The official VBOT "Look at me" thread

[Kevin68]

Have you ever done or bought something cool but don't want to be like that guy who starts a new thread every time he buys a roll of toilet paper? Or your unsure if your achievement is thread-worthy? Or your real friends or wife just aren't giving you enough kudo's so you have to resort to your pretend friends here at VBOT for a pat on the back?

Well you've come the the right place.

I'll start...

My shop is hotter than hell in the summer. Even with all six doors open and a breeze blowing through and the 14' fan going full blast, it's hotter in the shop than outside. It can't be good for the cars or my tools. Last week, I had an HVAC system installed and starting today, the insulation goes in. My shop hasn't been this empty since it was built.

[MikeB]

:omg::afrocool::cool2:

[AUTOHOLIC]

You didn’t think of just insulating it before the expense of A/C to see if it would suffice?

[Unsuspicious]

Great photo for a "room full of people who care" meme.

[Anjdog2003]

I'd rater spend the money and move out of Texas

[Bill]

What r-value insulation are you using? We used the cheapest option when we had our shop built....it does make a difference, even the minimal amount. If you're going to put your shop under air, it makes sense to put in the best insulation available.

[Kevin68]

You didn’t think of just insulating it before the expense of A/C to see if it would suffice?

I did. That was the original plan when I built it, but it looked too pretty to ugly it up with spray foam. If I have to look at ugly, I figured I might as well be comfortable while doing so. Plus, heat will minimize the freeze risk to the plumbing.

[LATB]

Typically those red iron buildings have vinyl wrapped fiberglass insulation between the steel frame and the metal siding and roofing.
At this point spray foam is probably the best option.

[Jughead]

humble brag thread.

Baller

[Bill]

Typically those red iron buildings have vinyl wrapped fiberglass insulation between the steel frame and the metal siding and roofing.
At this point spray foam is probably the best option.

That's what we got, although we cheaped out and didn't have the roll up doors insulated.

[Steve_R]

I have a two car garage that's insulated and heated/cooled. :banana1:


I'd trade it in a second for the OP's shop.

[Kevin68]

I'd rater spend the money and move out of Texas

You're one of the few Californians we'd let in. Just let me know when you've had enough BS in Ca, and I can get you an entry pass to Texas. I know people.

What r-value insulation are you using? We used the cheapest option when we had our shop built....it does make a difference, even the minimal amount. If you're going to put your shop under air, it makes sense to put in the best insulation available.

20 on the walls, 28 on the ceiling. If the AC can't keep up, I can add more in a few years. By then, I'll probably need to clean it again anyway.

[Onebadcad]

If I had a garage that nice, and big, I would see no value in owning a home.
CONGRATS!!

[Kevin68]

Typically those red iron buildings have vinyl wrapped fiberglass insulation between the steel frame and the metal siding and roofing.
At this point spray foam is probably the best option.

Spray foam is what's going in.

humble brag thread.

Baller

Exactly! That's what this thread is for. Although I'm not a baller. Baller would have the floors all gayed up with epoxy.

[Don Rickles]

Pics of wife in sweaty shop?:leaving:

[Anjdog2003]

You're one of the few Californians we'd let in. Just let me know when you've had enough BS in Ca, and I can get you an entry pass to Texas. I know people.



I have a son in Austin, and because of my love for him i go to visit him. Thanks bro but you can have Texas. :cert:

[GTOguy]

Doug bought a new Eco-Boost 2.3 Mustang. Traded in the Drilled C-5. Woot-woot.

[Yadkin]

Hot in Texas? Whouda thunk?

[Steve_R]

Doug bought a new Eco-Boost 2.3 Mustang. Traded in the Drilled C-5. Woot-woot.


And he's worried about what "his base" in his role as a "paid professional writer" on a Corvette site will think. :Jeff '79:

[Aerovette]

If Pause Button Doug was an actual brand, it would have been on it's 15th recall by now.

[Aerovette]

Our shop at work has insulating blankets for insulation and soft ductwork. Pretty cool stuff.

[Tikiman]

That's a pretty sweet shop, Kevin. :thumbs:

[Tikiman]

Doug bought a new Eco-Boost 2.3 Mustang. Traded in the Drilled C-5. Woot-woot.

