View Full Version : Lesson learned, don't yell at the police
Normally I have a great deal of respect for police and support them anyway I can. I truly appreciate the work they do.
Having said that, while on my bike ride today I had an encounter that made me question that............ for a moment or two. I was riding down a fairly quiet road and was approaching a curve and coming at me was one of those big Ford police pickups definitely speeding in a 25 mph zone. Long story short, he cut the corner really close and basically ran me up on the curb and into the drive strip. As he passed I let him know my feelings in a rather loud and demonstrative manner. He whipped around and headed back towards me, I assumed to see if I was OK. Instead, this rookie looking cop in street clothes jumped out and threatens me with a ticket and confiscation of my bike on the spot, on what grounds I don't know.
I told him if he felt that strongly about it it he should call over an on duty supervisor and we'll all talk about it. He didn't seem too interested in doing that and started making more threats so I just rode off. I'm 65 and don't have the time or temperament for such bravado on his part. He was clearly wrong, I was in a bike lane and he was not watching what he was doing.
Guess I'll need to watch my back for a while or pick a different route. :D
Frankie the Fink
03-19-2023, 4:23pm
In my 72 trips around the sun, I've only had two bad cop experiences and many exemplary ones. Maybe the guy just had a bad day. Being an LEO is a sh!t job in today's world so I'd say give him a one time pass....I wouldn't be a cop right now for love nor money.
I've made ten less trips than Frank around the sun, but I'm hopeful. Like Frank, I've had one or two negative experiences with the police, once as a teen, and once in my 20's. I was respectful, but in the wrong. I have nothing but respect for police who are underpaid, dis-respected, villanised, in harm's way, and on the verge of losing their pension and being imprisoned or financially ruined on a daily basis. No Thank You.
Torqaholic
03-19-2023, 5:13pm
I think most cops are fine people. Used to wave at them to let them know my appreciation for the work they do but I discontinued that practice. There's no benefit to it for me, only the possible hazard of them misinterpreting my action. People see what they want (or expect) to see and if the cop happens to be a power tripping asshole my intentions won't mean diddly, so screw that noise.
I agree, never really had a bad experience until today. Must of caught him on an off day I suppose. In reality, I wouldn't want his job either.
02. N.W.A - F _ _ _ tha Police - YouTube
Geto Boys - Gota Let Your Nuts Hang - YouTube
Cop probably didn't appreciate you blasting this from your in bike stereo.
Frankie the Fink
03-19-2023, 5:34pm
I think most cops are fine people. Used to wave at them to let them know my appreciation for the work they do but I discontinued that practice. There's no benefit to it for me, only the possible hazard of them misinterpreting my action. People see what they want (or expect) to see and if the cop happens to be a power tripping asshole my intentions won't mean diddly, so screw that noise.
Four local cops were eating in my favorite Italian restaurant one afternoon where I am well known. Upon leaving I cornered my usual waitress and quietly paid their dinner bill. She told me on my next visit they were shocked as hell and had never had that happen before.
slewfoot
03-19-2023, 6:20pm
He knows what he did.
My wife is taking notice on me for being less tolerant claiming I am being nasty. Thing is she is very non confrontational (except with me).
Yesterday, we went to the local grocery store. I drive across the front of the store, make a turn to a parking spot.
I stop to allow a lady from the opposite side to pushes her now empty cart in front of me while I wait. Stupid bitch left it right in the space I was turning into.
So I said something
Maybe your spandex shorts and bedpan on your head intimidated him.
TheRealBadger
03-19-2023, 6:24pm
Most cops are like most people - great. Some are not.
Why would you let that slide? At the minimum it’s a coaching moment for a young officer. At worst you are getting a shithead a heat check.
He knows what he did.
Racial profiling because the OP is black?
slewfoot
03-19-2023, 6:33pm
:D
Maybe your spandex shorts and bedpan on your head intimidated him.
Me wearing spandex would a good enough reason to be arrested. :D
Not for me, nor do I ride with folks that wear it.
Racial profiling because the OP is black?
Do they profile 65 year old white Dutch dudes?
Rodnok1
03-19-2023, 9:47pm
Him turning around and giving me shit would have ended badly for him and no way I'd controlled myself let alone my mouth. He'd heard words make truckers piss themselves. I don't give 2 ****s if he's off duty cop so that shit would have just added to the who gives a **** list.
He was a ****ing dick and turning around was a double dick move and he'd been treated as such.
You did get his name and badge number since he wanted to play the I'm a cop card right. A visit to his precinct to see the boss straighten shit right put.
Torqaholic
03-19-2023, 10:41pm
...Yesterday, we went to the local grocery store. I drive across the front of the store, make a turn to a parking spot.
I stop to allow a lady from the opposite side to pushes her now empty cart in front of me while I wait. Stupid bitch left it right in the space I was turning into.
