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My little 20V Dewalt isn't up to the tasks around here. I'm thinking of upgrading to an Echo CS-2511pn. "Lightest rear handle."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-12-in-25-0-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-X-Series-Rear-Handle-Chainsaw-with-Low-Vibration-SpeedCut-Nano-80TXL-Cutting-System-CS-2511PN-12/326294714
lrobe22
03-16-2024, 9:23pm
Put down the granny saw and go for this
https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/professional-saws/ms661magnum/?aqid=dbb6c2057a78960ea9b0cc2b3522b405
BTDT. At age 64, I need something a lot lighter, and can hire the guy for the bigger shit.
lrobe22
03-16-2024, 9:30pm
here's a light weight option
https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/farm-and-ranch-saws/ms271/
GrandSportC3
03-16-2024, 9:30pm
I have the 14" Echo chain saw. Works good and is reliable.
here's a light weight option
https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/farm-and-ranch-saws/ms271/
Three times heavier. Thanks for your help.
I have the 14" Echo chain saw. Works good and is reliable.
They make about 7 that size, so ...
ratflinger
03-16-2024, 9:44pm
Pfft - I'm 69 and can still easily run my MS260 with an 18" bar
Kevin68
03-16-2024, 9:50pm
I have an Echo CS-2510…the dealer version where you can actually buy filters, spark plugs and decent chains. I also have a 4510 but that is relegated to big stuff. The 2510 is a real back saver and easily used with one hand if clearing tangles of branches. When I bought it I was told it was their most popular saw with the tree trimmers. Easy start every time. Go to a real equipment store. The place I went to sells both Stihl and Echo and if you don’t have a bias, Echo is their favorite for low repairs and easy strart. The 2510 is pricey, about the same as a 4510. Best Chain saw I’ve ever had.
I have a Stihl MS251. Good machine.
I actually want a small light weight battery saw for light work and trimming.
My little 20V Dewalt isn't up to the tasks around here. I'm thinking of upgrading to an Echo CS-2511pn. "Lightest rear handle."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-12-in-25-0-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-X-Series-Rear-Handle-Chainsaw-with-Low-Vibration-SpeedCut-Nano-80TXL-Cutting-System-CS-2511PN-12/326294714
I bought an Echo over 20 years ago, don't remember what model it is, but it's been a great saw, cut a lot of firewood with it. Starts good cold or hot, never had any trouble with it. I had a McCullough before that, it was a POS.
Don't use the Echo too much anymore though, too old, I buy all my firewood. :shrug:
Swany00
03-16-2024, 10:28pm
3 husqvarna's, 14", 18" and 24" and a husqvarna pole saw
higgyburners
03-17-2024, 1:44am
Put down the granny saw and go for this
https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/professional-saws/ms661magnum/?aqid=dbb6c2057a78960ea9b0cc2b3522b405
Pfft - I'm 69 and can still easily run my MS260 with an 18" bar
Stihl is a man's saw...do not expect Yad's puny little arms to be able to handle a man's saw ......:rofl:
98537
For short bars like this you find a top handle saw easier to handle in more situations.
I have an Echo CS-2510…the dealer version where you can actually buy filters, spark plugs and decent chains. I also have a 4510 but that is relegated to big stuff. The 2510 is a real back saver and easily used with one hand if clearing tangles of branches. When I bought it I was told it was their most popular saw with the tree trimmers. Easy start every time. Go to a real equipment store. The place I went to sells both Stihl and Echo and if you don’t have a bias, Echo is their favorite for low repairs and easy strart. The 2510 is pricey, about the same as a 4510. Best Chain saw I’ve ever had.
Normally I would buy from a dealer but I have a $190 store credit at Home Depot that I'd like to use. They sell the entire Echo line, including the pro series that I'm considering, 2511pn.
They don't make the 2510 anymore. Looks like the 2511 is its successor.
For short bars like this you find a top handle saw easier to handle in more situations.
I have no experience with a top handle saw, which is actually 1/2# lighter. I need to cut some small trees, 6-10" range Also a few larger stumps close to the ground. Tell me your experience doing that with a top handle.
I bought an Echo over 20 years ago, don't remember what model it is, but it's been a great saw, cut a lot of firewood with it. Starts good cold or hot, never had any trouble with it. I had a McCullough before that, it was a POS.
Don't use the Echo too much anymore though, too old, I buy all my firewood. :shrug:
I had a 20" McCullough since the late 80's. It was a decent saw but wouldn't start when hot. I replaced the oiler after thirty years and had to find NOS parts on ebay. Two years ago something else broke so I gave it away on Nextdoor "for parts only".
The last time I used it my back hurt for several days. But the Dewalt 20V I bought for small tasks is really only good for 3" or less.
I have a Stihl MS251. Good machine.
I actually want a small light weight battery saw for light work and trimming.
Frankly my Dewalt 20V sawzall with a tree blade does mostly what my Dewalt 20V chainsaw will do.
3 husqvarna's, 14", 18" and 24" and a husqvarna pole saw
I have one of their backpack leaf blowers and it's a nice machine. :seasix:
Vette40th
03-17-2024, 7:36am
Three times heavier. Thanks for your help.
12 lbs, like carrying a AR15 loaded.. maybe a couple pounds more.
Don Rickles
03-17-2024, 7:39am
Stihl..../
I had a 20" McCullough since the late 80's. It was a decent saw but wouldn't start when hot. I replaced the oiler after thirty years and had to find NOS parts on ebay. Two years ago something else broke so I gave it away on Nextdoor "for parts only".
The last time I used it my back hurt for several days. But the Dewalt 20V I bought for small tasks is really only good for 3" or less.
My McC, which I bought new in the '70s, eventually started hard hot or cold, couldn't get parts for it anymore. It cut fine once it was running.
I ended up taking it to the dumps after I got the Echo. :eek:
But if you have a small penis, are lacking testosterone, and love to follow fads, buy a Stihl. :Jeff '79:
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But if you have a small penis, are lacking testosterone, and love to follow fads, buy a Stihl. :Jeff '79:
Stihl..../
:waiting:
Don Rickles
03-17-2024, 8:39am
:waiting:
Well, it'd take a 20" chainsaw to chop down my woodie! :yesnod:
04 commemorative
03-17-2024, 8:41am
Have 2 Sears 14" gas chain saws (at daughters house) 40 years old and still going strong.
