I've Been Curious. (Motorcycle Content)

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I've been curious about this motorcycle for a few years now so today I rode out to a local Ducati dealer and took one out.

This is a Ducati Diavel;

V4
1,158 cc
168 hp
465 lb.
MSRP $26,995

The black one was the demo bike, but they do have a red available. (It'd be red for me) This ain't no Harley. :Jeff '79:

[Bill]

Thomas is coming out as bike-curious.

I mean, I guess it really wasn't a surprise. NTTAWWT







Edit: Those bikes aren't to my taste, personally, but I can recognize work of art styling, and they're no doubt scary fast. I wouldn't be coordinated enough to do justice to those bikes.

[Unsuspicious]

Uncle has one. Well, ex-uncle. Aunt divorced him for spending her money on things like the Ducati lol
I imagine it feels like riding a goldwing except higher levels of smug.

[gs568]

Beautiful motorcycles. Had 3 of them over the years. The “Ferrari” of motorcycles.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

The “Ferrari” of motorcycles.
Not sure I agree with that but I've certainly heard it before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R47v4QmCd0

[Torqaholic]

Pulled up some vids to hear what it sounds like. Was hard to hear anything with those tennis shoe wearing motormouths constantly yapping away. What little I did hear didn't thrill me.

HP isn't everything IMO. Gotta have the torque. Doubt it'd pull away from my Valk before I hit the aerodynamic drag wall. No problem though, I'm not a triple digit kinda guy.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Pulled up some vids to hear what it sounds like. Was hard to hear anything with those tennis shoe wearing motormouths constantly yapping away. What little I did hear didn't thrill me.

HP isn't everything IMO. Gotta have the torque. Doubt it'd pull away from my Valk before I hit the aerodynamic drag wall. No problem though, I'm not a triple kinda guy.

My H-Ds make gobs of low end torque which means you're not constantly sloshing through the gear box. This Ducati was MUCH different. I was only out for a hour and I bet I changed gears 2000 times. :Jeff '79:

[kingpin]

C'mon, you didn't fit in that seat. :D

[Torqaholic]

My H-Ds make gobs of low end torque which means you're not constantly sloshing through the gear box. This Ducati was MUCH different. I was only out for a hour and I bet I changed gears 2000 times. :Jeff '79:

Yup, that one video I watched the guy wanted to see if he could complete turning a corner from a stop before needing to shift up to second :rofl:

Almost got squished from behind by a jacked up monster truck once.
Stopped on a yellow light to let the oncoming car complete his turn. When I heard tires squallering up behind me I whacked open the throttle aiming to t-bone that turning car. The guy saw what was happening and pegged it to get out of my way. Super close call. Point being I hit 90mph in first gear... Letting off the throttle isn't much of an option when holding on has priority :rofl:

[MikeB]

I appreciate the older 2 cylinder Ducs.
These newer models you posted, not so much.
I'm too old for that.
:sadangel:

[donuts]

I have not ridden nor heard the music that comes from the V4 but I have the Vtwin and it’s was sex.. that red one looks bad ass and I wouldn’t hesitate

[BayouCountry]

A friend recently picked up a Ducati Scrambler 800 for his first ride. He has no regrets after 4 or 5 months; even more so after adding a windshield.

[Bruze]

I've been curious about this motorcycle for a few years now so today I rode out to a local Ducati dealer and took one out.

This is a Ducati Diavel;

V4
1,158 cc
168 hp
465 lb.
MSRP $26,995

https://i.ibb.co/Jxy14sZ/Red-Ducati.jpg

The black one was the demo bike, but they do have a red available. (It'd be red for me) This ain't no Harley. :Jeff '79:

:Jeff '79: You could herd cattle between the fender and rear tire!

What a motorcycle is supposed to look like:

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[Burro (He/Haw)]

:Jeff '79: You could herd cattle between the fender and rear tire!

What a motorcycle is supposed to look like:

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I've already got two of those but thanks. :yesnod:

[Onebadcad]

I have yet to buy a motorcycle, as feel too many babes would be all over me, and I really need to limit that.

