Trump Indictment Thread (sorry Zeek)

[Taurus]

May as well put this out there, not sure how I feel about it yet. Everyone is reporting at least 7 charges and we won't really know what and how many until next week.

I guess the one thing that I know is true is that this could have been avoided if Trump just didn't have to be Trump about all this.

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[markids77]

Hate to say this but i sort of hope he gets found guilty of something... just so he might shut up and go away.

[Bill]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6553057/venezuela-maduro-arrest-juan-guaido/

CARACAS, Venezuela — Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said Friday that authorities haven’t detained opposition leader Juan Guaido because the courts haven’t ordered it, but he warned: “It will come.”

Maduro made the remark in a meeting with the international press three days after Guaido returned from a tour to the U.S. and Europe, in defiance of a court order prohibiting him from leaving the country.

Despite the order, migration officials let Guaido into the country after he arrived on a commercial flight at Venezuela’s main international airport.

Maduro said that the day Venezuela’s justice system decides Guaido should be imprisoned “for all the crimes he’s committed,” he will be jailed. Venezuela’s judicial system is stacked with pro-Maduro officials who routinely issue decrees in accordance with the president’s viewpoints.

“That day hasn’t come yet,” he said in response to a question from The Associated Press. “But it will come.”



https://www.ft.com/content/d3f7e968-80a0-4982-af4f-e2d125258fdd

Venezuela opposition leader Juan Guaidó arrives in US after fleeing



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[gs568]

Hate to say this but i sort of hope he gets found guilty of something... just so he might shut up and go away.

Not happening. All these indictments by these career politicians are their feeble attempts to hide their own corruption. Trump is the only one who is willing to interrupt their corruption.

[markids77]

Not happening. All these indictments by these career politicians are their feeble attempts to hide their own corruption. Trump is the only one who is willing to interrupt their corruption.

We'll see I guess.

[Taurus]

Not happening. All these indictments by these career politicians are their feeble attempts to hide their own corruption. Trump is the only one who is willing to interrupt their corruption.

Riiiiiiiight, "hey guys, we're corrupt so let's get the DOJ to indict Trump for those documents he took".

Like you always do, everyone's fault but Trump's and you think I'm the gullible one.

[Taurus]

Hmmm, if only there was a post leading up to all of this? Oh wait you knew that! https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132670

Yup, that one had become a pissing contest, hopefully this one can be a discussion.

[gs568]

And don’t forget the name calling. Lol.

[Taurus]

Hate to say this but i sort of hope he gets found guilty of something... just so he might shut up and go away.

Sadly I think many are starting to feel that way. The difference with this one is that it's not a conspiracy theory or a witch hunt, he had the documents and they were recovered from him. I think what's important is how implicit he was to obstructing in getting them back.

Also, if you don't think this same prosecutor won't indict him for January 6th I think you would be wrong. I just fear if elected his entire term would be a waste of time fighting off legal issues.

[PLRX]

He needs to get a stroke, a widow maker, or naturally. It's obvious the left has been messing with him since 2016, but this godforsaken circus needs to stop.

[gs568]

He needs to get a stroke, a widow maker, or naturally. It's obvious the left has been messing with him since 2016, but this godforsaken circus needs to stop.

Then we go right back to corrupt politicians.

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[LATB]

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[PLRX]

And don’t forget the name calling. Lol.

I served 23 years in the Marine Corps and never saw a General or a Colonel insulting people like that. A POTUS ought to be an ultimate professional.

I supported TRUMP, and that also got me banned from the CF, but this man do have mental problems.

[Taurus]

He needs to get a stroke, a widow maker, or naturally. It's obvious the left has been messing with him since 2016, but this godforsaken circus needs to stop.

I don't wish him ill but I agree the circus needs to stop. The sad thing is there may still be 2 more to come, where will it end? Every hit hurts his chances and you have to wonder how long before people that have been loyal supporters have had enough. I think we'll get a better idea when the indictment is open and we see what the charges are.

I'm also hearing Meadows has an indictment? Need to look into that more.

[gs568]

I served 23 years in the Marine Corps and never saw a General or a Colonel insulting people like that. A POTUS ought to be an ultimate professional.

I supported TRUMP, and that also got me banned from the CF, but this man do have mental problems.

Thank you for your service. I prefer a President who avoids war at all costs and am okay with verbal insults.

[PLRX]

Thank you for your service. I prefer a President who avoids war at all costs and am okay with verbal insults.

It's OK with me if you vote for Trump. :seasix: Some asshole insults me; he'd be shitting teeth for a week.

[ZipZap]

I absolutely hate that the machine continues to go after him and is absolutely a weaponization.

Anybody else thinks that the timing was coincident with the $5M bribery announcement only by chance?

FJB and his marionettes.

[gs568]

It's OK with me if you vote for Trump. :seasix: Some asshole insults me; he'd be shitting teeth for a week.

I’ll try to refrain from making dodger fan insults. Lol.

[PLRX]

I’ll try to refrain from making dodger fan insults. Lol.

OH, the Dodgers??? I'll join you. :dance:

[TheRealBadger]

I served 23 years in the Marine Corps and never saw a General or a Colonel insulting people like that. A POTUS ought to be an ultimate professional.

I supported TRUMP, and that also got me banned from the CF, but this man do have mental problems.

This

Leadership is not just about being right.

[Anjdog2003]

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[Taurus]

This

Leadership is not just about being right.

Leadership, not Trump being Trump. The later is why he's in trouble again today, it could have all been avoided just like it was with Pence. Simply cooperate and find a different battle to fall on your sword over, maybe one that matters.

[cptlo306]

Personally, I think the main reason Trump decided to run again is in an attempt to avoid getting indicted. That hasn't worked out so far except that he can now claim election interference.

Trump really needs to bow out of the primaries and focus on handling these current and possible future indictments. Endorse someone and become the kingmaker instead of trying to be the king again.

[Taurus]

Personally, I think the main reason Trump decided to run again is in an attempt to avoid getting indicted. That hasn't worked out so far except that he can now claim election interference.

Trump really needs to bow out of the primaries and focus on handling these current and possible future indictments. Endorse someone and become the kingmaker instead of trying to be the king again.

I agree, but either you are right about his motives so he can't or he just can't back down. Either way 2024 is setting up to be a mess.

[gs568]

Personally, I think the main reason Trump decided to run again is in an attempt to avoid getting indicted. That hasn't worked out so far except that he can now claim election interference.

Trump really needs to bow out of the primaries and focus on handling these current and possible future indictments. Endorse someone and become the kingmaker instead of trying to be the king again.

They would have left him alone if he didn’t run again.

[Frankie the Fink]

Hate to say this but i sort of hope he gets found guilty of something... just so he might shut up and go away.

So you support a possible injustice because you just don’t like someone.

[Bruze]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6553057/venezuela-maduro-arrest-juan-guaido/




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Yep, we have a parallel situation here. We are in the middle of a Marxist revolution, and if you reject that that then you are rejecting history.

Famous last words: "It can't happen here!"

If they manage to imprison Trump, and the next president is a Democrat, WE ARE NEXT on the chopping block.

This political persecution isn't just going to go away. Marxists want complete and total control and ownership of EVERYTHING and they will stop at nothing. The only reason they haven't gone farther yet, is they know there's 300-400 million guns in private hands out there. But in the long run, that won't scare them.

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But we're way WAY too comfortable yet to resist. We have plenty to eat, and we still have a fair amount of freedom so they will keep coming.

"When the monster comes, he comes for everybody."

[TheRealBadger]

So you support a possible injustice because you just don’t like someone.

And the injustice is?

[cptlo306]

Nothing will happen to Biden while he is POTUS. That is one of the many reasons the Republicans have to win in 2024. They need to win the White House and the Senate (and keep the House). Then clean house and indict everyone.

If Trump is guilty, he should get convicted. Same for Biden. If you really want revenge and for Biden, etc. to get indicted, the best way to get that done is to support someone other than Trump for the Republican nomination.

[gs568]

Nothing will happen to Biden while he is POTUS. That is one of the many reasons the Republicans have to win in 2024. They need to win the White House and the Senate (and keep the House). Then clean house and indict everyone.

If Trump is guilty, he should get convicted. Same for Biden. If you really want revenge and for Biden, etc. to get indicted, the best way to get that done is to support someone other than Trump for the Republican nomination.

Other career politicians won’t go after Biden.

[TheRealBadger]

Nothing will happen to Biden while he is POTUS. That is one of the many reasons the Republicans have to win in 2024. They need to win the White House and the Senate (and keep the House). Then clean house and indict everyone.

If Trump is guilty, he should get convicted. Same for Biden. If you really want revenge and for Biden, etc. to get indicted, the best way to get that done is to support someone other than Trump for the Republican nomination.

No. Presidency should not be about revenge. That’s what is wrong with trump too.

It should be about progress and looking forward.

[cptlo306]

Other career politicians won’t go after Biden.

I think DeSantis would.

I actually question if Trump would though. Remember how he promised to go after Hillary and then didn't?

[cptlo306]

I think DeSantis would.


Speaking of DeSantis...

https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1666986884604522499

The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society.

We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law depending upon political affiliation.

Why so zealous in pursuing Trump yet so passive about Hillary or Hunter?

The DeSantis administration will bring accountability to the DOJ, excise political bias and end weaponization once and for all.

[gs568]

I think DeSantis would.

I actually question if Trump would though. Remember how he promised to go after Hillary and then didn't?

I don’t have the same faith as you in DeSantis. You are correct about the Hillary situation. He delivered more than expected even though he was surrounded by backstabbers.

[TheRealBadger]

Speaking of DeSantis...

https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1666986884604522499

Oh look, someone who can make a solid argument without looking like a child through a tantrum.

[cptlo306]

I don’t have the same faith as you in DeSantis. You are correct about the Hillary situation. He delivered more than expected even though he was surrounded by backstabbers.

It is fair to be uncertain about DeSantis as POTUS. Being POTUS is much different than being the governor of Florida. However, he has a history of doing what he says and not backing down.

Would Trump go scorched earth if he wins again? Maybe, but he has a history of talking a big game but not executing when it comes to the deep state. All it takes is someone kissing his ass and he backs off.

Biden needs to be held accountable. Same for Wray and others. Biden winning again (or Newsom/Harris/whomever) and that will never happen.

