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04 commemorative
03-08-2024, 10:05am
1.4
Hope everyone here is getting theirs too :seasix:

Steve_R
03-08-2024, 10:09am
Don’t need one any more. :(

04 commemorative
03-08-2024, 10:11am
Well as long as you are OK,that's what matters

Bruze
03-08-2024, 10:17am
1.4
Hope everyone here is getting theirs too :seasix:

Don’t need one any more. :(

Maybe you know this already, but a PSA test is only one tool, by itself it may not mean much.

Mine was 2.8 (upper limit is 4.0) yet I had prostate cancer, which was only suspected by exam and confirmed with biopsy -- which probably saved my life (this was in 2012).

Steve_R, why no more test? Did you transition to a woman? :confused:

Vandelay Industries
03-08-2024, 10:19am
Mine's around 1.0, I get it checked every year due to family history. :yesnod:

Pro tip: If your urologist has a female PA, always make your appointment with her. Finger size matters! :willy:

Aerovette
03-08-2024, 10:20am
I have never been tested. It'll probably be what kills me.

04 commemorative
03-08-2024, 10:25am
I have never been tested. It'll probably be what kills me.

Not funny man.....get a test :seasix:

Aerovette
03-08-2024, 10:26am
Not funny man.....get a test :seasix:

I really wasn't being funny.

6spdC6
03-08-2024, 10:32am
Mine's around 1.0, I get it checked every year due to family history. :yesnod:

Pro tip: If your urologist has a female PA, always make your appointment with her. Finger size matters! :willy:

Finger means nothing compared to the ultra sound device my urologist doctor uses!

My GP is a rather petite female doctor, the first time she wanted to do a finger stick I commented "at least you have a much smaller finger than Doctor X''. She did giggle a bit!

Rodnok1
03-08-2024, 10:34am
I have never been tested. It'll probably be what kills me.

It's a simple blood test.
I should have gotten one 5 plus years ago.
:bslap:

Bruze
03-08-2024, 10:35am
Mine's around 1.0, I get it checked every year due to family history. :yesnod:

Pro tip: If your urologist has a female PA, always make your appointment with her. Finger size matters! :willy:

And if it's a guy doing the exam and he has BOTH hands on your shoulders, there may be more going on than a legit exam. :eek:

Bruze
03-08-2024, 10:36am
I really wasn't being funny.

Dying of prostate cancer can be prolonged, miserable, and very painful. :(

AUTOHOLIC
03-08-2024, 10:36am
Diagnosed wth prostate cancer 3 1/2 years ago. Radiation seeds implanted in October 2023. 3 months later PSA dropped from 17 to 3.9. Next PSA will be in July 2024 and expect the PSA will drop further.:thumbsup:

KenHorse
03-08-2024, 10:39am
Finger means nothing compared to the ultra sound device my urologist doctor uses!

My GP is a rather petite female doctor, the first time she wanted to do a finger stick I commented "at least you have a much smaller finger than Doctor X''. She did giggle a bit!

Same in my case. DRE really didn't show anything (also a woman GP with small fingers!)

Biopsy is the only way to know for sure. Even much more than a PSMA test

04 commemorative
03-08-2024, 10:42am
I really wasn't being funny.

Neither was I, it's just a blood draw at a lab.....be much better than maybe having undetected cancer.

Vandelay Industries
03-08-2024, 10:46am
And if it's a guy doing the exam and he has BOTH hands on your shoulders, there may be more going on than a legit exam. :eek:

That thought went through my head the first time I saw my doc! Afterwards I noticed he has hands like a longshoreman. :eek: :balls: :wtf:

Bruze
03-08-2024, 10:48am
Same in my case. DRE really didn't show anything (also a woman GP with small fingers!)

Biopsy is the only way to know for sure. Even much more than a PSMA test

Yes, the biopsy is the "gold standard," if the preliminary tests (PSA and/or digital) point to a problem.

slewfoot
03-08-2024, 10:48am
With being a regular at the VA I don't recall having a test specifically for PSA. I might have and looked through some. So I sent them a message to get one

Bruze
03-08-2024, 10:49am
That thought went through my head the first time I saw my doc! Afterwards I noticed he has hands like a longshoreman. :eek: :balls: :wtf:

But . . . were those hands on each of your shoulders during the exam? :eek:

6spdC6
03-08-2024, 10:50am
Same in my case. DRE really didn't show anything (also a woman GP with small fingers!)

Biopsy is the only way to know for sure. Even much more than a PSMA test

My numbers are good. Due to circumstances I have had a bunch of different tests. Some of them I think were designed by Doctor Marquis de Sade!