[Torqaholic]

I have yet to buy a motorcycle, as feel too many babes would be all over me, and I really need to limit that.

A comfort engineer can be very handy on a long ride but they're a lot like guns, even if you have several they're only useful one at a time.

[Torqaholic]

Sounds pretty good with an aftermarket exhaust inside a parking ramp :D

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[Yadkin]

Yup, that one video I watched the guy wanted to see if he could complete turning a corner from a stop before needing to shift up to second :rofl:

Almost got squished from behind by a jacked up monster truck once.
Stopped on a yellow light to let the oncoming car complete his turn. When I heard tires squallering up behind me I whacked open the throttle aiming to t-bone that turning car. The guy saw what was happening and pegged it to get out of my way. Super close call. Point being I hit 90mph in first gear... Letting off the throttle isn't much of an option when holding on has priority :rofl:

This is why I quit riding 30 years ago.

[Torqaholic]

This is why I quit riding 30 years ago.

My dad only ever rode a motorcycle once and I was there to see it. Going downhill offroad he hit the front brake stopping the bike in its tracks. Rear end came up and he went over the handlebars. I bet that bike still lives in a box somewhere :rofl:

[LATB]

That Ducati Diavel is one God awful ugly motorcycle. :ack:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

That Ducati Diavel is one God awful ugly motorcycle. :ack:

This, coming from a guy who drives a Ford. :Jeff '79:

[LATB]

This, coming from a guy who drives a Ford. :Jeff '79:

A contractor friend of mine just picked up a Silverado 3500 High Country...that is a damn good looking truck.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

A contractor friend of mine just picked up a Silverado 3500 High Country...that is a damn good looking truck.

When I bought my 2021 I looked at a High Country. I liked everything about it but the painted bumpers. In the end I just couldn't do painted bumpers.

[LATB]

When I bought my 2021 I looked at a High Country. I liked everything about it but the painted bumpers. In the end I just couldn't do painted bumpers.

My 2021 F250 Platinum has painted bumpers, I like it. Was not a fan of the dash/interior on the Silverado then but the new one looks a lot better.

I am not in the market for a new truck (shocking huh? :Jeff '79:) but if I was I'd probably give the Silverado HD a serious look. I like them and they are much more available than the SuperDuty. I think Ford is moving to a custom order business plan for the SuperDuty trucks.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

My 2021 F250 Platinum has painted bumpers, I like it. Was not a fan of the dash/interior on the Silverado then but the new one looks a lot better.

I am not in the market for a new truck (shocking huh? :Jeff '79:) but if I was I'd probably give the Silverado HD a serious look. I like them and they are much more available than the SuperDuty. I think Ford is moving to a custom order business plan for the SuperDuty trucks.

I'm gonna take a better look at GMC for my next one. 1/2 ton though. :yesnod:

[LATB]

I'm gonna take a better look at GMC for my next one. 1/2 ton though. :yesnod:

The Denali grill is MASSIVE :willy:

The AT4 looks better IMO :cert:

[snide]

Ducati? Go Monster or go home. :yesnod:

[Bill]

I dislike painted bumpers. In less upside down world times, painted bumpers were for work trucks, Chrome bumpers were for the nicer, more well appointed trucks. The Custom and Cheyenne packages had painted bumpers, the Silverado had chrome bumpers.

We should get back to that.

[CurtP]

What a motorcycle is supposed to look like:
:ack:

[RedLS1GTO]

If only you knew someone who works on Ducs for a living... :D

Personally, I love everything about the Diavel... except for the resale market.

I imagine it feels like riding a goldwing except higher levels of smug.

Not even in the ballpark of a 37 ton Goldwing.

Pulled up some vids to hear what it sounds like. Was hard to hear anything with those tennis shoe wearing motormouths constantly yapping away. What little I did hear didn't thrill me.

Listen in person. You may change your mind.

HP isn't everything IMO. Gotta have the torque. Doubt it'd pull away from my Valk before I hit the aerodynamic drag wall. No problem though, I'm not a triple digit kinda guy.

