What an experience at the insurance adjuster

[Bob CTS]

Wow to say the least, just got back.

Make it short

First the adjuster says hey and asked if I was Chris' brother who I am, I am then greeted with well I am not going there. WTF

So he looks at car (2011 Equinox), in short he was pretty much an azz.
Car has hail damage and bumper damage.

The short list (the company was doing a computer upgrade so he could not do a formal estimate so he said)

Cut off and replace roof
Replace hood
Replace bumper cover
Replace grille
Replace both fenders
Replace all trim around passenger doors
Paintless dent removal on other stuff

How can this not be totaled???? I am livid right now, car only has 2000 miles and stickers at 25k.

I can not find any reference to what the cash value is. The adjuster said 75% totals it and did not think it was totaled.

At least right now I am thinking I was not treated fairly with the reference to my brother and will be taking this to the top.

Thoughts on how or to persuade this car to be totaled.

There is no way any person can promise me that this car will be returned repaired properly. I can imagine things be rattling and sheit falling off for the remainder of its life.

Thanks all.
Bob

[lander]

Wow to say the least, just got back.

Make it short

First the adjuster says hey and asked if I was Chris' brother who I am, I am then greeted with well I am not going there. WTF

So he looks at car (2100 Equinox), in short he was pretty much an azz.
Car has hail damage and bumper damage.

The short list (the company was doing a computer upgrade so he could not do a formal estimate so he said)

Cut off and replace roof
Replace hood
Replace bumper cover
Replace grille
Replace both fenders
Replace all trim around passenger doors
Paintless dent removal on other stuff

How can this not be totaled???? I am livid right now, car only has 2000 miles and stickers at 25k.

I can not find any reference to what the cash value is. The adjuster said 75% totals it and did not think it was totaled.

At least right now I am thinking I was not treated fairly with the reference to my brother and will be taking this to the top.

Thoughts on how or to persuade this car to be totaled.

There is no way any person can promise me that this car will be returned repaired properly. I can imagine things be rattling and sheit falling off for the remainder of its life.

Thanks all.
Bob

That right there is the big WTF? Seriously...cut off and replace roof?:slap:

The rest of the stuff is straight forward replacement...but I'd be damned if I'd go along with cutting off the roof and putting a new one on. For damn sure that will never be right, ever. And the value of the vehicle if/when a potential buyer finds that out? :seeya:

[Bob CTS]

That right there is the big WTF? Seriously...cut off and replace roof?:slap:

The rest of the stuff is straight forward replacement...but I'd be damned if I'd go along with cutting off the roof and putting a new one on. For damn sure that will never be right, ever. And the value of the vehicle if/when a potential buyer finds that out? :seeya:

Thanks man that is what set me off. He said the windshield has to come out, the headliner has to be removed, I mean come on, this has to be totaled. Not too happy right now. I pay for insurance for when sheit like this happens which is rare. I understand they have to make money but this car will be cobbled together like a mad max car.

[lander]

Thanks man that is what set me off. He said the windshield has to come out, the headliner has to be removed, I mean come on, this has to be totaled. Not too happy right now. I pay for insurance for when sheit like this happens which is rare. I understand they have to make money but this car will be cobbled together like a mad max car.

If I were you I'd take it to the repair shop of my choice and let them have a look at it. I deal with a place that I trust 100%, hopefully you do to? Let them haggle it out with the adjuster. When I was in an accident last year the initial adjuster said $4500 to repair...by the time my repair shop was done they ended up paying over $7500 to fix it right. I wanted it totaled same as you...but in the end I had it repaired to my satisfaction and if they wanted to foot the bill, well, that was ok with me. But I wouldn't have been happy with a new roof unless my repair shop said they could fix it right...then again it was a Jeep Wrangler so no roof to worry about. :D

[Cybercowboy]

Thanks man that is what set me off. He said the windshield has to come out, the headliner has to be removed, I mean come on, this has to be totaled. Not too happy right now. I pay for insurance for when sheit like this happens which is rare. I understand they have to make money but this car will be cobbled together like a mad max car.

Mad Max had some fine vehicles. Very reliable, able to take repeated attacks from desert mutants while still running strong. I will not stand idly by while you defame his truly impressive line of vehicles. :beat:

[snide]

So he looks at car (2100 Equinox), car only has 2000 miles and stickers at 25k.


Can't believe you're getting all panty-wadded over a $25k car that hasn't been built yet. :leaving:

[78SA]

I'd definately go over his head. Make sure they know he was being a dick because of your brother.