And he's worried about what "his base" in his role as a "paid professional writer" on a Corvette site will think. :Jeff '79:


I sense another manic episode coming on. The need for a new, shiny toy usually proceeded the past episodes. It's pretty hysterical that he thinks he has a following for his articles. :rofl:

[Unsuspicious]

Hey, if some guy feels self-actualized for writing wonky opeds for a geezer who just discovered blogging, good for him

[Aerovette]

Chat GPT has the same job Pause Button Doug has, and has no phobias or mental illnesses. Results in seconds.

[LATB]

And he's worried about what "his base" in his role as a "paid professional writer" on a Corvette site will think. :Jeff '79:

“His base” :funniest::funniest:

[Aerovette]

“His base” :funniest::funniest:

He does have a loyal following.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/54/a4/ed/54a4edc61027afaf557163698aef678e.jpg

[Steve_R]

“His base” :funniest::funniest:


The title of his thread over there is "Dealer loses $3800, and this could get awkward with my base..." He posted the details. He paid $599 for nitrogen in the tires. :rofl:

[Tikiman]

The title of his thread over there is "Dealer loses $3800, and this could get awkward with my base..." He posted the details. He paid $599 for nitrogen in the tires. :rofl:

To be fair, when you are a famous paid, professional writer, you don't worry about the little stuff like some commoner.



He's patting himself on the back for talking them down from $1,300. :rofl:



I say if he dings it in the next three months, it's history and he will be chasing the next new shiny thing.

[Aerovette]

The title of his thread over there is "Dealer loses $3800, and this could get awkward with my base..." He posted the details. He paid $599 for nitrogen in the tires. :rofl:


He'll make it all back in a series of articles about nitrogen filled tires.

Two a month for 6 months.


A fool and his money...

[DJ_Critterus]

I sense another manic episode coming on. The need for a new, shiny toy usually proceeded the past episodes. It's pretty hysterical that he thinks he has a following for his articles. :rofl:

They're bots :funnier:

Anyway, OP... what all do you keep in the shop? :bigears:

[Don Rickles]

They're bots :funnier:

Anyway, OP... what all do you keep in the shop? :bigears:

What, are you the nagging wife.....?

Stuff, that's what.:slap:

[Steve_R]

Anyway, OP... what all do you keep in the shop? :bigears:


This. We need pics of said stuff and the wife. :yesnod:

[LATB]

The title of his thread over there is "Dealer loses $3800, and this could get awkward with my base..." He posted the details. He paid $599 for nitrogen in the tires. :rofl:

Dealer didn’t lose chit. UD fancies himself as always getting the best of anyone he does car business with.

[Tikiman]

Dealer didn’t lose chit. UD fancies himself as always getting the best of anyone he does car business with.

They only gave him twelve and change for a very low mileage C5.

[Vandelay Industries]

The title of his thread over there is "Dealer loses $3800, and this could get awkward with my base..." He posted the details. He paid $599 for nitrogen in the tires. :rofl:

Money's no object with his second writing gig ("if" he gets it.) :yesnod:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/449x975/img_2400_7d2b0f876172b94868787e70c6c30741d92a3d40.jpeg

[Vandelay Industries]

Dealer didn’t lose chit. UD fancies himself as always getting the best of anyone he does car business with.

Yellow pad math. :funnier:

[Kevin68]

What, are you the nagging wife.....?

Stuff, that's what.:slap:

:Jeff '79:

[Kevin68]

They're bots :funnier:

Anyway, OP... what all do you keep in the shop? :bigears:

.96020

[Mick]

Doug bought a new Eco-Boost 2.3 Mustang. Traded in the Drilled C-5. Woot-woot.

For a guy in his mid to late 50s with a "net worth" in the low 5 figures who hasn't had a full-time job in decades (if ever), he sure seems to buy an awful lot of brand new vehicles.

[DJ_Critterus]

What, are you the nagging wife.....?

Stuff, that's what.:slap:

Pipe down, ya hockey schmuck

[Vandelay Industries]

For a guy in his mid to late 50s with a "net worth" in the low 5 figures who hasn't had a full-time job in decades (if ever), he sure seems to buy an awful lot of brand new vehicles.

