Well, Friday night, Im home alone, so here's a sad fixer upper post.

[zeek]

My cheap little patio furniture kept blowing over from the back bay breezes. I really like ol skool wrought iron patio furniture so I bought a used set to restore. This shit is heavy and I wont have to worry about it being blown into the canal. Took only three days to sand, prime and paint. I have more money invested in the paint and primer than the cost of the set....:yesnod:

PS. I gave the old set to the hoarder neighbor....:rofl:

[dvarapala]

Alone? She finally came to her senses? :shrug:

[zeek]

Oh yeah...here's the old cheap set...My neighbor loves it though..:D

[LATB]

https://youtu.be/D_P-v1BVQn8?si=OLO0e1Eq0acAr9C-

[zeek]

Alone? She finally came to her senses? :shrug:

No..she had to take a break from walking bow legged to work....:yesnod::D

[Steve_R]

Nice furniture. Gay color.

[Egnalf]

easy to see why the paint was cheap.

[LATB]

No..she had to take a break from walking bow legged to work....:yesnod::D

Well played :cert:

[zeek]

Nice furniture. Gay color.

It's called Seabreeze......:D

[John E]

That looks really sharp, the whole scene :yesnod::cert:

[zeek]

easy to see why the paint was cheap.

:confused5::confused5::confused5:

[Louie Detroit]

As usual the zeekster delivers. :D

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Very Miami Vice Crockett. :D

[ZipZap]

Nice furniture. Gay color.

It's called Seabreeze......:D

Very Miami Vice Crockett. :D

Needs more flamingo.

[Black94lt1]

Sandblast and powder coat

[Frankie the Fink]

You have a nice chunk of property and good job on the furniture. Smart doing this stuff when you're alone....the wifey (of 50 years) is the master of "project creep"... I wish "Chip and Joanne" of HGTV fame would self-immolate in greasy balls of flame - spouse gets that shit in her head and I pay the price.

I spent yesterday hauling 100 bags of pea gravel to place under my renovated deck....nearly killed an old man. Next week I'll start putting fascia around the exposed ends of the composite boards - man that stuff is Soooo much nicer and easier to maintain than wood - especially in the Florida environment. BUT, I had to add add'l joists down the entire pier and under both decks and add'l stair risers to support the stuff. And butyl joint tape over each joist. Ugh !
Then reinstall the SS wire railings....a PITA.

[TheHammer]

very pretty

[Don Rickles]

Since you're all warmed up here's a similar job waiting for you....

(breaking the Pissy ice, post......)

[Tikiman]

My cheap little patio furniture kept blowing over from the back bay breezes. I really like ol skool wrought iron patio furniture so I bought a used set to restore. This shit is heavy and I wont have to worry about it being blown into the canal. Took only three days to sand, prime and paint. I have more money invested in the paint and primer than the cost of the set....:yesnod:

PS. I gave the old set to the hoarder neighbor....:rofl:


Very nice job. Get yourself some orange seat cushions and you'll have Miami Dolphins colors.

[Don Rickles]

You have a nice chunk of property and good job on the furniture. Smart doing this stuff when you're alone....the wifey (of 50 years) is the master of "project creep"... I wish "Chip and Joanne" of HGTV fame would self-immolate in greasy balls of flame - spouse gets that shit in her head and I pay the price.

I spent yesterday hauling 100 bags of pea gravel to place under my renovated deck....nearly killed an old man. Next week I'll start putting fascia around the exposed ends of the composite boards - man that stuff is Soooo much nicer and easier to maintain than wood - especially in the Florida environment. BUT, I had to add add'l joists down the entire pier and under both decks and add'l stair risers to support the stuff. And butyl joint tape over each joist. Ugh !
Then reinstall the SS wire railings....a PITA.

Those stair horse should have full bearing at the bottom....They could easily crack along the grain, at the last tread/riser, the way they are shown....And I'd have doubled up on both the top and bottom at the horse connections....:yaddy:

[LATB]

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[slewfoot]

Since you're all warmed up here's a similar job waiting for you....

(breaking the Pissy ice, post......)



https://i.imgur.com/KR2Mcsf.jpg


You need to keep the fat ones off your patio

[Don Rickles]

Stairs were one of my specialties! A few examples to liven up this sad thread....

[Don Rickles]

https://i.imgur.com/KR2Mcsf.jpg


You need to keep the fat ones off your patio

These chairs and table are so GD heavy, you could drop a nut lifting them!

Waiting to read the post when "the hoarder" asks the OP to recuse his set from the bottom of the creek....

[LATB]

Stairs were one of my specialties! A few examples to livin up this sad thread....

God bless a Jewish carpenter. :cert:

[mrvette]

God bless a Jewish carpenter. :cert:

I was Orthodox when I built my back deck what looked just like the first one there, smaller setup/size deck with one landing and stairs off to the side.....

been a while.....call it 50 years.....

