So why don’t we shoot this f***er down?

[99 pewtercoupe]

https://apple.news/AsjaymYToR9Sk0xDhTMZnIw

The United States government is monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that has been moving over northern states over the past several days.
Pentagon spokesperson Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said during a briefing on Thursday afternoon that the U.S. government has detected a high altitude surveillance ballon over the continental United States.
"The United States government has detected and is tracking a high-altitude surveillance balloon that is over the continental United States right now. The U.S. government to include Norad, continues to track and monitor*it closely. The balloon is currently traveling at an altitude well above commercial air traffic and does not present a military or physical threat to people on the ground. Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years. Once the balloon was detected, the US government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information," Ryder said.

[Big bob]

I say we all go outside and moon them.:rofl:

[GTOguy]

Same reason we can't call it the Wuhan Flu or blame China for shitting in the world's swimming pool? Or make Hunter's laptop info public? Or expose the stolen election?

[Aerovette]

We can't start an international incident that might cause China to lower their bid for the purchase of America. Biden needs the sale to go through.

[Torqaholic]

What do they expect to see? Skies have been overcast since November.

[mrvette]

What do they expect to see? Skies have been overcast since November.

Depends on witch way the wind blows........:seasix:

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/5Mi6EIH249oT.jpeg

[Louie Detroit]

What do they expect to see? Skies have been overcast since November.

Just watching Democrats engaging in sodomy and George Floyd culture.

[MikeB]

https://media.patriots.win/post/5Mi6EIH249oT.jpeg

That looks a lot like UD.....

[Grey Ghost]

Milley is on their payroll. He told them to leave 'em alone.

[Bruze]

https://apple.news/AsjaymYToR9Sk0xDhTMZnIw

The United States government is monitoring a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon that has been moving over northern states over the past several days.
Pentagon spokesperson Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said during a briefing on Thursday afternoon that the U.S. government has detected a high altitude surveillance ballon over the continental United States.
"The United States government has detected and is tracking a high-altitude surveillance balloon that is over the continental United States right now. The U.S. government to include Norad, continues to track and monitor*it closely. The balloon is currently traveling at an altitude well above commercial air traffic and does not present a military or physical threat to people on the ground. Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years. Once the balloon was detected, the US government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information," Ryder said.

Why don't they shoot it down?

Washington is in bed with China -- especially their ideology (Marxism).

The Marines openly and happily celebrate "Pride Month" in June.

"We the people" are the enemy of Washington, not China.

[TheHammer]

where's the Space Force!

[Tikiman]

Milley is on their payroll. He told them to leave 'em alone..

[Aerovette]

Holy jeebus, when China flies a fighter plane over the US, are we going to be worried about the debris field? What a crock if shit. We were prepared to shoot down rogue passenger planes during and after 9/11 and now we won't shoot an enemy balloon. We have become a military joke.

[Jughead]

Because china owns everyone in DC

[Tikiman]

Because china owns everyone in DC


Yep. :yesnod:


Starting with the pedophile and his crackhead son.

[6spdC6]

Holy jeebus, when China flies a fighter plane over the US, are we going to be worried about the debris field? What a crock if shit. We were prepared to shoot down rogue passenger planes during and after 9/11 and now we won't shoot an enemy balloon. We have become a military joke.

Russia had no problem shooting down our U2 that was overflying their country.

Most certainly put a shitload of egg on then president Eisenhower, I remember it well!

Biden and his collection of idiots that are running this country do not have a clue!

[Rob]

Now there is a second balloon :rofl:

[LATB]

Now there is a second balloon :rofl:

https://youtu.be/hiwgOWo7mDc

[Tikiman]

How long before the pedophile starts flying the Chinese flag over the White House?

[LATB]

How long before the pedophile starts flying the Chinese flag over the White House?

Will it go above or below the rainbow flag?

[Bill]

Because china owns everyone in DC

The worst part about it is, they TOLD the American public about it. They could have just said nothing, none of us would know, but they WANT us to know. It's all part of the demoralization campaign, a nationwide struggle session. They want us to KNOW ours is a captured nation., bought off for the price of some crooked politicians.