Dude, he lives in a nearly quarter million dollar townhome.

https://i.imgflip.com/1x9kcu.gif

[Kevin68]

This. We need pics of said stuff and the wife. :yesnod:

:rofl:

[Aerovette]

For a guy in his mid to late 50s with a "net worth" in the low 5 figures who hasn't had a full-time job in decades (if ever), he sure seems to buy an awful lot of brand new vehicles.

There is a term for this. Rigguh nich.

[GTOguy]

For a guy in his mid to late 50s with a "net worth" in the low 5 figures who hasn't had a full-time job in decades (if ever), he sure seems to buy an awful lot of brand new vehicles.

I think when he said his net worth was 65k back in 2022, he was including the Mustang and the Donzi and also that older diesel pickup truck and his down payment on Shitts Creek.

Personally, I don't think he has enough coin to pay the first and last deposit on an apartment.

The new-car-every-other-month deal is all done on credit and is based on smoke and mirrors. I'm betting he can't write a $1000 check. :seasix:

[Bill]

:rofl:

I mean, technically at least, thread does deliver.

[Bill]

Dude, he lives in a nearly quarter million dollar townhome.

https://i.imgflip.com/1x9kcu.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r5byXcQMGg

[LATB]

They only gave him twelve and change for a very low mileage C5.

He fuk'd up that perfectly good stock survivor just for the sake of a couple of reports on a website nobody GAF about.

[Mick]

Dude, he lives in a nearly quarter million dollar townhome.

https://i.imgflip.com/1x9kcu.gif

Nice gif! I especially like the one $5 in it!

I thought the townhome belonged to his meal ticket and he doesn't have any financial interest in it at all. :island14:

[Aerovette]

Nice gif! I especially like the one $5 in it!

I thought the townhome belonged to his meal ticket and he doesn't have any financial interest in it at all. :island14:

Issallabout da Washingtons.

[LATB]

Money's no object with his second writing gig ("if" he gets it.) :yesnod:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/449x975/img_2400_7d2b0f876172b94868787e70c6c30741d92a3d40.jpeg

Considering he's made a whopping 13 grand or so since december 2022 when he became a professional writer...
the dude could use a 2nd gig.

[Aerovette]

Considering he's made a whopping 13 grand or so since december 2022 when he became a professional writer...
the dude could use a 2nd gig.


Or...hear me out on this...an ACTUAL JOB !!

[Big bob]

You guy really miss your mentor.:rofl:


Back to the post how many ton units did you put in?

[sublime1996525]

.96020

Need more pics of the F100.

[cptlo306]

Money's no object with his second writing gig ("if" he gets it.) :yesnod:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/449x975/img_2400_7d2b0f876172b94868787e70c6c30741d92a3d40.jpeg


topspeed.com
https://valnetconcept.applytojob.com/apply/1PWUhh5Pc9/TopSpeed-Freelance-Writer

hotcars.com
https://jobgether.com/offer/65bf9543bb93d052b598d46f-hotcars---freelance-automotive-journalist

[Aerovette]

You guy really miss your mentor.:rofl:


Back to the post how many ton units did you put in?

* al case

[Mike Mercury]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A90GUtbVfpA?feature=share

[Vandelay Industries]

Nice gif! I especially like the one $5 in it!

I thought the townhome belonged to his meal ticket and he doesn't have any financial interest in it at all. :island14:

:yesnod: That's why I said he lives there. :seasix:

[Mike Mercury]

https://youtu.be/SFEFFeNiwbo

[Vandelay Industries]

Or...hear me out on this...an ACTUAL JOB !!

:funniest:

[LATB]

Or...hear me out on this...an ACTUAL JOB !!

There are non English speaking illegals who out earn him. :Jeff '79:

[LATB]

You guy really miss your mentor.:rofl:


Back to the post how many ton units did you put in?

That dude is no one’s mentor. Sadly he must not have had one himself. :(

[Kevin68]

Back to the post how many ton units did you put in?

