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https://www.kcrg.com/2023/04/08/woman-raising-money-sue-police-department-excessive-force-during-traffic-stop/
VIDEO AT LINK
~Cop stops woman for suspended license....sounds like for no insurance?
~Cop has history of pulling over same woman multiple times prior to this episode. Calls her by her first name during the encounter. Stalking?
~Woman, once learning she's going to jail, asks and then tries to call someone to get her young kids prior to being arrested
~Cop stops that phone call and attacks woman, while kids wail uncontrollably in the background
~Cop lies to responding officers about what actually happened, saying that the woman attacked him, and that she tried to have the kids attack the cop, too.
~You can see the cop attack the woman first, and while you can't see the kids, they're obviously very young, based on the crying.
Woman raising money to sue police department for excessive force during traffic stop
By Ethan Stein
Published: Apr. 7, 2023 at 8:22 PM CDT
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (KCRG) - Toledo Police Officer Kyle Howe misled fellow law enforcement officers about the events leading to an arrest at a traffic stop, according to a nine-minute video provided to our i9 Investigative Team.
The video shows Shyla Wolf making a phone call to get supervision for her three children in a car. Then, Officer Howe pushes Wolf onto a patrol car while trying to put her in handcuffs before a struggle occurs where the body camera ends up on the ground. The audio shows Officer Howe threatening to use a TASER while at least one of the three children is crying in the car.
Wolf said she believes the officer used excessive force and is raising money on GoFundMe to pay for a civil attorney for a potential lawsuit against the city. According to the fundraiser, she received a fat lip, marks around her neck, bruises on her arms and body aches from the traffic stop.
Wolf faces a handful of charges from the traffic stop on March 30 including neglect or abandonment of a dependent, interference with official acts, failure to provide proof of financial liability, driving with a license under suspension and having a dark window.
The three neglect or abandonment of dependent charges are felonies. According to court documents, the charges occurred because Wolf declined to comply with lawful orders to place her hands behind her back when she was under arrest and she asked her kids to exit the vehicle and record the event. According to the Iowa Department of Transportation, Wolf is barred from driving until February 12, 2026.
According to court documents, Howe arrested and cited Wolf with a variety of different driving offenses before he pulled her over last Thursday. Those documents also show Wolf has faced around eight different driving offenses in the past 10 years.
The “Use of Force” policy for the Toledo Police Department, which our KCRG-TV9 i9 Investigative Team requested, said an officer should only use the amount of force necessary to mitigate an incident, make an arrest or protect themselves or others from harm. It also said the officer shall only use the amount of force necessary to immediately resolve the situation like verbal restraint, less-lethal force and lethal force.
Our KCRG-TV9 i9 Investigative Team asked the Toledo Police Department if they believed the video was a proper use of force, which the department didn’t respond to directly.
Mike Marquess, who serves on a part-time basis as the attorney for the city of Toledo said, said neither the department can’t comment further about the specifics of this case in an email. He also said the city attorney’s office provided her with the information to make a formal complaint to the Toledo Police Department so it can open a formal investigation, but it hasn’t received a complaint as of Friday.
Bill Straton, who is a retired New York Police Officer, said the optics of the video is bad and he would like to see the dashcam video along with more information about the officer and the woman. However, he believes both the officer and the driver made mistakes while responding to the traffic stop.
“She started negotiating with her kids in the car,” Straton said. “In my opinion, she put her children at risk by not obeying the lawful orders. Now on the other side, the police officer could have shown more discretion,”
He also said traffic stops are some of the most dangerous situations for police officers and Wolf not complying and asking her kids to get involved might have triggered the officer because the kids could have started joining the scuffle.
According to the video, Officer Howe said Wolf asked her children to fight the officer to other law enforcement personnel. However, the audio shows Wolf only asking her children to record the event.
Amara Andrews, who is the board president for a group pushing for police reform called the Advocates for Social Justice, cried when our I9 Investigative Team showed her the video. She said the most difficult part of the video was watching the officer lie to the other officers.
“We want to believe that our police officers are here to protect us and to keep our street safe,” Andrews said. “Not lie and contrive stories in order to punish people and justify their bad behavior. I mean that’s the opposite of what you want a police officer to do, so really this is an unfortunate stance of circumstances.”