I hate to break it to you, but you'll see nothing but that big 240 tire from the word go. The Duc has 94lb-ft of torque vs a Valkyrie at about 96... and it weighs 200lbs less. Not to mention traction control, way stickier tire, etc.

I have not ridden nor heard the music that comes from the V4 but I have the Vtwin and it’s was sex.. that red one looks bad ass and I wouldn’t hesitate

These sound amazing, especially with a nice (Termi) exhaust... but there's nothing quite like the old twins.

Ducati? Go Monster or go home. :yesnod:

I cannot think of a worse answer. And that's from an admitted Duc fanboy. :willy:


Short answer, the resale on the Diavel is pretty awful as it is a bike that clearly has divided opinions. Other than that. They're awesome and they certainly get attention everywhere they go. The days of nightmare Ducati maintenance are pretty well behind. They still have a significant amount, but nothing like the seemingly daily valve jobs of the older versions. They are also oddly comfortable to ride (at least in my opinion).

[markyerger]

The exhaust looks like 4 rocket launchers
:D

[Torqaholic]

I hate to break it to you, but you'll see nothing but that big 240 tire from the word go. The Duc has 94lb-ft of torque vs a Valkyrie at about 96... and it weighs 200lbs less. Not to mention traction control, way stickier tire, etc.
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Assuming I haven't made any modifications? But I have and the torque is a just a tad bit more than 96 ft-lbs. As for weight, I'd say it's more like a 300 pound difference... And that is my traction control. It's like the Z06 with a full grown passenger, or loaded with two carts of groceries on board, grip like no tomorrow :yesnod:

[Bruze]

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[Torqaholic]

At least she isn't wearing tennis shoes :D

[Bill]

Assuming she goes down (no pun intended) on her front, at least that leather g-string thing will provide some road rash protection for her who-ha.

Boots and helmet look OK, she does need gloves, though.......

[Bruze]

FWIW I took that pik, was in the '90s sometime. :hurray:

[Yadkin]

My dad only ever rode a motorcycle once and I was there to see it. Going downhill offroad he hit the front brake stopping the bike in its tracks. Rear end came up and he went over the handlebars. I bet that bike still lives in a box somewhere :rofl:

That must have been one of those off-road motorcycles with huge suspension travel.

I owned three bikes. My last was a '79 Kawasaki KZ650C. The C meant it had cast wheels and triple disc brakes. I used to practice stopping at speed to keep the rear tire planted. Two discs upfront meant that thing could stop on a dime.

[RedLS1GTO]

Assuming I haven't made any modifications? But I have and the torque is a just a tad bit more than 96 ft-lbs. As for weight, I'd say it's more like a 300 pound difference... And that is my traction control. It's like the Z06 with a full grown passenger, or loaded with two carts of groceries on board, grip like no tomorrow :yesnod:

Sorry man, unless you have something beyond "normal" modifications, that Duc will still obliterate it. If you want to start counting modifications, a simple tune and exhaust puts the Diavel at another level.




Not really sure what year or exact model your Valkyrie may be, but this was the OLD Diavel... which is slower than the new V4.

https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/12/22/ducati-diavel-carbon-vs-honda-gold-wing-valkyrie-cruiser-comparison-test-motorcycle-review/

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Sorry man, unless you have something beyond "normal" modifications, that Duc will still obliterate it. If you want to start counting modifications, a simple tune and exhaust puts the Diavel at another level.

Gotta say I do like the trellis frame on the X Diavel but I don't care for the available color configurations.

[Torqaholic]

Good read, thanks for the link :seasix: A second and half faster in the quarter isn't exactly leaving the Valk in the dust though. I'd say it keeps up pretty good.

Performance mods I have are air box/jets/timing advance/free flow mufflers. She's pretty frisky.

[CurtP]

I've been curious about this motorcycle for a few years now so today I rode out to a local Ducati dealer and took one out.