Vandelay Industries
03-08-2024, 10:52am
But . . . were those hands on each of your shoulders during the exam? :eek:

No idea. Let's just say my attention was focused on what was happening elsewhere. :willy::funnier:

Bruze
03-08-2024, 10:54am
No idea. Let's just say my attention was focused on what was happening elsewhere. :willy::funnier:

So you didn't really care? :hump:

I assumed you would be like George Costanza when he was getting a massage by that guy. :yesnod:

Vandelay Industries
03-08-2024, 10:57am
So you didn't really care? :hump:

I assumed you would be like George Costanza when he was getting a massage by that guy. :yesnod:

No, it didn't move! :nono:

:rofl:

Aerovette
03-08-2024, 11:07am
Dying of prostate cancer can be prolonged, miserable, and very painful. :(

I guess I have a unique outlook on these things.

My only goal is to outlive my 82 year old mother. After that, I seriously DGAS. I'm not leaving anyone behind.

Steve_R
03-08-2024, 11:19am
Steve_R, why no more test? Did you transition to a woman? :confused:

:skia:

I don’t have a prostate gland thanks to cancer.

slewfoot
03-08-2024, 11:22am
So you didn't really care? :hump:

I assumed you would be like George Costanza when he was getting a massage by that guy. :yesnod:

As I recall, "it moved!"

Stevedore
03-08-2024, 12:23pm
Mine was .6 last year. Several years ago it was .7. :island14:

04 commemorative
03-08-2024, 12:43pm
I guess I have a unique outlook on these things.

My only goal is to outlive my 82 year old mother. After that, I seriously DGAS. I'm not leaving anyone behind.

Ok then...well I wish you a long happy life.

Rob
03-08-2024, 1:54pm
:iagree: get checked

Bruze
03-08-2024, 2:15pm
:skia:

I don’t have a prostate gland thanks to cancer.

I had mine out in 2012, but that is not necessarily an absolute cure (most doctors avoid using the term "cure" for any kind of cancer that is in remission).

I still get my PSA checked annually by my regular doc, still undetectable, so I probably am "cured."

There are technical/biological reasons why a PSA test is very accurate at detecting prostate cancer cells in the blood after the prostate has been removed/destroyed, unlike before when it doesn't necessarily mean anything -- as in my case.

Your doc doesn't recommend getting it checked annually? :confused: I probably wouldn't bother going to the uro annually, except that the PA I see is a very hot early-50s babe.

ZipZap
03-08-2024, 2:49pm
My PA is hot. I ask her if I can lay on my back while she does it.:rofl:

KenHorse
03-08-2024, 3:06pm
My PA is hot. I ask her if I can lay on my back while she does it.:rofl:

Penthouse still accept letters? :rofl:

Bruze
03-08-2024, 3:33pm
My PA is hot. I ask her if I can lay on my back while she does it.:rofl:

This is mine:


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Frankie the Fink
03-08-2024, 3:37pm
1.4 is what mine is - and yes, I get it checked regularly..

KenHorse
03-08-2024, 4:36pm
Oh and by the way, my PSA (as of last December) was basically undetectable (< .02)

Bruze
03-08-2024, 5:22pm
Oh and by the way, my PSA (as of last December) was basically undetectable (< .02)

Did you have prostate cancer treatment?

Louie Detroit
03-08-2024, 5:36pm
Had my prostate removed almost 25 years ago and still get a yearly PSA test, per Dr orders. Dormant cancers can linger for decades and suddenly re-emerge.

KenHorse
03-08-2024, 5:59pm
Did you have prostate cancer treatment?

You could say that

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135298

Bruze
03-08-2024, 6:53pm
You could say that

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135298

Okay, I missed that thread originally.

I was wondering when you posted above that your PSA was undetectable, if you'd had prostate treatment. As I recall from 2012, when I learned all this stuff, that there is always some level of PSA in the blood *IF* one still has their prostate. The only way it would be that low (mine goes from .03-.06, undetectable) is if there is no prostate gland.

So it all makes sense now. How are you doing with all that crap you went through?

MadInNc
03-08-2024, 6:56pm
BIL @ 100

KenHorse
03-08-2024, 7:00pm
So it all makes sense now. How are you doing with all that crap you went through?

Doing well, thanks. Still some side effects from the prostate surgery but I'm told it could take up to a total of 18 months to fully recover but I am improving in that (those?) area(s).

As for the lung lobectomy, I am symptom free. Then again, I don't run marathons but have no problems with any sort of daily activity. As of the end of October, I was NED (no evidence of disease) according to my last CT Scan. Due for another one at the end of April

Jeff78
03-08-2024, 7:45pm
1.2 in December. :seasix:

Dan47
03-08-2024, 10:27pm
I guess I have a unique outlook on these things.