She said she believed the video shows the officer using an excessive amount of force because Wolf was trying to find supervision for her kids. Andrews said she feels awful for the children, who had to watch their Mom and an officer wrestle to the ground.
“It’s awful,” she said. “And you feel so helpless and I can’t imagine how frightened her kids were. It’s terrible.”
~Cop charged the mother with child abandonment! Bitch, she's trying to get someone to come get her kids to take care of them. She didn't abandon them, you took her away from them without making any arrangements FOR those kids!
I think this cop had a hard on for this woman specifically based on previous contact and simply wanted to harass her. I mean, how often has anyone here ever been stopped by the same cop multiple times? That's not an accident. And all the interactions seem to be traffic related, she's not a murderer or drug dealer.
I support law enforcement. And I’m no defund douche bag.
But I do question the actions of many who carry the badge.
BRUIZER
04-17-2023, 8:06pm
Woman drives with suspended drivers license and most likely no insurance, with her children in the vehicle. The result is it didn't end well for her...as it shouldn't.
Fortunately she didn't take-out somebody else's property or worse.
Zero sympathy for morons who intentionally break the law.
Edit: gofundme! :Jeff '79: Any decent lawyer would take the case pro bono. IF she had an actual case.
Louie Detroit
04-17-2023, 8:10pm
Woman drives with suspended drivers license and most likely no insurance, with her children in the vehicle. The result is it didn't end well for her...as it shouldn't.
Fortunately she didn't take-out somebody else's property or worse.
Zero sympathy for morons who intentionally break the law.
I agree, bitch brought it on herself, way too much time is spent whining about criminals and their hurt fee-fees in this country.
Woman drives with suspended drivers license and most likely no insurance, with her children in the vehicle. The result is it didn't end well for her...as it shouldn't.
Fortunately she didn't take-out somebody else's property or worse.
Zero sympathy for morons who intentionally break the law.
Edit: gofundme! :Jeff '79: Any decent lawyer would take the case pro bono. IF she had an actual case.
He definitely had a right to arrest her. I question whether he was stalking her, first, and then question his judgement. OK, he's going to arrest the woman, but since there were little kids involved, he could/should have allowed her to complete the phone call and have somebody get the kids. But he couldn't do that, his ego wouldn't let him. He even says so. HE is in charge of this stop, not her.
She got out of the car, she acknowledged that OK, she's going to go to jail, and her request to simply get someone to take the kids seems reasonable to me, vs. what actually happened.
So what happened instead? Kids get carted off to CPS custody? Nope, no trauma is going to be inflicted there, no sir. That also seems like a waste of resources. All those cops, trying to calm the terrorized kids, the overworked CPS worker who now has to deal with 3 more kids and all the paperwork?
Bottom line, the proximate cause of this incident is the woman driving without a license. Entirely her fault. NOT the fault of her kids, who had no choice, and the cop should have been sensitive to those kids.
JRD77VET
04-17-2023, 8:38pm
Most police are good folks but the bad power tripping assholes get all the press.
Woman drives with suspended drivers license and most likely no insurance, with her children in the vehicle. The result is it didn't end well for her...as it shouldn't.
Fortunately she didn't take-out somebody else's property or worse.
Zero sympathy for morons who intentionally break the law.
Edit: gofundme! :Jeff '79: Any decent lawyer would take the case pro bono. IF she had an actual case.
I used to be just as hard core about the no D.L. and no insurance thing. I mean, if we have to have that, everyone else should, too, right?
I mellowed just a bit after hearing a guy who worked for me tell me about his situation. This is a guy with a kid and wife, modest means. He got sucked into an endless spiral of traffic tickets and the at the time Texas Financial Responsibility fines stacked on top of the tickets. So he's paycheck to paycheck, gets a ticket he can't pay, then gets a $ 1,000 surcharge on top of that that he also can't pay, and from then on, he's driving without a license. He's in a financial hole a paycheck to paycheck guy can't ever dig out from.