One 5 Ton. I'm aware it's marginal for that volume. 2850 ft^2 conditioned space.

Need more pics of the F100.

:nono: F-350. '74 Super Camper Special. 460 cid. The back axle is rearward and the spare goes in a hatch on the passenger side. Dual batteries and slide in camper connections in the bed. Frame is slightly narrowed to fit the tire. I'm considering a frame off and engine rebuild on it beginning sometime this year. Step son got it in Utah for $500. I was always doing the work on it so I convinced him to sell it to me and he can drive it when he visits. I think naming cars is faggotry but he called it the Guacamole Express and I kind of like it. I won't be cutting my balls off anytime soon, though.

[Big bob]

My friend had one with a four speed I believe with a camper. Took out a drive through the first day.:rofl:

[Kevin68]

My friend had one with a four speed I believe with a camper. Took out a drive through the first day.:rofl:

Nope. Manual transmission not available on a SCS. Narrow frame didn’t work with the linkage. I would love to lose the C6 and I bet there’s a way to do it.

[Big bob]

Nope. Manual transmission not available on a SCS. Narrow frame didn’t work with the linkage. I would love to lose the C6 and I bet there’s a way to do it.

It's been a few years it was a beast and a lot of fun was had. So how many tons to cool that? And can't imagine the bill.:sadangel:

[VatorMan]

It's been a few years it was a beast and a lot of fun was had. So how many tons to cool that? And can't imagine the bill.:sadangel:

That’s one roof I’d fill with solar panels and a battery pack.

[Cool 50th AE]

I'll start...


Needs a giant TV hanging somewhere and a Kegerator.

[LATB]

One 5 Ton. I'm aware it's marginal for that volume. 2850 ft^2 conditioned space.
I don’t think that is marginal. I believe that 1-1.5 tons per 1000 sq ft is the base calculation.

[Big bob]

With it being that hot and high ceiling I don't think 1 ton per 500 sqft would be enough.

[LATB]

Some commercial HVAC engineering calls for one ton per 500 sq ft. But that’s usually for public spaces/retail where doors are constantly opened and a lot of people.

I think in a shop the idea is to keep the temperature comfortable when you’re working in there. And as important to keep the humidity down to protect the tools and equipment.

[Yadkin]

Some commercial HVAC engineering calls for one ton per 500 sq ft. But that’s usually for public spaces/retail where doors are constantly opened and a lot of people.

I think in a shop the idea is to keep the temperature comfortable when you’re working in there. And as important to keep the humidity down to protect the tools and equipment.

Is there humidity in Texas? Don't you need "water" for that? :confused5:

[Aerovette]

Is there humidity in Texas? Don't you need "water" for that? :confused5:

So you're saying you've never been here.:seasix:

[Kevin68]

It's been a few years it was a beast and a lot of fun was had. It is a torque monster. So how many tons to cool that? Again, One, 5 ton.And can't imagine the bill.:sadangel:The F-350 gets 10 mpg downhill with a tailwind, I'll be OK

That’s one roof I’d fill with solar panels and a battery pack.

Dammit, you just said the S word and battery pack. That's like opening a can of tuna in front of a cat for that guy. He'll be trying to talk me into a T car. I've looked into it but even if I do it myself, the payoff isn't great @ ~$0.08/kWh. It won't be running full blast 24/7. Maybe average $50-75/mo.

Needs a giant TV hanging somewhere and a Kegerator.

Too far from the house to connect to satellite TV or wifi. I do have a fridge out there, but strangely, I don't drink (other than water) while working. But if I'm not working, sleeping, or driving there's a good chance I have a beer in my hand. :cert:

I don’t think that is marginal. I believe that 1-1.5 tons per 1000 sq ft is the base calculation.

That's what the AC guys said, but only because of the sealing property of foam; no drafts. The walls are 14' and 17' at the center. A bit more volume than residential. They told me not to waste money on a 2 speed 16 SEER because when it's running it'll probably be at high speed (14 SEER).

Some commercial HVAC engineering calls for one ton per 500 sq ft. But that’s usually for public spaces/retail where doors are constantly opened and a lot of people.