[73sbVert]

Can't believe you're getting all panty-wadded over a $25k car that hasn't been built yet. :leaving:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just, damn!

[Bob CTS]

Can't believe you're getting all panty-wadded over a $25k car that hasn't been built yet. :leaving:

Ooops. Sorry still getting used to the smart phone.

[snide]

Ooops. Sorry still getting used to the smart phone.

Hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction, Bob.

:cheers:

[Uncle Pervey]

A 4 years ago the Devilwomang slammed her 1999 Merc SLK into the side of a Jeep Cherokee, the Cherokee was driven by a teenage girl skipping out of school with 5 other girls. They pulled out of a Sonic directly in front of my wife.
The SLK was massively fooked up, it was 8 years old at the time and we fought the insurance company for 2 months trying to get them to total it. It ended up costing $29K to fix a car with a resale value of maybe $19K. Plus 3 months of rental car charges they had to pay. What a bunch of fugging morangs they were. We'd have accepted $19K and walked away from it but noooooo they had to fix it. :yesnod:

[Bob CTS]

A 4 years ago the Devilwomang slammed her 1999 Merc SLK into the side of a Jeep Cherokee, the Cherokee was driven by a teenage girl skipping out of school with 5 other girls. They pulled out of a Sonic directly in front of my wife.
The SLK was massively fooked up, it was 8 years old at the time and we fought the insurance company for 2 months trying to get them to total it. It ended up costing $29K to fix a car with a resale value of maybe $19K. Plus 3 months of rental car charges they had to pay. What a bunch of fugging morangs they were. We'd have accepted $19K and walked away from it but noooooo they had to fix it. :yesnod:

Wow that is just plain stupid

[ZipZap]

10 or 12k worth of work. Why would they total a nearly new vehicle? Since you can't sue the weather, diminished value is probably unrecoverable.

Good Luck.

[Bob CTS]

They should have totaled my Cobalt when it got hit by hail too. I'm still dealing with problems from the repairs 2 years later but thankfully the insurance company keeps paying to get the stuff fixed.

They've dumped more money into it than it's worth by a pretty good amount. :rofl:

That is exactly what I am afraid of constant warranty issues. Thinking about the adjusters comments I was also amazed at how he trash talked the dealers body shops by saying they are some of the worst to deal with.

[DJ_Critterus]

That is exactly what I am afraid of constant warranty issues. Thinking about the adjusters comments I was also amazed at how he trash talked the dealers body shops by saying they are some of the worst to deal with.

Pull a space balls move and go over his helmet. Seriously, had I been in your shoes and a comment like that came out to start the conversation, I'd have told the guy to stop looking at the car while I made a phone call to the ins company.

You need to demand another adjuster comes out and fightn that bullshit about the roof if it comes up again.

[Bob CTS]

Pull a space balls move and go over his helmet. Seriously, had I been in your shoes and a comment like that came out to start the conversation, I'd have told the guy to stop looking at the car while I made a phone call to the ins company.

You need to demand another adjuster comes out and fightn that bullshit about the roof if it comes up again.

I called and left a message with my agent as soon as I left the parking lot.

I found out that this guy is my brothers ex-wife sisters husband. In the massage I told her there was bias and that I was not accepting the analysis and that wr need to have a phone call with corporate to discuss moving forward. Any professional would have let another adjuster perform the claim.

[Sea Six]

A 4 years ago the Devilwomang slammed her 1999 Merc SLK into the side of a Jeep Cherokee, the Cherokee was driven by a teenage girl skipping out of school with 5 other girls. They pulled out of a Sonic directly in front of my wife.
The SLK was massively fooked up, it was 8 years old at the time and we fought the insurance company for 2 months trying to get them to total it. It ended up costing $29K to fix a car with a resale value of maybe $19K. Plus 3 months of rental car charges they had to pay. What a bunch of fugging morangs they were. We'd have accepted $19K and walked away from it but noooooo they had to fix it. :yesnod:

What insurance company?

[NB2K]

10 or 12k worth of work. Why would they total a nearly new vehicle? Since you can't sue the weather, diminished value is probably unrecoverable.

Good Luck.

100% correct.

[C5SilverBullet]

I seriously doubt it is totaled. You probably are only around 50% of the value.

[Gina]

I had a 2 week old Maxima hit as hard with hail several years ago. I thought they should replace the car because it was THEIR fault it was outside! Insurance was repairing our house from a burst pipe above the kitchen. They put the old kitchen cabinets in the garage and took their sweet time removing them.