Don Rickles
03-17-2024, 8:42am
My little 20V Dewalt isn't up to the tasks around here. I'm thinking of upgrading to an Echo CS-2511pn. "Lightest rear handle."
Just wait til GTO sees this!
slewfoot
03-17-2024, 8:58am
My little 20V Dewalt isn't up to the tasks around here. I'm thinking of upgrading to an Echo CS-2511pn. "Lightest rear handle."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-12-in-25-0-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-X-Series-Rear-Handle-Chainsaw-with-Low-Vibration-SpeedCut-Nano-80TXL-Cutting-System-CS-2511PN-12/326294714
https://i.imgur.com/7LaBne7.jpg
You going to make a purchase like that with a 1 Star rating? Apparently because nobody has purchased one
Should get the Husqvarna 550.
https://www.amazon.com/Husqvarna-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-550Xp/dp/B09RQ4TV4V/ref=asc_df_B09RQ4TV4V?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80264479385336&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583863999720663&psc=1
Well, it'd take a 20" chainsaw to chop down my woodie! :yesnod:
https://i.ibb.co/bQQYH2q/smiley-laughing0241.gif
I have a 20'' Steihl and due to health problems its getting harder to pull start. Its no problem when I get it running, it does anything I want it to do. (been running a chain saw for 60 years!)
Now at my age and health I'm looking to make my life easier. I do not do large projects around here, so about the only thing I need a chain saw for is taking care of a tree/branch that falls and blocks my driveway. Any serious tree work my son helps me or if a big job I hire a local contractor, up here where I live there are plenty.:D
I'm thinking of giving the saw to my son and get a battery powered for as described above. Other than being much easier to start I do not have to worry about gas going bad either.
Don Rickles
03-17-2024, 9:14am
If you can't pick up the saw, how the hell are going to move or pick up the wood......:slap:
If you can't pick up the saw, how the hell are going to move or pick up the wood......:slap:
If this was for me, I have no problem doing that, my problem is starting it! (Other 2 stroke tools also)
I have a shoulder that needs surgery. I have always started by holding the saw in left hand (side with bad shoulder) and using my right to pull start.
I know thats not the recommended method but I have done it that way all my life, old/bad habits are hard to fix!
My hope is to get by as best I can and not have the surgery. At my age I realy do not want the kind of surgery
If this was for me, I have no problem doing that, my problem is starting it! (Other 2 stroke tools also)
I have a shoulder that needs surgery. I have always started by holding the saw in left hand (side with bad shoulder) and using my right to pull start.
I know thats not the recommended method but I have done it that way all my life, old/bad habits are hard to fix!
My hope is to get by as best I can and not have the surgery. At my age I realy do not want the kind of surgery
When I had rotator cuff pain in early 2021, I could barely function much less run a chain saw. But as time went on, and I did PT, my shoulder started improving.
In August-September no way could I start the saw. I'd put my foot across the lower handle and pull with both hands, but couldn't summon enough power to even pull past one compression. But once we got into October, I could start it fine as the shoulder problem had mostly gone away.
Home PT, every 2-3 days, helped more than anything. And now, when I feel a bit of pain coming, I'll do them again but it often goes maybe 3 weeks before I need it.
Good luck, old timer! :seasix:
slewfoot
03-17-2024, 9:51am
I have a 20'' Steihl and due to health problems its getting harder to pull start. Its no problem when I get it running, it does anything I want it to do. (been running a chain saw for 60 years!)
Now at my age and health I'm looking to make my life easier. I do not do large projects around here, so about the only thing I need a chain saw for is taking care of a tree/branch that falls and blocks my driveway. Any serious tree work my son helps me or if a big job I hire a local contractor, up here where I live there are plenty.:D
I'm thinking of giving the saw to my son and get a battery powered for as described above. Other than being much easier to start I do not have to worry about gas going bad either.
I'm 68 with moderate Rheumatoid Arthritis. It seems to be under control with weekly Enbrel pen shots but I have to watch what I'm doing. I installed all new cabinets in the kitchen. Kind of got to plan ahead a bit.
Had one of those flat dolly's with casters on the bottom from Harbor freight to move them around. Borrowed some cabinet jacks. Sent pics to my son who said wtf are you doing and who helped? Well, nobody with the right equipment.
Only chainsaw I ever owned was a Poulan years ago. If I were to get one with a Battery, I would get a warranty with it or this idea.
https://www.costco.com/chain-saws.html
When I had rotator cuff pain in early 2021, I could barely function much less run a chain saw. But as time went on, and I did PT, my shoulder started improving.
In August-September no way could I start the saw. I'd put my foot across the lower handle and pull with both hands, but couldn't summon enough power to even pull past one compression. But once we got into October, I could start it fine as the shoulder problem had mostly gone away.
Home PT, every 2-3 days, helped more than anything. And now, when I feel a bit of pain coming, I'll do them again but it often goes maybe 3 weeks before I need it.
Good luck, old timer! :seasix:
:seasix: ****Just to clarify Did you have the surgery or just do PT?***
The ortho doc recommended surgery. If I can get better (not perfect just better) on just PT that I would do.
I fell 22' in 1977 and fractured that shoulder,(Among a bunch more injuries) now after all these years its coming back to haunt me.
Thanks, Dave
I'm 68 with moderate Rheumatoid Arthritis. It seems to be under control with weekly Enbrel pen shots but I have to watch what I'm doing. I installed all new cabinets in the kitchen. Kind of got to plan ahead a bit.
Had one of those flat dolly's with casters on the bottom from Harbor freight to move them around. Borrowed some cabinet jacks. Sent pics to my son who said wtf are you doing and who helped? Well, nobody with the right equipment.
Only chainsaw I ever owned was a Poulan years ago. If I were to get one with a Battery, I would get a warranty with it or this idea.
https://www.costco.com/chain-saws.html
Thanks, all advice welcomed!:seasix:
slewfoot
03-17-2024, 10:08am
:seasix: ****Just to clarify Did you have the surgery or just do PT?***
The ortho doc recommended surgery. If I can get better (not perfect just better) on just PT that I would do.