So I said something
Reminds me of the time I took the heavily pregnant wife shopping in a snowstorm. Saw a guy getting ready to leave who was parked close to the store so I waited, he took his sweet ass time but I was patient. As he finally left some skank came whipping in and took the spot. Told her I was waiting for the spot and why, her reply was basically "tough shit".
Sure hope she could see on the way home, it was snowing terribly... And no doubt the gun grease coating her wiper blades was doing her no favors either. Sometimes karma needs a helping hand :D
ZipZap
03-20-2023, 12:21am
I yelled sooey at a cop back in 1974. He followed me home and told my folks:rofl:
I don't remember this one because I was so young, but my mom always told me the story of our family getting pulled over for something and when the officer got to the driver's side window to talk to my dad, my sister and I were yelling "what's a penny made out of?":rofl:
I've had a couple dick encounters, but 90%+ positive. The worst was actually at a sober checkpoint late at night after having traveled home across country (LAX/IAD) after a full day working and I was just annoyed at being stopped. "Where are you coming from?" Airport. "Where are you going?" Home. "Where is home" Am I being detained? It went downhill from there, with one Fairfax cop throwing their educational flyer at me through the window.
Him turning around and giving me shit would have ended badly for him and no way I'd controlled myself let alone my mouth. He'd heard words make truckers piss themselves. I don't give 2 ****s if he's off duty cop so that shit would have just added to the who gives a **** list.
He was a ****ing dick and turning around was a double dick move and he'd been treated as such.
You did get his name and badge number since he wanted to play the I'm a cop card right. A visit to his precinct to see the boss straighten shit right put.
Yes, they probably would arrest OP right there at the police station, for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, maybe fleeing and eluding, too. You don't think cops don't stick together and retaliate? Does OP have the whole thing on video? No?
Good luck with that.
DJ_Critterus
03-20-2023, 6:24am
I agree, never really had a bad experience until today. Must of caught him on an off day I suppose. In reality, I wouldn't want his job either.
You didn't get a pic of the plate, truck number, or even his name and badge number in case he tries to retaliate? Sorry dude, but this is one time where you should have let your inner Karen out and demanded to see an on duty supervisor.
You didn't get a pic of the plate, truck number, or even his name and badge number in case he tries to retaliate? Sorry dude, but this is one time where you should have let your inner Karen out and demanded to see an on duty supervisor.
The cop isn't required to call a supervisor for OP, especially if the cop is off duty, just tooling around in his taxpayer funded ride. And let's say OP called 9-1-1 to report the incident and demanded a supervisor show up. How do you think that would go? Without video, backup officers are going to back the play of their guy, it's a team sport, and you are on the wrong team.
Giraffe (He/Him)
03-20-2023, 6:54am
Cops SUCK
Not really. I can’t image doing that job in 2023.
Frankie the Fink
03-20-2023, 7:11am
Him turning around and giving me shit would have ended badly for him and no way I'd controlled myself let alone my mouth. He'd heard words make truckers piss themselves. I don't give 2 ****s if he's off duty cop so that shit would have just added to the who gives a **** list.
He was a ****ing dick and turning around was a double dick move and he'd been treated as such.
You did get his name and badge number since he wanted to play the I'm a cop card right. A visit to his precinct to see the boss straighten shit right put.
Prob check your health insurance for some anger management classes, there is more going on here than some cop smart-talking.
You didn't get a pic of the plate, truck number, or even his name and badge number in case he tries to retaliate? Sorry dude, but this is one time where you should have let your inner Karen out and demanded to see an on duty supervisor.
I have his unit number if needed.
DJ_Critterus
03-20-2023, 8:18am
The cop isn't required to call a supervisor for OP, especially if the cop is off duty, just tooling around in his taxpayer funded ride. And let's say OP called 9-1-1 to report the incident and demanded a supervisor show up. How do you think that would go? Without video, backup officers are going to back the play of their guy, it's a team sport, and you are on the wrong team.
That's true. OP, get yourself a dash cam. Mine has saved me a time or two.
erickpl
03-20-2023, 8:34am
If you're on a bicycle in the bike lane, get a Cycliq bike light/camera. You can put on front and back to record interactions like this.
Giraffe (He/Him)
03-20-2023, 8:45am
If the OP had a hair on his ass he’d of told the cop; “Sup Fife! Smell that? That’s bacon. I smell bacon! By the way I think I just saw Jamal Giantdick leaving your house.”
If the OP had a hair on his ass he’d of told the cop; “Sup Fife! Smell that? That’s bacon. I smell bacon! By the way I think I just saw Jamal Giantdick leaving your house.”