My only goal is to outlive my 82 year old mother. After that, I seriously DGAS. I'm not leaving anyone behind.

I’m leaving people behind and still DGAS. No PSA, no Colonoscopy, no Clotshots, etc.

We’ll probably both live a gazillion years. :rofl:

slewfoot
03-08-2024, 10:57pm
0.45 here

SurfnSun
03-09-2024, 7:16am
I’m leaving people behind and still DGAS. No PSA, no Colonoscopy, no Clotshots, etc.

We’ll probably both live a gazillion years. :rofl:

Stage 3 colon cancer survivor here.

You do not want it, especially when routine colonoscopies can keep you cancer free.

Dan47
03-09-2024, 8:31am
Stage 3 colon cancer survivor here.

You do not want it, especially when routine colonoscopies can keep you cancer free.

Of course not but something is going to get us all and I prefer to leave it to fate. I respect those that choose otherwise. :cert:

SurfnSun
03-09-2024, 8:38am
Of course not but something is going to get us all and I prefer to leave it to fate. I respect those that choose otherwise. :cert:

Suit yourself :cert:

I am well aware of death and I’m ready to meet my maker anytime…however, I enjoy life and I dislike pain & suffering. Cancer is nothing but pain and suffering…and sometimes very slow death.

slewfoot
03-09-2024, 9:30am
I've had a lot of sht done the past 15 years with 11 surgeries. Only 1 was life threatening. The rest I look at as preventive maintenance that seems to be paying off.

Bruze
03-09-2024, 10:34am
Suit yourself :cert:

I am well aware of death and I’m ready to meet my maker anytime…however, I enjoy life and I dislike pain & suffering. Cancer is nothing but pain and suffering…and sometimes very slow death.

Agree. Colon cancer killed one of my cousins 20-some years ago.

The best scenario is to live a reasonably healthy life into old age, then go to sleep one night and never wake up. Unfortunately, it usually does not happen that way, although I had a friend who did back in 2016. He was a widower in his early 80s.

I do not fear death, but dying slowly in a hospital or nursing home with (or even without) pain is not something I hope for.

Dan47
03-09-2024, 10:59am
My brother had a heart attack and mentioned “fwiw, it was painless.” :yesnod:

Very few ways to exit that sound appealing but only way we get to choose is something approaching suicide. I absolutely would take that route if things become unbearable but don’t dwell on this stuff.

I just want to live long enough to tell Trump supporters and Bitcoin supporters, “I told you so.” :yesnod:



















:lol:

Vandelay Industries
03-09-2024, 11:01am
My brother had a heart attack and mentioned “fwiw, it was painless.” :yesnod:

Very few ways to exit that sound appealing but only way we get to choose is something approaching suicide. I absolutely would take that route if things become unbearable but don’t dwell on this stuff.

I just want to live long enough to tell Trump supporters and Bitcoin supporters, “I told you so.” :yesnod:



















:lol:

Proving that TDS is terminal. :spdchk:

Vette40th
03-09-2024, 11:10am
.5 two weeks ago.

RonC5
03-09-2024, 11:36am
0.01 for the last 18 months. High 7s before that.

GTOguy
03-09-2024, 11:56am
PSA Airline stewardesses, 1972.98189

KenHorse
03-09-2024, 12:06pm
PSA Airline stewardesses, 1972.98189

That supposed to help with ED? :rofl:

Dan47
03-09-2024, 12:07pm
Proving that TDS is terminal. :spdchk:

Plus F.U.D. (fear, uncertainty and doubt), from the Bitcoin-sters. :yesnod: :lol:

Bruze
03-09-2024, 5:31pm
PSA Airline stewardesses, 1972.98189

How things have changed.


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Bill
03-09-2024, 5:45pm
Of course not but something is going to get us all and I prefer to leave it to fate. I respect those that choose otherwise. :cert:

There's thousands of things that can kill people, it's interesting that people chose to screen for, what, maybe a dozen of those things? What about all the rest? I can see if someone has family history of something, testing for that, of course.

Mick
03-09-2024, 5:56pm
With all the early deaths in my family from several different kinds of cancer (most notably colon, so I am VERY prone to dying of a "horrible ass cancer"), heart problems, diabetes, gout, dementia, etc., I swear, the ONE thing I have never heard of any blood relative of mine having was prostate cancer. So at least I have that going for me!

I still get tested twice per year as part of my regular blood panel. Last test was 0.2, so I'm OK so far.