After months of fighting, they repaired the car. Never had any problems with it. But, it still posses me off to remember watching my brand new car getting the shit beat out of it and nothing I could do.:sadangel:

[C5SilverBullet]

I would guess:

Cut off and replace roof - $1500-2000
Replace hood - $800
Replace bumper cover - $150
Replace grille - $150
Replace both fenders - $600
Replace all trim around passenger doors - $100
Paintless dent removal on other stuff - No idea how much work, but this is cheap.

Paint - $500
Labor - $2000-3000
Total- That's about $7300 on my guess, probably a hair low, but nowhere near totaled.

[Millenium Vette]

At this point I would wait and see what the insurance company comes up with. You are under no obligation to accept their first offer and they know it. If it is unacceptable, just tell them you are in no hurry to settle. Don't threaten to sue, they hear that threat a million times a day and will just tune you out. Instead play it cool and remind them that it is your name on the title and you are in control of what happens to the car. There are other options besides a total loss, which probably won't happen. The easiest would be to take a cash settlement from the insurance company and trade the car in as is and get a new one. You will likely not come out "whole" on the deal, but it may be better than driving a hacked-up new car. :cheers:

[ZipZap]

At this point I would wait and see what the insurance company comes up with. You are under no obligation to accept their first offer and they know it. If it is unacceptable, just tell them you are in no hurry to settle. Don't threaten to sue, they hear that threat a million times a day and will just tune you out. Instead play it cool and remind them that it is your name on the title and you are in control of what happens to the car. There are other options besides a total loss, which probably won't happen. The easiest would be to take a cash settlement from the insurance company and trade the car in as is and get a new one. You will likely not come out "whole" on the deal, but it may be better than driving a hacked-up new car. :cheers:

Assuming you owe nothing on the car...

If not, then it's the lender's name on the title and they will want a vote.

[Millenium Vette]

Assuming you owe nothing on the car...

If not, then it's the lender's name on the title and they will want a vote.

You can still trade it in if there is a lien on the title, no different than any other trade-in. :cheers:

[Bob CTS]

You can still trade it in if there is a lien on the title, no different than any other trade-in. :cheers:

Thanks that is a possibility never thought to trade it. There is no lien on the car. I got first quote and there are things missing. I am now working with another adjuster and have been told that the other adjuster has been notified that it was against their ethics policy to even review my car. Also in reviewing the quote insurance wants to insall an aftermarket windshield, unreal.

I expressed my concerns about resale and reiterated that I would accept book value and walk away so he is supposed to be getting back with me. So we shall see.
Thanks

[1911fool]

I would rather them re-skin the roof than fix the old one. It's much easier and a better repair. Without out re-skinning it you would have 2 tons of plastic on it. Depending on how bad it is, they may even be able to do the paintless dent repair on it.

[LATB]

consider trading it in on a new vehicle?

I did this once with a damaged pickup...not a totaled deal, but fubar enough I didn't want it.

I made a deal with a dealer...signed the ins. claim over to him...drove off with fresh wheels.

:dance:

[lander]

Wow...can't believe it's gone this long without asking...post up some pics of the damage.

[Rotorhead]

I seriously doubt it is totaled. You probably are only around 50% of the value.

:rofl: Bullshit! The car is fecked. I would call the agent and request it totaled. The value of the car is shit and no one will ever buy with substantial frame repairs. I've been in this scenario and it's most likely the agent is good friends with the body shop.:seeya:

[Bob CTS]

consider trading it in on a new vehicle?

I did this once with a damaged pickup...not a totaled deal, but fubar enough I didn't want it.

I made a deal with a dealer...signed the ins. claim over to him...drove off with fresh wheels.

:dance:

Might try that as well. Taking the car to the selling dealer for a quote on body repair and then will swing in and discuss trading as is or with signing over the claim check and start all over again.

[Bob CTS]

Wow...can't believe it's gone this long without asking...post up some pics of the damage.

I would if I can get the shots in daylight, she gets home late.

[C5SilverBullet]

:rofl: Bullshit! The car is fecked. I would call the agent and request it totaled. The value of the car is shit and no one will ever buy with substantial frame repairs. I've been in this scenario and it's most likely the agent is good friends with the body shop.:seeya:

He never said anything about frame damage.