[Bill]

Here's another example of banana republic. This is the gay dude who has been campaigning for Trump and Republicans zealously. He's true grass roots. And lawfare is being used against him, too:

https://media.patriots.win/post/n0YjJ4ZwQEMT.jpeg

I seriously doubt this gay dude who is very well known, beat the shit out of 8 officers. C'mon, man!


What's happening is weaponizing the legal system against political enemies. I don't get why some of you seem to be celebrating that, or blaming the victims.

If the corrupt sheriff stole your car, robbed your house, rustled your cattle, and raped your wife, would you want the rest of us to blame you for causing so much drama and problems? After all, if you'd have just quietly left town, the sheriff wouldn't have had to do all that to you. You're the bad person, not the crooked sheriff who keeps hitting you.



Edit: Here's a real life example of what being targeted unfairly actually looks lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_YfwoVaEg

Pasco County, Florida Sheriff's Dept.

[Bill]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/breaking-bidens-doj-tried-bribe-attorney-trumps-valet/

https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1666908778518675456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1666908778518675456%7Ctwgr%5E668c3a97bfae28dccd240a66303fe1d1e583905e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2023%2F06%2Fbreaking-bidens-doj-tried-bribe-attorney-trumps-valet%2F


The lawyer for Donald Trump’s valet, under scrutiny in the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation, has submitted court papers describing a meeting at which a top federal prosecutor brought up his application to be a judge when they tried to gain the valet’s cooperation last year, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The allegation, described in a letter filed under seal with the chief US judge in Washington, James Boasberg, could affect the investigation just as prosecutors are considering whether to bring charges…

…At issue is an incident that took place last year, around November, when prosecutors were trying to gain the cooperation of valet Walt Nauta, who has been under scrutiny because prosecutors suspected he helped the former president conceal classified documents that had been subpoenaed.

Nauta had already spoken to prosecutors in the investigation when they called his lawyer Stanley Woodward and summoned him to a meeting at justice department headquarters for an urgent matter that they were reluctant to discuss over the phone, the letter said.

When Woodward arrived at the conference room, he was seated across from several prosecutors working on the investigation, including the chief of the counterintelligence section, Jay Bratt, who explained that they wanted Nauta to cooperate with the government against Trump, the letter said.

Nauta should cooperate with the government because he had given potentially conflicting testimony that could result in a false statements charge, the prosecutors said according to the letter. Woodward is said to have demurred, disputing that Nauta had made false statements.

Bratt then turned to Woodward and remarked that he did not think that Woodward was a “Trump guy” and that “he would do the right thing”, before noting that he knew Woodward had submitted an application to be a judge at the superior court in Washington DC that was currently pending, the letter said.

[Frankie the Fink]

Here's another example of banana republic. This is the gay dude who has been campaigning for Trump and Republicans zealously. He's true grass roots. And lawfare is being used against him, too:

https://media.patriots.win/post/n0YjJ4ZwQEMT.jpeg

I seriously doubt this gay dude who is very well known, beat the shit out of 8 officers. C'mon, man!


What's happening is weaponizing the legal system against political enemies. I don't get why some of you seem to be celebrating that, or blaming the victims.

If the corrupt sheriff stole your car, robbed your house, rustled your cattle, and raped your wife, would you want the rest of us to blame you for causing so much drama and problems? After all, if you'd have just quietly left town, the sheriff wouldn't have had to do all that to you. You're the bad person, not the crooked sheriff who keeps hitting you.
They don't have to win or even have a credible case in a civil suit, just have to tie you up in damaged reputation, legal costs, time invested....
NEVER FORGET: "The Process IS The Punishment"

[Strats-N-Vettes]

They don't have to win or even have a credible case in a civil suit, just have to tie you up in damaged reputation, legal costs, time invested....
NEVER FORGET: "The Process IS The Punishment"


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Pretty much spot-on these days. :yesnod:

[Frankie the Fink]

Sadly I think many are starting to feel that way. The difference with this one is that it's not a conspiracy theory or a witch hunt, he had the documents and they were recovered from him. I think what's important is how implicit he was to obstructing in getting them back.

Also, if you don't think this same prosecutor won't indict him for January 6th I think you would be wrong. I just fear if elected his entire term would be a waste of time fighting off legal issues.
If Trump is elected the country will descend into gridlock and contention and various fighting among -- well, EVERybody. We don't have a two-party system any longer - just a uniparty wanting to keep the status quo for the most part..
As to the document charges, that has been miscast in so many way its ridiculous - negotiating with NARA over the PRA is not necessarily obstructing and what kind of archive let's Biden make off with classified docs as a senator anyway ?

Bottom line; Trump is the most politically persecuted politician in history - ever.

[TheRealBadger]

If Trump is elected the country will descend into gridlock and contention and various fighting among -- well, EVERybody. We don't have a two-party system any longer - just a uniparty wanting to keep the status quo for the most part..
As to the document charges, that has been miscast in so many way its ridiculous - negotiating with NARA over the PRA is not necessarily obstructing and what kind of archive let's Biden make off with classified docs as a senator anyway ?

Bottom line; Trump is the most politically persecuted politician in history - ever.

In history? Probably not. But in our history? For sure.

And warranted.

[cptlo306]

Exclusive: Donald Trump admits on tape he didn’t declassify ‘secret information’
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html

[Bill]

Exclusive: Donald Trump admits on tape he didn’t declassify ‘secret information’
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html

Trump made his fortune off selling government secrets and influence to foreign powers. He's truly a traitor to the country who sold us out for a quick buck.


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[LATB]

In history? Probably not. But in our history? For sure.

And warranted.

Warranted? Please tell us that you are trolling with that.

[Frankie the Fink]

In history? Probably not. But in our history? For sure.

And warranted.
Name another...Hitler ? Mussolini ? Remote possibility is Nero...

And if Trump is guilty, Biden is in spades. Does ANYBODY here think that this indictment coming within hours of the Biden bribery documentation information is a coincidence ? Anybody ? Raise your hand ? You in the back ?? Anybody ?

[Bill]

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[Vandelay Industries]

Warranted? Please tell us that you are trolling with that.

That's all he does.

[cptlo306]

I don’t have the same faith as you in DeSantis. You are correct about the Hillary situation. He delivered more than expected even though he was surrounded by backstabbers.

Maybe this is an indication that DeSantis would go after Biden, Hillary, etc.

11 House Republicans call for prosecutions of Clinton, Comey, Lynch, and others
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/18/17252290/desantis-letter-prosecute-clinton-comey?utm_campaign=vox.social&utm_medium=social&utm_source=sprout&utm_content=1524069467

Eleven House Republicans — Ron DeSantis, Andy Biggs, Dave Brat, Jeff Duncan, Matt Gaetz, Paul Gosar, Andy Harris, Jody Hice, Todd Rokita, Claudia Tenney, and Ted Yoho — have signed a joint letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions calling for the criminal prosecution of Hillary Clinton and a variety of other Obama administration appointees, career FBI officials, and even Trump appointee Dana Boente, who is currently the FBI’s general counsel.

[Aerovette]

Trump made his fortune off selling government secrets and influence to foreign powers. He's truly a traitor to the country who sold us out for a quick buck.


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Is my sarcasm meter broken or is this your actual opinion?

[Vette40th]

If guilty, guilty..Who cares. All they are doing is building up his base of followers.
If he wins the nomination, we all need to vote for him.. Dont be an ass and vote for the independent, just to be some high and mighty person. All that does is help keep Obama/Biden in office.

[Frankie the Fink]

I worked for DOJ and retired from there in 2001 and consulted to them for another 5 years...different agency back then (Ashcroft, etc.). And yes, if guilty then prosecute, just do the same for all offenders regardless of political affiliation. Bearing in mind that a bunch of ex-Presidents did similar things and it was worked out with the cognizant agency and wasn't the impetus for rabid prosecutors and expensive investigations.

[gs568]

Corrupt politicians slopping more shit on the wall in hopes that something sticks. They all hate him because he exposes their corruption. Voting for anyone other than Trump is a vote for continued corruption at our expense.

[Bill]

:island14:

Is my sarcasm meter broken or is this your actual opinion?

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[Onebadcad]

Those who see justice in this BS charges are probably also the same ones who blame him solely for JAN 6, and agree with the sexual assault verdict.

Once you hate Trump, you hate him at all levels, while sacrificing your rights, as you rubber stamp the targeting and one-off court actions.

There was a time when real men would meet in the ring, today's socialists opt to break your legs before you get into the arena.

[gs568]

When will they indict him for hurting the feelings of weak minded people???

[Taurus]

When will they indict him for hurting the feelings of weak minded people???

When he does that maybe, right now they're indicting him for taking classified documents and obstruction and who knows what. He brought this on himself.

The question is when will his supporters just admit we're here again because Trump had to be Trump and stop blaming everyone else. My feelings are not hurt by Trump, his lack of understanding between right and wrong is what bothers me. His need to pick a fight and blame others when it blows up in his face bothers me. His followers blaming everyone and everything else when he does this is what bothers me.

He'll get his day in court for this indictment as well as the last one and the ones to come so he can show us all how innocent he is and how everyone else is to blame. All he had to do is give them back and cooperate like Pence and Biden did when they were found instead of hiding them, claiming he declassified them, saying he could do whatever he wanted with them and on and on.

He did this to himself and all the whining isn't going to change that. The real shame is he is making it almost impossible for him to be effective as a leader in any capacity ever again and all the good he could have done will never happen. His fault, no one else's.

[slewfoot]

I wonder when they arrested Trump, if they skipped the "you have the right to remain silent part" and just went on with the rest of it.

[Onebadcad]

When will they indict him for hurting the feelings of weak minded people???

Some in here, who are two-faced regarding personal rights and freedoms, would join the class-action.

[TheRealBadger]

If guilty, guilty..Who cares. All they are doing is building up his base of followers.
If he wins the nomination, we all need to vote for him.. Dont be an ass and vote for the independent, just to be some high and mighty person. All that does is help keep Obama/Biden in office.

You think this is building his base?

Yeah. No.

Galvanizing the right wing nut jobs? Sure. Building more? No.

[TheRealBadger]

I worked for DOJ and retired from there in 2001 and consulted to them for another 5 years...different agency back then (Ashcroft, etc.). And yes, if guilty then prosecute, just do the same for all offenders regardless of political affiliation. Bearing in mind that a bunch of ex-Presidents did similar things and it was worked out with the cognizant agency and wasn't the impetus for rabid prosecutors and expensive investigations.

