View Full Version : Gavin Newsom: the President nobody needs
Wathen1955
07-12-2023, 4:05pm
Finally - an editorial piece on Newscum worth reading on all places Yahoo.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gavin-newsom-president-nobody-needs-230120800.html
Some clips:
Here, Newsom’s dilemma reflects a wider weakness of the current crop of Democratic Party leaders — a consistent record of poor governance. This applies not only to Newsom, but to Illinois’s J.B. Pritzker and Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer, both of whom are widely pitched by Democratic operatives as possible Biden replacements.
Pritzker, although capable of funding his own campaign, would run as Governor of a state that ranks near the bottom of almost every survey. Meanwhile, Michigan’s Whitmer may seem more attractive, but she would be hard-pressed to sell herself as an avatar of a “Michigan miracle”. Like the other media darlings, she presides over a consistently underperforming economy suffering from out-migration, and now faces, with the electric car mandates, the prospect of large layoffs in the state’s signature auto industry.
Yet arguably the worst examples of poor Democratic governance are found at the municipal levels. Democrats control virtually every big city, the majority of which are suffering both economic and demographic decline. Once-celebrated cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Portland, Seattle and Minneapolis are all largely run by progressives. In every case, the biggest losers from this kind of one-party rule are the very people that progressives seek to champion by adopting the ideology of “anti-racism” and affirmative action. Over the last decade, Los Angeles actually lost foreign-born residents, who have been flocking to the very sunbelt metros — Houston, Dallas-Ft. Worth and Miami — that Newsom likes to caricature as “racist hellholes”.
And on a municipal level, too, Newsom bears some of the blame. During the 2000s, as Mayor of San Francisco, he presided over a tech boom that accentuated both housing shortages and an explosion of homelessness. He promised to address both but the city he left behind, once arguably the most blessed in America, is now among the most cursed — a dystopia with sky-high property crime, homeless encampments, and a largely emptied downtown.
For the Democrats hailing Newsom as the saviour of their party, the legacy of these failures extends well beyond California. Until they can find presidential candidates with a positive record of accomplishment, their only option will be to campaign largely on cultural issues — particularly if faced with someone other than Trump. The economic argument, after all, has already been lost. As is evident from his gubernatorial spats with DeSantis, a Newsom 2024 campaign will pitch at the farthest end of the cultural divide, embracing no limits on abortion, early transgender treatments and undocumented immigration.
At first glance, the blow-dried Newsom may seem a fine antidote to Biden’s decrepitude, but his elevation would simply reinforce his party’s record of failed governance. If Newsom is the future of the Democratic Party, then the future of America, particularly after Trump, is more likely to be Republican.
Louie Detroit
07-12-2023, 4:09pm
Stretchin’ Gretchen has been an unmitigated disaster for Michigan, almost as bad as our last female governor, The Mole Jennifer Granholm.
Frankie the Fink
07-12-2023, 4:13pm
Newsome touts electric vehicles and can't even keep the power grid up, not counting the huge state deficit and the departure of major businesses and people diluting the tax base.
But its OK, paying $5 MM to people in reparations will clear this all up.
He would be a disaster but would still most likely win if we nominate Trump.
Louie Detroit
07-12-2023, 4:21pm
He would be a disaster but would still most likely win if we nominate Trump.
What’s this WE shit white man?
Aerovette
07-12-2023, 4:24pm
Newsome touts electric vehicles and can't even keep the power grid up, not counting the huge state deficit and the departure of major businesses and people diluting the tax base.
But its OK, paying $5 MM to people in reparations will clear this all up.
I am 100% in favor of paying maximum reparations to every black in California. I fully support the idea and I seriously hope it goes though.
It will be the BEST evidence that there is NEVER enough to handout. I predict that in 1 year, the majority of recipients will have lost every penny and in 5 years, less than 100 of the recipients will have actually prospered.
Let it happen, let them fail. Let me say I told you so. :seasix:
What’s this WE shit white man?
I’m still a never Trump Republican. I will vote red this election but not for the Trumpster.
At first glance, the blow-dried Newsom may seem a fine antidote to Biden’s decrepitude, but his elevation would simply reinforce his party’s record of failed governance.
The democrats do not think their policies have failed.
The democrats do not think.
Fixt
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-12-2023, 5:06pm
I’m still a never Trump Republican. I will vote red this election but not for the Trumpster.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all day. You? A republican? An actual voting Republican?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Newscum would be worse than Biden, as frightening as that sounds.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all day. You? A republican? An actual voting Republican?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I’ve voted red ever since Reagan 1, until Trump in 2020.
Newscum would be worse than Biden, as frightening as that sounds.
Much, much worse.
Newscum would be worse than Biden, as frightening as that sounds.
Saw Gavin at a PGA tournament in SF many years ago. Within 5 feet, I could tell he was a sleezebag politician.
Frankie the Fink
07-12-2023, 5:15pm
I am 100% in favor of paying maximum reparations to every black in California. I fully support the idea and I seriously hope it goes though.
It will be the BEST evidence that there is NEVER enough to handout. I predict that in 1 year, the majority of recipients will have lost every penny and in 5 years, less than 100 of the recipients will have actually prospered.
Let it happen, let them fail. Let me say I told you so. :seasix:
Its beyond debate, the influx of sudden wealth doesn't help fiscally irresponsible people as is shown by the end result of many lottery winners (and I worked two desks away from the winner of the first VA state lottery)
Can you say MC Hammer ?