[Bob CTS]

:rofl: Bullshit! The car is fecked. I would call the agent and request it totaled. The value of the car is shit and no one will ever buy with substantial frame repairs. I've been in this scenario and it's most likely the agent is good friends with the body shop.:seeya:

I am starting to believe that, I am going on the principle that the roof is part of rigid structure and I no longer feel safe in the event of a rollover or other collision.

I am waiting to here back from the orginal adjusters boss. I told him yesterday that I thought insurance was to mitigate a loss or make it so I do not have one, this contradicts that. I told him I wanted to know the cash value/book value and would most likely settle on that, walk away and start over.

Looking at $9400 on damage and almost $1500 is PDR which might and might not work out thus causing the estimate to increase if paint work is needed.

Many thanks to all those that replied.

[Bob CTS]

He never said anything about frame damage.

No, but the adjuster basically told me that the roof is welded to the ribs that support the overall frame/cage of the car, I would imagine cutting into this is going to affect the rigidity of the car, I no longer feel safe in the car.

[C5SilverBullet]

No, but the adjuster basically told me that the roof is welded to the ribs that support the overall frame/cage of the car, I would imagine cutting into this is going to affect the rigidity of the car, I no longer feel safe in the car.

They aren't going to cut the frame. If you're worried about messing up the car, go to a better body shop. If it wasn't possible to safely replace the part, GM wouldn't offer the part for replacement.

[Rotorhead]

He never said anything about frame damage.

Neither did I. But the roof has to be replaced and that is a structural area and part of the frame. The roof is being replaced for cosmetic reasons, not frame damage.

[Rotorhead]

That is exactly what I am afraid of constant warranty issues. Thinking about the adjusters comments I was also amazed at how he trash talked the dealers body shops by saying they are some of the worst to deal with.

Whe my truck was rear ended, I waited 3 months for my truck to be repaired. After the 3rd time going to pick it up, I moved it to a dealership with a good rep. They tore the frame rail while trying to straighten it, so they just welded it. The impact damage where the bed hit the cab was never fixed. There was hardware, trim, and all kinds of other shit missing. I seriously should have had it totaled and would have knowing what complete fuktards were working on my car and they were freinds with my Geico agent. He is no longer employed but I hear the other adjusters are the same way.

[Rotorhead]

They aren't going to cut the frame. If you're worried about messing up the car, go to a better body shop. If it wasn't possible to safely replace the part, GM wouldn't offer the part for replacement.

:rofl:

[Rotorhead]

You have to replace the stuctural parts to replace the skin to do it properly. The roof, is very structural. Oh, yeah, the skin of the roof does provide strength. What makes you an expert anyways?

[Bill]

They aren't going to cut the frame. If you're worried about messing up the car, go to a better body shop. If it wasn't possible to safely replace the part, GM wouldn't offer the part for replacement.

:iagree:

I had hail damage on my first car, an Olds, years ago. Yes, it sucked, and yes, the car was repaired and would never be "fresh and original" again, but let's just think about this. If we decided that insurance companies should start totalling every newer car that was damaged (hail or otherwise), regardless of the repair costs, think of what the cost of an insurance policy would be.

Does the OP think he pays a lot of premium already?

In order for the insurance company to comply with their policy terms, the repairs need to bring the car back to it's pre accident condition, meaning that the body and paint work need to be equivalent to the body and paint work the car had when it came off the line.

Are the welds as strong? Are the body seams equally straight? Is the paint work equivalent to the factory paint in quality? Then the car is repaired.

Yes, the OP will know it has been repaired. The insurance company can't wave a wand and make it so that the damage never occurred. All they can do is pay to fix it, which is what they want to do.

The only beef the OP might have is haggling over what LKQ parts mean for his almost new car. In his case, LKQ means used OEM parts that are also almost new. In the case of the windshield, that's not really an option, so asking for brand new LOF glass doesn't seem unreasonable.

[Rotorhead]

I'm just going on what the dealer, the GM representative, 3 body shops, and my insurance agent told me.

I'm no expert but I do trust (at the very least) the body shops that I spoke with. :cheers:

How to Remove the Roof of My Car | eHow.com (http://www.ehow.com/how_7700619_remove-roof-car.html)

[Bob CTS]

:iagree:

I had hail damage on my first car, an Olds, years ago. Yes, it sucked, and yes, the car was repaired and would never be "fresh and original" again, but let's just think about this. If we decided that insurance companies should start totalling every newer car that was damaged (hail or otherwise), regardless of the repair costs, think of what the cost of an insurance policy would be.