:mad:

[Tikiman]

Will it go above or below the rainbow flag?


With this administration, the rainbow flag flies above all others.

[jw38]

where's the Space Force!

It's not in space.

[Rob]

https://twitter.com/UpwardNewsHQ/status/1621513052008091649

Trust the science

[04 commemorative]

We are ruled by a government of pussies it seems

[sublime1996525]

https://twitter.com/UpwardNewsHQ/status/1621513052008091649

Trust the science

Sure it did...:lol: How high up is it? I'm surprised a bunch on Montana'ans aren't shooting at it lol

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/1KkNsaS5CETj.jpeg

[Frankie the Fink]

Having dealt with airborne/spaceborne intelligence gathering (a very special TS clearance category) I don't think this is a spy device, it would be a very ineffective means of gathering information, drifting randomly around overhead.....and the Chinese know quite well that NORAD tracks space objects in "inches and ounces", literally, including all the space junk that astronauts have left orbiting around.

However, if it had sophisticated imaging technology sufficient to detect classified documents in unsecured garages that would be a consideration.

[Bruze]

https://media.patriots.win/post/1KkNsaS5CETj.jpeg

Is that Sun's kid? He don't look like a Chink. :shrug:

He seems to have a different opinion of enemies than Poppa had. Must be a libtard. :D

[Aerovette]

I can only assume if we flew a couple balloons over China, they would also have no problem with it.

:wtf:

[Wathen1955]

It's a test to see how far the Chinese can push their spying. To bad we don't have a device that can capture and retrieve it in order to see it's capability.

[Big bob]

It's a test to see how far the Chinese can push their spying. To bad we don't have a device that can capture and retrieve it in order to see it's capability.


You mean a bb gun?:rofl:

[gs568]

Biden can't possibly shoot down the spy balloon because it would upset his boss - China.

[Aerovette]

That looks a lot like UD.....

The similarities go beyond appearance.

[VITE1]

Having dealt with airborne/spaceborne intelligence gathering (a very special TS clearance category) I don't think this is a spy device, it would be a very ineffective means of gathering information, drifting randomly around overhead.....and the Chinese know quite well that NORAD tracks space objects in "inches and ounces", literally, including all the space junk that astronauts have left orbiting around.

However, if it had sophisticated imaging technology sufficient to detect classified documents in unsecured garages that would be a consideration.

China admits it's theirs

“The airship is from China,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement Friday morning. “It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course.

“The Chinese side regrets the unintended entry of the airship into U.S. airspace due to force majeure. The Chinese side will continue communicating with the U.S. side and properly handle this unexpected situation caused by force majeure.”
https://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110504061635/men-in-black/images/e/eb/Neuralizer1.png

[GTOguy]

Reminds me of the Japanese balloon bombs sent over the US and Canada during WW2. Couple of people were blown up in Washington a few years ago when they stumbled across one in the forest. This is some truly, truly insidious shit. The fact we let it be further reinforces the badge of cowardice and weakness we are presenting to the world.

[Rob]

Now one over Kansas City, Missouri

https://twitter.com/NWSKansasCity/status/1621562137717141505

[69L46]

And if we let a “a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes” float over their country, would the Chinese react in a similar manner of doing nothing and attempting to downplay it?

I think not.

[Aerovette]

And if we let a “a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes” float over their country, would the Chinese react in a similar manner of doing nothing and attempting to downplay it?

I think not.

I don't know. They seem to be very reasonable people to deal with. :Jeff '79:

[69L46]

I don't know. They seem to be very reasonable people to deal with. :Jeff '79:


:funny:

I'm a bit disappointed, it's just a round orb.

I was hoping for a likeness of Xi Jinping to be floating over DC. Would have been appropriate anyway.

[Bill]

It's a test to see how far the Chinese can push their spying. To bad we don't have a device that can capture and retrieve it in order to see it's capability.