This is a Ducati Diavel;

V4
1,158 cc
168 hp
465 lb.
MSRP $26,995

The black one was the demo bike, but they do have a red available. (It'd be red for me) This ain't no Harley. :Jeff '79:
Are you getting it? I've been considering a SuperSport 950, but I lust for the Panigale.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Are you getting it?
Here’s where I’m at with the whole deal. In about two weeks I’m going to be working 7 days a week, 10 hours a day until early December. I might get out for a short putt but my riding season here in MN effectively over. Getting a new motorcycle with only two weeks left in the season doesn’t make a great deal of sense.

That being the case this’ll wait until next spring when I can get it and ride it.

[LATB]

I’m going to be working 7 days a week, 10 hours a day until early December.

Ka-Ching

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Ka-Ching

Always a good thing. It’s gonna be a f’d up fall but they always are.

[RedLS1GTO]

This thread got me thinking about my favorite bikes...

The white 1198 was an absolute beast. 200+ whp and absolutely violent. No traction control, no anything. An absolute death machine. But so damn fun.

The Aprilia is without a doubt the "best" bike I've ever been on. It is so indescribably fast that ... well... I can't describe it. No idea how much power it had, but with the exhaust, tune, etc it was certainly a few over the already insane 201hp factory number. Launch control, wheelie control, stability control, crazy ABS. In the exact opposite approach as the 1198, it makes it almost impossible to put it on the ground. I'm a skeptic of technology in general, but it was truly incredible.

But...

But.

None of them will ever top the 1 bike I wish I had back.

My 2001 748S.

It was far from the fastest. Not the most reliable. Uncomfortable. And still the most amazing motorcycle I have ever owned. That sound. :cool:

[sublime1996525]

I’m a fan. Do it.

[Yadkin]

Organ donor bikes.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Organ donor bikes.

It must suck to live in fear.

[Yadkin]

It must suck to live in fear.

Yes, it must. :Jeff '79:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0XlfqmhTlQ

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Yes, it must. :Jeff '79:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0XlfqmhTlQ


:roll: :roll: I feel bad for you. That's it? A couple dipshits in a bunny hill? :roll::roll:

[Yadkin]

:roll: :roll: I feel bad for you. That's it? A couple dipshits in a bunny hill? :roll::roll:

Post up yours. :waiting:

[RedLS1GTO]

Organ donor bikes.

Out of pure bored curiosity, what in your mind defines an "organ donor bike"?

[Steve_R]

$27k for a bike? I'll pass.

I haven't owned a street bike in over 30 years since a good friend riding ahead of me died in my arms after a lady pulled out in front of him. It's a day that's burned into my brain forever. I had to quit motocross racing in my 50s after too many crashes, all my fault, screwed up my back.

[Yadkin]

Out of pure bored curiosity, what in your mind defines an "organ donor bike"?

Motorcycles are colloquially referred to as “donorcycles” among medical staff. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022437520301122

[RedLS1GTO]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022437520301122

So.... your answer is all of them.

[Yadkin]

$27k for a bike? I'll pass.

I haven't owned a road bike in over 30 years since a good friend riding ahead of me died in my arms after a lady pulled out in front of him. It's a day that's burned into my brain forever. I had to quit motocross racing in my 50s after too many crashes, all my fault, screwed up my back.

When my son turned two, I looked at him, then at my Kawasaki, and said "One of you has got to go." :o

[Yadkin]

So.... your answer is all of them.

No, I think it's obvious which ones are more dangerous than others. Just look at HP/ weight ratios.

A lot of it depends on the rider. Less mature, less experience, equals more likelihood of an accident. And of course, higher speeds. Add in car/ truck drivers who don't see you, and hence, organ donation.

[RedLS1GTO]

No, I think it's obvious which ones are more dangerous than others. Just look at HP/ weight ratios.

A lot of it depends on the rider. Less mature, less experience, equals more likelihood of an accident. And of course, higher speeds. Add in car/ truck drivers who don't see you, and hence, organ donation.

Not sure I agree with that.

An idiot on a Honda Shadow is going to be dead just as fast as a good rider on that batshit crazy 1198 that I posted.

