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Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:15pm
I tried, but cannot find ANY poll to prove that Trump's magnetism is fading.
To the contrary, based on today's polling I do not see a single canidiate remaining after South Carolina, as it takes money, to get money you need votes, votes prove legitimacy, and none of these losers are getting any votes.
I hate, actually I don't, to say I told you so, but I TOLD YOU SO!!
Here is the latest, from FRIDAY SEP 18:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/15/desantis-polls-poor-showing/
New polls this week lays bare just how poorly things have gone for the governor. While DeSantis arguably remains the biggest of the minor hurdles Trump needs to clear, his electoral case has effectively collapsed alongside his poll numbers.
The national polls from Fox News and Quinnipiac University show Trump expanding his lead over DeSantis to 47 and 50 points, respectively. Those are Trump’s largest margins to date in high-quality national polls of the race. And thus his lead in the FiveThirtyEight polling average has expanded to a whopping 41 points.
Seven months ago, before DeSantis announced his campaign, he had crawled to within just 2 points of Trump. On top of those two polls came a Washington Post/Monmouth University survey in South Carolina that shows DeSantis in fourth place at 9 percent.
Is the end goal to win the nomination or the general election?
Trump WILL be the nominee. And if the republicans can beat the cheat, Trump will be the president in January 2025.
Is the end goal to win the nomination or the general election?
Both. He will get the nomination. The general election is contingent on the level of corruption the democrats are able to pull off.
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:18pm
Is the end goal to win the nomination or the general election?
Both, his last name is not mittens!!
Both. He will get the nomination. The general election is contingent on the level of corrupting the democrats are able to pull off.
Good luck winning the general with Trump. :seasix:
But yes, the GOP will nominate him anyways.
Both. He will get the nomination. The general election is contingent on the level of corruption the democrats are able to pull off.
BS, the results of the general are the sum total of your actions in the eyes of the electorate.
This country will never elect a twice impeached, 4 time indicted ex-president facing 91 criminal charges so there better be a good plan to beat the dems or there's going to be a lot of wasted MAGA votes.
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:22pm
Trump WILL be the nominee. And if the republicans can beat the cheat, Trump will be the president in january 2035.
Again, this is simple shit:
1) DO NOT SPEND $700+B on media, this gets you no votes
2) Make sure all pubs get to the polls, you have their addresses and some email and / or cell phones, get them all out to vote
3) contact all pubs who have moved to different states and make sure they are registered
4) spend a shit ton on poll workers and people to film drop boxes, and have attorneys on-site who are ready to file suits
You CANNOT beat the thieves with traditional thinking, you have to think as them, and be preemptive.
Money is not an issue when you stop pissing money away on 30-second ads that sway NO ONE!!
Again, this is simple shit:
1) DO NOT SPEND $700+B on media, this gets you no votes
2) Make sure all pubs get to the polls, you have their addresses and some email and / or cell phones, get them all out to vote
3) contact all pubs who have moved to different states and make sure they are registered
4) spend a shit ton on poll workers and people to film drop boxes, and have attorneys on-site who are ready to file suits
You CANNOT beat the thieves with traditional thinking, you have to think as them, and be preemptive.
Money is not an issue when you stop pissing money away on 30-second ads that sway NO ONE!!
and it still won't be enough, simply not enough MAGAs left.
cptlo306
09-18-2023, 1:24pm
Trump WILL be the nominee. And if the republicans can beat the cheat, Trump will be the president in january 2035.
I can guarantee 100% that Trump will not be the president in January 2035.
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:24pm
Oh, forgot, get your damn GOP governor, senate and congresspeople in place TODAY, do not get stuck with people like oz.
I can guarantee 100% that Trump will not be the president in January 2035.
Yea, I wanted to be decided not to go there. :D
Then again he thinks he's leading Obama in the polls "by a lot" so there is that.
cptlo306
09-18-2023, 1:28pm
No primary votes have been made yet. Trump will lose Iowa and NH to DeSantis. Bookmark this...you heard it here first.
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:30pm
I can guarantee 100% that Trump will not be the president in January 2035.