Guy said that he'd get pulled over every few years, and he'd just given up, he'd sit the tickets out in jail, vs. paying more fines he couldn't pay. The problem for him and others, though, is, even though he sat in jail to atone for his traffic tickets, the $ 1,000 a pop financial responsibility state mandated surcharges can't be discharged by serving time, can't be discharged by doing community service.....pay up, or that's it, you'll never drive legally again. Guy was somewhat flaky, but otherwise an OK worker, not otherwise a criminal.
Texas has subsequently ended that surcharge fine program, but it wasn't retroactive, so people like the guy who worked for me....he STILL can't get a license, unless he suddenly came into some kind of financial windfall.
People here have to drive to survive, to work. It's not like living in NYC where a car isn't actually necessary. So it's not exactly as black and white as I used to think.
Steve_R
04-17-2023, 9:15pm
Most police are good folks but the bad power tripping assholes get all the press.
Most people are good folks but the bad ones get all the press. Nothing new with that.
Most people are good folks but the bad ones get all the press. Nothing new with that.
Must be why Yadkin gets so much attention.
Millenium Vette
04-17-2023, 9:45pm
Woman drives with suspended drivers license and most likely no insurance, with her children in the vehicle. The result is it didn't end well for her...as it shouldn't.
Fortunately she didn't take-out somebody else's property or worse.
Zero sympathy for morons who intentionally break the law.
Edit: gofundme! :Jeff '79: Any decent lawyer would take the case pro bono. IF she had an actual case.
No, most lawyers wouldn't take it pro bono even if she has a case.
What could get the cop in trouble is that he lied about her and her kids to the other officers who came on scene.
Must be why Yadkin gets so much attention.
Stop being such a ****. :spdchk:
I used to be just as hard core about the no D.L. and no insurance thing. I mean, if we have to have that, everyone else should, too, right?
I mellowed just a bit after hearing a guy who worked for me tell me about his situation. This is a guy with a kid and wife, modest means. He got sucked into an endless spiral of traffic tickets and the at the time Texas Financial Responsibility fines stacked on top of the tickets. So he's paycheck to paycheck, gets a ticket he can't pay, then gets a $ 1,000 surcharge on top of that that he also can't pay, and from then on, he's driving without a license. He's in a financial hole a paycheck to paycheck guy can't ever dig out from.
Guy said that he'd get pulled over every few years, and he'd just given up, he'd sit the tickets out in jail, vs. paying more fines he couldn't pay. The problem for him and others, though, is, even though he sat in jail to atone for his traffic tickets, the $ 1,000 a pop financial responsibility state mandated surcharges can't be discharged by serving time, can't be discharged by doing community service.....pay up, or that's it, you'll never drive legally again. Guy was somewhat flaky, but otherwise an OK worker, not otherwise a criminal.
Texas has subsequently ended that surcharge fine program, but it wasn't retroactive, so people like the guy who worked for me....he STILL can't get a license, unless he suddenly came into some kind of financial windfall.
People here have to drive to survive, to work. It's not like living in NYC where a car isn't actually necessary. So it's not exactly as black and white as I used to think.
That's a tragic story. Almost as if the state is making him into a criminal. I wonder what state he could move to and get a license there. :(
That's a tragic story. Almost as if the state is making him into a criminal. I wonder what state he could move to and get a license there. :(
Well, he doesn't have money to pay a few thousand dollars of traffic related fines, I assume he doesn't have the money to move his family to another state. Plus, I think the states all coordinate, so if you're suspended in one state, I think the other states all blackball you so you can't just start fresh somewhere else.
I used to be just as hard core about the no D.L. and no insurance thing. I mean, if we have to have that, everyone else should, too, right?
I mellowed just a bit after hearing a guy who worked for me tell me about his situation. This is a guy with a kid and wife, modest means. He got sucked into an endless spiral of traffic tickets and the at the time Texas Financial Responsibility fines stacked on top of the tickets. So he's paycheck to paycheck, gets a ticket he can't pay, then gets a $ 1,000 surcharge on top of that that he also can't pay, and from then on, he's driving without a license. He's in a financial hole a paycheck to paycheck guy can't ever dig out from.