Maybe if he had returned them when originally asked multiple times then we wouldn’t be here. No?

You think maybe this was pre-meditated on his part? Maybe?

[Onebadcad]

When he does that maybe, right now they're indicting him for taking classified documents and obstruction and who knows what. He brought this on himself.

The question is when will his supporters just admit we're here again because Trump had to be Trump and stop blaming everyone else. My feelings are not hurt by Trump, his lack of understanding between right and wrong is what bothers me. His need to pick a fight and blame others when it blows up in his face bothers me. His followers blaming everyone and everything else when he does this is what bothers me.

He'll get his day in court for this indictment as well as the last one and the ones to come so he can show us all how innocent he is and how everyone else is to blame. All he had to do is give them back and cooperate like Pence and Biden did when they were found instead of hiding them, claiming he declassified them, saying he could do whatever he wanted with them and on and on.

He did this to himself and all the whining isn't going to change that. The real shame is he is making it almost impossible for him to be effective as a leader in any capacity ever again and all the good he could have done will never happen. His fault, no one else's.

I believe you have stated the above numerous times in different posts.
You hate Trump, you always have, hopefully you never sit on a jury when he is tried, as you have proven again, and again, and again, objectivity is not strong point.

Trump IS THE TARGET, as he is the only one willing to stand up to the facists, in attempt to save Our Great Nation.
He could walk away now and all would be good for him, but he is doing this for us, he has always acted in the way, being POTUS cost him $1+B, but he never once regretted his choice.

[gs568]

When he does that maybe, right now they're indicting him for taking classified documents and obstruction and who knows what. He brought this on himself.

The question is when will his supporters just admit we're here again because Trump had to be Trump and stop blaming everyone else. My feelings are not hurt by Trump, his lack of understanding between right and wrong is what bothers me. His need to pick a fight and blame others when it blows up in his face bothers me. His followers blaming everyone and everything else when he does this is what bothers me.

He'll get his day in court for this indictment as well as the last one and the ones to come so he can show us all how innocent he is and how everyone else is to blame. All he had to do is give them back and cooperate like Pence and Biden did when they were found instead of hiding them, claiming he declassified them, saying he could do whatever he wanted with them and on and on.

He did this to himself and all the whining isn't going to change that. The real shame is he is making it almost impossible for him to be effective as a leader in any capacity ever again and all the good he could have done will never happen. His fault, no one else's.

Where’s your proof that my Mom bought my condo?

[UniqueDoug]

May as well put this out there, not sure how I feel about it yet…

Not sure how you feel about it? :skep: Just a few days ago you were hoping it was true.

[Onebadcad]

The real shame is he is making it almost impossible for him to be effective as a leader in any capacity ever again and all the good he could have done will never happen. His fault, no one else's.

You need to call the facists in dc and let them know it worked with / on you, they will thank you.

Many others see this as injustice, application of law to the nth degree for the first time ever, hundreds of lawsuits in process to exhaust and bankrupt Trump, while ignoring much higher crimes by a sitting potus, and his family, and his cabal--AND AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, OBAMA KNEW 100% OF ALL THINGS, A FOREIGN GOV DOES NOT MAKE TENS OF MILLIONS IN PAYMENT TO BIDEN WITHOUT THE ASSURANCE THE BIG MAN WILL FACILITATE THE REQUEST. Follow the money trail, it will also lead to the kenyan.

Then again, you are good with all this,,,

[Vandelay Industries]

When he does that maybe, right now they're indicting him for taking classified documents and obstruction and who knows what. He brought this on himself.

The question is when will his supporters just admit we're here again because Trump had to be Trump and stop blaming everyone else. My feelings are not hurt by Trump, his lack of understanding between right and wrong is what bothers me. His need to pick a fight and blame others when it blows up in his face bothers me. His followers blaming everyone and everything else when he does this is what bothers me.

He'll get his day in court for this indictment as well as the last one and the ones to come so he can show us all how innocent he is and how everyone else is to blame. All he had to do is give them back and cooperate like Pence and Biden did when they were found instead of hiding them, claiming he declassified them, saying he could do whatever he wanted with them and on and on.

He did this to himself and all the whining isn't going to change that. The real shame is he is making it almost impossible for him to be effective as a leader in any capacity ever again and all the good he could have done will never happen. His fault, no one else's.

So cute. :rofl::lol::rofl:

[Onebadcad]

The same POSs that keep all the Trump BS going, with hundreds of pending indictments, are the same people who in 2016 committed crimes 1,000,000X more illegal and more in-depth than Watergate, and yet, NONE have even been placed before a prosecutor for consideration, let alone be served or arrested.

Yeah, keep telling me how fair this is,,,

[Vandelay Industries]

You need to call the facists in dc and let them know it worked with / on you, they will thank you.

Many others see this as injustice, application of law to the nth degree for the first time ever, hundreds of lawsuits in process to exhaust and bankrupt Trump, while ignoring much higher crimes by a sitting potus, and his family, and his cabal--AND AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, OBAMA KNEW 100% OF ALL THINGS, A FOREIGN GOV DOES NOT MAKE TENS OF MILLIONS IN PAYMENT TO BIDEN WITHOUT THE ASSURANCE THE BIG MAN WILL FACILITATE THE REQUEST. Follow the money trail, it will also lead to the kenyan.

Then again, you are good with all this,,,

No, no, no....can't you see he's just a concerned, middle of the road average American who has no preconceived notions about Trump? He just wants the facts and will make an informed decision to imprison his political enemies after that.

Trust him, this is only about Trump. This playbook won't be used again by the Dems on the next GOP candidate. Never, ever, ever.

:Jeff '79:

[slewfoot]

Trump is a simple Narcissistic, Entitled Douchebag. He's admitted to it all, well except for the women part. :rofl: I still do not see any GOP backing on him except for that lip locking suck-hole Lindsey Graham.

I never claimed Biden was the best choice, just the lesser of two who have mental issues. Trump has lost his fkn mind, Biden has some left.

My plus on Biden is complete lack of social media and starting crap. Trump is a racist with bullying dictator style of governing. He can't keep a respectable staff for very long.

All the crap he pulled the last time will happen all over again. If Pence were to make it in, I would vote for him over Biden.

At least he has values

[LATB]

Trump is a simple Narcissistic, Entitled Douchebag. He's admitted to it all, well except for the women part. :rofl: I still do not see any GOP backing on him except for that lip locking suck-hole Lindsey Graham.

I never claimed Biden was the best choice, just the lesser of two who have mental issues. Trump has lost his fkn mind, Biden has some left.

My plus on Biden is complete lack of social media and starting crap. Trump is a racist with bullying dictator style of governing. He can't keep a respectable staff for very long.

All the crap he pulled the last time will happen all over again. If Pence were to make it in, I would vote for him over Biden.

At least he has values

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Taurus]

I believe you have stated the above numerous times in different posts.
You hate Trump, you always have, hopefully you never sit on a jury when he is tried, as you have proven again, and again, and again, objectivity is not strong point.

Trump IS THE TARGET, as he is the only one willing to stand up to the facists, in attempt to save Our Great Nation.
He could walk away now and all would be good for him, but he is doing this for us, he has always acted in the way, being POTUS cost him $1+B, but he never once regretted his choice.

If you would care to go and look, you will not find one post in which I said I hate Trump. I think he's a poor choice for a leader, I don't respect him and I don't trust him. Those are things I've said. Now you want to say that I have a problem with being objective, I could say the same to you as you would let him have a pass based on your love for the man.

Trump is the target because they suspect Trump may have committed the crime and apparently have the evidence to prove it, no other reason.

[TheHammer]

Trump is a simple Narcissistic, Entitled Douchebag. He's admitted to it all, well except for the women part. :rofl: I still do not see any GOP backing on him except for that lip locking suck-hole Lindsey Graham.

I never claimed Biden was the best choice, just the lesser of two who have mental issues. Trump has lost his fkn mind, Biden has some left.

My plus on Biden is complete lack of social media and starting crap. Trump is a racist with bullying dictator style of governing. He can't keep a respectable staff for very long.

All the crap he pulled the last time will happen all over again. If Pence were to make it in, I would vote for him over Biden.

At least he has values

:rofl:

[LATB]

Voting for Biden over Trump is like hiring an incompetent plumber who will intentionally **** up your chit instead of the plumber who’s a douche bag but does outstanding plumbing work.

[Taurus]

The same POSs that keep all the Trump BS going, with hundreds of pending indictments, are the same people who in 2016 committed crimes 1,000,000X more illegal and more in-depth than Watergate, and yet, NONE have even been placed before a prosecutor for consideration, let alone be served or arrested.

Yeah, keep telling me how fair this is,,,

Yup EVERYONE is out to get Trump, EVERY agency, EVERY judge, EVERY witness, EVERY media outlet, EVERY election official.

It's NEVER Trump. I understand your position, trump is good, the rest of America is bad.

[Aerovette]

Meh, you can indict a slice of toast.

I'm looking forward to the trial. I hope his lawyers aren't backstabbing pieces of shit like the rest of DC is.

Yup EVERYONE is out to get Trump, EVERY agency, EVERY judge, EVERY witness, EVERY media outlet, EVERY election official.

It's NEVER Trump. I understand your position, trump is good, the rest of America is bad.

You say this with sarcasm and don't actually comprehend how true it is.

[Vandelay Industries]

The same POSs that keep all the Trump BS going, with hundreds of pending indictments, are the same people who in 2016 committed crimes 1,000,000X more illegal and more in-depth than Watergate, and yet, NONE have even been placed before a prosecutor for consideration, let alone be served or arrested.

Yeah, keep telling me how fair this is,,,

Trump has been the VICTIM of illegal targeting since he came down the escalator in 2015. Nothing has changed. :yesnod:

[TheRealBadger]

Voting for Biden over Trump is like hiring an incompetent plumber who will intentionally **** up your chit instead of the plumber who’s a douche bag but does outstanding plumbing work.

Or, an incompetent plumber who will just sleep through the appointment, accomplish nothing, and allow time to find a competent one who is also NOT a raving lunatic douchebag.

[Taurus]

Trump has been the VICTIM of illegal targeting since he came down the escalator in 2015. Nothing has changed. :yesnod:

Trump has been Trump ever since he came down the escalator and that hasn't changed. Maybe that's the problem?