[Frankie the Fink]

Those stair horse should have full bearing at the bottom....They could easily crack along the grain, at the last tread/riser, the way they are shown....And I'd have doubled up on both the top and bottom at the horse connections....:yaddy:

Well there was no cracking before with the wood decking and only 3 stair risers so - doubtful, but I'll take another look anyway - I'm trainable..

Top joist rot was the main problem, seemed the top1/4 of nearly every joist crumbled away over 18 years due to moisture retention, hoping the butyl joist tape over the top stops that.

[LATB]

Well there was no cracking before with the wood decking and only 3 stair risers so - doubtful, but I'll take another look anyway - I'm trainable..

Top joist rot was the main problem, seemed the top1/4 of nearly every joist crumbled away over 18 years due to moisture retention, hoping the butyl joist tape over the top stops that.

Very common. Was the joists and decking similar or dissimilar woods?

[04 commemorative]

Looks great.....neighbor has set of cast aluminum and paint id chipping and pealing off. Her husband used to touch it up every year but he's passed now. I told her maybe bting a piece and opics of the rest to an auto body shop and maybe they would give her a price to blast it and paint it with auto paint .....

[ColeTrickle]

My cheap little patio furniture kept blowing over from the back bay breezes. I really like ol skool wrought iron patio furniture so I bought a used set to restore. This shit is heavy and I wont have to worry about it being blown into the canal. Took only three days to sand, prime and paint. I have more money invested in the paint and primer than the cost of the set....:yesnod:

PS. I gave the old set to the hoarder neighbor....:rofl:
Sacre bleu color

[Bill]

There's a photo shop opportunity here to put DJ's car next to this patio furniture.

[Big bob]

Nice job I hope your good deed giving the old set away doesn't bite you in the ass when you hit it with your prop.:sadangel: I see you went with the sling setup. So what is your next project? :seasix:

[zeek]

Nice job I hope your good deed giving the old set away doesn't bite you in the ass when you hit it with your prop.:sadangel: I see you went with the sling setup. So what is your next project? :seasix:

Yes...I went with the advice of my contractor. He said his boat and several other customers are using the sling for years with no problem. So...we'll see...:yesnod:

Next project will be putting a roof/cover over it....:seasix:

[Big bob]

Keep in mind to make it perch and nest resistance. :seasix:

[GTOguy]

Since you're all warmed up here's a similar job waiting for you....

(breaking the Pissy ice, post......)

Now that's a decent color. I like Zeek, but IMO his choice of color is too gaudy. Is he part Indian or Mexican, perhaps?

[ColeTrickle]

Now that's a decent color. I like Zeek, but IMO his choice of color is too gaudy. Is he part Indian or Mexican, perhaps?

Sacre bleu is Cajun Clouseau

[Frankie the Fink]

Very common. Was the joists and decking similar or dissimilar woods?

All pressure treated southern pine, some of it was ground contact rated (upright posts I replaced) The bottom of each stair riser is resting on a 2x6 crossbeam; I just checked; I'm not worried about them...

[LATB]

All pressure treated southern pine, some of it was ground contact rated (upright posts I replaced) The bottom of each stair riser is resting on a 2x6 crossbeam; I just checked; I'm not worried about them...

That's unusual for PT pine. I have seen real bad cases of the top of the PT joists rotting when Ipe or other dissimular wood decking is used.

Recently did a dock repair where cypress decking was used over PT joists...a total cluster.

[Mick]

Stairs were one of my specialties! A few examples to liven up this sad thread....

IMO: Stairs are hard!

In 1997, we had a deck built off the main level of our raised ranch, with stairs down to the lawn, maybe 9-10 feet below, similar to your pictures. I wanted a landing, and the contractor we hired talked us out of it. When he built the stairs, the last stair at the top before stepping onto the deck was only about 3 inches wide! I said it was unacceptable, he argued, I said "fine, let's see if the town inspector will accept this". Obviously, it failed. Guy rebuilt the whole staircase, which still really sucked, but he got it passed (I always suspected he paid off the inspector).

2004, I had other problems with the house, and hired a contractor to take care of those problems, and also to rebuild the stairs with the landing I wanted from the beginning. These stairs sucked really bad too, and failed due to the contractor not digging to 36" down, and pouring proper footings. We KNOW he paid off the inspector, so we got stuck with another set of shitty stairs with major out of square problems, and no footings in some locations.

2016, I "semi-retired", and took on rebuilding the stairs myself. I dug all the proper footings, but it being my first set of stairs, I made some mistakes, and although they were better than the previous two attempts, they still weren't "good".

2019: I did a partial rebuild, and totally nailed the lower part of the staircase! The upper part is still not really "right". Better than all of the previous three attempts, but still not what I want.

Education is expensive. :yesnod:

[Onebadcad]

Sorry, cannot get past the color.
All things are own are black or gray, or gray/black, or black/gray.
Wifey respects that, and for that I love here.

