Missed it by thaaaat much!

[lspencer534]

Hawaii became a State on 8-21-59. He was born on 8-4-61. Damn.

[island14]

:rofl:

[TabuIsMe]

:lol:

[G8rDMD]

I know--I googled it when I saw the DOB. Shucks!

[Sea Six]

Wouldn't have mattered. HI was a U.S. territory since 1898. Anyone born there would be a U.S. citizen, just as John McCain. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, and since it was U. S. territory at the time, he is an American Citizen.

[Meeko87]

So are the "birthers" called "after birthers" now?

[Hoog]

Hawaii isn't a state, it's really an occupied sovereign nation. :yesnod:

[NeedSpeed]

It's a conspiracy, they knew his parents were gonna be screwing a lot so they hurried up and made it a state so he could be born.

[syf350]

if it was so easy to produce, why was years and millions spent keeping it from being produced?

me thinks somethings amiss.

[Bucwheat]

experts still say it's a fake

[Dan-O]

So are the "birthers" called "after birthers" now?


Uh, NO.......

YouTube - Proof Obama's 4/27/11 "Long Form Certificate of Birth" is Forged!

And on TOP of it all, it lists his Father as a Kenyan citizen, thus AT LEAST conferring DUAL CITIZENSHIP on little Barry, rendering him INELIGIBLE to hold the office he now occupies.

The "Birthers" were STILL right and unless you believe the lamestream media - VINDICATED.

[NeedSpeed]

I just opened it in AI, it's flat.

Guess they fixed it. :leaving:

[lspencer534]

Uh, NO.......

YouTube - Proof Obama's 4/27/11 "Long Form Certificate of Birth" is Forged! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJfdKClbH4)

And on TOP of it all, it lists his Father as a Kenyan citizen, thus AT LEAST conferring DUAL CITIZENSHIP on little Barry, rendering him INELIGIBLE to hold the office he now occupies.

The "Birthers" were STILL right and unless you believe the lamestream media - VINDICATED.

Interesting.

[NeedSpeed]

Interesting.

If you look at the 61 on the other side of the page, it's the same. Looks like a stamp and that's just the way it was.

Just Sayin'

[Joecooool]

experts still say it's a fakeExperts in what? Stupidity?

[snide]

Uh, NO.......

YouTube - Proof Obama's 4/27/11 "Long Form Certificate of Birth" is Forged! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJfdKClbH4)

And on TOP of it all, it lists his Father as a Kenyan citizen, thus AT LEAST conferring DUAL CITIZENSHIP on little Barry, rendering him INELIGIBLE to hold the office he now occupies.

The "Birthers" were STILL right and unless you believe the lamestream media - VINDICATED.

So, if he's ineligible, should he be removed from the office and tried for treason? What's the protocol here?

[VITE1]

Experts in what? Stupidity?

Those experts voted for him in the first place.

[snide]

Experts in what? Stupidity?

Those experts voted for him in the first place.

So Phil, you gonna vote him in again? :leaving:

[themonk]

But...but....but....what about all the scholar know-nothing-know-it-alls out there who said he was born in Kenya?

[NeedSpeed]

You know there's a PRC section with a simular thread in it right? :leaving:

You mean there are other sections here?? :leaving:

[lspencer534]

You know there's a PRC section with a simular thread in it right? :leaving:

What??? Get outta here! You're kidding...right?

[Scissors]

Nobody can prove that Hawaii is a state.

[lspencer534]

Interesting little poll from the Colorado Springs Gazette:

It's the real deal: 42%
It's fake: 43%

"Fake birth certificate:" Could debate even after document release get Barack Obama re-elected? - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/04/fake_birth_certificate_document_release_barack_obama_reelected.php)

[themonk]

Interesting little poll from the Colorado Springs Gazette:

It's the real deal: 42%
It's fake: 43%

"Fake birth certificate:" Could debate even after document release get Barack Obama re-elected? - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/04/fake_birth_certificate_document_release_barack_obama_reelected.php)

The president of the United States of America can't fake a birth certificate.

[lspencer534]

The president of the United States of America can't fake a birth certificate.

If you're serious, why not? He can declare war, have people assassinated/disappear, ruin people, all without telling anyone.

[themonk]

If you're serious, why not? He can declare war, have people assassinated/disappear, ruin people, all without telling anyone.

I wonder what the general consensus on that would be?

The most powerful man in the world, I'm pretty sure I know that he can fake whatever the f'k he wants.

[NeedSpeed]

If you're serious, why not? He can declare war, have people assassinated/disappear, ruin people, all without telling anyone.

I doubt he's that good with photoshop.

[xXBUDXx]

I doubt he's that good with photoshop.

:iagree: We would have seen the request posted here. :hide:

[lspencer534]

I wonder what the general consensus on that would be?

The most powerful man in the world, I'm pretty sure I know that he can fake whatever the f'k he wants.

Whatever the consensus might be, consider the Bay of Pigs invasion, Johnson's vote manipulation, Nixon's enemies list, the Valerie Plame affair, etc. They all got exposed, but the President shure as hell wasn't going to reveal it. Castro has been on every President's hit list since Kennedy. Assassination is still murder even if they "deserved to die".