[Taurus]

Or, an incompetent plumber who will just sleep through the appointment, accomplish nothing, and allow time to find a competent one who is also NOT a raving lunatic douchebag.

Exactly, as I refer to him as a safe place holder who will do less harm.

[Taurus]

Meh, you can indict a slice of toast.

I'm looking forward to the trial. I hope his lawyers aren't backstabbing pieces of shit like the rest of DC is.



You say this with sarcasm and don't actually comprehend how true it is.

None of us will know until the trial. However, I play the odds and Trump is the common denominator.

[Taurus]

Yet in another post thought lawyers going to doj was a nothing burger. He flips on issues be careful. :seasix:

and I still think it was a nothing burger. I don't think it had any impact on what was going to happen.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/DxY5tucgfUjP.jpeg

[StudleyJames]

If you would care to go and look, you will not find one post in which I said I hate Trump. I think he's a poor choice for a leader, I don't respect him and I don't trust him. Those are things I've said. Now you want to say that I have a problem with being objective, I could say the same to you as you would let him have a pass based on your love for the man.

Trump is the target because they suspect Trump may have committed the crime and apparently have the evidence to prove it, no other reason.
Where is the evidence he did not de-classify?
Why are they only charging him with refusing to give the documents about the Obama cabal back the the DOJ to lose or destroy then?

[Aerovette]

None of us will know until the trial. However, I play the odds and Trump is the common denominator.

You're exactly right. Just as Jews were the common denominator in Germany. I guess that was the Jew's fault.

[Aerovette]

Trump has been Trump ever since he came down the escalator and that hasn't changed. Maybe that's the problem?

It's not a problem for Americans. It is a huge problem for corrupt politicians and foreign leaders.

[Taurus]

You're exactly right. Just as Jews were the common denominator in Germany. I guess that was the Jew's fault.

So comparing America to Nazi Germany, right.

I think I know you better than that. The Jews were never accused of committing a crime, they were persecuted for being Jews. I'm not sure how you can compare the holocaust, a mass extermination of human beings, to Trump being accused of committing crimes like stealing and hiding classified documents.

If that's really what you think then OK I guess.

[Taurus]

It's not a problem for Americans. It is a huge problem for corrupt politicians and foreign leaders.

I would disagree (big surprise I know), if you are correct why was he only a one term president? Don't say MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD because we know now that didn't happen.

[Taurus]

Where is the evedence he did not de-classify?
Why are they only charging him with refusing to give the documents about the Obama cabal back the the DOJ to lose or destroy then?

I'm guessing the DOJ has that evidence, we'll see. Also, neither you or I know what they are charging him with yet, let's just wait.

[The_Dude]

Two of Donald Trump's lawyers resign (https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65852074)

[Taurus]

Two of Donald Trump's lawyers resign (https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65852074)

Interesting, it's also now being reported that at least one Trump aide has been indicted as well. My guess us we'll see who rolled on Trump and who didn't over the next few days. I'm thinking not too many people want to end up like Cohen did.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/walt-nauta-trump-indicted/index.html#:~:text=Walt%20Nauta%2C%20an%20aide%20to,with%20the%20indictment%20tell%20CNN.

[Vandelay Industries]

Trump has been Trump ever since he came down the escalator and that hasn't changed. Maybe that's the problem?

I actually agree with you here.

Trump being Trump is a threat to the dem party and other establishment pols.

That kind of thing is only a crime in banana republics.

[UniqueDoug]

Where is the evidence he did not de-classify?
Why are they only charging him with refusing to give the documents about the Obama cabal back the the DOJ to lose or destroy then?

They just played a recording on the local ABC news where Trump essentially admits he did not declassify them before he left office, and couldn’t do it once he left.

[UniqueDoug]

So comparing America to Nazi Germany, right.

I think I know you better than that. The Jews were never accused of committing a crime, they were persecuted for being Jews. I'm not sure how you can compare the holocaust, a mass extermination of human beings, to Trump being accused of committing crimes like stealing and hiding classified documents.

If that's really what you think then OK I guess.

He loves his analogies but that was a horrible one.

[Aerovette]

So comparing America to Nazi Germany, right.

I think I know you better than that. The Jews were never accused of committing a crime, they were persecuted for being Jews. I'm not sure how you can compare the holocaust, a mass extermination of human beings, to Trump being accused of committing crimes like stealing and hiding classified documents.

If that's really what you think then OK I guess.

No. Comparing persecution of Jews to the persecution of a President. Persecution does not mean they are the problem. It means they are the scapegoat, the excuse, the example.

Jews were the PERCEIVED threat to Hitler's methods. Hitler believed that eliminating them, made for a better Germany.

Trump is an ACTUAL threat to DC's methods. DC believes that eliminating Trump makes for a better America.

[Aerovette]

He loves his analogies but that was a horrible one.

Your inability to understand it is your problem. Be smarter.

[TheRealBadger]

He loves his analogies but that was a horrible one.

If there is an analogy here, it’s closer to a sitting leader refusing to respect the will of the people and attempting to overthrow a government. Let’s not forget that same president also turns on his own people at the drop of a hat, has a great relationship with two atrocious dictators in Russia and North Korea. The later he calls a dear friend.

When it appears the entire world is against you, it’s not the world that is the problem.

[gs568]

If there is an analogy here, it’s closer to a sitting leader refusing to respect the will of the people and attempting to overthrow a government. Let’s not forget that same president also turns on his own people at the drop of a hat, has a great relationship with two atrocious dictators in Russia and North Korea. The later he calls a dear friend.

When it appears the entire world is against you, it’s not the world that is the problem.

The will of the people? Oh yeah, counting stopped at multiple locations that kind of will of the people. Turns on backstabbers, hell yes. Shows a little bit of respect to dem labeled enemies. Sure, if that what it takes to avoid war.

Globalists and the corrupt career politicians are against Trump. MAGA.

[Taurus]

No. Comparing persecution of Jews to the persecution of a President. Persecution does not mean they are the problem. It means they are the scapegoat, the excuse, the example.

Jews were the PERCEIVED threat to Hitler's methods. Hitler believed that eliminating them, made for a better Germany.

Trump is an ACTUAL threat to DC's methods. DC believes that eliminating Trump makes for a better America.

The reason this doesn't work is that the Jews did nothing to cause the persecution did they. Trump is knee deep in all this by his own doing.

[TheRealBadger]

The will of the people? Oh yeah, counting stopped at multiple locations that kind of will of the people. Turns on backstabbers, hell yes. Shows a little bit of respect to dem labeled enemies. Sure, if that what it takes to avoid war.

Globalists and the corrupt career politicians are against Trump. MAGA.

Oh, we’re back to the old conspiracy theory on voting again. The one that has been thrown out of the courts more than 1000 times.

Wait, those backstabbers duped him again? And again? And again? Wow. Must be either stupid or gullible.

[Taurus]

Oh, we’re back to the old conspiracy theory on voting again. The one that has been thrown out of the courts more than 1000 times.

Wait, those backstabbers duped him again? And again? And again? Wow. Must be either stupid or gullible.

Exactly, the people Trump and his supporters claim to be clueless keep outsmarting him. Happens all the time in Trump world.

[UniqueDoug]

Your inability to understand it is your problem. Be smarter.

Don’t need to, Jon already typed the smart and logical retort.

The reason this doesn't work is that the Jews did nothing to cause the persecution did they. Trump is knee deep in all this by his own doing.

[Vandelay Industries]

If there is an analogy here, it’s closer to a sitting leader refusing to respect the will of the people and attempting to overthrow a government. Let’s not forget that same president also turns on his own people at the drop of a hat, has a great relationship with two atrocious dictators in Russia and North Korea. The later he calls a dear friend.

When it appears the entire world is against you, it’s not the world that is the problem.

Ok, so now we're talking about Obama and Biden.

[gs568]

Oh, we’re back to the old conspiracy theory on voting again. The one that has been thrown out of the courts more than 1000 times.

Wait, those backstabbers duped him again? And again? And again? Wow. Must be either stupid or gullible.

Sure, 1000 of times. Lol. Just keep supporting the same old corrupt system.

[Aerovette]

Corrupt foreign governments hate Trump because unlike the rest of DC, he couldn't be bought and an attempt to do so would be exposed.

Corrupt US politicians hate him because he's going to mess up their finances.

Liberals don't like him because he believes in working for a living and because they are easily offended by his words.

You know who would have really gotten along with him? The founders of this country.

[Aerovette]

Don’t need to, Jon already typed the smart and logical retort.

Great, so you can not understand the post together.

[gs568]

Holy in denial batman. Everyone is against trump and his supporters, right.

It’s obvious if you see the bigger picture.

[gs568]

Corrupt foreign governments hate Trump because unlike the rest of DC, he couldn't be bought and an attempt to do so would be exposed.

Corrupt US politicians hate him because he's going to mess up their finances.

Liberals don't like him because he believes in working for a living and because they are easily offended by his words.

You know who would have really gotten along with him? The founders of this country.

This all day long. So many countries want globalization. Look at what Soros has done towards that goal. So many countries have their hands out for monies from our taxpayer dollars. Why can’t we spend our money to fix our problems and improve our own country??

[TheRealBadger]

Sure, 1000 of times. Lol. Just keep supporting the same old corrupt system.

Ah, so all the judges are corrupt now too.

[gs568]

Sometimes there is no big picture. Just hard feels because you support him and will never take an objective look at things.:yesnod:

That’s your belief. I’m not the only one to see otherwise.

[gs568]

Ah, so all the judges are corrupt now too.

You say 1000’s of cases. Link them up. There is corruption throughout our country including the court system.

[UniqueDoug]

Great, so you can not understand the post together.

Like Hek said, Trump brought this “persecution” on himself, even admitted on tape in ‘21 that “as president I could have declassified, but now I can’t.“

Guilty as charged, no persecution, Trump is not the Jew from the poor analogy.

[TheRealBadger]

You say 1000’s of cases. Link them up. There is corruption throughout our country including the court system.

No, that’s not the way here as I’ve been reminded many times. You don’t like it, prove me wrong.

[TheRealBadger]

Many people believe the world was once flat as well. :rofl:

Or that Hitler was “Going to make Germany Great Again.”

[Aerovette]

The reason this doesn't work is that the Jews did nothing to cause the persecution did they. Trump is knee deep in all this by his own doing.