I fell 22' in 1977 and fractured that shoulder,(Among a bunch more injuries) now after all these years its coming back to haunt me.
Thanks, Dave
Everyone is obviously different. My Ortho Doc replaced both hips and did arthroscopic on both knees 4 years ago. Been pretty good since but both shoulders had serious pain.
About a year & a half ago, he started giving me steroid shot in each shoulder. Felt great but only lasted 3-4 months.
Well, last summer I had a nasty flare of Arthrits. Long story short and after a sht load of blood tests, the Humira I had been taking for years was no longer working.
My Rheumatologist switch to Enbrel and I have been pretty good since and the bonus is my shoulders also. No more steroid shots. Ortho Dr said this was great and go with it.
6spdC6
03-17-2024, 10:37am
Yadkin, my sincere apologies. I did not mean to hijack your thread!-:cert:
GTOguy
03-17-2024, 10:44am
Solid Yadkin thread. I have nothing to contribute but well-wishes.
Thought of Yaddie yesterday while watching a truck crash compilation on youtube. A Midnight Blue Macan cut in front of an 18 wheeler and brake checked it at about 65 mph. The Macan ended up getting pushed forward, sideways, for short distance before veering off onto the shoulder and flipping over on its lid. Those side airbags on the new vehicles really are a game changer. Carry on...
Yadkin
03-17-2024, 10:55am
3 husqvarna's, 14", 18" and 24" and a husqvarna pole saw
The lightest Husqvarna is their T525 (https://www.husqvarna.com/us/chainsaws/t525/), at 5.95# "excl. cutting equipment". I assume that means the bar and chain. It's also a top handle.
The Echo 2511TN (https://www.echo-usa.com/chainsaws/cs-2511tn)is 5.2#. I assume that includes the bar and chain.
Yadkin
03-17-2024, 11:00am
Yadkin, my sincere apologies. I did not mean to hijack your thread!-:cert:
Thanks, but I'm kinda used to it. :Jeff '79:
Yadkin
03-17-2024, 11:04am
Solid Yadkin thread. I have nothing to contribute but well-wishes.
Thought of Yaddie yesterday while watching a truck crash compilation on youtube. A Midnight Blue Macan cut in front of an 18 wheeler and brake checked it at about 65 mph. The Macan ended up getting pushed forward, sideways, for short distance before veering off onto the shoulder and flipping over on its lid. Those side airbags on the new vehicles really are a game changer. Carry on...
I've never brake checked anyone. It's the most asinine thing that anyone can do on the highway.
There's a guy here who drives a mini. He came out of the Food Lion parking lot right in front of me, in the Ranger, and I had the cruise control set at 3-over. The guy drove slow then brake-checked me. Against my better judgement I did him the courtesy of touching my brakes- otherwise he would have been shot forward into oncoming traffic.
Since then I've seen him twice more, once brake-checking a truck on the same two lane road. That asshole has a death wish.
Don Rickles
03-17-2024, 11:13am
If this was for me, I have no problem doing that, my problem is starting it! (Other 2 stroke tools also)
I have a shoulder that needs surgery. I have always started by holding the saw in left hand (side with bad shoulder) and using my right to pull start.
I know thats not the recommended method but I have done it that way all my life, old/bad habits are hard to fix!
My hope is to get by as best I can and not have the surgery. At my age I realy do not want the kind of surgery
Was meant for the OP, but since you're able to lift, I could always use the muscle!:D
:seasix: ****Just to clarify Did you have the surgery or just do PT?***
The ortho doc recommended surgery. If I can get better (not perfect just better) on just PT that I would do.
I fell 22' in 1977 and fractured that shoulder,(Among a bunch more injuries) now after all these years its coming back to haunt me.
Thanks, Dave
I was diagnosed by an ortho and my primary with having tendonitis in my shoulders (inflammation of the tendons) and arthritis in my wrists. I had a cortisone shot in my right shoulder and right wrist, which were huge improvements. My left wrist and shoulder never got quite as bad, so I suffered through the left side without any shots.
After a month or so I also had achy legs (not sharp pain as above) and some pain in my feet. The blood test in the beginning showed inflammation markers.
After a bunch of reading, I concluded that I had systemic inflammation, but my doc poo-pooed that idea. They either don't want to deal with that, or don't know what to do about it. Most of medicine is about addressing symptoms with drugs or surgery, no digging to find and correct the actual cause.
My right wrist and shoulder extreme pain came on literally overnight, left side a week or so later. It got worse but started to stabilize within about 3-4 months, started to get better, and gradually disappeared within around 8 months (all this is why I abandoned my business and retired in 2021).
Who ever heard of osteoarthritis coming on suddenly, and then disappearing within a year? But my doc stuck to that diagnosis.
Early on I went to PT, and they really helped with my shoulders, but not wrists. I still do those (stretching and strengthening) exercises at home, along with a few others that I picked up online.
So far, so good.
Sorry Yaddy :( for derailing . . .
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GTOguy
03-17-2024, 11:25am
I've never brake checked anyone. It's the most asinine thing that anyone can do on the highway.
There's a guy here who drives a mini. He came out of the Food Lion parking lot right in front of me, in the Ranger, and I had the cruise control set at 3-over. The guy drove slow then brake-checked me. Against my better judgement I did him the courtesy of touching my brakes- otherwise he would have been shot forward into oncoming traffic.
Since then I've seen him twice more, once brake-checking a truck on the same two lane road. That asshole has a death wish.
The car reminded me of you, not the action. If you cut someone off you would speed up and get out of the way. You're not an impeder. Not your style.
Food Lion. LOL. May as well call it Glutton's. When I was in SC in '21 we went there and I was blown away by the name, but also by the prices. Food was literally 50% the cost as it was in CA. One reason the friends I was visiting had moved to Pawley's Island from Sacramento, CA!
Years ago there was a liquor store called 'The Liquor Trough'. Same deal. Hilarious.
Yadkin
03-17-2024, 11:31am
The car reminded me of you, not the action. If you cut someone off you would speed up and get out of the way. You're not an impeder. Not your style.
Food Lion. LOL. May as well call it Glutton's. When I was in SC in '21 we went there and I was blown away by the name, but also by the prices. Food was literally 50% the cost as it was in CA. One reason the friends I was visiting had moved to Pawley's Island from Sacramento, CA!