Yes he will:
1) wins in 2025
2) wins again in 2029, which is two consecutive terms, his 2017 is not counted
3) finishes out in 2033, takes a respite
4) returns in 2035 to force a special election for POTUS, which he wins
5) runs again for re-election in 2039 and wins
6) retires in 2043 to run The DOJ and FBI
Donald John Trump
45th POTUS
47th POTUS
49th POTUS
POTUS EMIRITUS
Yes he will:
1) wins in 2025
2) wins again in 2029, which is two consecutive terms, his 2017 is not counted
3) finishes out in 2033, takes a respite
4) returns in 2035 to force a special election for POTUS, which he wins
5) runs again for re-election in 2039 and wins
6) retires in 2043 to run The DOJ and FBI
Donald John Trump
45th POTUS
47th POTUS
49th POTUS
POTUS EMIRITUS
Typical MAGA, screw the American political process because Trump!
https://media.patriots.win/post/CSDtEDN2jgSi.png
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:38pm
BS, the results of the general are the sum total of your actions in the eyes of the electorate.
This country will never elect a twice impeached, 4 time indicted ex-president facing 91 criminal charges so there better be a good plan to beat the dems or there's going to be a lot of wasted MAGA votes.
You are not playing along.
You have stated infinite times that Trump will not win the primaries.
Not sure who is your candidate, but you spend more time blasting Trump than promoting your own,,, who is it again??
I post today the most recent poll data, Trump is destroying the field.
You ignore all this and state Trump cannot win the general--NEWSFLASH, one must first win the primaries to get to the general.
Also, check out the polls, Trump is beating depends joe in most, and is very strong with the independents, with upward trending.
You hate Trump, and you will never be able to get past that fact, it dominates you 24/7/365,,, thankfully your vote is not needed to win!!
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 1:38pm
Typical MAGA, screw the American political process because Trump!
Humor does not escape you,,,
Typical MAGA, screw the American political process because Trump!
Did you see the Star Trek movie, "The Wrath of Khan?"
Remember when he quoted Moby Dick? "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee!"
That's Trump voters. You're never going to break them, you can either begrudgingly vote for him, maybe as he's languishing in a Georgia jail, or not. They can't make you do anything, can't sway you if you don't want to be swayed, and likewise, THEY will never be swayed. Never. So there it is.
Khan was going to lead his people to freedom, or die trying. And Khan's people were loyal because Khan was loyal to them.
And then ask yourself why people have such a connection to a NYC billionaire. They obviously felt no connection to Bloomberg, if you'll recall, despite the amount of money he spent. Ask yourself why, even with not a few failures, bad staffing being one of them, these people STILL won't be moved, won't be persuaded. And finally, ask yourself, have you ever seen anything like that in politics, in your lifetime.
I stood in line all night to get tickets to see Reagan speak at my university. Reagan was popular, but even Reagan didn't have the level of devotion that Trump does. Ask why. It's not because he's a cult leader. Many are put off by his sometimes cringeworthy tweets and Truths. Yet they'll still stick with him like glue. Why?
I can guarantee 100% that Trump will not be the president in January 2035.
:rofl::rofl:
Vandelay Industries
09-18-2023, 1:47pm
Typical MAGA, screw the American political process because Trump!
You don't mind the judicial process being bastardized, because Trump. :spdchk:
But make a joke about Trump staying in office and....:funnier:
cptlo306
09-18-2023, 1:50pm
Also, check out the polls, Trump is beating depends joe in most, and is very strong with the independents, with upward trending.
Have you looked at the crosstabs of some of those polls? Many have Trump winning a much higher percentage of certain groups than he won in 2016 or 2020. Not realistic.
I guarantee if Trump wins the nomination, the very next day polls will show him losing to Biden by at least 5%. Everyone except non-Trumper conservatives wants Trump to the Republican nominee. Many Democrats have stated it publicly.
Have you looked at the crosstabs of some of those polls? Many have Trump winning a much higher percentage of certain groups than he won in 2016 or 2020. Not realistic.
I guarantee if Trump wins the nomination, the very next day polls will show him losing to Biden by at least 5%. Everyone except non-Trumper conservatives wants Trump to the Republican nominee. Many Democrats have stated it publicly.
Remember when it was Bob Dole's turn to get the nomination, and the RNC made that happen, despite the fact he was going to be defeated in the general? It was his turn. He was the selected one, and that was that. (sound familiar?)
And now the RNC is butthurt that R voters want to select their own champion, win or lose. Hypocritical.
Steve_R
09-18-2023, 1:59pm
A year is an eternity in politics and elections. Predicting anything now is either wild guessing or a fool's game. Lots can happen to both parties and both presumed candidates in the next year.
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 2:00pm
Have you looked at the crosstabs of some of those polls? Many have Trump winning a much higher percentage of certain groups than he won in 2016 or 2020. Not realistic.