Does the OP think he pays a lot of premium already?

In order for the insurance company to comply with their policy terms, the repairs need to bring the car back to it's pre accident condition, meaning that the body and paint work need to be equivalent to the body and paint work the car had when it came off the line.

Are the welds as strong? Are the body seams equally straight? Is the paint work equivalent to the factory paint in quality? Then the car is repaired.

Yes, the OP will know it has been repaired. The insurance company can't wave a wand and make it so that the damage never occurred. All they can do is pay to fix it, which is what they want to do.

The only beef the OP might have is haggling over what LKQ parts mean for his almost new car. In his case, LKQ means used OEM parts that are also almost new. In the case of the windshield, that's not really an option, so asking for brand new LOF glass doesn't seem unreasonable.

Not sure where to even start, right now the estimate stands at ~$9.2k, the sticker is $25K. They are pouring in almost half the worth and I will never be happy with car, hence why I am almost certain to not even have it repaired and walk away with my losses. Heck they ought to offer the vehicle to someone who completely lost theirs as is and they would come out ahead.

I can not tell express in words the pain I have when someone has to do work for me beyond my capabilities. Everything I get back is either screwed up or ruined and this is by reputable buisnesses. I mean one scuff on a door panel, one dirty fingerprint on a clean headliner and it is ruined in my eyes, and will be replaced. Trust me when I say it will be cheaper for the insurance agency and bodyshop to not have to deal with me in regards to repair.

We are talking welding the roof back in, if I were to do this (yes I am a welder) all the interior would be removed, all the A,B,C and D pillar panels including the carpet, the glass would be protected as well as anything else exposed. One stray spark and you are going to have issues. You tell me any shop that is going to go to that level?

On the glass the original adjusters boss said that OEM glass would added to the estimate as well as a bumber emblem.

As a side note, I have OCD and it makes it very hard to accept workmanship to the level that I expect.

I am still sticking to the fact I no longer feel safe in this car, and it will be hacked POS that if I elect to sell in the next months and a carfax is pulled the poetential owner would run for the hills.

I also understand that many people are in the same situation as I am and probably 99.9% will accept the repair and move on, well you can guess I am the .1%

Just a side note, if the insurance company wanted to repair my 14 year old Ford like this I would say go for it, I have no concerns of the poetential outcome of the Ford. If they total it I might buy it back for salvage and drive it. The inside is spotless and the truck is very reliable.

Bob

[Bob CTS]

Roof parts have no idea if welded or structual adhesive to attach to bows.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/roof.jpg

Damage, camera is having a hard time picking up roof due to shades and sun.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2349.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2354.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2353.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2351.jpg

House
Hail damage on shingles (5 year old roof)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2344.jpg

an example of one hole in vinyl siding (many exist all on edge)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2334.jpg

fascia
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2331.jpg

[Rotorhead]

:iagree:

I had hail damage on my first car, an Olds, years ago. Yes, it sucked, and yes, the car was repaired and would never be "fresh and original" again, but let's just think about this. If we decided that insurance companies should start totalling every newer car that was damaged (hail or otherwise), regardless of the repair costs, think of what the cost of an insurance policy would be.

Does the OP think he pays a lot of premium already?

In order for the insurance company to comply with their policy terms, the repairs need to bring the car back to it's pre accident condition, meaning that the body and paint work need to be equivalent to the body and paint work the car had when it came off the line.

Are the welds as strong? Are the body seams equally straight? Is the paint work equivalent to the factory paint in quality? Then the car is repaired.

Yes, the OP will know it has been repaired. The insurance company can't wave a wand and make it so that the damage never occurred. All they can do is pay to fix it, which is what they want to do.

The only beef the OP might have is haggling over what LKQ parts mean for his almost new car. In his case, LKQ means used OEM parts that are also almost new. In the case of the windshield, that's not really an option, so asking for brand new LOF glass doesn't seem unreasonable.

It better be one hell of a body shop to do that repair on any car I own. Leaking windows, blended paint fading, and wind noise from improperly aligned panels are all things I would expect from even the best body shop around.

[Rotorhead]

Just put a Titlest sticker on the side and be done. :D

[Montehall]

not totalled


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2349.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b310/bspreng/DSC_2354.jpg





totalled:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Wilson1911/Truck/DSCN1002.jpg

totalled:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Wilson1911/vette/vette.jpg

[C5SilverBullet]

I'm just going on what the dealer, the GM representative, 3 body shops, and my insurance agent told me.