Years ago there was a liquor store called 'The Liquor Trough'. Same deal. Hilarious.
Here we have Lowes Foods for the Floridiots and Linvillians. Prices are at least 50% more than Food Lizard. And the bathroom at Food Lion is a lot cleaner. :seasix:
But on Thursdays, Lowes has 1/2 price draft beers. Get there early to get a seat...
MadInNc
03-17-2024, 12:04pm
Here we have Lowes Foods for the Floridiots and Linvillians. Prices are at least 50% more than Food Lizard. And the bathroom at Food Lion is a lot cleaner. :seasix:
But on Thursdays, Lowes has 1/2 price draft beers. Get there early to get a seat...
Don’t forget Harris Twatter. Even worse than Lowes on $$$. Food Lizard (like the new name) is decent except for meat, chicken good red meat bad from there. Cheaper grades…..
markids77
03-17-2024, 1:39pm
Food Lizard (like the new name) is decent except for meat, chicken good red meat bad from there. Cheaper grades…..
It is impossible to sear red meat from the Food Kitty; they pump it full of water.
Waldo World is worse though... they use "solution" to add weight but not value.
Don’t forget Harris Twatter. Even worse than Lowes on $$$. Food Lizard (like the new name) is decent except for meat, chicken good red meat bad from there. Cheaper grades…..
I did two renovation jobs for Lowes Inc. in the Winston-Salem area several years ago, including the new facade at their Clemmons store. This was when they started with the "local" theme. It was evident that they wanted to be the next Wegmans, which is up in the NE.
We're trying to cut down on beef since the start of the FBJ era. When I do by beef at Food Lizard, I tend to buy the Spring Crossing Cattle Company brand. It's a little pricey, but nicely trimmed in smaller packages.
I've decided on the Echo 2511pn, rear handle. Home Depot won't oder one over the phone or online using my store credit, dumb bastages. So I'll try to buy from a local dealer.
RED-85-Z51
03-19-2024, 9:50pm
My little 20V Dewalt isn't up to the tasks around here. I'm thinking of upgrading to an Echo CS-2511pn. "Lightest rear handle."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-12-in-25-0-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-X-Series-Rear-Handle-Chainsaw-with-Low-Vibration-SpeedCut-Nano-80TXL-Cutting-System-CS-2511PN-12/326294714
2511t is a badass saw. You have to consider, echo uses extremely hard rings and cylinder coatings, it will take a few tanks for it to "wake up"...and really Gallup. I pull the carb limiters and drill a 5/16 hole in the muffler outlet, retune them and go with the 16" bar, hell of a pocket rocket
higgyburners
03-19-2024, 10:01pm
I've decided on the Echo 2511pn, rear handle. Home Depot won't oder one over the phone or online using my store credit, dumb bastages. So I'll try to buy from a local dealer.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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GTOguy
03-20-2024, 11:29am
I've decided on the Echo 2511pn, rear handle. Home Depot won't oder one over the phone or online using my store credit, dumb bastages. So I'll try to buy from a local dealer.
Rear handle for the win. :dance:
6spdC6
03-20-2024, 12:22pm
Rear handle for the win. :dance:
Used many different kinds of chainsaws over the years. All have been rear handle.-:D
Yaddy, here's my Echo, model CS-5000. Don't remember what size bar it has:
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98719
Used many different kinds of chainsaws over the years. All have been rear handle.-:D
I've never heard of the "top handle" or WTF he's talking about. :confused:
Kevin68
03-20-2024, 1:12pm
I've never heard of the "top handle" or WTF he's talking about. :confused:
Can cut wood with one hand and fap with the other.
Can cut wood with one hand and fap with the other.
So they re-invented the wheel?
Great.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
98690
Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:
I've never heard of the "top handle" or WTF he's talking about. :confused:
All the Pro tree guys used top handle saws or "tree saws" as they were known back then in the early, middle 70's. I don't think Echo even existed back then. They were smaller and lighter and easier to use for trimming and transporting and storing. Think climbing a tree and carrying it or roping it up. Try handling both, easy to see the diff. And since they did the majority of the cutting, they were also less expensive to replace. Larger rear handled saws did the grunt work of cutting logs and felling trees.
My buddy collects and rehabs old Homelight and Stihl saws. Here he is a few years ago at work. 98733
Back in the day, when men were men. :hurray:
My dad had about a 6-foot crosscut, used it with him many times. After getting yelled at enough times, I learned that you only PULL, you never PUSH. :eek:
98734
Back in the day, when men were men. :hurray:
My dad had about a 6-foot crosscut, used it with him many times. After getting yelled at enough times, I learned that you only PULL, you never PUSH. :eek:
98734
I cut a lot of logs with my grandfather using a 4' tree saw back in the day. Then he bought a Homelite chainsaw and turned me into a log-cutting machine. :seasix:
The saw came in today. I opted for the 14" instead of the 12. I also ordered a scabbard for $5, but the saw came with one.
Found a small defect on the bar. I hope it doesn't effect performance.
Just install the bar so it is on the top. Probably won't matter much anyway. you can always smooth off any burrs with a file.
Enjoy it.
Should have went with the Stihl. :D
Need to change the name on the unit to "YADCO" before use. Just to tie things up and square them away.
Steve_R
03-25-2024, 4:54pm
The saw came in today. I opted for the 14" instead of the 12. I also ordered a scabbard for $5, but the saw came with one.
Found a small defect on the bar. I hope it doesn't affect performance.
That’s cute.
lrobe22
03-25-2024, 5:00pm
The saw came in today. I opted for the 14" instead of the 12. I also ordered a scabbard for $5, but the saw came with one.
Found a small defect on the bar. I hope it doesn't effect performance.
Congrats. Looks like an award for selling $10,000 in Mary Kay lipstick. :leaving:
Congrats. Looks like an award for selling $10,000 in Mary Kay lipstick. :leaving:
Ok that’s funny. :rofl:
MadInNc
03-25-2024, 6:02pm
sorry.... but nothing like a Stihl:datawiz:
Rikki Z-06
03-25-2024, 6:42pm
sorry.... but nothing like a Stihl:datawiz:
Or a Jonsered. :datawiz:
LOL @ "brand loyalty." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_loyalty) :Jeff '79:
In marketing, brand loyalty describes a consumer's positive feelings towards a brand and their dedication to purchasing the brand's products and/or services repeatedly regardless of deficiencies, a competitor's actions, or changes in the environment . . .