At a cost of a million dollars each for a cruise missile, you'd think we could develop a high altitude balloon of our own, equipped with navigational thrusters, and some kind of grappling hook, net, or something to affix the Chinese spy balloon and bring it down in a controlled landing so we can see what's in it.

But hey, we do have pronoun training and paid sex changes for the military, so there's that. Money well spent as far as I'm concerned.

[sublime1996525]

At a cost of a million dollars each for a cruise missile, you'd think we could develop a high altitude balloon of our own, equipped with navigational thrusters, and some kind of grappling hook, net, or something to affix the Chinese spy balloon and bring it down in a controlled landing so we can see what's in it.

But hey, we do have pronoun training and paid sex changes for the military, so there's that. Money well spent as far as I'm concerned.

Just get some dude up there with their Cesna 152 and a hook. Problem solved lol.

[Louie Detroit]

It would be sweet if a good ol' boy with a rifle put an end to this commie horseshit.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/akmms9jIMDLc.jpeg



:lol:

The memes almost make this national humiliation worthwhile. Almost. Waiting for one with the balloon dropping a payoff to the Biden's....airdrop, as it were.

https://media.patriots.win/post/VzA1Ui2nWb5n.jpeg


https://media.patriots.win/post/O8FNuZP51cAB.jpeg

https://media.patriots.win/post/2FaLP7ynonVr.jpeg

[Bill]

Just get some dude up there with their Cesna 152 and a hook. Problem solved lol.

How high can civilian aircraft actually fly? High enough to level up with the balloon? Even if that's possible, it seems like an endeavor fraught with peril. The balloon would easily take out an engine, either prop, or jet if the approach was even a bit off.

[Bruze]

Here's the latest image of it, might be a second balloon. They have not identified the source though. Hmm, strange looking balloon:


https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=336&pictureid=3481


Aha, they zoomed in and we see this nefarious-looking character piloting it. They should definitely shoot it down:


https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=336&pictureid=3482


And I stole his "HA HA" smiley. https://i.ibb.co/bQQYH2q/smiley-laughing0241.gif

[Chemtrails99]

https://media.patriots.win/post/5Mi6EIH249oT.jpeg

Great. According to Facebook that photo violates public nidity laws and now I get a vacation......funny how it took less than a second to happen when the Bidens get protection.

[NEED-A-VETTE]

75776

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/wz9RQkiIZmvr.jpeg

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1621557393640267779

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1621557393640267779

They will let the public know where Santa is, but a Chinese spy balloon? Nope.


https://media.patriots.win/post/d6M20cFxczJj.jpeg

[ZipZap]

We can easily see the equipment deck on these balloons, so we already know whether there are cameras, and their apertures. We for sure have monitored any rf transmissions, so we likely know whether they are engaged in active sensing, or SAR. Independent of what the Chinese say, we already have a pretty good idea about the mission.

As far as taking it out, 60,000 ft is a piece of cake. On the other hand, f-ing around with it could provide good TT&P information. Love to see us point a ground based laser at the deck and heat some stuff up. Would they maneuver? Are we monitoring the rf going from the balloon to the satellite relay? Which satellite are they using? What is the frequency band? Is it encrypted? If not, we can get the crosslink and see exactly what they're doing.

As far as balloons, we assessed many constellations that were balloon based. The reason is that balloons have incredible loitering capability, unlike LEO satellites. You just move them up and down and catch the best air stream to stay relatively in the same area. The altitudes make remote sensing possible with much smaller apertures than in space.

Just shooting it down would be the Neanderthal move right now. Once we get all of the info on it, we can make a decision on how the asset is best used from an international standpoint.

[Rob]

Our borders are not protected from illegal aliens, why should we expect our airspace to be protected?

The government is the issue, not the foreign nations sending people or things here. They know our government is too chicken shit to do anything

[Bruze]

They will let the public know where Santa is, but a Chinese spy balloon? Nope.


https://media.patriots.win/post/d6M20cFxczJj.jpeg

https://i.ibb.co/bQQYH2q/smiley-laughing0241.gif

I hate Swalwell more than I hate Pencil Neck. https://i.imgur.com/jkx6Zdo.gif

[04 commemorative]

On the news they said it is bigger than 2 school buses so I can understand them not wanting to shoot it down over population.