Whatever. I heard the talking heads this morning speaking about Trump's "baggage". All I could think of is how they are the ones that packed those bags.

Call it "whataboutism", I DGAS but there are those in DC and the families of those in DC that should have been seeing FAR more "justice" than Trump is seeing. so if this is about each person's own wrong doings, go after all of them equally. How is it that Hunter is a victim (as you can clearly see from the pictures on his laptop) of false information, but ANYTHING said about Trump in a negative light is assumed to be true?

How can ANYONE with at least two brain cells that communicate, not see the incredible imbalance?

How is it that Obama, Pelosi, et al have amassed such wealth from a job that pays less than most CEOs?

I am blown away by the absolute ignorance liberals and fake conservatives display. It is mind-boggling. They continue to try to convince us that 1+1=5 no matter how many times you explain that it doesn't.

[gs568]

No, that’s not the way here as I’ve been reminded many times. You don’t like it, prove me wrong.

Best President in our country’s history. Prove me wrong.

[cptlo306]

How can ANYONE with at least two brain cells that communicate, not see the incredible imbalance?

How is it that Obama, Pelosi, et al have amassed such wealth from a job that pays less than most CEOs?


You are 100% percent correct. However, that doesn't mean Trump is innocent.

Some of us agree that the system is corrupt and skewed to one side while at the same time realize that Trump is his own worst enemy and could actually be guilty of committing crimes.

[TheRealBadger]

Whatever. I heard the talking heads this morning speaking about Trump's "baggage". All I could think of is how they are the ones that packed those bags.

Call it "whataboutism", I DGAS but there are those in DC and the families of those in DC that should have been seeing FAR more "justice" than Trump is seeing. so if this is about each person's own wrong doings, go after all of them equally. How is it that Hunter is a victim (as you can clearly see from the pictures on his laptop) of false information, but ANYTHING said about Trump in a negative light is assumed to be true?

How can ANYONE with at least two brain cells that communicate, not see the incredible imbalance?

How is it that Obama, Pelosi, et al have amassed such wealth from a job that pays less than most CEOs?

I am blown away by the absolute ignorance liberals and fake conservatives display. It is mind-boggling. They continue to try to convince us that 1+1=5 no matter how many times you explain that it doesn't.

You still can’t figure out that Pelosi’s husband is a real estate investor and venture capitalist? The fact their net worth is only $150M means they aren’t as good as Trump, right?

[UniqueDoug]

Whatever. I heard the talking heads this morning speaking about Trump's "baggage". All I could think of is how they are the ones that packed those bags.

Call it "whataboutism", I DGAS but there are those in DC and the families of those in DC that should have been seeing FAR more "justice" than Trump is seeing. so if this is about each person's own wrong doings, go after all of them equally. How is it that Hunter is a victim (as you can clearly see from the pictures on his laptop) of false information, but ANYTHING said about Trump in a negative light is assumed to be true?

How can ANYONE with at least two brain cells that communicate, not see the incredible imbalance?

How is it that Obama, Pelosi, et al have amassed such wealth from a job that pays less than most CEOs?

I am blown away by the absolute ignorance liberals and fake conservatives display. It is mind-boggling. They continue to try to convince us that 1+1=5 no matter how many times you explain that it doesn't.

So those who don’t whine that their brother is doing the same thing and should be in timeout as well are fake conservatives now? lol

[Aerovette]

So those who don’t whine that their brother is doing the same thing and should be in timeout as well are fake conservatives now? lol

Doug, if that was your take away. then that's great. You just stick with that. I'm not gonna go all "soda fountain" on you and attack. You just go with what you think I said.

[Onebadcad]

Trump is a simple Narcissistic, Entitled Douchebag. He's admitted to it all, well except for the women part. :rofl: I still do not see any GOP backing on him except for that lip locking suck-hole Lindsey Graham.

I never claimed Biden was the best choice, just the lesser of two who have mental issues. Trump has lost his fkn mind, Biden has some left.

My plus on Biden is complete lack of social media and starting crap. Trump is a racist with bullying dictator style of governing. He can't keep a respectable staff for very long.

All the crap he pulled the last time will happen all over again. If Pence were to make it in, I would vote for him over Biden.

At least he has values

You said it, now prove it.
Once you realize it is a lie, a lie to serve your narrative, you need to apologize to all in here, and take a self-imposed vacation.

[cptlo306]

Hardcore Trumpers: Anyone that doesn't support Trump regardless of what he does is a weak RINO globalist ignorant person.

:nono:

[LATB]

You said it, now prove it.
Once you realize it is a lie, a lie to serve your narrative, you need to apologize to all in here, and take a self-imposed vacation.

Don't hold your breath.

[TheRealBadger]

Best President in our country’s history. Prove me wrong.

I know that you believe that.

[Onebadcad]

Trump has been Trump ever since he came down the escalator and that hasn't changed. Maybe that's the problem?

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

[TheRealBadger]

Hardcore Trumpers: Anyone that doesn't support Trump regardless of what he does is a weak RINO globalist ignorant person.

:nono:

You forgot to add “idiot, blind, mother****er, ****er, asshole, Chicom shill, etc”

They only know one way, when cornered, ATTACK

[TheRealBadger]

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

Loved by all

:rofl:

[UniqueDoug]

Doug, if that was your take away. then that's great. You just stick with that. I'm not gonna go all "soda fountain" on you and attack. You just go with what you think I said.

You can do all the ad hominem attacks and condescension you want, it’s not gonna make your position or your analogy any stronger. Your whole post was essentially about whataboutism.

You can continue to cry about it, I really don’t care, the Republicans have been getting punked, so the choice is easy, choose somebody that exhibits better behavior (unlike Trump), and/or figure out how to cheat and work the system better, because the political system is not going to change no matter how much you whine.

[StudleyJames]

Exactly, the people Trump and his supporters claim to be clueless keep outsmarting him. Happens all the time in Trump world.
There is no outsmarting going on, When the game is rigged 100% to one side, and the other side keeps playing by the rules, they will loose, thats why Trump is not our current POTUS which is not the will of the people.

[gs568]

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

They loved him for his money before he was elected president. Not a single word about him being a racist. He actually won awards from black organizations.

He has known about the corruption in our political system for ages. I have no doubt he greased a palm or two.

It still comes back to the fact that he cannot be bribed with sex or money like any other politician. His actions interfere with all of the industries that make millions off of these endless wars. His actions interfere with the steady flow of cheap illegal immigrant labor. His actions take away from all of the countries that sell us crude and hate our guts at the same time. Career politicians talk and talk about problems but rarely solve the problems.

[Onebadcad]

So comparing America to Nazi Germany, right.

I think I know you better than that. The Jews were never accused of committing a crime, they were persecuted for being Jews. I'm not sure how you can compare the holocaust, a mass extermination of human beings, to Trump being accused of committing crimes like stealing and hiding classified documents.

If that's really what you think then OK I guess.

Let us ALL be objective in here.
Do we think olamo's house, paid for by bribes related to national security and corps he did favors for while in office, would have been raided with 30 long guns and kevlar if he had a few non-detrimental classified documents while biden resided and garland took the orders.

As of today, we do not know how many documents of which Trump was the addressee, the nature of the documents, the correspondence between Trump lawyers and the National Archives.

What we do know is biden as a senator stole classified documents not specific to him, he had them poorly safeguarded in multiple locations, he was allowed to have his lawyers handle with no gov intervention, and the news of this has pushed into the ground deeper than Jimmy Hoffa.

Yep, these are your people you side with when you oppose Trump.

And yes, I can compare Trump's treatment to every socialists and facist regime, they all desired a one-party state with no elections needed due to they eliminated the opposition.
They want the Electoral College and the fillibuster and 60 vote in senate thrown out, while making dc and pr a state, while allowing 16-year olds to vote.

[BayouCountry]

I just heard a good interview with Andy McCarthy. He said the declassification is a non issue for the DOJ because the Espionage Act specifically deals with security violations. It doesn’t matter if the documents were declassified because they are not allowed to be out of government control.

Trump is more likely to get jail time on an obstruction charge according to McCarthy.

Media focus on Trump keeps the Biden family’s corruption out of the news. Mission accomplished!

[TheRealBadger]

There is no outsmarting going on, When the game is rigged 100% to one side, and the other side keeps playing by the rules, they will loose, thats why Trump is not our current POTUS which is not the will of the people.

:rofl:

[Onebadcad]

If there is an analogy here, it’s closer to a sitting leader refusing to respect the will of the people and attempting to overthrow a government. Let’s not forget that same president also turns on his own people at the drop of a hat, has a great relationship with two atrocious dictators in Russia and North Korea. The later he calls a dear friend.

When it appears the entire world is against you, it’s not the world that is the problem.

Please provide us all with any harm that you personally suffered due to Trump keeping both russia and nkorea at bay.
I have searched an cannot find any agreements that did such to the American people.

Thanks for playing.

[Aerovette]

You are 100% percent correct. However, that doesn't mean Trump is innocent.

Some of us agree that the system is corrupt and skewed to one side while at the same time realize that Trump is his own worst enemy and could actually be guilty of committing crimes.

Here is what I struggle with regarding this case specifically. I wonder, in his shoes, what lengths would I go, to obtain, protect, copy, whatever, information that dispelled the things I am being accused of. It's an odd conundrum because he has to break one law, to prove he didn't break another law. Do I think Trump is a "can do no wrong" angel? Hell no. Do I think he is being specifically targeted? Absolutely. The part that seems to escape the left and the Trump haters is that he is not being targeted because of laws he may or may not have broken. He is being targeted and those laws are the weapons used to target him. You may see that as gray, but it is no different than having the local sheriff out to get you because you have a better house than he does. He will search and tail and record and do everything he can to "get you" and when he does, the reason will be valid, but the motivation is complete bullshit. That is where Trump is right now.

The goal is to destroy him, but not because he broke the law, but because he is a threat to their corrupt system. The alleged law breaking is simply the method by which they will achieve their goal.

[Onebadcad]

Yes the doj seems to be shaking in their boots! I think the people have spoken for America and they didnt want trump for round two! :yesnod:

Poor spin, Trump increased in 2020 by 11.25M votes, an 18% increase from 2016.

[Aerovette]

You can do all the ad hominem attacks and condescension you want, it’s not gonna make your position or your analogy any stronger. Your whole post was essentially about whataboutism.