Guy said that he'd get pulled over every few years, and he'd just given up, he'd sit the tickets out in jail, vs. paying more fines he couldn't pay. The problem for him and others, though, is, even though he sat in jail to atone for his traffic tickets, the $ 1,000 a pop financial responsibility state mandated surcharges can't be discharged by serving time, can't be discharged by doing community service.....pay up, or that's it, you'll never drive legally again. Guy was somewhat flaky, but otherwise an OK worker, not otherwise a criminal.
Texas has subsequently ended that surcharge fine program, but it wasn't retroactive, so people like the guy who worked for me....he STILL can't get a license, unless he suddenly came into some kind of financial windfall.
People here have to drive to survive, to work. It's not like living in NYC where a car isn't actually necessary. So it's not exactly as black and white as I used to think.
While I feel some sympathy for your guy what about all the rest who pay for their insurance AND HIS? Here in FL the uninsured motorist part of our car insurance accounts for nearly HALF my bill.
In NH , where car insurance is not required, that part was around 15%.
WE pay for his poor life choices.
Mike Mercury
04-18-2023, 9:50am
Cop has history of pulling over same woman multiple times prior to this episode. Calls her by her first name during the encounter. Stalking?
non CNN version:
Woman ignores the laws flagrantly, gets pulled over many times due to her past history. No one to blame but herself.
:)
Onebadcad
04-18-2023, 9:55am
Most, very high percentage, of LEOs are good.
Some bad apples as with all professions.
Much higher percent of aholes and felons in education and politics.
I am good with all LEOs, except for the ones who take issue with my MPHS.
While I feel some sympathy for your guy what about all the rest who pay for their insurance AND HIS? Here in FL the uninsured motorist part of our car insurance accounts for nearly HALF my bill.
In NH , where car insurance is not required, that part was around 15%.
WE pay for his poor life choices.
Honestly, I don't know if he carried car insurance or not. The car was registered in the wife's name, so a license plate hit wouldn't come up with the husband with no license. Maybe they had insurance on it? Texas requires insurance to renew the license plate, so they had to have insurance on it at least for a while, each year. Still, insurance coverage on the vehicle is probably not going to cover an unlicensed driver in the household, so even if the car has insurance, if he had a wreck, it would be just as if there wasn't insurance at all.
I know someone else that has a young adult daughter. The car they bought for her to go to college has insurance on it, but it doesn't cover the daughter who is driving it, so a cop running the plate will see the car has insurance, but effectively, the daughter is uninsured when driving it. They do this because they can't afford the cost of insuring the daughter as a listed driver. This kind of thing is a LOT more common than you might think.
Daughter got hit, car totalled, but since the accident was the other person's fault, no one delved into whether the daughter herself was insured on the car.
Luckily, the other driver did have insurance which covered the daughter's medical and totaled car, because if not, they would have been SOL.
Onebadcad
04-18-2023, 10:01am
While I feel some sympathy for your guy what about all the rest who pay for their insurance AND HIS? Here in FL the uninsured motorist part of our car insurance accounts for nearly HALF my bill.
In NH , where car insurance is not required, that part was around 15%.
WE pay for his poor life choices.
FL does a shitty job of verifying auto insurance coverages upon registration renewals.
Then again, I think the freeshitgrabbers has insurance at time of renewal, and then fail to pay the next premium due.
non CNN version:
Woman ignores the laws flagrantly, gets pulled over many times due to her past history. No one to blame but herself.
:)
True, but how many people do you know who have been pulled over repeatedly, by the same officer? I can't say I have ever heard of that happening to anyone I know. I mean, what are the odds? Same guy repeatedly pulling over the same woman?
No questions about that? If the same guy was stopping me over and over, I'd have some questions.
Edit:
FWIW, I've been on the opposite side of that. Had a local cop help my mom, then, many months later, when she died and the hospice nurse called police (a home death requires a cop to show up to 'investigate' even though everyone knows up front it's a natural causes death). Cop shows up in one of my darkest, grief stricken moments. Has mask on, but looks familiar. He's the guy who helped my mom way earlier. He had been in my living room talking to Mom and me after helping her. He heard the call over the radio, which was dispatched to another officer, recognized mom's name and my address, and told the guy it was dispatched to that he would take the call, since he knew us, even though his shift was about over. Guy was able to recount the facts of the first encounter flawlessly, and what mom had told me about him at the time, that was all true, too. Wife was a teacher, etc.