Mike Mercury
07-12-2023, 5:25pm
Stretchin’ Gretchen has been an unmitigated disaster for Michigan, almost as bad as our last female governor, The Mole Jennifer Granholm.
https://www.tim-yvonne.com/forum/detroit.jpg
Much, much worse.
:yesnod:
The Democrats and their media accomplices will package and sell Newsom just like they did the magic negro.
And the American idiots will buy it.
Anjdog2003
07-12-2023, 5:55pm
Worst Governor our state has ever had.
dvarapala
07-12-2023, 5:56pm
Newscum would be worse than Biden, as frightening as that sounds.
Much, much worse.
He would do for the entire country what he did for San Francisco and California.
We may never recover. :yesnod:
https://media.patriots.win/post/ua0zizqYB5EG.jpeg
Not that the fix is in or anything, and Joe has already been notified ballots have been counted and he won 2024....
https://media.patriots.win/post/ua0zizqYB5EG.jpeg
Not that the fix is in or anything, and Joe has already been notified ballots have been counted and he won 2024....
We all know that Biden is a lying piece of shit.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-12-2023, 6:25pm
I’ve voted red ever since Reagan 1, until Trump in 2020.
:rofl:
:rofl:
Trump didn't hurt me in any way, he insulted my country and my intelligence. Apparently not yours. :D
Trump didn't hurt me in any way, he insulted my country and my intelligence. Apparently not yours. :D
This is a great read on the subject.
I highly recommend it.
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JRD77VET
07-12-2023, 7:50pm
:yesnod:
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-13-2023, 7:43am
Biden stuck his finger up your ass! Trumps also....:rofl:
The only ass Biden fingers belong to underage kids.
And whatever CUMDAWG. Your douchebaggery fools no one. You're a despicable POS and it's doubtful you even meet the criteria of human. People like you are the reason this country is ****ed.
sublime1996525
07-13-2023, 7:50am
Maybe he’s not what we need but what this country deserves. Let’s just burn it all down.
Wulverine
07-13-2023, 7:52am
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all day. You? A republican? An actual voting Republican?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Johnny Hekkler (taurus) is a "poser" as well as those who defend him. :seasix:
I don’t think Wulverine understands that you all know it’s me. :D
Also looks like my stalker is expanding his reach to anyone that doesn’t agree with him so be careful.
mrvette
07-13-2023, 8:36am
I’ve voted red ever since Reagan 1, until Trump in 2020.
what the hell you have against Trump????
what the hell you have against Trump????
I have explained that here and over there many times, it's no secret. I'll hit the highlights but not going to start a back and forth again, we've been down that road too many times.
I don't willingly give the keys to the kingdom to a dishonest, childish and dishonorable man. His roles in Trump University and the Trump Charitable Trust turned out to be vehicles to line his pockets at the expense of others. Remember when slick Willy pointed his finger at us and said "I did not have relations with that woman"? Trump did the same thing when he told us all as he stood on AF1 that he did not know about the hush money payments made to COVERUP multiple affairs. That is not something an honorable or honest man does. His inability to keep his ego in check cost us all healthcare reform because he had to have the last word with McCain and we all paid the price. He single handedly damaged or completely destroyed relationships with many of our allies, they were built in many cases with the blood of our finest. If he had his way he would have also destroyed NATO, huge mistake. He was impeached twice and the only reason he wasn't convicted is because the right controlled the senate. Going forward his actions since losing have been destructive and divisive to the country and they way he left Mike Pence out to hang literally was disgusting. The recent indictments speak for themselves and if we find out he had knowledge of the fake elector scheme it should be game over.
There are many other reasons, these are the major reasons, there are many more. The man I described is my reality and not the person I feel should represent out great nation.
I fully understand that many feel these reasons are not significant enough to exclude him or are all part of some strange plot against him. I feel otherwise.
Onebadcad
07-13-2023, 10:26am
I have explained that here and over there many times, it's no secret. I'll hit the highlights but not going to start a back and forth again, we've been down that road too many times.
I don't willingly give the keys to the kingdom to a dishonest, childish and dishonorable man. His roles in Trump University and the Trump Charitable Trust turned out to be vehicles to line his pockets at the expense of others. Remember when slick Willy pointed his finger at us and said "I did not have relations with that woman"? Trump did the same thing when he told us all as he stood on AF1 that he did not know about the hush money payments made to COVERUP multiple affairs. That is not something an honorable or honest man does. His inability to keep his ego in check cost us all healthcare reform because he had to have the last word with McCain and we all paid the price. He single handedly damaged or completely destroyed relationships with many of our allies, they were built in many cases with the blood of our finest. If he had his way he would have also destroyed NATO, huge mistake. He was impeached twice and the only reason he wasn't convicted is because the right controlled the senate. Going forward his actions since losing have been destructive and divisive to the country and they way he left Mike Pence out to hang literally was disgusting. The recent indictments speak for themselves and if we find out he had knowledge of the fake elector scheme it should be game over.
There are many other reasons, these are the major reasons, there are many more. The man I described is my reality and not the person I feel should represent out great nation.
I fully understand that many feel these reasons are not significant enough to exclude him or are all part of some strange plot against him. I feel otherwise.