But, your shit, do it however you want, as none of us matter.

[zeek]

Sorry, cannot get past the color.
All things are own are black or gray, or gray/black, or black/gray.
Wifey respects that, and for that I love here.

But, your shit, do it however you want, as none of us matter.

:iagree: exactly.....:yesnod: :seasix:

[Yadkin]

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Deep cuts like that not only weaken the lumber, but expose untreated wood to the elements. There is literally no need for those cuts, as the conduit could easily be hung underneath using stainless screws and pvc hangers.

[Don Rickles]

IMO: Stairs are hard!


Education is expensive. :yesnod:
Thread highjack....

Stairs and roof rafters are normally the most difficult parts of a building to construct. After mastering rafters, I moved onto stairs. This was during my apprenticeship back in the 70's building custom homes (million dollar mansions). The most common mistake made when cutting a stair horse is forgetting to remove the thickness of the tread material from the bottom of the first riser. My teacher allowed me to finish building a set of stairs one day, at the end of the day he said, "rip it down!" I asked why. He said walk up the steps and then come back down. As I stepped off the last step, I tripped as it was 1" higher than the others.. Needless to say, I never made that mistake again.

Those couple examples shown above, with the landings/turns and rails made for a nice challenge. There's so many small details and tricks involved most don't realize the math it takes. All the posts line up and are pinned between two horses. I give the bottoms full bearing and the tops are built into the floor of the main decks/landings.

I built these two for free for a friends mother, after the hurricane Sandy wiped out so many house along the Jersey shore. We lifted her house 8' and rebuilt it completely. She bought us lunch every day!

[Yadkin]

Thread highjack....

Stairs and roof rafters are normally the most difficult parts of a building to construct. After mastering rafters, I moved onto stairs. This was during my apprenticeship back in the 70's building custom homes (million dollar mansions). The most common mistake made when cutting a stair horse is forgetting to remove the thickness of the tread material from the bottom of the first riser. My teacher allowed me to finish building a set of stairs one day, at the end of the day he said, "rip it down!" I asked why. He said walk up the steps and then come back down. As I stepped off the last step, I tripped as it was 1" higher than the others.. Needless to say, I never made that mistake again.

Those couple examples shown above, with the landings/turns and rails made for a nice challenge. There's so many small details and tricks involved most don't realize the math it takes. All the posts line up and are pinned between two horses. I give the bottoms full bearing and the tops are built into the floor of the main decks/landings.

I built these two for free for a friends mother, after the hurricane Sandy wiped out so many house along the Jersey shore. We lifted her house 8' and rebuilt it completely. She bought us lunch every day!

I never heard the slanted framing members called horses. Must a local term. I've called them carriages; though often heard the term stringer, or cut stringer. :seasix:

[Don Rickles]

I never heard the slanted framing members called horses. Must a local term. I've called them carriages; though often heard the term stringer, or cut stringer. :seasix:

Google it. Horses or Stringer=same. Common term in the field....:slap:

[LATB]

During my carpentry days I was called upon on many occasion to build a set of stairs. :yesnod:

From the framing...stringers, and landings and turn backs, etc...

To the finish. Including tread/riser/skirt and posts and handrail. In both contemporary and traditional styles, with newels and volutes and balusters.

I've done many of stairways like this:
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[Don Rickles]

During my carpentry days I was called upon on many occasion to build a set of stairs. :yesnod:

From the framing...stringers, and landings and turn backs, etc...

To the finish. Including tread/riser/skirt and posts and handrail. In both contemporary and traditional styles, with newels and volutes and balusters.

I've done many of stairways like this:

Same....too many to remember. I'd cut drywall from the ceilings, then screw upward into to bottom of the newel posts thru the subfloor. Often, I'd patch in the drywall spackle tape and finish it. People would ask how did I secure the post so strong! Circular stairs were a lot of fun too! Ahh the saw dust in my lungs!

[Don Rickles]

Sorry, cannot get past the color.
All things are own are black or gray, or gray/black, or black/gray.
Wifey respects that, and for that I love here.

But, your shit, do it however you want, as none of us matter.

Pity you feel that way really....

VBLM

:yesnod:

[LATB]

Same....too many to remember. I'd cut drywall from the ceilings, then screw upward into to bottom of the newel posts thru the subfloor. Often, I'd patch in the drywall spackle tape and finish it. People would ask how did I secure the post so strong! Circular stairs were a lot of fun too! Ahh the saw dust in my lungs!

Indeed.
The best newel posts are installed super securely during the framing.
I like a 4x4 post during framing that it wrapped out with trim during trim.
But some don’t like the heavy look so as you posted there are ways to secure the newel posts.

[Yadkin]

Google it. Horses or Stringer=same. Common term in the field....:slap:

Common term in your neck of the woods. Here, we've gone horseless years ago...