VITE1
03-10-2024, 8:41am
I’m leaving people behind and still DGAS. No PSA, no Colonoscopy, no Clotshots, etc.

We’ll probably both live a gazillion years. :rofl:

I've watched 3 close friends die from Colon cancer. It's very bad way to go. All of them refused to get the Colonoscopies.

Your body, your choice.

Dan47
03-10-2024, 9:08am
I've watched 3 close friends die from Colon cancer. It's very bad way to go. All of them refused to get the Colonoscopies.

Your body, your choice.

That’s the immediate but had they not died from colon cancer, they might have died from ALS or something worse?

I’m planning on going out on opioids. Those folks get mad when they’re saved with Narcan. If that’s not a 5 star yelp review for an opioid death, I don’t know what is?

“Don’t Narcan me, bro.” :D

Bruze
03-10-2024, 9:11am
I have a 62 year-old niece, never smoked, who has lung cancer; diagnosed around New Years. They said it is a very slow-growing cancer and has probably been there a long time.

She has had several bouts of pneumonia since before Christmas and is on/off oxygen -- although I think she still uses it every night.

Not sure yet, but my sis said lung removal may not be possible, otherwise they will go with radiation.

Not much she could have done about it before now, she never had any symptoms of anything being wrong.

Not a good time. I remember holding her when she was just a few days old. I can't imagine losing her -- she's a happy wife, they raised two great kids, and they have a 5 year-old grand daughter.

Oh well, the Grim Reaper doesn't care who you are -- he's always lurking around the corner.

04 commemorative
03-10-2024, 9:17am
Unfortunately you are born with an expiration date .....the one date you will not miss...
you can delay some things by having checkups and treatments... but all that means was that was not your date.
I'm very sad for niece as I am for our son....prayers for her :sadangel:

Bruze
03-10-2024, 9:22am
That’s the immediate but had they not died from colon cancer, they might have died from ALS or something worse?

I’m planning on going out on opioids. Those folks get mad when they’re saved with Narcan. If that’s not a 5 star yelp review for an opioid death, I don’t know what is?

“Don’t Narcan me, bro.” :D

I have thought about that too, depending on the situation. No interest in going to a nursing home to die over a period of years -- or even less.

I have enough (prescribed) opiates to kill a horse; I have several different kinds. These were all prescribed during the Big Pharma-backed opioid "crisis" 10-15 years ago.

One doc in particular nearly forced me to take the script, even after I told him numerous times that I was okay, I didn't have any pain (following a biopsy). He was worse than a used-car salesman, and it was very obvious he was pushing them, which had nothing to do with my not needing them.

Frankie the Fink
03-10-2024, 9:42am
Doctors push oxycodone and its derivatives like mad; I won't take them but sometimes get the prescription filled so I just threw out dozens of expired pills.

I have Federal long term care insurance and the reps tell me that most nursing home stays are a maximum of 24 months in most cases; after after that the patient either expires or returns home (there are exceptions). As for assisted suicide I think Oregon may be the only state supporting it, but I haven't really checked.

Rodnok1
03-10-2024, 10:15am
Must be nice.. They won't give me anything for pain ever. Not that I need it often nor do I like taking anything.

Bruze
03-10-2024, 10:37am
Must be nice.. They won't give me anything for pain ever. Not that I need it often nor do I like taking anything.

Around 1990 I had sciatic pain for weeks; could barely sleep, went to doc several times, he would NOT prescribe any opiates. Finally after several visits he did, codeine (if memory serves). That killed most of the pain and I could finally sleep.

Fast forward two decades and they were shoving opiates down my throat for anything. I didn't know what was going on at the time, but something was sure fishy.

It was, as I recently learned, Big Pharma directly paying them to be hard drug pushers -- Big Pharm was directly responsible for the "opioid crisis." Drug stores have become drug dealers.

If the accepted parts of the establishment/government push and sell hard drugs, or have organized open gambling operations involving untold billions of dollars, that fine and dandy.

If we do it, we are felons.

Dan47
03-10-2024, 5:59pm
I have thought about that too, depending on the situation. No interest in going to a nursing home to die over a period of years -- or even less.

I have enough (prescribed) opiates to kill a horse; I have several different kinds. These were all prescribed during the Big Pharma-backed opioid "crisis" 10-15 years ago.

One doc in particular nearly forced me to take the script, even after I told him numerous times that I was okay, I didn't have any pain (following a biopsy). He was worse than a used-car salesman, and it was very obvious he was pushing them, which had nothing to do with my not needing them.

That nursing home crap isn’t for me either. I imagine some folks keep going because of religious beliefs or something else I’m not aware of?