I limit my respect to those who feel both the impeachments and indictments are footed in what our system is, the system has obviously been hijacked, even more so in the pursuit of Trump.
When I look at Trump objectively, he fulfills my objectives of a POTUS who has the full interest of the full country at heart.
The 2020 election had a ton of issues, many not seen before, with many states shutting down vote counting early.
You can decide if it was rigged, but not all was right, and biden won all the closely contested states.
Taurus
07-13-2023, 10:35am
I limit my respect to those who feel both the impeachments and indictments are footed in what our system is, the system has obviously been hijacked, even more so in the pursuit of Trump.
When I look at Trump objectively, he fulfills my objectives of a POTUS who has the full interest of the full country at heart.
The 2020 election had a ton of issues, many not seen before, with many states shutting down vote counting early.
You can decide if it was rigged, but not all was right, and biden won all the closely contested states.
Wasn't rigged, he lost as has been shown over and over. Trump Lost The Election.
Onebadcad
07-13-2023, 10:43am
Wasn't rigged, he lost as has been shown over and over. Trump Lost The Election.
Trying to get an election supervisor to admit there was voter fraud is akin to pmsnbc running a story on biden crime syndicate's proven criminal activity.
Allegations in elections are common, sillary paid slain $3.5M to recount every vote in WI, the contention has been made by many, if not most, maybe all, Trump was most vocal about it.
Taurus
07-13-2023, 11:39am
Trying to get an election supervisor to admit there was voter fraud is akin to pmsnbc running a story on biden crime syndicate's proven criminal activity.
Allegations in elections are common, sillary paid slain $3.5M to recount every vote in WI, the contention has been made by many, if not most, maybe all, Trump was most vocal about it.
Especially when you have no evidence in the first place. Was the fake elector scheme we now KNOW was in place an attempt to rig the election? Why does that make team Trump any better?
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-13-2023, 1:19pm
Wasn't rigged, he lost as has been shown over and over. Trump Lost The Election.
Nothing to see here. Perfectly legal stuff going on...so legal that you can't look in here. GMAFB. So naive.
The_Dude
07-13-2023, 1:23pm
Worst Governor our state has ever had.
Worse than Grey Davis?
Nothing to see here. Perfectly legal stuff going on...so legal that you can't look in here. GMAFB. So naive.
Been debunked and I explained it to you already. They put those up because the protester were trying to get results and give them to the media prematurely but please keep posting that picture. You have no evidence and yes you can be naive and believe everything you’re told by Hannity. There were observers in the room at all time from both parties.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/detroit-windows-covered-ballots-vote-center/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/technology/michigan-election-ballot-counting.html
https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/31lawens/Fact_check_TCF_Center_allegations.pdf?rev=f6bf9870e19344fcb4951aee59d76ee0
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-13-2023, 1:45pm
Been debunked and I explained it to you already. They put those up because the protester were trying to get results and give them to the media prematurely but please keep posting that picture. You have no evidence and yes you can be naive and believe everything you’re told by Hannity.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/detroit-windows-covered-ballots-vote-center/index.html
I got some ocean front property in Idaho to sell you. It's great...right on the water.
It's been debunked! Links a CNN article. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Onebadcad
07-13-2023, 1:46pm
newsum will have to campaign on strictly social issues and those issues that tug at the heartstrings of all pussyhats, as he has ZERO accomplishments, he is bankrupting the state, the big cities are havens for drug addicts and criminals, he is a HUGELY pos, whose only goal is to enrich his bank account--peeloser taught him well.
I got some ocean front property in Idaho to sell you. It's great...right on the water.
It's been debunked! Links a CNN article. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
How about the others? You just can't be objective. What part of there were observers inside the entire time is hard to understand? This was not even disputed y the right.
You are the one duped by a photo from the "stop the vote" crowd. You know, the ones that wanted to stop counting votes while Trump was still ahead. Nothing suspicious about that either I suppose.
newsum will have to campaign on strictly social issues and those issues that tug at the heartstrings of all pussyhats, as he has ZERO accomplishments, he is bankrupting the state, the big cities are havens for drug addicts and criminals, he is a HUGELY pos, whose only goal is to enrich his bank account--peeloser taught him well.
You are correct and social issues get dems out to vote. He does it very well.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-14-2023, 6:11am
How about the others? You just can't be objective. What part of there were observers inside the entire time is hard to understand? This was not even disputed y the right.
You are the one duped by a photo from the "stop the vote" crowd. You know, the ones that wanted to stop counting votes while Trump was still ahead. Nothing suspicious about that either I suppose.
I didn't "see the photo," I watched that damn thing live as people were taking video of it, as well as them pulling boxes of ballots out from under tables while the windows were covered (and the facility was closed to inspectors, well republican inspectors anyway) and counting votes for 3-4 hours while nothing was allowed to be happening.
The fact that your side chooses to ignore the FACT that events happened all over, and that they in fact WERE ILLEGAL, makes you the most dangerous kind of fool...an ignorant and biased one. Sounds like you should start working for the FBI. You'd fit right in. Shit...with your viewpoints, they may make you Director.
I didn't "see the photo," I watched that damn thing live as people were taking video of it, as well as them pulling boxes of ballots out from under tables while the windows were covered (and the facility was closed to inspectors, well republican inspectors anyway) and counting votes for 3-4 hours while nothing was allowed to be happening.