I'm no expert but I do trust (at the very least) the body shops that I spoke with. :cheers:
I've been a GM certified parts manager for over 7 years.

[C5SilverBullet]

How to Remove the Roof of My Car | eHow.com (http://www.ehow.com/how_7700619_remove-roof-car.html)

That's an article on how to chop the roof. You can remove the skin of the roof without cutting.

[Rotorhead]

I've been a GM certified parts manager for over 7 years.

What does one do to acheive this certification?

[Montehall]

I've been a GM certified parts manager for over 7 years.
:skep:

at Cook Ford?

[C5SilverBullet]

What does one do to acheive this certification?
Weeks and weeks of tests and classes.
:skep:

at Cook Ford?
No, but at Cooke Chevrolet, Broerman Chevrolet, Kenny Kent Chevrolet, Reo Chevrolet, Saturn of Rivergate, and Classic Chevrolet.

[Montehall]

Weeks and weeks of tests and classes.

No, but at Cooke Chevrolet, Broerman Chevrolet, Kenny Kent Chevrolet, Reo Chevrolet, Saturn of Rivergate, and Classic Chevrolet.
wow... you get around.
:D

[Bob CTS]

It better be one hell of a body shop to do that repair on any car I own. Leaking windows, blended paint fading, and wind noise from improperly aligned panels are all things I would expect from even the best body shop around.

I agree, taking a liberty but in following some your posts you and I have a high standard in workmanship.

[Bob CTS]

not totalled


totalled:


While your pictures are visually stimulating in conclusion of being totaled, that is obvious.

Friends 2008 Mercedes 104k miles is totaled, friends Ford cargo van 25k miles totaled, sorry I do have stimulating pictures to show the above cars but visually both had less damage than my vehicle.

Both were what I call excellent shape.

[Rotorhead]

Weeks and weeks of tests and classes.

No, but at Cooke Chevrolet, Broerman Chevrolet, Kenny Kent Chevrolet, Reo Chevrolet, Saturn of Rivergate, and Classic Chevrolet.

Did you have to have any auto body experience to get this certification? What percentage of the techs working for you have this certification?

[Bob CTS]

I've been a GM certified parts manager for over 7 years.

:cheers:

I understand where you are coming from, it easy to stand on the sidelines and dictate that things are repairable and etc. However no one can gurantee this car will be right after the repairs, even if I take it to the best shop around.

Who spends extra time to keep sockets from slipping on nuts, and screwdrivers from rounding screw heads or knicking the finish. Verifying that the plastic push pins are not mutilated upon removal and that all fastners are put back in place correctly and not left out.

Everyone knows that those turd-azz plastic clips always deform if not break upon removal and I doubt will be replaced. Panels will loosen up and squeaks and rattles will occur.
These are just some of the other issues that I am dealing with.

[Rotorhead]

I agree, taking a liberty but in following some your posts you and I have a high standard in workmanship.

I've worked on helicopters for 18 years. I've also been the victim of shitty body shops and insurance reps who are in bed with them. I do my own work on my cars for a reason. I have friends who only allow me to work on their cars for a reason.

Looks like the repairs aren't that big of a deal, and I agree totaling it would not make sense to the insurance company. My situation involved the total replacement of the frame, and it was never the same. Lots of noises, tire alignment,....etc.....

Make double sure of the body shop you take it to and best of luck.:seeya::beer:

[Bob CTS]

I've worked on helicopters for 18 years. I've also been the victim of shitty body shops and insurance reps who are in bed with them. I do my own work on my cars for a reason. I have friends who only allow me to work on their cars for a reason.

Looks like the repairs aren't that big of a deal, and I agree totaling it would not make sense to the insurance company. My situation involved the total replacement of the frame, and it was never the same. Lots of noises, tire alignment,....etc.....

Make double sure of the body shop you take it to and best of luck.:seeya::beer:

:cheers:

If I am forced into the repair route, I am going to make sure that the body shop allows me to inspect each panel prior to installation and a visual installation at each critical step. Even if this means I spend my off days at the shop. By no means am I rude to personnel, I am just very critical of work and want it right.

Same here, I actually have a small waiting list of work to do on friends cars. Just did a VW Passat due to a flood, gutted the whole interior, took out the electronics, did not break one thing, got it about half back, did it take longer than a shop, probably, but it is done right.

I am sure there is no room for shortcuts when working on helicopters. I just want the work to be done properly.