Should have went with the Stihl. :D
More money and more weight.
SurfnSun
03-25-2024, 7:30pm
For small jobs…
Electric FTW.
https://www.greenworkstools.com/collections/chainsaws/products/pro-80v-18-brushless-chainsaw-w-4-0ah-battery-rapid-charger
For small jobs…
Electric FTW.
https://www.greenworkstools.com/collections/chainsaws/products/pro-80v-18-brushless-chainsaw-w-4-0ah-battery-rapid-charger
I have a Dewalt 20V, along with a collection of their tools of that format. Not enough balz to cut anything over 4" diameter. And I have no intention of having a second battery system.
SurfnSun
03-25-2024, 7:58pm
I have a Dewalt 20V, along with a collection of their tools of that format. Not enough balz to cut anything over 4" diameter. And I have no intention of having a second battery system.
20v and 80v are not comparable. That’s like comparing a Chevy Cruze to a C8
More money and more weight.
And more better.
higgyburners
03-25-2024, 9:02pm
good job Hop Sing ..looks like a toy ..not a real mans saw....but that's what you get from Japan \ /
20v and 80v are not comparable. That’s like comparing a Chevy Cruze to a C8
Can you read?
I have no intention of having a second battery system.
good job Hop Sing ..looks like a toy ..not a real mans saw....but that's what you get from Japan \ /
Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:
SurfnSun
03-26-2024, 7:39am
Can you read?
Sure, what I can’t understand is why you’d buy a 20v system or chainsaw in the first place. 20v is fine for drills…not large tools.
I’d rather have a second battery than gas and two cycle oil stinking up my garage.
Sure, what I can’t understand is why you’d buy a 20v system or chainsaw in the first place. 20v is fine for drills…not large tools.
I’d rather have a second battery than gas and two cycle oil stinking up my garage.
I like the idea of a tree trim blade for my 20V sawzall to do the little stuff. :seasix:
Sure, what I can’t understand is why you’d buy a 20v system or chainsaw in the first place. 20v is fine for drills…not large tools.
I’d rather have a second battery than gas and two cycle oil stinking up my garage.The 20v Dewalt is basically a one-handed saw; great for smallish branches or trees.
Modern gas equipment is sealed, so no stink, unless you don't maintain them. Plus TruFuel volatizes much less than regular gasoline.
I have a suite of 20v Dewalt tools; drill, 1/4" impact driver, 3/8" impact driver, drywall sander, 6-1/4" saw, weed eater, leaf blower, angle grinder, random orbital sander, 9" paint polisher.... And a heated jacket. :D
I have no intention of having a second battery system.
GTOguy
03-26-2024, 10:38am
Yadkin's got this. Screw the naysayers. :)
Yadkin's got this. Screw the naysayers. :)
I credit him with the sawzall idea. I have used it for that in the past but not with the tree specific blades. I will pick up a few soon. :cert:
Up to 1/4": hand shear
Up to 1": lopper
Up to 2" sawsall w/ tree blade
Up to 4" 20v chainsaw
>4" gas chainsaw
Yadkin's got this. Screw the naysayers. :)
You mean the guys that don't own, never used a chainsaw? :Jeff '79:
Put down the granny saw and go for this
https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/professional-saws/ms661magnum/?aqid=dbb6c2057a78960ea9b0cc2b3522b405
:iagree:
As of today, I have no use for a chainsaw, but when I do, I know that Stihl is the way to go.
Up to 1/4": hand shear
Up to 1": lopper
Up to 2" sawsall w/ tree blade
Up to 4" 20v chainsaw
>4" gas chainsaw
What if I got a branch that's 3.236" ?
https://i.imgur.com/6NdWTxX.gif
What if I got a branch that's 3.236" ?
https://i.imgur.com/6NdWTxX.gif
You musta flunked maffs. :D
What if I got a branch that's 3.236" ?
https://i.imgur.com/6NdWTxX.gif
The 881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iOaMW-pTE&ab_channel=TripleLRusticDesigns
You mean the guys that don't own, never used a chainsaw? :Jeff '79:
Hell, they don't even go outside. Just sit on their asses banging away at the keyboard, trying to find fault with productive folk. :seasix:
Hell, they don't even go outside. Just sit on their asses banging away at the keyboard, trying to find fault with productive folk. :seasix:
Based on their extensive lack of content, you are likely correct-a-mundo. :seasix:
Should have went with the Stihl. :D
Aside from the weight advantage the Echo has this guide in case the chain comes off, and unlike the Stihl, is replaceable.
:iagree:
As of today, I have no use for a chainsaw, but when I do, I know that Stihl is the way to go.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
As of today, I have no use for a P-51 Mustang, but when I do, I'm going to buy one that was built by North American. :seasix:
SurfnSun
03-26-2024, 2:35pm
You mean the guys that don't own, never used a chainsaw? :Jeff '79:
I know you ain't talk 'bout me...:beatup:
I know you ain't talk 'bout me...:beatup:
Florida man? Nah. :Jeff '79:
I made a wood holder to hang it on the wall out of the way. Blade up, so the gas and oil fills are less likely to leak.
lrobe22
03-26-2024, 8:10pm
Nice job. Looking at your Porsche box, check that wix filter to see where it's made. Some of their stuff is made in China now.
Nice job. Looking at your Porsche box, check that wix filter to see where it's made. Some of their stuff is made in China now.
Looks like the same factory as the Mann. :seasix:
higgyburners
03-26-2024, 9:48pm
:rofl:
That is not a chainsaw...it is a oversized pruning tool. From Japan no less....shame on you. maybe we should do a go fund me so you can get the Stihl that's made in America.:kick:
Yadkin
03-26-2024, 10:57pm
:rofl:
That is not a chainsaw...it is a oversized pruning tool. From Japan no less....shame on you. maybe we should do a go fund me so you can get the Stihl that's made in America.:kick:
The most powerful Stihl Chainsaws – the pro-level saws like the 880, 881, 660, 661, and so on – are all still made in Germany. However, parts and materials are sourced from around the world.