The fact that your side chooses to ignore the FACT that events happened all over, and that they in fact WERE ILLEGAL, makes you the most dangerous kind of fool...an ignorant and biased one. Sounds like you should start working for the FBI. You'd fit right in. Shit...with your viewpoints, they may make you Director.
and yet a judge who looked at all the "evidence" including your videos and claims that the republican observers were denied access and loads of ballots were brought in and blah, blah, blah said they were nonsense without basis and threw Trump's folks out of court. I know, he was part of this imaginary plot against Trump as well.
Trump lost.
The underlying issue discussed here is, we are at a point in the country where we don't agree on the basic facts. Half the country firmly believes we saw massive cheating in the swing states. The other half is just as adamant that no cheating took place. The lines are drawn, and that's that. No amount of persuasion, or discussion, is going to change anyone's mind now.
Same for the Wu flu 'crisis.' A significant portion of the country thinks we were lied to, that the Wu flu itself was produced in a Chinese bioweapons lab, that the Wu flu itself wasn't as much of a doomsday bug as governments around the world made it out to be, that the 'vaccines' were ineffective and dangerous, that other treatments, including protocols that included HCQ, Ivermectin, zinc, vitamin D, quercetin, etc., were intentionally suppressed to force people into being injected, etc. The rest of the country knows that's all just a false conspiracy theory. Again, the lines are drawn, whatever camp you are in on all that....you're in. No minds are going to be changed. That's it.
We're irrevocably polarized, balkanized. I don't really see any way out of that. There's not going to be any kind of "bringing America together" when we can't even come together to agree on basic facts.
How are you going to bring me together to say that the masks, the vaccines, worked, that HCQ and ivermectin based treatments didn't work, etc.? I will never say that, never believe that. Meanwhile, others, including a good friend of mine who recently underwent major cancer treatment, believes just the opposite. He will never come together to say that Americans were duped. Ever. We can't agree on basic facts.
Can't agree on what a man or a woman is. No coming back from that.
Edit:
https://media.patriots.win/post/wL3BCVwgVL9z.jpeg
Half the country thinks this guy is a sick, mentally ill joke, as illustrated, and the other half legitimately thinks he, er, SHE is stunning and brave and an inspiration to boys around the world.
Not really any compromise on that, no one that will bring us together on that.
Onebadcad
07-14-2023, 10:21am
You are correct and social issues get dems out to vote. He does it very well.
I did not decide that all socialists are dead to me, BUT I decided long ago that I would never discuss social issues.
Rhose who cling to them are mostly sheeple, and cannot speak intelligently for 10 seconds on budgets, deficits, revenues and spending.
There is a very strong correlation for those who solely vote based on social issues, they are also mostly freeshitgrabbers, and in their lifetime they will be net negatives.
Taurus
07-14-2023, 10:29am
I did not decide that all socialists are dead to me, BUT I decided long ago that I would never discuss social issues.
Rhose who cling to them are mostly sheeple, and cannot speak intelligently for 10 seconds on budgets, deficits, revenues and spending.
There is a very strong correlation for those who solely vote based on social issues, they are also mostly freeshitgrabbers, and in their lifetime they will be net negatives.
I agree completely. When dems are successful it's usually is because they have wrapped their message in social issues that appeal to the masses. No one does it better right now than Newsome which is why he's so dangerous in 2024.
Taurus
07-14-2023, 10:36am
My question again, Is he running?
Not yet, still feeling things out but he will be in my opinion.
Onebadcad
07-14-2023, 12:38pm
newsum will run, if for no other reason than raising a ton of money, bailing out early due to the polls suck, and then diverting the balance of campaign funds, probably $10+M, to his wife through various marketing shell corps.
Most presidential candidates stop spending money at least two weeks before they pull out, as they want the monies to keep pouring in.
Above is a proven template,,, hell, I may run for POTUS.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-14-2023, 12:47pm
and yet biased, bought, and paid for judges, district attorneys, state prosecutors, and election officials chose to ignore all the "evidence" including your videos and claims that the republican observers were denied access and loads of ballots were brought in and blah, blah, blah said they were nonsense without basis and threw Trump's folks out of court. I know, he was part of this imaginary plot against Trump as well.
Trump lost.
Fixed.
Taurus
07-14-2023, 12:54pm
Fixed.
Prove that please.
Oh yea, you can’t prove your conspiracy theories can you?
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-14-2023, 1:08pm
Prove that please.
Oh yea, you can’t prove your conspiracy theories can you?
This has always been my MAIN ARGUMENT. You have seen the proof. I have seen the proof. Everyone has seen the proof. You just CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.
This has always been my MAIN ARGUMENT. You have seen the proof. I have seen the proof. Everyone has seen the proof. You just CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.
I have seen NO proof and neither have the judges.
I choose to ignore conspiracy theories and that's all you have. For you to be right I would have to believe that all the judges that heard Trump's cases, all the election officials and all the election workers were in a fix to get Trump. Not only that but they all kept it under wraps and nothing got out. But only in states Trump lost. All this done by the left whom you all think are the dumbest people imaginable. This story sounds less plausible every time you tell it and it's almost getting amusing.
Stomping your feet and pounding your balled up fists on your desk does not make it true. What is true is Trump will lose the White House again if the party continues to ride the Trump Train.
For you............ it's time.