I think in a shop the idea is to keep the temperature comfortable when you’re working in there. And as important to keep the humidity down to protect the tools and equipment.

Correct. I'm told that the 500/sq ft is a bit outdated with modern insulation. We shall see. Anything will be better than what I had.

Pablo, Pepe and Pedro are doing a great job and are putting in more than the boss man said they would. The walls were supposed to be 6". The purlins are 8"; I'm going to have to shave it to get my pegboard back up. They worked 'til 7 tonight.

They did a nice job masking everything too.

[ZipZap]

Need pics of 14 foot fan.:cert:

[Kevin68]

Need pics of 14 foot fan.:cert:

It's a Big Ass fan. https://bigassfans.com/

[ZipZap]

I see some James Bond villain shit going down there. Fill his backpack with helium and...chop, chop!:rofl:

[ptindall]

Typically those red iron buildings have vinyl wrapped fiberglass insulation between the steel frame and the metal siding and roofing.


This is what my 40'x60'x16' has, with insulated doors. I was really impressed with how well the insulation works. I bet the AC will work great in the OP's building after insulation.

[ptindall]

:nono: F-350. '74 Super Camper Special. 460 cid. The back axle is rearward and the spare goes in a hatch on the passenger side. Dual batteries and slide in camper connections in the bed. Frame is slightly narrowed to fit the tire. I'm considering a frame off and engine rebuild on it beginning sometime this year. Step son got it in Utah for $500. I was always doing the work on it so I convinced him to sell it to me and he can drive it when he visits. I think naming cars is faggotry but he called it the Guacamole Express and I kind of like it. I won't be cutting my balls off anytime soon, though.

:cool: As a bit of a truck camper and classic car fan, I've had thoughts of pairing one of these up with a nice classic truck camper, but the reality is classic truck campers in nice shape are extremely rare and I don't think driving one of these trucks long distance would be very comfortable or relaxing. It would be super cool, but I probably wouldn't use it enough to make it worth while.

[Yadkin]

So you're saying you've never been here.:seasix:

Only the airport in Houston. I think it was August. I went outside for about five seconds- any longer and my skin would have melted away. :Jeff '79:

[Yadkin]

Dammit, you just said the S word and battery pack. That's like opening a can of tuna in front of a cat for that guy. He'll be trying to talk me into a T car. I've looked into it but even if I do it myself, the payoff isn't great @ ~$0.08/kWh. It won't be running full blast 24/7. Maybe average $50-75/mo.



Too far from the house to connect to satellite TV or wifi. I do have a fridge out there, but strangely, I don't drink (other than water) while working. But if I'm not working, sleeping, or driving there's a good chance I have a beer in my hand. :cert:



That's what the AC guys said, but only because of the sealing property of foam; no drafts. The walls are 14' and 17' at the center. A bit more volume than residential. They told me not to waste money on a 2 speed 16 SEER because when it's running it'll probably be at high speed (14 SEER).



Correct. I'm told that the 500/sq ft is a bit outdated with modern insulation. We shall see. Anything will be better than what I had.

Pablo, Pepe and Pedro are doing a great job and are putting in more than the boss man said they would. The walls were supposed to be 6". The purlins are 8"; I'm going to have to shave it to get my pegboard back up. They worked 'til 7 tonight.

They did a nice job masking everything too.
Closed or open cell foam?

[Old Ben]

Dammit, you just said the S word and battery pack. That's like opening a can of tuna in front of a cat for that guy. He'll be trying to talk me into a T car. I've looked into it but even if I do it myself, the payoff isn't great @ ~$0.08/kWh. It won't be running full blast 24/7. Maybe average $50-75/mo.



Too far from the house to connect to satellite TV or wifi. I do have a fridge out there, but strangely, I don't drink (other than water) while working. But if I'm not working, sleeping, or driving there's a good chance I have a beer in my hand. :cert:



That's what the AC guys said, but only because of the sealing property of foam; no drafts. The walls are 14' and 17' at the center. A bit more volume than residential. They told me not to waste money on a 2 speed 16 SEER because when it's running it'll probably be at high speed (14 SEER).



Correct. I'm told that the 500/sq ft is a bit outdated with modern insulation. We shall see. Anything will be better than what I had.