Stihl Group Manufacturing has state-of-the-art assembly plants in:
Austria
Brazil
China
Germany
Switzerland
United States
https://fireandsaw.com/where-are-stihl-chainsaws-made/
Your stupidity continues to amaze and entertain.
And of course: Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:
higgyburners
03-27-2024, 1:06am
https://fireandsaw.com/where-are-stihl-chainsaws-made/
Your stupidity continues to amaze and entertain.
And of course: Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:
https://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-made-in-america/
Your stupidity continues to be unrivaled ...in your head Fred ...rent free :)
https://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-made-in-america/
Your stupidity continues to be unrivaled ...in your head Fred ...rent free :)
From the very first line in your link:
A majority of STIHL products sold in America are made in America of U.S. and global materials.
Majority: The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total. In other words, at least 51%.
And as my link showed, the pro-grade products are made in Germany, which is where the company is based. I purchased a pro-grade Echo, made where that company is based, in Japan.
Once more your stupidity continues to entertain.
Looks like I struck a nerve. Rent free, Himey. :Jeff '79:
GTOguy
03-27-2024, 10:53am
Looks like the same factory as the Mann. :seasix:
THAT'S what I"M talking about. From chainsaws, chainsaw racks, to German made oil filters. WINNING in every photo. :seasix:
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 11:44am
:rofl:
That is not a chainsaw...it is a oversized pruning tool. From Japan no less....shame on you. maybe we should do a go fund me so you can get the Stihl that's made in America.:kick:
Echo is made in America with more American sourced parts than any other brand...even their plastics are molded here.
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 11:46am
On the 2511, the recoil handle is designed to act as a tool fir loosening the caps should they become too snug.
Better than stihls flippy caps unless you enjoy bathing your cock in mixed gas, probably more action than some of these stihl homos would get otherwise.
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 11:53am
Look at this minty survivor from 1986, original bar and chain, guy bought it new, used it once and put it back in the case. The case disentegrated when he picked it up, still had the reciept and a spare chain in the box.
Yadkin
03-27-2024, 12:42pm
On the 2511, the recoil handle is designed to act as a tool fir loosening the caps should they become too snug.
Better than stihls flippy caps unless you enjoy bathing your cock in mixed gas, probably more action than some of these stihl homos would get otherwise.
:bigears:
Unlike some here, I appreciate learning new things. :seasix:
:bigears:
Unlike some here, I appreciate learning new things. :seasix:
That's because you're an egghead engineer. You like to use your brain instead of just your mouth. An OK trait---I guess. :)
Chunked up this little pile from a hung-up tree this afternoon. So much easier than my old McCullough from the 80's, 18" bar.
Chunked up this little pile from a hung-up tree this afternoon. So much easier than my old McCullough from the 80's, 18" bar.
I bought my first saw in the mid-'70s -- a used "Clinton," LOL. Surprise surprise it was a POS. I would go to look for it and it would be gone. I'd usually find it at the nearest bar, sitting next to the local slut. J/K. It was hard to start and cut like crap.
A year or so later I bought a new McCullough (as I mentioned earlier). It was great compared to the Clinton, it would actually cut once I got it started. But starting it was always a PITA, hot or cold.
Then the Echo in 2001. Always starts good, always cuts good. Never done anything to it except sharpen the chain and clean the air filter regularly.
Chunked up this little pile from a hung-up tree this afternoon. So much easier than my old McCullough from the 80's, 18" bar.
Others here, farting into the couch and watching football, will somehow find fault with your Yadpile. :seasix:
SurfnSun
03-27-2024, 3:29pm
Others here, farting into the couch and watching football, will somehow find fault with your Yadpile. :seasix:
All of the small diameter logs are on the same side...would have looked much better if he made it symmetrical.
I bought my first saw in the mid-'70s -- a used "Clinton," LOL. Surprise surprise it was a POS. I would go to look for it and it would be gone. I'd usually find it at the nearest bar, sitting next to the local slut. J/K. It was hard to start and cut like crap.
A year or so later I bought a new McCullough (as I mentioned earlier). It was great compared to the Clinton, it would actually cut once I got it started. But starting it was always a PITA, hot or cold.
Then the Echo in 2001. Always starts good, always cuts good. Never done anything to it except sharpen the chain and clean the air filter regularly.
This saw, first time, four pulls with the choke on, then one with the choke off, then off to the races.
It has a nice chain brake like my old saw; set that to put the saw down, or to walk through brush and loose footing. Light enough to cut with one handed if the need arises.
Others here, farting into the couch and watching football, will somehow find fault with your Yadpile. :seasix:
*cough* Himey *cough*
:Jeff '79:
This saw, first time, four pulls with the choke on, then one with the choke off, then off to the races.
It has a nice chain brake like my old saw; set that to put the saw down, or to walk through brush and loose footing. Light enough to cut with one handed if the need arises.
Mine can sit for a year in my unheated barn, and it might take 5-6 pulls. One pull if it's warm.
With my McDonalds (sic), I had to use starting fluid all the time when it was cold.
Others here, farting into the couch and watching football, will somehow find fault with your Yadpile. :seasix:
https://i.ibb.co/0fdVrsG/Sign-GRR-2.gif
FOOTBALL SEASON IS OVER. https://i.postimg.cc/y60mLtFJ/smiley-bashhead.gif
https://i.ibb.co/0fdVrsG/Sign-GRR-2.gif
FOOTBALL SEASON IS OVER. https://i.postimg.cc/y60mLtFJ/smiley-bashhead.gif
**** football season, the people who play it, and the fans who support it.
And **** Joe Biden, too. :seasix:
Mine can sit for a year in my unheated barn, and it might take 5-6 pulls. One pull if it's warm.
With my McDonalds (sic), I had to use starting fluid all the time when it was cold.
I've been using TruFuel in my small engines for two years now, and so far, so good.
I've been using TruFuel in my small engines for two years now, and so far, so good.
That stuff gets good ratings because it has some oil in it and no alcohol...so carburetors don't fizz into white corrosion and fuel systems don't rust and degrade. Ethanol alcohol is the government's back door tactic of getting older carbureted cars, trucks, and equipment off the road and out of service. No different than ammunition or magazine restrictions. Insidious, and, inherently evil.