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BRUIZER
07-14-2023, 2:33pm
This has always been my MAIN ARGUMENT. You have seen the proof. I have seen the proof. Everyone has seen the proof. You just CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT.
:iagree:
The feds have been caught red handed doing chit tons on nefarious corrupt actions.
But they'd never rig an election.
:rofl:
The feds claiming the Byedumb laptop was "Russian disinformation" and colluding with social media, the msm ect to withhold information from the voting public is voter fraud in of itself.
The progcommie clowns can deny all they want. The genie isn't going back in the bottle...ever.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-14-2023, 3:08pm
I have seen NO proof and neither have the judges.
I choose to ignore conspiracy theories and that's all you have. For you to be right I would have to believe that all the judges that heard Trump's cases, all the election officials and all the election workers were in a fix to get Trump. Not only that but they all kept it under wraps and nothing got out. But only in states Trump lost. All this done by the left whom you all think are the dumbest people imaginable. This story sounds less plausible every time you tell it and it's almost getting amusing.
Stomping your feet and pounding your balled up fists on your desk does not make it true. What is true is Trump will lose the White House again if the party continues to ride the Trump Train.
For you............ it's time.
Whatever dude. "Not seeing any proof" does not mean the proof isn't everywhere. You are CHOOSING to be biased. If the suspicious circumstances favored Trump, your bias would be completely the other way. But this is why I typically refuse to even engage with you Hekking. Your bias shuts down any chance of your understanding complicated things, and you painfully display a lack of critical thinking that makes me wonder how you're even still alive. You, like always, continue to be a waste of my time.
Whatever dude. "Not seeing any proof" does not mean the proof isn't everywhere. You are CHOOSING to be biased. If the suspicious circumstances favored Trump, your bias would be completely the other way. But this is why I typically refuse to even engage with you Hekking. Your bias shuts down any chance of your understanding complicated things, and you painfully display a lack of critical thinking that makes me wonder how you're even still alive. You, like always, continue to be a waste of my time.
Feel free to not interact with me, I get no enjoyment from it and would prefer not to listen to your unproven conspiracy theories. Don't tell me how I would think if the circumstances were helping Trump, you have no idea. But they are as YOU called them, SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES. That's what I'm supposed to go on to agree with over throwing an election, SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES? :rofl:
This is NOT about bias, it's fact based and not SUSPICOUS CIRCUMSTANCE based. Critical thinking allows us to reason beyond what our emotions tell us, unlike you who's still crying over a lost election going on three years later. How long you going to keep it up man? Your TDS is painfully obvious and difficult to watch.
Again, pass my posts by like you should have at CF instead of bitching about how I got you banned for how you responded to my posts. Do you always blame others like me, judges, election officials, election workers, MSM and on and on when things don't go your way?
I don't come here to belittle anyone for their beliefs on the 2020 election, Donald Trump or anything else, everyone has a right to think what they want based on their research and assimilation of the facts. In my discussion here and over there about 2020 you don't see me telling folks across the aisle that I can't understand how they're still alive. I won't back down from the very few of you that seem to think you're superior beings, you are not. I can and do discuss civilly with many here who don't get put on their ear every time we disagree.
Again, feel free to follow your advice and don't interact. There's a whole new 2020 election thread out there today, go play in it and call me all the names want and disparage my beliefs because we don't agree. That would be very Donald Trump and CF of you.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-14-2023, 5:03pm
Your issue is that you won't agree with anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. You always want "proof" of shit but when people provide it, you discard it because YOU don't believe its factual. Are you a lawyer? Because you are MOST CERTAINLY not law enforcement, any type of investigator, or analyst. Why should anyone believe your sources are more "factual" than theirs? Especially when your sources are known to be vehemently anti-Trump (or anything conservative or libertarian for that matter).
Your political posts are never anything but circular reporting, conjecture, speculation, and echoed leftist talking points. And you "won't back down from the very few" of us who think we're superior beings? I applaud you. That's the most valid thing you've ever said. The problem is, you can't back down because you've never been on the same level of anyone here. They've all moved on from your biased ass a long time ago. Maybe someday you'll reach a level where you won't be punked by a 3rd grade southerner learning about politics for the first time.
Your issue is that you won't agree with anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. You always want "proof" of shit but when people provide it, you discard it because YOU don't believe its factual. Are you a lawyer? Because you are MOST CERTAINLY not law enforcement, any type of investigator, or analyst. Why should anyone believe your sources are more "factual" than theirs? Especially when your sources are known to be vehemently anti-Trump (or anything conservative or libertarian for that matter).
Your political posts are never anything but circular reporting, conjecture, speculation, and echoed leftist talking points. And you "won't back down from the very few" of us who think we're superior beings? I applaud you. That's the most valid thing you've ever said. The problem is, you can't back down because you've never been on the same level of anyone here. They've all moved on from your biased ass a long time ago. Maybe someday you'll reach a level where you won't be punked by a 3rd grade southerner learning about politics for the first time.
Are we engaging again? All I see are your same circular comments and more insults. No thanks.
Your issue is that you won't agree with anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. You always want "proof" of shit but when people provide it, you discard it because YOU don't believe its factual. Are you a lawyer? Because you are MOST CERTAINLY not law enforcement, any type of investigator, or analyst. Why should anyone believe your sources are more "factual" than theirs? Especially when your sources are known to be vehemently anti-Trump (or anything conservative or libertarian for that matter).