[Mike Mercury]

The Chinese may have vials of strong virus or nuclear material on that balloon. THAT is why they are not shooting it down while it's over the mainland US.

They will wait until it goes over the US and into the Atlantic, then they'll do something about it.

The sad part is we didn't shoot it down in the Pacific... before it made it to Mainland US soil.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/r42RWVFcmoKA.png

[BRUIZER]

Greeeeeat. I relocate to the middle of nowhere and now have to build a f'ing underground bomb shelter to keep safe from US govt incompetence and stupidity. I'm starting to feel Mehico or Nicaragua is actually safer at this point.

[Bruze]

Greeeeeat. I relocate to the middle of nowhere and now have to build a f'ing underground bomb shelter to keep safe from US govt incompetence and stupidity. I'm starting to feel Mehico or Nicaragua is actually safer at this point.

Washington is following right in the footsteps of previous Marxist revolutions around the globe.

Their biggest enemy is always their own people.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/DXiiqF6WykDD.jpeg

One of the states it passes over should call out their state Air National Guard and shoot it down. Don't ask permission, just do it.

[Jeff78]

Balloon Lives Matter

[Bill]

Compare and contrast:

When our spy plane gets too close to China, they take it down, and don't think twice. Meanwhile, we get to watch helplessly as a Chinese spy balloon gathers intel about our nuclear silos and secret military bases.

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_archive_WNBM7224A_001_wg.jpg

[Rob]

On the news they said it is bigger than 2 school buses so I can understand them not wanting to shoot it down over population.

What if it was over a Democrat voting area?

[69L46]

'Nuff said.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/BYIW4ymPQtc0.png


https://media.patriots.win/post/6cUlqJ2JolYH.jpeg

https://media.patriots.win/post/qOhlHeK2QPTu.jpeg

https://media.patriots.win/post/5bU3u1sbORn5.jpeg

[Mike Mercury]

What if it was over a Democrat voting area?

It would start dropping thousands of mail-in ballots.

[VITE1]

https://youtu.be/k8qjxT1iIAM

[sublime1996525]

'Nuff said.

I'm confused how people doing stupid lip syncing and dances on TikTok is getting the Chinese great intel?

[Torqaholic]

There's only one reason such a low tech approach makes any sense considering they have satellite capability. That reason being it's a delivery vehicle. Most likely a bioweapon. Remember how they bitched up a storm over virus testing of outgoing flights?

Shooting it down could be bad news, allowing it to reach it's intended target probably worse. I highly doubt brandon wanted this shot down and was overruled by generals. The opposite scenario seems far more logical. This excuse that the wreckage might cause damage by landing on something is absurd. Vaporize the MF'r :yesnod:

Now I hear there's a second balloon incoming? They better figure something out before it's too late.

[Wathen1955]

At a cost of a million dollars each for a cruise missile, you'd think we could develop a high altitude balloon of our own, equipped with navigational thrusters, and some kind of grappling hook, net, or something to affix the Chinese spy balloon and bring it down in a controlled landing so we can see what's in it.

But hey, we do have pronoun training and paid sex changes for the military, so there's that. Money well spent as far as I'm concerned.Maybe Elon Musk has something up his sleeve that we can use (i.e. grappling hook)?

[Mike Mercury]

it's a delivery vehicle. Most likely a bioweapon..

https://www.tim-yvonne.com/gif/bell1.gif

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/o8mjlRGnLPuR.jpeg

[Chemtrails99]

Meh. Xi is just sending distractions for his puppet Xiden to use to distract from Humper and all his other problems. The longer it floats around, the longer the US sits on its butt like a fat, stupid cat staring at the balloon.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/LYgJgk7ob3IJ.jpeg

[JRD77VET]

Maybe a trial run for a EMP?