You can continue to cry about it, I really don’t care, the Republicans have been getting punked, so the choice is easy, choose somebody that exhibits better behavior (unlike Trump), and/or figure out how to cheat and work the system better, because the political system is not going to change no matter how much you whine.

Thanks :seasix: You're awesome.:yesnod:

[Onebadcad]

Like Hek said, Trump brought this “persecution” on himself, even admitted on tape in ‘21 that “as president I could have declassified, but now I can’t.“

Guilty as charged, no persecution, Trump is not the Jew from the poor analogy.

In a civilized, fair country, crimes are punished and meted out based on intent and how many got hurt.

Due to you feel this is the crime of the century, please advise, if you were judge, what would the sentence be, and cite precedent.

Also, explain why depends joe, who is definitely a much greater abuser of the classified document rules, is getting a free pass, even though he did not hold office of potus when he made his actions.

[Onebadcad]

Give it a rest, that was trumps tag line. He did shit now he's been impeached twice and soon to be indicted on 7 charges. You hang iin there though!:seasix:

You citing, thus agreeing, to the two banana republic impeachments allows a lot of insight to your intellect, character and personal narratives.

[UniqueDoug]

Thanks :seasix: You're awesome.:yesnod:

Anytime, I’ll be here all day long, I’ll even check in on you while I’m doing my Le Mans piece to see if you need any more assistance, I’m heading up to Aldi, do you need a fresh box of Kleenex?

[Onebadcad]

Or that Hitler was “Going to make Germany Great Again.”

Took awhile, but Godwin finally showed up.

[UniqueDoug]

In a civilized, fair country, crimes are punished and meted out based on intent and how many got hurt.

Due to you feel this is the crime of the century, please advise, if you were judge, what would the sentence be, and cite precedent.

Also, explain why depends joe, who is definitely a much greater abuser of the classified document rules, is getting a free pass, even though he did not hold office of potus when he made his actions.

As you dovetailed into the whataboutism, you didn’t use the rule you just made in the first part of your post about intent and how many people got harmed. Reconcile that then get back to me.

[Onebadcad]

You still can’t figure out that Pelosi’s husband is a real estate investor and venture capitalist? The fact their net worth is only $150M means they aren’t as good as Trump, right?

If one is objective, and does their research, it is common knowledge than a huge amount fo their joint wealth came from insider trading, which is very different than real estate and other investments.

They also made a fortune in royalties from owning the number one halloween mask since 1980.

[Onebadcad]

Loved by all

:rofl:

That was a stretch, by design, the rest is irrefutable, which is why you choose not to address.

[Taurus]

It’s obvious if you see the bigger picture.

Sometimes there is no big picture. Just hard feels because you support him and will never take an objective look at things.:yesnod:

This^^^^^

[StudleyJames]

Yet here he is impeached twice and indicted with 7 federal charges against him pending! Please show us why you carry his water so willingly?

Why do you post talking points from the democrat treasonous party to back up your opinion?
Obama has a large army that is in charge of our justice system plain and simple.

Both impeachments are bogus, you know it, I know it and all the anti democrate party people now know it, thats why the support for DJT is so strong
..FJB and anybody who agrees with the current Democrat party

[Onebadcad]

You can do all the ad hominem attacks and condescension you want, it’s not gonna make your position or your analogy any stronger. Your whole post was essentially about whataboutism.

You can continue to cry about it, I really don’t care, the Republicans have been getting punked, so the choice is easy, choose somebody that exhibits better behavior (unlike Trump), and/or figure out how to cheat and work the system better, because the political system is not going to change no matter how much you whine.

Congrats on using the most common BS bailout phrase of the worst forum moderator, and biggest ahole, in the history of the world.

[gs568]

This^^^^^

Your ignorance is bliss. :rofl:

[Onebadcad]

Loved by all my ass, you never knew him before . If you did you would know about the central park 5 and how he would call radio shows with a fake name. This is why people in the northeast laugh.at him!:yesnod:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york

How much did olamo and depends joe make in their pre-politics life, who were their early admirers.

Trump's victory in 2016 was EPIC, never done before, and will never be done until the world implodes.
The cabal is still fuming over it,,,

[Taurus]

Whatever. I heard the talking heads this morning speaking about Trump's "baggage". All I could think of is how they are the ones that packed those bags.

Call it "whataboutism", I DGAS but there are those in DC and the families of those in DC that should have been seeing FAR more "justice" than Trump is seeing. so if this is about each person's own wrong doings, go after all of them equally. How is it that Hunter is a victim (as you can clearly see from the pictures on his laptop) of false information, but ANYTHING said about Trump in a negative light is assumed to be true?

How can ANYONE with at least two brain cells that communicate, not see the incredible imbalance?

How is it that Obama, Pelosi, et al have amassed such wealth from a job that pays less than most CEOs?

I am blown away by the absolute ignorance liberals and fake conservatives display. It is mind-boggling. They continue to try to convince us that 1+1=5 no matter how many times you explain that it doesn't.

Trump was loved by all, everyone wanted his name on their product, he was the #1 ratings guy on network TV,,, and then he said he would rid dc of corruption and thieves.

If you believe he has been treated fairly, we can stop discussing Trump.

Also, you do not have to use the word 'hate' to show others you hate someone, your other words are sufficient.

I can't and won't say he doesn't get more attention from all sides than he should. That doesn't make him innocent however. My personal opinion is it's not because "Trump!" as much as a reflection of his actions. Remember, he was not an honorable and respectable man before he took office. Some of us saw that.

Again, I don't hate the man, in fact I don't hate anyone. It's a waste of time and energy. There are many people I don't respect or trust that I still like.

[Aerovette]

Anytime, I’ll be here all day long, I’ll even check in on you while I’m doing my Le Mans piece to see if you need any more assistance, I’m heading up to Aldi, do you need a fresh box of Kleenex?

I think you mean Lamaze.

Do you go to Aldi so no one sees you buying Bud Light?

[Onebadcad]

Anytime, I’ll be here all day long, I’ll even check in on you while I’m doing my Le Mans piece to see if you need any more assistance, I’m heading up to Aldi, do you need a fresh box of Kleenex?

When does the LeMans piece hit the interwebby, I will take a gander, a glance, not the male goose thing.

[Taurus]

Your ignorance is bliss. :rofl:

I don't agree with you which makes me ignorant. How very Trump of you.

[Onebadcad]

I can't and won't say he doesn't get more attention from all sides than he should. That doesn't make him innocent however. My personal opinion is it's not because "Trump!" as much as a reflection of his actions. Remember, he was not an honorable and respectable man before he took office. Some of us saw that.

Again, I don't hate the man, in fact I don't hate anyone. It's a waste of time and energy. There are many people I don't respect or trust that I still like.

Not many recent American business titans have favorable public ratings, name any you want and I will take their head off.
Prior to his presidency, please list all criminal accounts against him, thanks.

He was respected enough to be our POTUS while beating she-who-was-already-crowned-king, that speaks volumes, much more than a forum member disliking him for accomplishing what the member's choices could not.

[TheRealBadger]

I think you mean Lamaze.

Do you go to Aldi so no one sees you buying Bud Light?

And more personal attacks from the angry keyboard warrior

[Onebadcad]

I don't agree with you which makes me ignorant. How very Trump of you.

It is grossly unfair and petty to attribute any trait another possesses with Trump, mostly due to you deeming it unfavorable.

If you knew the person enough you would understand, and also know their good traits, and avoid such inanity.

[TheRealBadger]

Not many recent American business titans have favorable public ratings, name any you want and I will take their head off.
Prior to his presidency, please list all criminal accounts against him, thanks.

He was respected enough to be our POTUS while beating she-who-was-already-crowned-king, that speaks volumes, much more than a forum member disliking him for accomplishing what the member's choices could not.

Business titan?

:rofl:

[Onebadcad]

This thread has legs, and allowance of all comments without triple-secret nuclear bans.

Again, thanks for playing.

[Onebadcad]

Business titan?

:rofl:

It reads that way in his book, so it must be true!!

[TheRealBadger]

Please provide us all with any harm that you personally suffered due to Trump keeping both russia and nkorea at bay.
I have searched an cannot find any agreements that did such to the American people.

Thanks for playing.

Who said I had personal harm? I do well under any president. Always have. Always will.

You poor victims though, I’m not sure how you make it through the day.

[Taurus]

Not many recent American business titans have favorable public ratings, name any you want and I will take their head off.
Prior to his presidency, please list all criminal accounts against him, thanks.

He was respected enough to be our POTUS while beating she-who-was-already-crowned-king, that speaks volumes, much more than a forum member disliking him for accomplishing what the member's choices could not.

Did I say he was a criminal? I did not. I said he was not and honest or honorable man before coming to office. You don't need to look past Trump University or paying hush money to keep people including your wife from finding out you're banging porn stars and strippers when you're married or his Trump charitable trust. Those are not the actions of an honorable or honest man are they?

You would never dismiss those actions if it was Obama or Biden.

[cptlo306]

Here is what I struggle with regarding this case specifically. I wonder, in his shoes, what lengths would I go, to obtain, protect, copy, whatever, information that dispelled the things I am being accused of. It's an odd conundrum because he has to break one law, to prove he didn't break another law.

If the below info is accurate, how does that info pertain to what he had previously been accused of?

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1667230724812840960

[Aerovette]

Business titan?

:rofl:

How many skyscrapers have your name on them?

Which hotel is yours?

Is he more of a titan than you? Yep.

[TheRealBadger]

That was a stretch, by design, the rest is irrefutable, which is why you choose not to address.

So, you admit you just completely made it up.

Seems pretty standard.

[Taurus]

It is grossly unfair and petty to attribute any trait another possesses with Trump, mostly due to you deeming it unfavorable.

If you knew the person enough you would understand, and also know their good traits, and avoid such inanity.

I'm sorry, my comment to being called ignorant for not agreeing was a comparison to how Trump turns on anyone that disagrees with him specifically, not the totality of the man. :spdchk:

[Aerovette]

If the below info is accurate, how does that info pertain to what he had previously been accused of?

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1667230724812840960

In reference to the issues raised regarding a potential attack on Iran, they seem pertinent. Not that attacking Iran is a criminal act necessarily, but engaging in war before Biden was not as embraced as it is now.

[UniqueDoug]

I think you mean Lamaze.

Do you go to Aldi so no one sees you buying Bud Light?