Your political posts are never anything but circular reporting, conjecture, speculation, and echoed leftist talking points. And you "won't back down from the very few" of us who think we're superior beings? I applaud you. That's the most valid thing you've ever said. The problem is, you can't back down because you've never been on the same level of anyone here. They've all moved on from your biased ass a long time ago. Maybe someday you'll reach a level where you won't be punked by a 3rd grade southerner learning about politics for the first time.
He’s in love with Romney and since Trump rejected Romney, he has to carry on and spread that hate on these little car forums. :rofl:
He’s in love with Romney and since Trump rejected Romney, he has to carry on and spread that hate on these little car forums. :rofl:
Yup, just like CF. Way to drop this place down a notch.
Yup, just like CF. Way to drop this place down a notch.
Ahh, you’re sharing your boring opinion again. When are you going to work on your ignoring skills??
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-14-2023, 6:58pm
Yup, just like CF. Way to drop this place down a notch.
Your presence here does just that (bolded). Just like CUMDAWG trying to masquerade like he's not the alias he represents here. It's ****ing pathetic, and most of the folks here see right through the bullshit. Go pout about it at the other liberal-moderated place where you fit in. Because here, no ***** ass liberal mods are going to censor the normal voices into silence on your behalf.
Your presence here does just that (bolded). Just like CUMDAWG trying to masquerade like he's not the alias he represents here. It's ****ing pathetic, and most of the folks here see right through the bullshit. Go pout about it at the other liberal-moderated place where you fit in. Because here, no ***** ass liberal mods are going to censor the normal voices into silence on your behalf.
You're not very good a not engaging are you? Are you saying this is strictly a place for people who like you believe in SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, Donald Trump, fake electors and so on? Only one view is allowed here, yours. Is that what you're saying?
I thought that was the idea behind this place, to let free speech be the rule, just not mine or anyone that goes against your opinion apparently. I don't need anyone to run to my defense, it's not that important. You give me the SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES and I don't agree with them. I give you my opinion and some links to explain and you don't agree with them, What's the big deal? I personally think your position is utter and total bullshit but I don't really hold it against you.
Am I missing something here? Someone help me out, I thought this place was all about getting away from being told what's acceptable to say and what isn't. Is VB now all about only having one sided arguments and ostracizing anyone that disagrees?
Again, you should disengage if you are able. I will have my opinion and I'll respect yours but don't get so pissed off when we don't come to an agreement. It's only a car forum, not my life.
You're not very good a not engaging are you? Are you saying this is strictly a place for people who like you believe in SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, Donald Trump, fake electors and so on? Only one view is allowed here, yours. Is that what you're saying?
I thought that was the idea behind this place, to let free speech be the rule, just not mine or anyone that goes against your opinion apparently. I don't need anyone to run to my defense, it's not that important. You give me the SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES and I don't agree with them. I give you my opinion and some links to explain and you don't agree with them, What's the big deal? I personally think your position is utter and total bullshit but I don't really hold it against you.
Am I missing something here? Someone help me out, I thought this place was all about getting away from being told what's acceptable to say and what isn't. Is VB now all about only having one sided arguments and ostracizing anyone that disagrees?
Again, you should disengage if you are able. I will have my opinion and I'll respect yours but don't get so pissed off when we don't come to an agreement. It's only a car forum, not my life.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-15-2023, 12:25am
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I know...right? He? Is definitely "out there."
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-15-2023, 2:00am
As I've said...it's truly amazing to me how actually dumb you are. Survival is being so generous to you. Darwin's reaper must be on a LONG coffee break, for a few years now. You're tragic actually believing in the bullshit you spew. Our interaction makes me wonder how many latte's you drink, because no heterosexual male should ever be confused with you. You should post pics of your man-bun...I bet it's epic.
Despite how much I appreciate humans...I would not resuscitate you if you were dying. You are literally as bad as Biden. And hopefully you don't touch babies. (I suppose you think those reports are false too, aye?) I can't help fix how truly unintelligent you are. I know mouse pads with more intellect than you.
As I've said...it's truly amazing to me how actually dumb you are. Survival is being so generous to you. Darwin's reaper must be on a LONG coffee break, for a few years now. You're tragic actually believing in the bullshit you spew. Our interaction makes me wonder how many latte's you drink, because no heterosexual male should ever be confused with you. You should post pics of your man-bun...I bet it's epic.
Despite how much I appreciate humans...I would not resuscitate you if you were dying. You are literally as bad as Biden. And hopefully you don't touch babies. (I suppose you think those reports are false too, aye?) I can't help fix how truly unintelligent you are. I know mouse pads with more intellect than you.
Still struggling with that engagement thing aren’t you. Take your anger management issues elsewhere, I have no interest in your opinion. It’s an Internet forum, lighten up Nancy.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-15-2023, 2:34am
Are we finally reaching a point where you aren't interested? Thank God. I really think he could only handle kids booty holes getting tampered with for so long, and that eventually he'd run out of mercy for people like you.
Taurus
07-15-2023, 10:05am
Are we finally reaching a point where you aren't interested? Thank God. I really think he could only handle kids booty holes getting tampered with for so long, and that eventually he'd run out of mercy for people like you.
God should have no mercy for people who disagree with you like me, well done. Would you or Dave (who me too's everything you say) care to explain why I don't deserve any mercy from God? What have I done that I should be shunned by God?