So it wasn't an accident, the cop specifically took what must be a difficult call so that I had a cop I already knew sitting in my home going over things with the nurse while I'm alternatively bawling and shell shocked. I still, to this day, appreciate his kindness, and that interaction really makes me think highly of my local cops.
Point of that story is, it wasn't an accident I saw the same cop twice, and my town is a lot smaller than Toledo, Ohio. I don't think it was an accident that the cop in our story kept pulling over the same woman. I think it was targeted, with purpose, and not the same purpose the cop who helped my family had.
Onebadcad
04-18-2023, 10:05am
Also, The $10K No-Fault Coverage in FL is BULLSHIT.
Know a lady, was parked at light, dood on a bicycle ran into her front quarter, then rolled across the hood, he was cited at scene for failure to ride safely, got hostile with LEO so he spent the night in jail.
Two months later her insurance company paid him the $10K for his medical bills--he was not transported to a hospital at time of accident, from a doctor and chiro guy.
After receiving the $10K his lawyer sued the lady, her insurance, the city and The DOT for $500+K--not sure if it ever got into a courtroom.
DJ_Critterus
04-18-2023, 10:15am
Most police are good folks but the bad power tripping assholes get all the press.
and admin/mod status on car forums :yesnod:
GTOguy
04-18-2023, 10:23am
Must be why Yadkin gets so much attention.
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I used to be just as hard core about the no D.L. and no insurance thing. I mean, if we have to have that, everyone else should, too, right?
I mellowed just a bit after hearing a guy who worked for me tell me about his situation. This is a guy with a kid and wife, modest means. He got sucked into an endless spiral of traffic tickets and the at the time Texas Financial Responsibility fines stacked on top of the tickets. So he's paycheck to paycheck, gets a ticket he can't pay, then gets a $ 1,000 surcharge on top of that that he also can't pay, and from then on, he's driving without a license. He's in a financial hole a paycheck to paycheck guy can't ever dig out from.
Guy said that he'd get pulled over every few years, and he'd just given up, he'd sit the tickets out in jail, vs. paying more fines he couldn't pay. The problem for him and others, though, is, even though he sat in jail to atone for his traffic tickets, the $ 1,000 a pop financial responsibility state mandated surcharges can't be discharged by serving time, can't be discharged by doing community service.....pay up, or that's it, you'll never drive legally again. Guy was somewhat flaky, but otherwise an OK worker, not otherwise a criminal.
Texas has subsequently ended that surcharge fine program, but it wasn't retroactive, so people like the guy who worked for me....he STILL can't get a license, unless he suddenly came into some kind of financial windfall.
People here have to drive to survive, to work. It's not like living in NYC where a car isn't actually necessary. So it's not exactly as black and white as I used to think.
I've heard this same sob story over, and over, and over again. How does one get "sucked into an endless spiral of traffic tickets"? The few people I know who have gotten many traffic tickets, basically drive like shit, and/or go out drinking regularly and always drive themselves home from the bars they frequent.
Obviously the lady in the video drives like shit, and knows she has a suspended license. AT VERY LEAST, when she got pulled over, she should have been nice and extremely cooperative, but no. She decides to be resistive and argumentative. I think the cop was probably rougher on her than he needed to be, but this chick brought it all on herself. :yesnod:
RedLS1GTO
04-18-2023, 11:41am
He got sucked into an endless spiral of traffic tickets...
You mean he repeatedly couldn't follow traffic laws? :skep:
DJ_Critterus
04-18-2023, 12:26pm
Bill, what was the law for unpaid tickets. When i was at Ft. In-Da-Hood, I thought you had two weeks to pay the ticket or there was an automatic bench warrant put out for your arrest. Is that still the case?
Bill, what was the law for unpaid tickets. When i was at Ft. In-Da-Hood, I thought you had two weeks to pay the ticket or there was an automatic bench warrant put out for your arrest. Is that still the case?