They don’t stock Bud Light lol have you ever been to one?

[TheRealBadger]

How many skyscrapers have your name on them?

Which hotel is yours?

Is he more of a titan than you? Yep.

I do more revenue in a month than Trump does in a year.

But you stay on the Titan front. That’s good.

[UniqueDoug]

Congrats on using the most common BS bailout phrase of the worst forum moderator, and biggest ahole, in the history of the world.

Just calling balls and strikes.

[Onebadcad]

They don’t stock Bud Light lol have you ever been to one?

My only trip to aldis was about a month ago, very niche, did not find much of what I needed, the wifey has her favorites there, so it works for her.

I did view the beer section, very unique beers, some i have never seen before.
I am a PBR dood, so they go none of my dollars.

[UniqueDoug]

When does the LeMans piece hit the interwebby, I will take a gander, a glance, not the male goose thing.

Oh probably around six, I’ve taken about five interesting mini stories and am going to wrap them into one, the number 33 wrecked during practice on video, that should be pretty good.

[Taurus]

I do more revenue in a month than Trump does in a year.

But you stay on the Titan front. That’s good.

Holy crap, I'm impressed. What do you do?

[Aerovette]

I do more revenue in a month than Trump does in a year.

But you stay on the Titan front. That’s good.

How many skyscrapers? What hotel? Were the questions.

There are lots of great guitar players, but it's the ones that are famous that we recognize most.

Being a legend to yourself is something I guess.

[TheRealBadger]

Holy crap, I'm impressed. What do you do?
I’m surely no titan. And that is the point.

[Onebadcad]

Just calling balls and strikes.

Yeah, okay with it / you, but do not give any mention of that dood.
So how long have been a forum umpire??

[gs568]

I don't agree with you which makes me ignorant. How very Trump of you.

Thank you. Did you find any evidence that my Mom bought my condo yet?? :rofl:

[TheRealBadger]

How many skyscrapers? What hotel? Were the questions.

There are lots of great guitar players, but it's the ones that are famous that we recognize most.

Being a legend to yourself is something I guess.

:rofl:

You keep believing that.

Man, you are easily manipulated by celebrity.

[UniqueDoug]

I do more revenue in a month than Trump does in a year.

But you stay on the Titan front. That’s good.

Oh snap lol

[Onebadcad]

Holy crap, I'm impressed. What do you do?

He runs Trump's legal fund.

[UniqueDoug]

Holy crap, I'm impressed. What do you do?

If you only knew, and no not telling.

[UniqueDoug]

Yeah, okay with it / you, but do not give any mention of that dood.
So how long have been a forum umpire??

I nominated myself today, eat dick seconded it lol

[Anjdog2003]

Who said I had personal harm? I do well under any president. Always have. Always will.

You poor victims though, I’m not sure how you make it through the day.




Gas before Biden was $3.18 now it's between $4.65-$5.35 for premium which both my cars take. Food has gone up significantly since Biden's been in office. Not counting everything else. Does it affect me NO. But i'am well off and live very comfortably not like a lot of folks. If gas goes higher, the homes go higher, i live in a middle class out here where the average home is well over a million dollars, and food goes higher it won't affect me. But i can't speak for most of America that has to live day by day under a stumbling clueless POTUS that has no business being in office. This country had got weaker and more perverted under his administration. You either can't see it, won't see it, or you believe in it. :yesnod:

[Anjdog2003]

Thank you. Did you find any evidence that my Mom bought my condo yet?? :rofl:





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[GTOguy]

Gas before Biden was $3.18 now it's between $4.65-$5.35 for premium which both my cars take. Food has gone up significantly since Biden's been in office. Not counting everything else. Does it affect me NO. But i'am well off and live very comfortably not like a lot of folks. If gas goes higher, the homes go higher, i live in a middle class out here where the average home is well over a million dollars, and food goes higher it won't affect me. But i can't speak for most of America that has to live day by day under a stumbling clueless POTUS that has no business being in office. This country had got weaker and more perverted under his administration. You either can't see it, won't see it, or you believe in it. :yesnod:

This is my reality as well. I can afford it, but I don't have to like it. How do the average people who live check to check do it?

[Taurus]

Holy crap, 37 charges including violations of the espionage act.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-06-09/trump-indictment-details-espionage-obstruction-charges

[Onebadcad]

Holy crap, 37 charges including violations of the espionage act.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-06-09/trump-indictment-details-espionage-obstruction-charges

Why spend taxpayer money on a trial, just hang him from the Washington Monument, sell tickets and pay-per-view to eliminate the national debt.

[Rodnok1]

This is my reality as well. I can afford it, but I don't have to like it. How do the average people who live check to check do it?

Not being a baller I call tell you it sucks and we don't live check to check.
Cut back on everything, spending quantity down 30% at least. Don't travel as much, projects put on hold, etc. Not going into debt over the cost increases, helps we have no house note nor car notes.
If things hadn't leveled off alot of people would have been in deep shit. I fear alot lived beyond their means regardless as just have to have 10 buck coffee and 75k car ignoring the fact they can't afford it. The pendulum will swing back and if the left is still in office they'll forgive their brain dead spending and stay in office

[cptlo306]

The indictment: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.3.0.pdf


He's toast.

[Anjdog2003]

How do the average people who live check to check do it?




They believe in the Democratic party and don't.

[Aerovette]

They don’t stock Bud Light lol have you ever been to one?

I went to one once. It was like a garage sale for food.

[Onebadcad]

Basically treason.
So if you support this you care more about hating Trump, than loving Our Great Nation, its Constitution, and the rights of all citizens.
If you support this, you endorse the one-party state, which has the foremost objective of destroying our nation.

[Onebadcad]

I will presume the charges are based upon proof confioomed by the special investigator that the classified materials were marketed to a foreign entity,,, right??

[Jughead]

Joey is pleased, he can keep his $10 million+ now

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/434x308/80-giphy_9ae1599b837f16e2e95d51dae9d57575558299d3.gif

[Onebadcad]

Trump spent the tax payers money! All he had to do was turn over what he had, end of! He couldnt do that, as usual. The real question is WHY!

Becasue it was petty, and inconsequential, like pulling the tag of your mattress.

How serious can it be when depends joe in a much lower position STOLE classified documents while a senator, and then was found to have numerous documents in multiple locations without property authority or safe storage, AND LESS THAN NOTHING WILL COME OF IT.

[Jughead]

Gas before Biden was $3.18 now it's between $4.65-$5.35 for premium which both my cars take. Food has gone up significantly since Biden's been in office. Not counting everything else. Does it affect me NO. But i'am well off and live very comfortably not like a lot of folks. If gas goes higher, the homes go higher, i live in a middle class out here where the average home is well over a million dollars, and food goes higher it won't affect me. But i can't speak for most of America that has to live day by day under a stumbling clueless POTUS that has no business being in office. This country had got weaker and more perverted under his administration. You either can't see it, won't see it, or you believe in it. :yesnod:

:iagree:

I'm glad I didn't retire. Don't know how some people are surviving. And it ain't over yet.

[Onebadcad]

STFU.....this sounds so gay face it trumps going to jail. It's not about hating a party or person and hiding behind the constitution. He did most if not all he is being charged with. That's on him and only him....:yesnod:

Watch your mouth punk!!

[Aerovette]

:rofl:

You keep believing that.

Man, you are easily manipulated by celebrity.

No. I'm unimpressed by money actually. More often than not, it turns decent people in to assholes. I should have known you had money from that alone.

[Onebadcad]

So, if they get the right judge, Trump goes to federal prison for life.
Yep, and many in here would be fine with that,,,

[LATB]

It is getting closer...

[Onebadcad]

Stop digging it's over. Pissing in the wind does nothing at this point. He had that shit in bathrooms on stage and a ****ing bathroom, really.

You and peeloser are right, he has always been guilty, proving his innocence is not a pursuit of the courts.
Only his sentencing needs to be decided.
This is good for all of our rights, we have no problem receiving the same processes.

[Taurus]

I will presume the charges are based upon proof confioomed by the special investigator that the classified materials were marketed to a foreign entity,,, right??

I’m guessing more likely that some were destroyed. I doubt he would go as far as to share or sell them.

[Onebadcad]

It is getting closer...

It will begin a day before he is required to report to his USP.

[Onebadcad]

How is he above the law? We can wait.....:waiting:

Please cite precedent, as that is what ALL our indictments are based on, consistency of application to all.

Why has the depend joe's classified document case moved at a slower speed than hunter's laptop and joe's ukraine and romania bribes??

[Onebadcad]

I’m guessing more likely that some were destroyed. I doubt he would go as far as to share or sell them.

Destruction is usually carelessness.
Treason and espionage are ALMOST ALWAYS the action to distribute to a foreign, usually opposition, entity.

[Taurus]

Destruction is usually carelessness.
Treason and espionage are ALMOST ALWAYS the action to distribute to a foreign, usually opposition, entity.

Destroying classified documents is a violation, at least that’s what was reported.

[Onebadcad]

Based on the 37 charges, and their severity, Trump could be arrested today and placed in a federal prison until his court dates.
The rationale would be that the threat to national security is ongoing, due to his multiple sales of classified documents to multiple foreign entities.
This cannot be safeguarded without his solitary confinement through the trail date.

[Onebadcad]

Destroying classified documents is a violation, at least that’s what was reported.

You need to re-read my quote, destruction in one thing, espionage and treason are much different.
hillary destroyed and deleted many more classified documents, one her own without the advisement to the property authorities, everyone on the left was fine with this.

[gs568]

Just saw that Trump is out golfing today.

[cptlo306]

Just saw that Trump is out golfing today.

Got to get in a few rounds before going to prison. :D

[gs568]

Does he still cheat? May as well while he can! :yesnod:

:rofl:

[gs568]

Got to get in a few rounds before going to prison. :D

:rofl:

[Taurus]

You need to re-read my quote, destruction in one thing, espionage and treason are much different.
hillary destroyed and deleted many more classified documents, one her own without the advisement to the property authorities, everyone on the left was fine with this.

Yes, I know. Intentionally destroying classified documents to hide a crime is considered a violation as well. I have no idea if that's part of it though.

[UniqueDoug]

I went to one once. It was like a garage sale for food.

lol funny that's kinda how I used to think, went to one once in GA and was disappointed. It's K's goto store here and I am hooked now, I eat about 5 small meals a day and still only spend about $240 a month.