I guarantee if Trump wins the nomination, the very next day polls will show him losing to Biden by at least 5%. Everyone except non-Trumper conservatives wants Trump to the Republican nominee. Many Democrats have stated it publicly.
You are looking too far ahead, if I were a betting man I would bet today newsum over depends joe for the socialist nomination.
You are not playing along.
You have stated infinite times that Trump will not win the primaries.
Not sure who is your candidate, but you spend more time blasting Trump than promoting your own,,, who is it again??
I post today the most recent poll data, Trump is destroying the field.
You ignore all this and state Trump cannot win the general--NEWSFLASH, one must first win the primaries to get to the general.
Also, check out the polls, Trump is beating depends joe in most, and is very strong with the independents, with upward trending.
You hate Trump, and you will never be able to get past that fact, it dominates you 24/7/365,,, thankfully your vote is not needed to win!!
Another typical Onebadcad MAGA rant. I have never said he can't win the primaries and have said he will unless MAGAs pull their collective heads out and realize he can't win the general and I don't care what the polls for that say at this point.
So much will still happen between now and the heat of the election season in 2024. Good Lord he was on Meet the Press this weekend talking about leading Obama in the polls and Biden leading the country into WWII. He still has more than a year to provide more evidence that he's not fit to lead.
But yea, beat that dead horse. I think it's safe to say that my dislike of Trump matches yours for Biden, am I right?
You don't mind the judicial process being bastardized, because Trump. :spdchk:
But make a joke about Trump staying in office and....:funnier:
I forgot, everyone is picking on Donald. Forgive me. :D
Onebadcad
09-18-2023, 2:05pm
Another typical Onebadcad MAGA rant. I have never said he can't win the primaries and have said he will unless MAGAs pull their collective heads out and realize he can't win the general and I don't care what the polls for that say at this point.
So much will still happen between now and the heat of the election season in 2024. Good Lord he was on Meet the Press this weekend talking about leading Obama in the polls and Biden leading the country into WWII. He still has more than a year to provide more evidence that he's not fit to lead.
But yea, beat that dead horse. I think it's safe to say that my dislike of Trump matches yours for Biden, am I right?
I hate all socialists equally, including those who voted for depends joe but claim they are conservative.
mittens, mclame, mcconnell and others are also on my list.
Steve_R
09-18-2023, 2:23pm
I think it's safe to say that my dislike of Trump matches yours for Biden, am I right?
Why? Trump is a horse's ass at times, but the country was doing well under him economically (which matters a whole lot). Biden is an incompetent guy with obviously failing mental health, and the country under him is not doing well economically.
Personally I don't much "like" either of them, but I'll take Trump's record as POTUS over Biden any day.
Vandelay Industries
09-18-2023, 2:32pm
I forgot, everyone is picking on Donald. Forgive me. :D
More proof that leftists love their Marxist police state tactics.
cptlo306
09-18-2023, 2:38pm
You are looking too far ahead, if I were a betting man I would bet today newsum over depends joe for the socialist nomination.
Agreed and in that case, the polls if Trump wins the nomination will show him losing by even more to Newsom.
Agreed and in that case, the polls if Trump wins the nomination will show him losing by even more to Newsom.
I'm fine with that. The country is gone anyway, thanks to the 1964 Immigration Act. Between that and the loose fiscal policy, that includes Trump, we're finished. I understand that. It's truly over, the only question is when do we officially go full Venezuela or full Zaire.
Still voting Trump. Michael Moore explains why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_y1TC5w--w
cptlo306
09-18-2023, 3:00pm
I'm fine with that. The country is gone anyway, thanks to the 1964 Immigration Act. Between that and the loose fiscal policy, that includes Trump, we're finished. I understand that. It's truly over, the only question is when do we officially go full Venezuela or full Zaire.
Still voting Trump.
Alrighty then...
The TDS is strong in this thread.
BRUIZER
09-18-2023, 5:37pm
The TDS is strong in this thread.
I'm STILL waiting on the "after debate upwards bump" for DeSantis the TDS infected boasted would occur. :rofl:
Whatever the TDS infected state publicly, believe the opposite! :seasix:
slewfoot
09-18-2023, 5:42pm
Did you see the Star Trek movie, "The Wrath of Khan?"
Remember when he quoted Moby Dick? "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee!"
Don't forgets Trumps genetically engineered intellect that he has been able to survive
https://media.scored.co/post/L9aXXJUTPt52.jpeg
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