HP/Weight is pretty irrelevant to safety, especially on newer bikes. That Aprilia was the most powerful bike I've personally ever ridden and weighs half as much as a big Harley. With traction control, stability control, launch control, wheelie control, etc, etc, etc... it was also almost the easiest bike I've ever ridden. It would peel the skin off of your face when you launched it, but it was easy to control. It would stop on a dime in a panic stop, even with a panicked rider that grabs too much brake. It helps if you hit gravel or if a rider screws up and simply rides beyond their skill level into a corner.

Idiot riders are infinitely more dangerous than any type of bike. You can make the argument that there is a direct correlation between idiots and specific types of bikes and I will absolutely agree, but the bike itself being inherently "more dangerous"... not so much.

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I spent 3 months in the hospital because of a motorcycle wreck. The minute I was able I bought another bike and kept riding.

This isn’t some ‘Get back on the horse’ feel good story. Speaking only for myself the risk will always be worth the reward and preserving my life at any cost isn’t in my makeup per se.

I know a guy who chocked on a ****in’ tortilla chip and DIED if such I thing can even be imagined. Hell my own father missed a step at his lake home, fell, hit his head and it killed him.

[Bruze]

Best chances to stay out of trouble on a motorcycle: You must be a 101% defensive driver. You must assume that nobody sees you, and every car at a crossroad or pulling out of a driveway will pull out in front of you. Be ready with the horn, high beam button, and/or brake.

I crashed twice in 1972, but no other vehicles were involved (but a lot of alcohol was :eek:). Worst I got was a bruised kidney which healed 100%.

I finally sold my last bike in 2015 at age 65. Too paranoid to ride anymore. As I got older I realized how fragile our bodies are.

A 5 MPH crash in a parking lot, which if car-to-car would barely scrape a little paint, could throw you off the bike and if you landed wrong could break your neck or back (having major age-related neck surgery in 2011 didn't help with that scenario).

Having said all that, I had a lot of fun over 45 years of riding -- no regrets. Endless bar-hopping, late night racing, went to Florida and back and numerous lesser trips.

[Yadkin]

Not sure I agree with that.

An idiot on a Honda Shadow is going to be dead just as fast as a good rider on that batshit crazy 1198 that I posted.....


A lot of it depends on the rider.

No, I think we are in agreement. :D

[sublime1996525]

It’s the other vehicles on the road that make me consider selling mine. It’s almost more stressful than relaxing to ride now. Covid made people extremely impatient and the road rage is insane. Add to that the distracted and oblivious drivers, and it’s a disaster waiting to happen.

[slewfoot]

It's still a crotch rocket. Not a matter if you get yourself killed by when.

[RedLS1GTO]

It's still a crotch rocket. Not a matter if you get yourself killed by when.

Between test rides, service rides, and actually riding for fun I have been on well over 1,000 bikes.

Closest I've ever come to death was on an 883 Sportster. :shrug:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Not a matter if you get yourself killed by when.
Ridiculous argument. Truly. If you accept this, you’ve resigned yourself to crashing and in your case dying. You don’t think this way when you get behind the wheel of your Prius do you? “It’s not if, it’s when.’” Or my other favorite “There are two kinds of riders. Those who’ve gone down and those who will.” Why is a motorcycle any different than a car? It’s not a forgone conclusion you’re gonna crash. That’s silly.

You think crashing a Bagger at 80 mph is somehow less damaging than crashing your H2 R?

[LATB]

An old saying:

Spend any time riding horses or motorcycles and eventually you will get hurt.

[Bruze]

Between test rides, service rides, and actually riding for fun I have been on well over 1,000 bikes.

Closest I've ever come to death was on an 883 Sportster. :shrug:

I saw The Grim Reaper one night, off in the distance, back around 1977.

I had a 1974 900 Kawasaki then which was supposed to do 140 MPH; it was stock except for a header. I was drunk one night and decided to wind it out, which I did on a nearby parkway. It was bouncing at 135+ and almost 9,000 RPM which was the redline in high gear.

Obviously, I didn't crash. :eek:

[RedLS1GTO]

An old saying:

Spend any time riding horses or motorcycles and eventually you will get hurt.

I've been hurt pretty badly in a car crash.

My dad is a paraplegic after a wreck on his way home from work in his truck.