[lspencer534]

:iagree: We would have seen the request posted here. :hide:

I never thought of that. Good point. I take it back. :leaving:

[NeedSpeed]

The most powerful man in the world, I'm pretty sure I know that he can fake whatever the f'k he wants.

We'll have to see what Miss Obama has to say about that. :D

[themonk]

We'll have to see what Miss Obama has to say about that. :D

Well, wouldn't she be the one doing the faking?

[Dan-O]

So, if he's ineligible, should he be removed from the office and tried for treason? What's the protocol here?

Constitutional Crisis.......Impeachment isn't exactly appropriate since he was never eligible in the first place..Impeachment would in essence validate his holding of the office.

OBVIOUSLY removal in some fashion, trial for treason? If you LOOK at what he has done to us, I'd say yes, Biden and a host of other shady characters too, but if we really want to give D.C the enema it needs so badly, we gotta run the Fed out like Andrew Jackson once did, and like JFK was TRYING to do.....It could get UGLY, but it needs to be, we have to take this back.

I just hope that one of the perfumed Princes who haven't been corrupted yet knows what to do and forces the issue........I think Ron Paul might spearhead some of this...I HOPE Ron does.


rant over.

[Mark C5]

And on TOP of it all, it lists his Father as a Kenyan citizen, thus AT LEAST conferring DUAL CITIZENSHIP on little Barry, rendering him INELIGIBLE to hold the office he now occupies.



So I take it you're not a big believer in the 14th Amendment and Title 8 of the U.S. Code?

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net (http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html)

[lspencer534]

So I take it your not a big believer in the 14th Amendment and Title 8 of the U.S. Code?

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net (http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html)

Why...why...that's just outrageous! Who wrote that crap? :leaving:

[Mark C5]

Why...why...that's just outrageous! Who wrote that crap? :leaving:

It's that left wing rag ......... you know the one. :rofl:

[ChasC5]

Wouldn't have mattered. HI was a U.S. territory since 1898. Anyone born there would be a U.S. citizen, just as John McCain. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, and since it was U. S. territory at the time, he is an American Citizen.

Darn, you beet me to it. :confused5:

It's amazing what Americans don't know about America. :D

[ChasC5]

We'll have to see what Miss Obama has to say about that. :D

Miss Obama would be one of his Daughters. :confused5:

Do you mean Mrs. Obama? :D

[lspencer534]

Miss Obama would be one of his Daughters. :confused5:

Do you mean Mrs. Obama? :D

I knew that. :leaving:

[snide]

Darn, you beet me to it. :confused5:

It's amazing what Americans don't know about America. :D

Pickled beets? 'Cause those are awesome. :yesnod:

[ChasC5]

Pickled beets? 'Cause those are awesome. :yesnod:

You like them tooo, I'm meen two, no I mean also? :D

[Jeff '79]

Damn ! You're only 2 years older than me ??? I thought you were ready to kick it....:dance:

[NeedSpeed]

Miss Obama would be one of his Daughters. :confused5:

Do you mean Mrs. Obama? :D

Hawaii is considered south, right? :leaving:

[ChasC5]

Hawaii is considered south, right? :leaving:

Only to Southerners ... :yesnod:

[Scissors]

I just have to laugh at the doublethink conspiracy theorists use. The government can somehow engineer and cover up massive operations requiring the strict silence of thousands of people involved, but can't operate a simple common piece of software.

:rofl:

[kylebuck]

I just have to laugh at the doublethink conspiracy theorists use. The government can somehow engineer and cover up massive operations requiring the strict silence of thousands of people involved, but can't operate a simple common piece of software.

:rofl:

the bitch is in the details scissors....

[nhra_ta]

if it was so easy to produce, why was years and millions spent keeping it from being produced?

me thinks somethings amiss.

:iagree:

[ChasC5]

if it was so easy to produce, why was years and millions spent keeping it from being produced?

me thinks somethings amiss.

Yet another myth ... who spent Millions keeping it from being produced and where is the proof that Millions was being spent and who exactly was spending Millions to keep it from be produced?

Just ignorant people talking out of their ass with yet again no need to show any proof, because the ignorant don't have any need for proof that they are ignorant. :yesnod:

[Joecooool]

Interesting little poll from the Colorado Springs Gazette:

It's the real deal: 42%
It's fake: 43%

"Fake birth certificate:" Could debate even after document release get Barack Obama re-elected? - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/04/fake_birth_certificate_document_release_barack_obama_reelected.php)Makes sense. The average IQ is 100, so that means about 50% have a lower IQ than that...

[Yerf Dog]

I just have to laugh at the doublethink conspiracy theorists use. The government can somehow engineer and cover up massive operations requiring the strict silence of thousands of people involved, but can't operate a simple common piece of software.

:rofl:

That where most conspiracy tales fall apart for me. People love to talk.

[NeedSpeed]

I just opened it in AI, it's flat.

Guess they fixed it. :leaving:

I was wrong, AI does layer it. I just don't know how to use AI :leaving:

[NeedSpeed]

Ok, it's likely this: PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate - By Nathan Goulding - The Corner - National Review Online (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding)

:D