Boneless skinless thighs for $2.99/pound, roma tomatoes $1/pound, cheap hummas/quac/salsa, great store just bring your own bags and a quarter for the cart! lol

Watch your mouth punk!!

:lol:

[Taurus]

It is getting closer...

It will begin a day before he is required to report to his USP.

Not sure what you're getting at. Are you advocating a violent overthrow of our government because Trump was found guilty of committing a crime?

Say it aint so.

[Anjdog2003]

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[Will]

Probably not a good idea for the prosecutor to make the laughable statement that there is one set of laws in this country that applies to everyone equally.

Unless of course the point is to rub it in.

[69camfrk]

This is nothing more than weaponization of the government. I don't give a damn which side you are on, you all should be concerned. These are the same tactics used by Stalin, Hitler, Mao, et al..... Literally all of us know that previous administrations along with a large portion of the house and senate have enriched themselves off their political positions,(pay to play, bribes, kickbacks, etc.) but yet nothing is ever done but a bunch of bullshitting around. This is the kind of shit that leads to a collapse of a country. We are a banana republic and nothing more. That is all I have to say about it...

[Frankie the Fink]

So much vitriolic BS in this thread its laughable. Biden had classified docs on a greasy garage floor and a Chinese funded think tank that he hid for 16 years. Ginne a break
Wonder how many here even had a clearance. So much celebration of the double standard of justice. Ushering in our new banana republic government

[Onebadcad]

Destroying classified documents is a violation, at least that’s what was reported.

Why was hillary not indicted and prosecuted??

[Onebadcad]

Got to get in a few rounds before going to prison. :D

You are good with him going to federal prison??

[Taurus]

Why was hillary not indicted and prosecuted??

Wish she had been.

[Onebadcad]

Wish she had been.

You are conveniently dismissing the very obvious bias Trump has received, receives daily, and will receive for the remainder of his days.

[cptlo306]

You are good with him going to federal prison??

That was a joke. However, if what is in the indictment is true and he is found guilty, then yes, I'm OK with him going to prison.

Others (Biden, etc.) need to be held accountable too but that doesn't absolve Trump from his actions.

[Onebadcad]

So much vitriolic BS in this thread its laughable. Biden had classified docs on a greasy garage floor and a Chinese funded think tank that he hid for 16 years. Ginne a break
Wonder how many here even had a clearance. So much celebration of the double standard of justice. Ushering in our new banana republic government

Lots of spineless weasels in here, that would object to Trump's treatment if it were a family member.

Trial may be in SoFlo, I need to get on the jury.

[Onebadcad]

And you are conveniently dismissing the facts! :rofl:

Please list the hillary facts

[Taurus]

You are conveniently dismissing the very obvious bias Trump has received, receives daily, and will receive for the remainder of his days.

So let me understand, Biden can do this to Trump but Trump couldn’t do it to Clinton? Which story do you want me to believe?

[Aerovette]

We are going to all need fishing waders if he goes to prison. The streets will be flooded with liberal jizz.

[Aerovette]

Please list the hillary facts

Fact one: She is a Democrat
Fact two: Opposition to her seems to be very accident prone and/or suicidal

[Onebadcad]

That was a joke. However, if what is in the indictment is true and he is found guilty, then yes, I'm OK with him going to prison.

Others (Biden, etc.) need to be held accountable too but that doesn't absolve Trump from his actions.

Thanks, tells me a lot that you feel the investigation and indictments are fair, and based on precedents, with zero political influence, and in no way an attempt to derail his 2024 campaign.

[Onebadcad]

We are going to all need fishing waders if he goes to prison. The streets will be flooded with liberal jizz.

I think we will be a splintered nation if he is convicted.

[Aerovette]

That was a joke. However, if what is in the indictment is true and he is found guilty, then yes, I'm OK with him going to prison.

Others (Biden, etc.) need to be held accountable too but that doesn't absolve Trump from his actions.

Sadly, I can almost hear how this would play out. Trump is found guilty...Democrats declare that our nation has suffered enough and these investigations do nothing to make us a better nation. They will be settled, closed, and swept away.

Probably "for the sake of the children" :Jeff '79:

[UniqueDoug]

So when trump said in 2016 about locking her up for her scandals and emails. What was that?

That was dIfFeReNt!!!

[Anjdog2003]

Yes funny watching trump get his ass handed to him, enjoy biden, dotard. :yesnod:







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[cptlo306]

Thanks, tells me a lot that you feel the investigation and indictments are fair, and based on precedents, with zero political influence, and in no way an attempt to derail his 2024 campaign.

You're putting words in my mouth. Based on the information provided in the indictments, if it is accurate, it is fair. However, there is no question that there is political influence. Should that absolve Trump of his alleged wrongdoing?

[Onebadcad]

You're putting words in my mouth. Based on the information provided in the indictments, if it is accurate, it is fair. However, there is no question that there is political influence. Should that absolve Trump of his alleged wrongdoing?

So, you have a scale for political influence??
Please explain the details, and the allowances to put someone away for the rest of their life.

[TheRealBadger]

Why was hillary not indicted and prosecuted??

Another failed Trump promise

[TheRealBadger]

No. I'm unimpressed by money actually. More often than not, it turns decent people in to assholes. I should have known you had money from that alone.

Oh no, you are more impressed with names on buildings. Team Titans!

:rofl:

[cptlo306]

So, you have a scale for political influence??
Please explain the details, and the allowances to put someone away for the rest of their life.

There is political influence and it is obvious for all to see. It's real, puts a stain on the DOJ, and should be fixed. It's related to this case, obviously, but separate from the substance of the allegations in the Trump indictment. If he committed these crimes, he should be convicted and serve the punishment.

[Aerovette]

Oh no, you are more impressed with names on buildings. Team Titans!

:rofl:

Where did I say that?

[PLRX]

Damn, this one took off. 99% of the time I just read the last 3 newest posts, but this one hooked me.

Simply cooperate and find a different battle to fall on your sword over, maybe one that matters.

Imagine working in the WH with that ADD 78-year-old man. :confused5:

The same POSs that keep all the Trump BS going, with hundreds of pending indictments, are the same people who in 2016 committed crimes 1,000,000X more illegal and more in-depth than Watergate, and yet, NONE have even been placed before a prosecutor for consideration, let alone be served or arrested.

Yeah, keep telling me how fair this is,,,

Yes, and the Republicans do nothing. There are 222 Republican congressmen and 50 Republican senators. That's 272 political elected officials, but we only hear from the same ones: Graham, McConnel, Kennedy, Cruz, and others. If the GOP would have Trump's six, there would have been support for him since 2015.

I still believe the threat to this country is Balack Obozo.

Trump is a simple Narcissistic, Entitled Douchebag. He's admitted to it all, well except for the women part. :rofl: I still do not see any GOP backing on him except for that lip-locking suck-hole Lindsey Graham, Shawn Hannity, and Pillow-Man..

fixed


Now, yesterday I heard Pence's announcement, and this morning I listened to it. We make fun of CumDawg's PM banning people, and a few of you posted asking "Who talks like that?" I had the same question this morning while I was listening to him/Pence. What would be the reason he always let it be known about his marriage; is this guy a fudgepacker? He sounds like his ass is so tight that if you shove a lump of coal in it, you'll have a diamond in 11 minutes.

[Aerovette]

Let's reflect back on what happened to Nelson Mandela

A checkered past
Member of a radical group
Accused of treason
Repeatedly arrested
A Marxist

But above all, he was seen as a martyr and that erased all that happened before.

It's a thin line between criminal Trump and martyr Trump and the persecution could get him over the line. As was said elsewhere, it's easy to look past the tactics of those out to get him until you realize it could be them one day.

[Taurus]

How to avoid a 37 count federal indictment

FBI - ring, hello can I speak with Donald

Trump - this is he

FBI - hi, we understand you may have some documents that we need back.

Trump - yes, I may have some. Did you want to pick them up?

FBI - yea, that would be great. Also, can we look around a little as well to make sure we have them all?

Trump - sure thing.

Indictment avoided.

[Taurus]

The most troubling thing I've read in the transcript of Trump asking "what happens if we just lie to the FBI about the documents". I'm not sure how you can defend that if you're Trump defending himself from obstruction.

[PLRX]

How to avoid a 37 count federal indictment

FBI - ring, hello can I speak with Donald

Trump - this is he

FBI - hi, we understand you may have some documents that we need back.

Trump - yes, I may have some. Did you want to pick them up?

FBI - yea, that would be great. Also, can we look around a little as well to make sure we have them all?

Trump - sure thing.

Indictment avoided.

You can't write it simpler than that.

[Taurus]

Let's reflect back on what happened to Nelson Mandela

A checkered past
Member of a radical group
Accused of treason
Repeatedly arrested
A Marxist

But above all, he was seen as a martyr and that erased all that happened before.

It's a thin line between criminal Trump and martyr Trump and the persecution could get him over the line. As was said elsewhere, it's easy to look past the tactics of those out to get him until you realize it could be them one day.

So now comparing Trump to Mandela. :banghead:

[Taurus]

You can't write it simpler than that.

That's all it would have taken and none of this happens. But that's not how Trump does Trump.

[LATB]

Another failed Trump promise

This is incorrect.

It was not a campaign promise. It was campaign rhetoric that began from the attendees at his rally's. Of course he was going to play along.

When he won the election he specifically said he was against the idea and we do not prosecute political opponents in America.
Obviously that has all changed.

[Aerovette]

How to avoid a 37 count federal indictment

FBI - ring, hello can I speak with Donald

Trump - this is he

FBI - hi, we understand you may have some documents that we need back.

Trump - yes, I may have some. Did you want to pick them up?

FBI - yea, that would be great. Also, can we look around a little as well to make sure we have them all?

Trump - sure thing.

Indictment avoided.

I am 100% certain he was visited by some Dept of WTF group that reviewed what he had and advised securing certain items etc. If they should have said something and didn't, that should be on them as well. Unless of course they purposely DIDN'T so they could bust him later.

[Aerovette]

Locked up in Mar a Lago > Left in the garage of a house that Hunter hung out in.

[cptlo306]

I am 100% certain he was visited by some Dept of WTF group that reviewed what he had and advised securing certain items etc. If they should have said something and didn't, that should be on them as well. Unless of course they purposely DIDN'T so they could bust him later.

Have you read the full indictment?