That stuff gets good ratings because it has some oil in it and no alcohol...so carburetors don't fizz into white corrosion and fuel systems don't rust and degrade. Ethanol alcohol is the government's back door tactic of getting older carbureted cars, trucks, and equipment off the road and out of service. No different than ammunition or magazine restrictions. Insidious, and, inherently evil.
It's not just regular gasoline. Smells different in the tank and out the exhaust pipe.
A friend of mine called me a couple months back to help him with a friend of his and a snow thrower that wouldn't run. "He's got every tool you can think of." So I only brought my waste fluid vacuum and a can of TruFuel. He had E15 in it and hadn't started it in two years. I vacuumed out the old fuel, poured in a half-gallon of TruFuel, ran it through the filter and carburetor- would not start.
The guy had some screwdrivers and hammers, and some rusty wrenches. No spark plug socket. I did not have tools with me to check the plug, so told him to get the machine over to my house where I keep my (actual) tools.
A week later I got a call. "He tried it again and it started right up." Apparently the TruFuel had dissolved the varnish in the carb jet and solved the issue.
I used to drain all my equipment at end of season when I used regular gas with Stabil. Now I just leave the TruFuel in it. My 20 year old mower will start on the second pull next month, guaranteed.
I've been using TruFuel in my small engines for two years now, and so far, so good.
That stuff is crazy priced. :crazy:
For years I've used
E0 premium gas
StarTron fuel stabilizer (good for 2 years)
Amsoil Saber synthetic 2 stoke oil (100:1)
The 100:1 mix runs a lot cleaner than the 50:1
No smoke at all and you can feel the difference.
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 6:11pm
I use Marine Gas and Interlube Opti2, great oil..ive run it at 70:1 with no issues so im confident at 50:1.
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 6:16pm
Ive got an 80s McCulloch TimberBear, 18" bar but it will run a 24". Heavy old bastard, basically its a 10-10 with newer exterior styling, loud as hell, but it works. Got Husqvarnas too, 55, 350, 272xp, and stihls..026, ms260pro, 028 Super, 028 Super WoodBoss, 036 Pro, ms460 magnum, and an 031av ill definitely never put gas in ever again.
Vandelay Industries
03-27-2024, 6:19pm
I use Marine Gas and Interlube Opti2, great oil..ive run it at 70:1 with no issues so im confident at 50:1.
Opti2 is a fantastic product. I was selling & using it back in the 80s when it was Optimol.
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 6:23pm
Opti2 is a fantastic product. I was selling & using it back in the 80s when it was Optimol.
Im loving it, built that Husky 350 with a very mild port touchup, muffler mod and pop-up piston, caber rings and put 5 tanks through at 70:1, then pulled the jug...ftee oil in the case, not a single mark on the puston or cylinder.
I use Marine Gas and Interlube Opti2, great oil..ive run it at 70:1 with no issues so im confident at 50:1.
Lots of marinas here, but their gas prices are crazy too and WaWa is a lot more convenient anyway now that they carry it.
Their ethanol free, E0 or marine gas is around $4.60/gal but it's well worth it.
RED-85-Z51
03-27-2024, 8:05pm
Lots of marinas here, but their gas prices are crazy too and WaWa is a lot more convenient anyway now that they carry it.
Their ethanol free, E0 or marine gas is around $4.60/gal but it's well worth it.
They sell marine gas at regular stations here. I think its bullshit i have to payca road tax on 60-80 gallons at a time for recreational equipment
Steve_R
03-27-2024, 9:03pm
I didn’t know chain saw collecting was a thing. :shrug:
I didn’t know chain saw collecting was a thing. :shrug:
Me neither. :eek:
So Chain Sore guy above, why do you have so many? :confused:
Yadkin
03-27-2024, 11:12pm
That stuff is crazy priced. :crazy:
True, but I may use two gallon/ year for my 4-stroke equipment and maybe a gallon/ 2 years of 50:1 for my two-stroke stuff. Not worth worrying about.
They sell marine gas at regular stations here. I think its bullshit i have to payca road tax on 60-80 gallons at a time for recreational equipment
Thats common on the lake I live on. I know a couple of marina owners and they say that living way up here all the gas comes from the same line. So we pay road tax on marine use. We do have none E gas (high test) available at many stations, that is about .90 more a gallon that the crap eathanol gas!
Gas is high to begin with in this area, then we normally pay .30 -.40 more a gallon than down in the more populated areas. Gas sold at the marinas are at least a dollar or more likely a $1.25 more a gallon than our land based gas stations.
Boating can be quite expensive up here. Most peoples season goes from Memorial weekend to Labor day, then boat is pulled from the receding reservoir!
I have my own private dock and beach. I have many 5 gallon tanks and I fill them when down in the cheaper areas. By doing my own gas delivery I save serious money.:hurray:
Thats common on the lake I live on. I know a couple of marina owners and they say that living way up here all the gas comes from the same line. So we pay road tax on marine use. We do have none E gas (high test) available at many stations, that is about .90 more a gallon that the crap eathanol gas!
Gas is high to begin with in this area, then we normally pay .30 -.40 more a gallon than down in the more populated areas. Gas sold at the marinas are at least a dollar or more likely a $1.25 more a gallon than our land based gas stations.
Boating can be quite expensive up here. Most peoples season goes from Memorial weekend to Labor day, then boat is pulled from the receding reservoir!
I have my own private dock and beach. I have many 5 gallon tanks and I fill them when down in the cheaper areas. By doing my own gas delivery I save serious money.:hurray:
I had to get gas at Stillwater Reservoir one time in 2006 for my truck when I was up there with the GF boating and screwing. Because it was so isolated, the price was quite a bit higher than regular towns, like Old Forge where we came from that morning. I only got a half tank or so, don't remember.
But trucking the gasoline all the way up there on the dirt road cannot be cheap. We were there in August, but the road had a crappy grading job, full of chops, had to slow down numerous times to 10 MPH or so.
How about some pix of your place? :hurray:
GTOguy
03-28-2024, 11:14am
I didn’t know chain saw collecting was a thing. :shrug:
It is. My buddy must have 60 or more. He's starting to give them away. Most are antiques, all work.
