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dvarapala
01-26-2024, 7:45pm
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They should just fire the “employees” that don’t want to do what their “employers”, are telling them to do.
“They want me to come to the office!” “Oh, the Humanity!”
Don Rickles
01-27-2024, 8:44am
Give them an inch they want a mile
Rodnok1
01-27-2024, 8:49am
They should just fire the “employees” that don’t want to do what their “employers”, are telling them to do.
“They want me to come to the office!” “Oh, the Humanity!”
:withstupid:
Report for work this time and place or you're terminated... Simple enough.
Bunch of entitled little pricks think they can tell the boss what they will and won't do. :beatup:
mrvette
01-27-2024, 9:11am
That vid is getting to the point about the FACTS are that about 90% of office work can in fact be done from home with no issues......a development from the development of computers.....
I worked in several offices from insurance companies to engineering prototype development, to just simple small businesses.......
So obviously running a retail store demands on site work.....but the vast majority of business work/information is easy over the net, which is obviously not dependent on location, long as JOB DONE is the resolution.....:cert:
Vandelay Industries
01-27-2024, 9:16am
Take a shower, get dressed, and get back to the C(umdawg) Suite.
mrvette
01-27-2024, 9:23am
CF dont even have a small room let alone an office to run that operation, does it?? IB runs it from the $$$$$ side from some one person in a small office handling another dozen similar sites.....no biggie.....
the 'managers' that we 'know' of just do nothing most of the day there.....
slewfoot
01-27-2024, 9:30am
That vid is getting to the point about the FACTS are that about 90% of office work can in fact be done from home with no issues......a development from the development of computers.....
I worked in several offices from insurance companies to engineering prototype development, to just simple small businesses.......
So obviously running a retail store demands on site work.....but the vast majority of business work/information is easy over the net, which is obviously not dependent on location, long as JOB DONE is the resolution.....:cert:
CF dont even have a small room let alone an office to run that operation, does it?? IB runs it from the $$$$$ side from some one person in a small office handling another dozen similar sites.....no biggie.....
the 'managers' that we 'know' of just do nothing most of the day there.....
WTH? Who is this guy? :D
MadInNc
01-27-2024, 9:38am
They should do a Musk, fire 70% of the people and keep operating
Louie Detroit
01-27-2024, 10:21am
They should do a Musk, fire 70% of the people and keep operating
But but the MSM told us Twitter wouldn’t last the weekend when all that happened.
That vid is getting to the point about the FACTS are that about 90% of office work can in fact be done from home with no issues......a development from the development of computers.....
I worked in several offices from insurance companies to engineering prototype development, to just simple small businesses.......
So obviously running a retail store demands on site work.....but the vast majority of business work/information is easy over the net, which is obviously not dependent on location, long as JOB DONE is the resolution.....:cert:
But completely ignores human nature and the innate ability for some of us to not get the job done when nobody is watching.
I think employers are in the best position to decide where their employees do the work they are paying them to do. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see the democrats and blm, take on this issue, maybe burn down all those empty office buildings. “We shall overcome.” :lol:
04 commemorative
01-27-2024, 11:03am
When I had my company (with my partner" we had 7 floors in Mid Town Manhattan....yeah,I would want people to come into the offices !
Swany00
01-27-2024, 1:04pm
everyone is replaceable, even IB
CF dont even have a small room let alone an office to run that operation, does it?? IB runs it from the $$$$$ side from some one person in a small office handling another dozen similar sites.....no biggie.....
the 'managers' that we 'know' of just do nothing most of the day there.....
IB has the 10th floor in this building in El Segundo. This is PCH and Imperial. High dollar district for office space.
1 mile from beach, 0.5 miles to LAX.
The problem they face at HQ is that employees need to share apartments to live anywhere close to work. I was paying $2700 in 2020 for a 1 BR in the area. LA Times is experiencing same. Seeing $5k+ for three-bedrooms in town. Anything below $3k these days typically has no laundry or assigned parking.
People will continue to leave CA. Mostly those who get churned young and figure out that the money is transient at best in CA and you better be doing something that you enjoy, because thirty years is a long time to be dissatisfied.
Yes, employees have at times seemingly unreasonable expectations, and employers better figure this new system out. Merely commanding folks in without clear expectations of how that fits within a successful corporate strategy is a disaster, however employees making "demands" is clearly their signal that it's time for them to go.
DJ_Critterus
01-27-2024, 2:09pm
IB wants to micro manage the racism and woke bullshit they promote.
But completely ignores human nature and the innate ability for some of us to not get the job done when nobody is watching.