Pablo, Pepe and Pedro are doing a great job and are putting in more than the boss man said they would. The walls were supposed to be 6". The purlins are 8"; I'm going to have to shave it to get my pegboard back up. They worked 'til 7 tonight.

They did a nice job masking everything too.

Get one of those over the air antennas. I have one in the horse barn and can get 28 stations.

[VatorMan]

Dammit, you just said the S word and battery pack. That's like opening a can of tuna in front of a cat for that guy. He'll be trying to talk me into a T car. I've looked into it but even if I do it myself, the payoff isn't great @ ~$0.08/kWh. It won't be running full blast 24/7. Maybe average $50-75/mo.



I was just going by your statement that you'd run it continuous for your cars. I know Texas heat. During summer when the sun goes down, the ground starts baking you releasing day heat. Install a heat pump and be comfortable year around at pretty near 0 cost after installation. But yeah, 8 cents a Kwh is pretty hard to beat.
With a battery pack, you can have backup power in case of an outage as well.

[Mick]

Or...hear me out on this...an ACTUAL JOB !!

Hell you say!

:yesnod: That's why I said he lives there. :seasix:

:thumbs:

[Big bob]

They are doing a great job on the foam. But still think you will be a bit short on the tonnage but time will tell. Have you looked into the Mr. Cool heat pumps? It could take the edge off at high temperatures and take over at night or lower temperature. :seasix:

And for entertainment and Internet they make some pretty good extenders. I use them at some of my places for security and game cameras. :kimblair:

[Frankie the Fink]

A projection TV, min-bar and stripper pole and it would just about meet my standards.

[Aerovette]

Hell you say!



I know. Crazy talk. With his fears of air, water, soil, people, new shoes, soda fountains, and work, he'd be comatose in under an hour.

[sublime1996525]

:nono: F-350. '74 Super Camper Special. 460 cid. The back axle is rearward and the spare goes in a hatch on the passenger side. Dual batteries and slide in camper connections in the bed. Frame is slightly narrowed to fit the tire. I'm considering a frame off and engine rebuild on it beginning sometime this year. Step son got it in Utah for $500. I was always doing the work on it so I convinced him to sell it to me and he can drive it when he visits. I think naming cars is faggotry but he called it the Guacamole Express and I kind of like it. I won't be cutting my balls off anytime soon, though.

Very nice! Your son got a good deal on that truck.

[Kevin68]

Closed or open cell foam?

Open. I've read up on all the debates concerning open vs. closed.

[DJ_Critterus]

I mean, technically at least, thread does deliver.

Why is she in there walking around without a broom in her hands? :willy:

[Kevin68]

I was just going by your statement that you'd run it continuous for your cars. I know Texas heat. During summer when the sun goes down, the ground starts baking you releasing day heat. Install a heat pump and be comfortable year around at pretty near 0 cost after installation. But yeah, 8 cents a Kwh is pretty hard to beat.
With a battery pack, you can have backup power in case of an outage as well.

It's not final decision, but first things first. I go through a summer and see what happens. I'll probably run the system full time, but not necessarily at comfortable working temperatures unless I'm working. Just enough to control moisture. The system is a heat pump with booster strips for heat.

[Kevin68]

Why is she in there walking around without a broom in her hands? :willy:

When she's not making me sammiches, she sweeps the floor and cleans up after me. She's a keeper for sure.

[Kevin68]

:cool: As a bit of a truck camper and classic car fan, I've had thoughts of pairing one of these up with a nice classic truck camper, but the reality is classic truck campers in nice shape are extremely rare and I don't think driving one of these trucks long distance would be very comfortable or relaxing. It would be super cool, but I probably wouldn't use it enough to make it worth while.

Unicorns actually, and without modern space utilization. Would not want to take it on a long trip, especially with currently no AC. After I cleaned out the rear gas tank and replaced the midship tank, I only use the midship tank and keep the other one dry.

[GTOguy]

One 5 Ton. I'm aware it's marginal for that volume. 2850 ft^2 conditioned space.