6spdC6
03-28-2024, 12:06pm
I had to get gas at Stillwater Reservoir one time in 2006 for my truck when I was up there with the GF boating and screwing. Because it was so isolated, the price was quite a bit higher than regular towns, like Old Forge where we came from that morning. I only got a half tank or so, don't remember.
But trucking the gasoline all the way up there on the dirt road cannot be cheap. We were there in August, but the road had a crappy grading job, full of chops, had to slow down numerous times to 10 MPH or so.
How about some pix of your place? :hurray:
Any pictures I publish could be regarded as collector items.:D I rarely take pictures, do not own a camera and even less rare is putting them on line. If I had to guess there are probably less than 10 here and over 19 years at the other place a good bet is less than thirty. Of what I said above most any pictures are ones my wife takes.
My avatar is a advertising picture that is identical to my last Vette, and my profile picture was taken by Beadest many years ago. It shows her Vette and my C6!
RED-85-Z51
03-28-2024, 5:57pm
I didn’t know chain saw collecting was a thing. :shrug:
You can collect lots of things if you're single.
You can collect lots of things if you're single.
You should be collecting bed post notches.
Steve_R
03-28-2024, 6:44pm
You can collect lots of things if you're single.
I’d have a smaller house, a huge garage/shop and lots of cars. :yesnod:
RED-85-Z51
03-28-2024, 8:18pm
You should be collecting bed post notches.
This is Florida, you dont collect notches, you collect STDs and Mentally unstable women.
RED-85-Z51
03-28-2024, 8:29pm
I just fix people's stuff, put my garden in, keep my grass nice, help the neighbors, make some money, avoid debt, and mind my own business...a quiet drama free life is nice. Ill die alone, they probably wont find my body until its long past unrecognizable and thats okay.
Steve_R
03-28-2024, 8:39pm
Nice collection of toys. :seasix:
This is Florida, you dont collect notches, you collect STDs and Mentally unstable women.
Yeah but it’s a fun ride to hell.
I just fix people's stuff, put my garden in, keep my grass nice, help the neighbors, make some money, avoid debt, and mind my own business...a quiet drama free life is nice. Ill die alone, they probably wont find my body until its long past unrecognizable and thats okay.
You lucky bastard.
I just fix people's stuff, put my garden in, keep my grass nice, help the neighbors, make some money, avoid debt, and mind my own business...a quiet drama free life is nice. Ill die alone, they probably wont find my body until its long past unrecognizable and thats okay.
Ha, I have a very similar lifestyle except I don't fix anything anymore unless I absolutely have to. Been doing it all my life and I'm tired of it.
I don't need to earn any money anymore either.
I will probably croak the same way you do.
I just got some well-rotted horse manure from my buddy yesterday for my garden.
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higgyburners
03-28-2024, 9:48pm
Ill die alone, they probably wont find my body until its long past unrecognizable and thats okay.
I had to clean up after a situation like that....after the Bloat, I can never get that smell out of my nose. If I think about it I can smell it again. Do you family a favor and have somebody check in on you from time to time depending on how bad you feel.
RED-85-Z51
03-28-2024, 11:47pm
I had to clean up after a situation like that....after the Bloat, I can never get that smell out of my nose. If I think about it I can smell it again. Do you family a favor and have somebody check in on you from time to time depending on how bad you feel.
Oh it'll be years hopefully, im im only 37.
Oh it'll be years hopefully, im im only 37.
Wow! Turn those numbers around for me. For a few more months anyway.
This is Florida, you dont collect notches, you collect STDs and Mentally unstable women.
:Jeff '79: :Jeff '79: :Jeff '79: :Jeff '79:
I went to use the saw today and it would not start. It was flooded. It turns out that this is not a good way to store it. https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=99026&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1711499308
higgyburners
04-30-2024, 9:12pm
I went to use the saw today and it would not start. It was flooded. It turns out that this is not a good way to store it. https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=99026&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1711499308
101075
:kick:
https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=101075
:kick:
What age where you there, Himey? :waiting:
GTOguy
05-01-2024, 11:17am
What would Large Blob do??101101
That’s the right way to store the saw, Yaddy. The manufacturer built it wrong.
GTOguy
05-01-2024, 11:59am
That’s the right way to store the saw, Yaddy. The manufacturer built it wrong.
Hell yes the manufacturer ****ed up. Yadkin knows the score. Screw all of you naysayers. :)
Hell yes the manufacturer ****ed up. Yadkin knows the score. Screw all of you naysayers. :)
I've stored all mine for decades like that with no issues.
If not using it daily, let it run dry or lay it down.
101101
Those are missiles.
Those are missiles.
I agree. You could put an eye out. :)
I agree. You could put an eye out. :)
They look real.
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Yadkin
10-23-2024, 11:17am
Took down what was left of the tree in my front yard. I saw this technique on a youtube video, plunge cuts to help rot the stump quicker.
Kevin68
10-23-2024, 12:42pm
Took down what was left of the tree in my front yard. I saw this technique on a youtube video, plunge cuts to help rot the stump quicker.
Drill holes in stump with a spade bit, let stump dry for a few months, fill holes with diesel and let soak overnight. Light diesel and let it smolder for a few days. Stump's gone.
Aside from the weight advantage the Echo has this guide in case the chain comes off, and unlike the Stihl, is replaceable.
Since this is back up, thought I’d mention the chain catcher is replaceable on all Stihls. On the less expensive models, it’s molded into the clutch cover.
Drill holes in stump with a spade bit, let stump dry for a few months, fill holes with diesel and let soak overnight. Light diesel and let it smolder for a few days. Stump's gone.
I've tried drilling holes in hardwood stumps like this with very little progress. All the larger bits are designed for softwoods, and they just can't cut into this stuff. Due to our elevation and wind, the wood is extremely hard.
When I lived in the boonies, Upstate NY, I burned a 24" willow stump using that method. It was my old gas/ used paint thinner/ dirty kerosene disposal site for three years. Eventually it dried out enough and absorbed enough petrol to burn.
Here in a resort town, I wouldn't get away with a smoldering diesel fire for very long. I'll have to try the fertilizer/ Epsom salt, or some other method.
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