Thankfully, I haven't gotten a ticket in quite a while, so I'm not fresh, but typically, you get a ticket, it's got a court date on the ticket. You can pay the ticket before the court date, you can, if eligible, take defensive driving, pay the Department of Public Safety for a certified copy of your driving record, AND pay a "court fee," then submit all that to the court prior to the court date and take care of the ticket that way. By the time you pay for a defensive driving class, pay the state for the driving record, which any court could view for nothing (money grab/punishment), then pay a fee to the court, it's cost you significant money and time. You do save higher insurance rates though, so it's a popular option.
If you don't do any of that, you have to take time from work to show up in court. Plead not guilty, and you have to show up again, another day, taking time off of work AGAIN to fight. Or you can show up, plead guilty, and then you're expected to pay in full right there, plus added court fees. You can make a partial payment, with an agreed upon payment schedule, but if you don't pay those payments on time....boom, you're getting a warrant and you're suspended.
It's a system that punishes the poor, who are less likely to be able to cough up the money to just make it all go away, or hire a lawyer to fight, or even to take time off of work to fight themselves.
When i was young, I got a speeding ticket every few years and just took the defensive driving course option. The last 4 tickets I got, a couple decades ago, I decided I was through paying, and fought them all. First one was via attorney, last 3 I did myself. None went to jury trial, which is what I demanded; rather, they were all dismissed.
Courts triage the cases, they don't have enough juries, typically, so they go after the people with multiple tickets, AKA, more money to collect. I had the luxury of taking off work to go to court twice for each one, one time, the judge reset the case, so that's 3 trips for one ticket, which again, was dismissed without me ever seeing a jury. Still, the process IS the punishment. And if you can't pay, the punishment keeps getting more severe.
Aerovette
04-18-2023, 12:59pm
There is another option. A deferred adjudication. Request a deferment, pay a fine plus court costs, don't get a ticket for 6 months and it goes away. Sometimes you do have to take defensive driving classes too.
I've done it many times.
Get another ticket and you'll be found guilty of BOTH violations.
There is another option. A deferred adjudication. Request a deferment, pay a fine plus court costs, don't get a ticket for 6 months and it goes away. Sometimes you do have to take defensive driving classes too.
I've done it many times.
Get another ticket and you'll be found guilty of BOTH violations.
Yes, I actually had to do that one time. My speed was so excessive I had to talk to the prosecutor. Deferred adjudication is just paying the ticket with extra steps, similar to taking defensive driving. You're still paying for the ticket, but you had to take time off of work to show up in court.
My one and only deferred adjudication settled ticket was in a small suburb, in night court, so at least I didn't miss time from work.
As I got older, I go out of my way not to give any reason to get stopped. Dad gave me good advice.....drive in the middle lane, blend, don't stick out don't be the fastest guy, and don't have anything wrong with the car. Check lights often, make sure stickers are good, nothing at all around license plate, cracked windshield gets immediately replaced, etc. In short, be beige.
Louie Detroit
04-18-2023, 1:09pm
I can’t believe gullible dipshits have donated over $6500 to this non-driving husband-less broodmare. What they need to setup for her is comprehensive driving lessons or get her a bus schedule because currently she doesn’t pack the gear to operate a motor vehicle.
1. Womas has a LENGTHY history of traffic violations.
2. Cop recognized woman because of her lengthy history of traffic violations.
3. Woman has a warrant for her arrest.
4. Cop knows about the warrant so he stops her.
5. Woman was told to end the call...she didn't.
6. Cop arrests woman by initially grabbing her arm...perfectly acceptable.
7. Woman deserved everything she got.
8. No ****s given.
Louie Detroit
04-18-2023, 1:43pm
1. Womas has a LENGTHY history of traffic violations.
2. Cop recognized woman because of her lengthy history of traffic violations.
3. Woman has a warrant for her arrest.
4. Cop knows about the warrant so he stops her.
5. Woman was told to end the call...she didn't.
6. Cop arrests woman by initially grabbing her arm...perfectly acceptable.
7. Woman deserved everything she got.
8. No ****s given.
Point #3 can’t be true because her sister on the gofundme page says the warrant was taken care of a month ago, she’s obviously just another of the seemingly endless parade of innocent victims caught up in the nefarious schemes of the cops and incompetent justice system.
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