Here's how that probably would have gone:
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Giraffe (He/Him)
03-20-2023, 8:57am
Here's how that probably would have gone:
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Yeah but think of the MILLIONS you’d make. What’s a little clubbing when you stand to be a multimillionaire! Seals get clubbed all the time and they don’t see any financial reward whatsoever.
Rodnok1
03-20-2023, 9:05am
Prob check your health insurance for some anger management classes, there is more going on here than some cop smart-talking.
Why... If he started some shit and then came back around to keep at it the appropriate response is to get in his face.
I'm actually a calm person, however dickweeds like this need to be dealt with.
It's not like I'm like this guy asking do you even lift bro...
Blademaker
03-20-2023, 9:29am
I'm usually polite and respectful when dealing with LEO's, as I have talked my way IN to more jails than OUT of jail.
That being said, once they start coming across as badge heavy pricks, I have 0 problem getting locked up again. I had a railroad detective start harassing us before we sold the business.....he got knocked on his ass by a warehouse door that was flung open by yours truly. I muttered an excuse me...He came up ready to fight, and I was more than willing to accommodate him and whip his ass, until my brother called the City Police. His partner admitted that he was out of line, and hustled him outta there.
They never came back.
Nowadays......I'll be as polite as I'm allowed to be, and generally avoid the POlice, but if they act like assholes, game on.
Why... If he started some shit and then came back around to keep at it the appropriate response is to get in his face.
I'm actually a calm person, however dickweeds like this need to be dealt with.
It's not like I'm like this guy asking do you even lift bro...
Let's look at the facts, as given by OP. Cop is speeding around a blind corner, overshoots his lane and causes OP to crash his bike trying not to get hit. Now, did OP overreact due to being startled? Maybe. Nevertheless, the officer was in the wrong, driving recklessly.
Officer doubles down by turning around not to check on OP's well being, or to apologize, but to threaten an arrest and escalate the situation. There's no video, apparently, so it's a he said/she said situation, and it's just the OP and the cop there. The cop has ALREADY demonstrated he's willing to lie about the basic facts, i.e. about who is wrong in the situation. Then the cop doubled down with a threat of arrest. What else do you think that cop would be willing to do in that situation if you didn't deescalate like OP did? Contempt of cop is a real thing, and I can see you getting beaten and arrested if you did indeed "get in his face." Why not? Guy already lied about what happened, you don't think he'll take it as far as he wants to go?
Without video proof, it's an unwinnable situation; OP did the right thing by deescalating and riding off into the sunset. Without video, I'd be hesitant to even file a complaint, for fear of retaliation. File a complaint, and now that unstable cop and all his buddies know where you live, probably what cars you own, etc.
Giraffe (He/Him)
03-20-2023, 9:32am
Fuzz gives me any lip I’ll carve him up like a ****in’ butterball turkey.
Don't Talk to the Police - YouTube
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police! - YouTube
Police TRAP YOU with Small Talk (How to Avoid It) - YouTube
ThePirate
03-20-2023, 10:00am
Let him who has never done anything wrong in his life cast the first stone.
RECORD Lawsuit For Ridiculous Arrest - $8.5 MILLION! - YouTube
Imagine how this would have gone if there was no video of the incident.
And here's almost the EXACT same situation as the OP. Officer almost hits this guy, then they arrest this guy for contempt of cop:
Unlawful Arrest After Officer Almost Causes An Accident - Then Demands ID - YouTube
And they did all this when they were on video, and KNEW they were on video. Imagine how much worse it might have gone without the video. As is, they arrested a completely innocent guy.
Onebadcad
03-20-2023, 12:19pm
The po-po learned years ago not to mess with me.
I can drive 29 mph right through the center of town and not get pulled over,,,
And, slightly off subject, but here's the police arresting an old lady for not paying a $ 77 city trash bill:
'Oh Lord!': 82-Year-Old Alabama Woman Locked Up for Not Paying $77 Trash Bill (BODYCAM) - YouTube
The kind of people who would do this to an old lady, from the cops to the judge that ordered the arrest....what else are they capable of? What would be off limits to these kind of folks? What orders or actions would they actually refuse, if any?
Lady sitting in legally parked car has car taken from her:
Cops Take Woman's Car - Gets Sued, But "Fully Supports Officer's Actions" - YouTube
dvarapala
03-20-2023, 1:36pm
I yelled sooey at a cop back in 1974. He followed me home and told my folks:rofl:
One day many years ago I was standing outside with a few co-workers (they were smoking, I was not). A couple of police officres with a K9 rolled up and were walking the dog through the vacant lot next to our building. One of the smokers suddenly yelled out "****IN' PIGS!!!!" at the top of his lungs. :willy:
The rest of us scattered and ducked back inside the building. Thankfully the cops ignored the lunatic. :leaving:
Let him who has never done anything wrong in his life cast the first stone.
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