I think employers are in the best position to decide where their employees do the work they are paying them to do. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see the democrats and blm, take on this issue, maybe burn down all those empty office buildings. “We shall overcome.” :lol:
If I had some kind of work from home situation, I'd do everything possible to INCREASE my work output, or maybe ask for an additional task, something to indicate that I am MOAR productive with the work from home situation. Justify the increase with less distractions and using part of the commute time to devote to company business, actually increasing hours on the job.
Make your case that you've increased output, ask to continue the arrangement, or even, continue the arrangement a few days a week, but if push comes to shove, if you were hired to come work in an office, that's what you need to do. The unearned benefit you got because of the Wu flu scare is over.
If I was a manager, I'd let my superstars who are self directed continue to work from home, maybe have them come in one day a week just so everyone has face time, and concentrate my work in the office folks as the people that are NOT showing they are self directed. In other words, top performers get to keep the benefit for the most part, others don't. This would be either a morale buster, or an incentive for the low and middle performers to step things up and show maybe they should get another shot at work from home, maybe one or two days a week as long as productivity stays up?
Tikiman
01-27-2024, 2:30pm
Give them an inch they want a mile
They always do. This should make it easy for them to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Tikiman
01-27-2024, 2:36pm
If I had some kind of work from home situation, I'd do everything possible to INCREASE my work output, or maybe ask for an additional task, something to indicate that I am MOAR productive with the work from home situation. Justify the increase with less distractions and using part of the commute time to devote to company business, actually increasing hours on the job.
Make your case that you've increased output, ask to continue the arrangement, or even, continue the arrangement a few days a week, but if push comes to shove, if you were hired to come work in an office, that's what you need to do. The unearned benefit you got because of the Wu flu scare is over.
If I was a manager, I'd let my superstars who are self directed continue to work from home, maybe have them come in one day a week just so everyone has face time, and concentrate my work in the office folks as the people that are NOT showing they are self directed. In other words, top performers get to keep the benefit for the most part, others don't. This would be either a morale buster, or an incentive for the low and middle performers to step things up and show maybe they should get another shot at work from home, maybe one or two days a week as long as productivity stays up?
When I put in my retirement papers, my boss got a deer in the headlights look on his face. The next day, he and his boss visited my office and basically told me that I couldn't retire. I explained to them very nicely that I, indeed, could. The upshot was that they installed a secure VPN in my home and I spent the next three years working from home. The bastards actually ended up getting more hours out of me because I wasn't watching the clock knowing that I had to get on 66 westbound before 3:00. It was very rare to catch me in the office after 2:30 back then and I always left on Fridays at lunchtime. With the VPN, I would find myself sitting there working on something and realizing that it was getting dark outside. The insidious bastards! :rofl:
I found the last 2 years of my career working from home 70% of the time that I was totally willing to work odd hours to get a job done. The lack of the need to commute and put on clothes made up for it easily. Also, it helped transition into retirement. When I retired in 2021, I had been 'practicing' for almost 2 years at that point.
GrandSportC3
01-27-2024, 5:27pm
We had some people quit after we were required to return to the office for 3 days every week. We are losing lots of talent because of it. Many remote positions available.
When I put in my retirement papers, my boss got a deer in the headlights look on his face. The next day, he and his boss visited my office and basically told me that I couldn't retire. I explained to them very nicely that I, indeed, could. The upshot was that they installed a secure VPN in my home and I spent the next three years working from home. The bastards actually ended up getting more hours out of me because I wasn't watching the clock knowing that I had to get on 66 westbound before 3:00. It was very rare to catch me in the office after 2:30 back then and I always left on Fridays at lunchtime. With the VPN, I would find myself sitting there working on something and realizing that it was getting dark outside. The insidious bastards! :rofl:
I worked probably 65 - 70 hour average when I could work from home. Salaried. I hated leaving crap that I could work in the evening laying over until morning. It was all busy work, so watching Adult Swim while approving all the pay each week was fine.
I wrote full studies in my apartment. As a VP, your door was the employee door. I always had this policy, but when you ended up in an organization that had shitty management, the folks continually come to your office to tell you how to improve. Welcome, but time consuming. I ended up parsing the work between what could be done securely in the office, and what could be done at home. I found myself to be more creative at home, and more productive after 1800. Magic.
I still had probably 4-6 hours/day of work that could not be completed in the apartment, and many of my employees were at work 10+/day because they had no work that could be done at home.
We started recognizing the value of extended clearances in the 90's and began paying extra for keeping them. There were several employees that decided they wanted to work from home so we just debriefed them.
slewfoot
01-27-2024, 8:17pm
I never had a commute issue but played the hourly game. My hours 8-5pm. Problem I had was the constant interruptions. I started going in around 5:30-6am, working for free a couple hours.
I could get 3/4 of the workload done by 8am. Boss's knew but left it alone. I did this for several years. I was fine with so why rock the boat?
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