:nono: F-350. '74 Super Camper Special. 460 cid. The back axle is rearward and the spare goes in a hatch on the passenger side. Dual batteries and slide in camper connections in the bed. Frame is slightly narrowed to fit the tire. I'm considering a frame off and engine rebuild on it beginning sometime this year. Step son got it in Utah for $500. I was always doing the work on it so I convinced him to sell it to me and he can drive it when he visits. I think naming cars is faggotry but he called it the Guacamole Express and I kind of like it. I won't be cutting my balls off anytime soon, though.
Truck is too solid and original to do a frame off. They're only original once. Restore it and the history is wiped clean. Get the mechanicals overhauled and re-do the seat if needed and drive the wheels off of it. Old survivor vehicles are cool, especially era-specific ones like your green machine. :seasix:

[DJ_Critterus]

Closed or open cell foam?

What's the difference between the two?

[Aerovette]

What's the difference between the two?

Definitely. :D

The cells in one are open and the cells in the other are closed.

yw

[DJ_Critterus]

Definitely. :D

The cells in one are open and the cells in the other are closed.

yw

I figured that much out on my own :slap:

I meant, why choose one over the other? Pro's and con's of each?

fuggin dumbass comedians...:slap: :rolleyes:

[Yadkin]

What's the difference between the two?

Closed cell is denser, has a higher R value per thickness, and acts as its own moisture barrier.

[GTOguy]

So---open cell foam for air filters, closed cell for insulation. Got it. :)

[Mick]

A projection TV, min-bar and stripper pole and it would just about meet my standards.

I didn't figure you to be a pole dancer. I guess we all learn something new every day. :shrug:

[Rob]

:waiting:

[Kevin68]

Truck is too solid and original to do a frame off. They're only original once. Restore it and the history is wiped clean. Get the mechanicals overhauled and re-do the seat if needed and drive the wheels off of it. Old survivor vehicles are cool, especially era-specific ones like your green machine. :seasix:

IDK, I tend to think "patina" is Italian for "looks like shit." The PO fancied himself an electrician and butchered some of the wiring. The corners of the cab and the spare tire hatch have a little cancer, but no holes...yet. The underside has a fair bit of surface rust where the original underside coating flaked off, but the front frame is rust free from a coating of oil because...Ford. If I did it, I would keep the colors, 16.5" wheels and hubcaps and restore to look as original as I can afford to, but add AC, possibly a better radiator/electric fan, and more power, which was originally rated at 215 HP, but lots of low end torque. I'd keep the old CB and aftermarket 8-track.

At a minimum, I think I need to more fully assess and address any rust, electrical, and drivability issues, even if I just restore the chassis and put the body back on without painting it.

[GTOguy]

I agree the patina with clear coat or 'shine juice' over it looks contrived and crappy. Honest old paint, IMO, is fine. Better than shabby new paint. Where I am, the cost of a factory-quality paint job is currently $20,000 to $30,000 dollars, with about $6000 to $8000 in materials included. As for the rat rod thing, give me a break.
Neat truck, you'll do what you need to do. M&H makes great direct-fit wiring harnesses.

[Kevin68]

Closed cell is denser, has a higher R value per thickness, and acts as its own moisture barrier.

And...significantly higher cost per R-value. Because it is water and vapor impermeable, if moisture gets behind it there is no escape, which some have claimed has led to rot/rust. If a leak develops behind open cell you will find it much sooner. OTOH, open cell allows penetration of moist air which can condense and cause it's own moisture problems.

The web is full of articles arguing for one over the other. Preferences seem to be more regional. I went with what the local contractors use around here.

[Yadkin]

And...significantly higher cost per R-value. Because it is water and vapor impermeable, if moisture gets behind it there is no escape, which some have claimed has led to rot/rust. If a leak develops behind open cell you will find it much sooner. OTOH, open cell allows penetration of moist air which can condense and cause it's own moisture problems.

The web is full of articles arguing for one over the other. Preferences seem to be more regional. I went with what the local contractors use around here.

Your project is entirely different than mine. I'm all heat- no AC. Thus I need to prevent moisture penetration from the inside out. You have to keep moisture from the outside in.

[Aerovette]

Spray entire inside with bed liner, then closed cell.

YW