The hate spewed from just a few towards other members in this forum sometimes is hard to believe and just because I disagree about election fraud.
Some people need to lighten up.
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-15-2023, 12:54pm
God should have no mercy for people who disagree with you like me, well done. Would you or Dave (who me too's everything you say) care to explain why I don't deserve any mercy from God? What have I done that I should be shunned by God?
The hate spewed from just a few towards other members in this forum sometimes is hard to believe and just because I disagree about election fraud.
Some people need to lighten up.
It would be something if you ONLY disagreed with election fraud happening. But in the years of interacting with you, I can't recall a single example of you ever saying anything that was republican or conservative in nature, which is why you saying that you are one is freaking hilarious.
You represent yourself here (historically even more so at the other place) as a democrat and at times even a proud one. And since all democrats are stupid, ya fit right in. :seasix:
It would be something if you ONLY disagreed with election fraud happening. But in the years of interacting with you, I can't recall a single example of you ever saying anything that was republican or conservative in nature, which is why you saying that you are one is freaking hilarious.
You represent yourself here (historically even more so at the other place) as a democrat and at times even a proud one. And since all democrats are stupid, ya fit right in. :seasix:
You didn't answer the question, is this just another case for you to make a dramatic statement and then cut and run? Why am I not deserving of God's mercy, you said it. The rest is noise, I support GOP initiatives and have only voted blue one time in one election on one line in 2020. I have worked for the campaigns of Romney and GW along with many other local GOP candidates here in Utah and other states we've lived in along our way. Yes, for the record I think your standard of evidence to over throw an election should be more than SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES as you called it.
Again, why should God turn his back on me? Why should I have already been taken by the reaper as you implied in your posts? You won't answer so let me just clue you in.
I have been given a great wife and wonderful kids and very special grand kids. We all have our health and we get along great. I have been given a great career that brought me considerable success allowing me to retire earlier than all our friends and family. We retired at my favorite golf course in our dream home with room for all our families and an extended garage full of toys and corvettes. I have a great group of friends that only make my life better and hopefully I do the same for them. I have been given complete financial freedom to live the rest of our lives without a worry in the place we want to be.
If God shows me no more mercy I have nothing to complain about, he has already shown me far more than I could possibly have hoped for.
There is no darkness in my life nor room for it.:seasix:
It would be something if you ONLY disagreed with election fraud happening. But in the years of interacting with you, I can't recall a single example of you ever saying anything that was republican or conservative in nature, which is why you saying that you are one is freaking hilarious.
You represent yourself here (historically even more so at the other place) as a democrat and at times even a proud one. And since all democrats are stupid, ya fit right in. :seasix:
Jon goes out of his way to disparage Trump every chance he gets, deserved or not. Mostly not, one example is not giving Trump credit for having installed almost 500 miles of new wall at the border. 40+ miles of new wall where none existed and the remainder replacing old ineffective wall.
Jon is most likely a republican, since he lovingly supports Mitt Romney. I do recall him stating his support for Biden.
I really don’t give a f about who he supports, but don’t call out others for who they support when you’re a hypocrite.
Signed,
MeToo
P.S. Romney sucks.
Jon goes out of his way to disparage Trump every chance he gets, deserved or not. Mostly not, one example is not giving Trump credit for having installed almost 500 miles of new wall at the border. 40+ miles of new wall where none existed and the remainder replacing old ineffective wall.
Jon is most likely a republican, since he lovingly supports Mitt Romney. I do recall him stating his support for Biden.
I really don’t give a f about who he supports, but don’t call out others for who they support when you’re a hypocrite.
Signed,
MeToo
P.S. Romney sucks.
Lots going on here but you didn't answer the question either. You "thanked" him on his comment that God should run out of mercy for me. Explain why.
Everything else you said is just more blah, blah, blah that I've heard from you for years.
Lots going on here but you didn't answer the question either. You "thanked" him on his comment that God should run out of mercy for me. Explain why.
I thanked him because his comment made me laugh. If you don’t understand what he said, that’s on you.
Yeah, Romney still sucks after all these years.
I thanked him because his comment made me laugh. If you don’t understand what he said, that’s on you.
Yeah, Romney still sucks after all these years.
Blah, blah, blah. I understood exactly what he said, "god should run out of mercy for people like me" and that made you laugh.
It's the bigger picture that needs to be seen here, the hatred that comes from disagreements in politics. Bill Daniels nailed it in a post a few days ago.
You do understand, his posts said I should be dead and God should show me no mercy. This from a guy that doesn't know me and the only thing we have in common is this forum. This made you laugh. That's pretty big talk for what you call "little car forums".
Kudos Bill. :seasix:
https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2109267&postcount=48
Blah, blah, blah. I understood exactly what he said, "god should run out of mercy for people like me" and that made you laugh.
It's the bigger picture that needs to be seen here, the hatred that comes from disagreements in politics. Bill Daniels nailed it in a post a few days ago.
You do understand, his posts said I should be dead and God should show me no mercy. This from a guy that doesn't know me and the only thing we have in common is this forum. This made you laugh. That's pretty big talk for what you call "little car forums".
Kudos Bill. :seasix:
https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2109267&postcount=48
Blah, blah, blah. Same Trump bs, different day. Romney still sucks. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Anjdog2003
07-16-2023, 11:58pm
Worse than Grey Davis?
