a civil war coming. Working people are fed up with this selective, discriminatory, socialist agenda. And the lies. "January 6". "Russian Collusion". "Joe and Hunter never said a word to each other on the 11 hour flight to China." "Guns kill, not people". And on and on. How can Democrats be so ****ing STUPID?

The Dem politicians are not stupid, they are doing what they are doing on purpose. They rely on the fact that the folks who vote for them are literally booger-picking morons. Unfortunately in this regard, they have their facts right.