Spend any time... alive... and eventually you'll get hurt.

[69camfrk]

Ugly AF....

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Ugly AF....

I don’t like the black one either.

:rofl:

[Bruze]

Hey look, somebody built a house under the rear fender :funniest:

88586

What an actual "motorcycle" looks like:

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[Burro (He/Haw)]

Hey look, somebody built a house under the rear fender :funniest:

88586

What an actual "motorcycle" looks like:

88587

88588

We’ve been through this. Your last chop sucked too BTW. :rofl:

[RedLS1GTO]

Hey look, somebody built a house under the rear fender :funniest:

88586

What an actual "motorcycle" looks like:

88587

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...and which bike do you think each of those women would choose?

Yea, Rosie definitely wants the old Heritage. (Corrected)

[Burro (He/Haw)]

...and which bike do you think each of those women would choose?

Yea, Rosie definitely wants the old Electra Glide.

I put 450 miles on mine yesterday. Average speed 60 mph, 40 mpg. Two up. Nimble it’s not. One doesn’t flick an 850# bike. :Jeff '79:

[Bruze]

...and which bike do you think each of those women would choose?

Yea, Rosie definitely wants the old *Electra Glide.

I wouldn't want her stinking up the back seat, that's why there isn't one.


* it's an '88 Heritage Softail.

[RedLS1GTO]

* it's an '88 Heritage Softail.

I see the softail now. Didn't take the time to actually look originally.

They all look the same sitting on the side of the road anyway... :leaving:

[Bruze]

They all look the same :leaving:

Yes, like a motorcycle!

The Heritage Softail was a modern replica of the '50s-era Hydraglide.

[RedLS1GTO]

Yes, like a motorcycle!

The Heritage Softail was a modern replica of the '50s-era Hydraglide.

You look at that as a positive. Personally, if I wanted something from the 50s... I'd buy something from the 50s.

Is it your argument that cars don't look like "cars" unless they are shaped like a Model-T?

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Looks matter which explains why your bike looks filthy.

:rofl:

[dwjz06]

If only you knew someone who works on Ducs for a living... :D

Personally, I love everything about the Diavel... except for the resale market.



Not even in the ballpark of a 37 ton Goldwing.



Listen in person. You may change your mind.



I hate to break it to you, but you'll see nothing but that big 240 tire from the word go. The Duc has 94lb-ft of torque vs a Valkyrie at about 96... and it weighs 200lbs less. Not to mention traction control, way stickier tire, etc.



These sound amazing, especially with a nice (Termi) exhaust... but there's nothing quite like the old twins.



I cannot think of a worse answer. And that's from an admitted Duc fanboy. :willy:


Short answer, the resale on the Diavel is pretty awful as it is a bike that clearly has divided opinions. Other than that. They're awesome and they certainly get attention everywhere they go. The days of nightmare Ducati maintenance are pretty well behind. They still have a significant amount, but nothing like the seemingly daily valve jobs of the older versions. They are also oddly comfortable to ride (at least in my opinion).Hey speaking of the 240 rear tire. I have one on my fatboy. Fuggin tires wear out in less than 10k? I have Michelin Scorchers now. What tire is a good replacement, and is there like a tire rack type place for motorcycle tires to compare stats etc? Thanks

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Hey speaking of the 240 rear tire. I have one on my fatboy. Fuggin tires wear out in less than 10k? I have Michelin Scorchers now. What tire is a good replacement, and is there like a tire rack type place for motorcycle tires to compare stats etc? Thanks

My FCSTC has a 200 in the rear. 4500 miles and I’m at the wear indicators. I’ve owned this thing 15 years, so it isn’t an anomaly.

[dwjz06]

My FCSTC has a 200 in the rear. 4500 miles and I’m at the wear indicators. I’ve owned this thing 15 years, so it isn’t an anomaly.:seasix: have close to 7,800 on it now, but it is looking damn close to the tread wear indicators. Love the pic:seasix: just wanted to see what choices are out there bang for the buck wise. The stock ones are pretty pricey, but everything is these days, and it has been many years since I had to purchase any.:D