Far worse and Grey got booted out.
dvarapala
07-17-2023, 10:06am
Raazor You gonna go see Newsom when her comes to Montucky? :waiting:
Dan Dlabay
07-17-2023, 10:11am
He is related to Pelosi. That's all you need to know.:cert:
Tikiman
07-17-2023, 11:55am
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all day. You? A republican? An actual voting Republican?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
He's not fooling anybody. He's a child-grooming, tranny-loving liberal democrat. He's just too ashamed to admit it. That's why they all will deny it, despite everybody knowing precisely what they are. :rofl:
cptlo306
07-17-2023, 12:01pm
He's not fooling anybody. He's a child-grooming, tranny-loving liberal democrat. He's just too ashamed to admit it. That's why they all will deny it, despite everybody knowing precisely what they are. :rofl:
Got it....so being anti-Trump = liberal democrat.
Trumpism...nope, definitely not a cult. :faint:
Tikiman
07-17-2023, 12:09pm
Got it....so being anti-Trump = liberal democrat.
Trumpism...nope, definitely not a cult. :faint:
What you seem to miss is that most of us have been reading his tripe for years. Always bashing conservatives in favor of democrats. Until the dems get in office and make a shitshow of everything - then he's pretty quiet about that but will continue to bash former conservative Presidents.
When he comes out and denies being a liberal commucrat, that is just comedy gold. Like when little dhimmi davey would do it at the other place. :rofl:
GTOguy
07-17-2023, 12:50pm
Newsom is an arrogant, loathsome, insulated narcissist who is drunk on power and has zero regard for anything other than his own advancement. He is right at the top of my 'Most Despised' POS list.
Taurus
07-17-2023, 12:55pm
What you seem to miss is that most of us have been reading his tripe for years. Always bashing conservatives in favor of democrats. Until the dems get in office and make a shitshow of everything - then he's pretty quiet about that but will continue to bash former conservative Presidents.
When he comes out and denies being a liberal commucrat, that is just comedy gold. Like when little dhimmi davey would do it at the other place. :rofl:
Show me where I bash conservatism here or there. I only speak out against Trump and yes you guys lump all people against trump as child grooming tranny loving libs.
It's so Trump of you. :seasix:
Taurus
07-17-2023, 12:55pm
Got it....so being anti-Trump = liberal democrat.
Trumpism...nope, definitely not a cult. :faint:
That's a true Trumper's go to. You get used to it and move on. :D
Aerovette
07-17-2023, 1:16pm
And he wants the entire country to turn into the next San Francisco...
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She has a mild case of Atchaforia in that picture.
One eye lookin' atcha, the other lookin' foria.
https://media.communities.win/post/gUuqL5kUHN48.png
Strange bedfellows, indeed.
Edit: MOAR Disney money going at DeSantis:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-campaign-finance-funding/2023/07/17/id/1127382/
Newsome will crank up from $32,000,000,000,000 in debt to $50,000,000,000,000
On the 32T = $94,600 per American.
BRUIZER
07-17-2023, 1:37pm
https://media.communities.win/post/gUuqL5kUHN48.png
Strange bedfellows, indeed.
Edit: MOAR Disney money going at DeSantis:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-campaign-finance-funding/2023/07/17/id/1127382/
The DeSantis presidential campaign recently layed-off a bunch of staff. :rofl:
dvarapala
07-17-2023, 1:42pm
84144
Sadly Greta doesn't stop anyone from being poop-shy. :sadangel:
Sadly Greta doesn't stop anyone from being poop-shy. :sadangel:
Or puke shy. :puke:
Sadly Greta doesn't stop anyone from being poop-shy. :sadangel:
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mrvette
07-17-2023, 5:02pm
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How old is that kid these daze?? I know she was handled/backed by her family many years ago.....:kick:
How old is that kid these daze?? I know she was handled/backed by her family many years ago.....:kick:
I'm guessing 19-20.
I'm sure someone will Google it.
How old is that kid these daze?? I know she was handled/backed by her family many years ago.....:kick:
Born in 2003. I have socks older than that little chit.
She’s a clueless idiot.
Wathen1955
07-17-2023, 5:26pm
Born: January 3, 2003 (age 20 years), Stockholm, Sweden
Born in 2003. I have socks older than that little chit.
She’s a clueless idiot.
:iagree:
Born in 2003. I have socks older than that little chit.
She’s a clueless idiot.
Born: January 3, 2003 (age 20 years), Stockholm, Sweden
Well thanks for that update :toetap:
I share a birthday with that little snit !
I won't send her a card, but maybe a picture of my car, truck, and bike.
Well thanks for that update :toetap:
I share a birthday with that little snit !
I won't send her a card, but maybe a picture of my car, truck, and bike.
Tell her this is your daily driver: :funniest::funniest:
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MTPZ06
07-17-2023, 11:41pm
Tell her this is your daily driver: :funniest::funniest:
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I'm sure that has a CARB EO#.
mrvette
07-18-2023, 8:05am
Tell her this is your daily driver: :funniest::funniest:
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Anyone know about that thing?? looks like a gas engine with some turbo on it, and I THINK some oil injection to make the smoke...???
I DOES bring a grin to my face......
:Sexy:
Ronins2ndCuzzin
07-18-2023, 8:31am
It's a diesel engine.
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