[mrvette]

Said on FOX, out of Montana, sky explosion, massive......Billings.....

and another balloon ?? over Canada, and another through Latin America???


interesting shit.....:issues:

[sublime1996525]

Said on FOX, out of Montana, sky explosion, massive......Billings.....

and another balloon ?? over Canada, and another through Latin America???


interesting shit.....:issues:

Didn’t I also see one that was over Kentucky or something like that?

[Torqaholic]

Maybe a trial run for a EMP?

Possibly. Read a science article once that claimed you could buy enough Radio Shack components to black out a whole state for $100. That's the first closeup image I've seen of the gizmo that balloon is hauling. Looks way more complex than what $100 will get you.

[Vette40th]

https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Faviation%2Fa38005873%2Fpentagon-balloons-strattolite

[Yadkin]

I say we all go outside and moon them.:rofl:

Yours would be seen from space using a cell phone camera. :Jeff '79:

[Frankie the Fink]

Having worked Top Secret counterintelligence decades ago overseas as a member of the Army Security Agency, I can tell you flat out that even back then there were better ELINT, COMINT and SIGINT means of collecting intelligence than a randomly floating around, easily detectable, huge high altitude balloon. Its either weather collection or a blatant taunt.

Possibly a distraction from the whole Hunter/classified data scandal. The balloon prob has a small tag attached that says "Property of Burisma"...

[Big bob]

Yours would be seen from space using a cell phone camera. :Jeff '79:


But it is heading your way.:kimblair:

[6spdC6]

Having worked Top Secret counterintelligence decades ago overseas as a member of the Army Security Agency, I can tell you flat out that even back then there were better ELINT, COMINT and SIGINT means of collecting intelligence than a randomly floating around, easily detectable, huge high altitude balloon. Its either a weather collection or a blatant taunt.

Blatant taunt, and our idiot in chief and the lessor idiots do not have a clue.

Want to bet Trump or RR would have well taken care of things!--:hurray:

[Burro (He/Haw)]

I'm confused how people doing stupid lip syncing and dances on TikTok is getting the Chinese great intel?

I suspect they get what they're looking for at the front end of the process. Primarily your email. After they collect that information they probably don't give a shit.

[Tikiman]

.

[Louie Detroit]

.

[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/9U7Uj7IH4KWG.jpeg


https://i.redd.it/x8x10eo6d6ga1.jpg

https://media.patriots.win/post/JxmwuU2EnkJK.jpeg

[Louie Detroit]

.

[Fester]

It's filled with the next variant and the Chinese can't wait for us to shoot it down.

[Big bob]

It is dropping little balloons of selected viruses. It has been doing it for awhile but was kept from us till it was spotted. Just feeling the effects of the bird flu can't wait to see what blooms next.:sadangel:

[Bill]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/chinese-spy-balloon-changes-course-floating-over-central-united-states-pentagon-2023-02-03/

Chinese spy balloon changes course, floating over central United States-Pentagon
By Phil Stewart
and Idrees Ali

WASHINGTON, Feb 3 (Reuters) - A Chinese spy balloon has changed course and is now floating eastward at about 60,000 feet (18,300 meters) over the central United States, demonstrating a capability to maneuver, the U.S. military said on Friday, in the latest twist to a spying saga that led U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to postpone a visit to China.

The disclosure about the spy balloon's maneuverability directly challenges China's assertion that the balloon was merely a civilian airship that had strayed into U.S. territory after being blown off course.

"We know this is a Chinese (surveillance) balloon and that it has the ability to maneuver," Air Force Brigadier General Patrick Ryder told a news briefing at the Pentagon, declining to say precisely how it was powered or who in China was controlling its flight path.
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U.S. President Joe Biden on Wednesday decided against shooting down the balloon as it floated over Montana due to U.S. military concerns about the likely dispersal of debris, American officials say.


The Pentagon expects the balloon to continue traveling over U.S. airspace for a few more days, Ryder said, declining to speculate on what options the U.S. military might develop in that time as speculation swirled about whether Biden could still order the balloon be destroyed or perhaps captured.

Ryder said the U.S. military would not specify where precisely the balloon was positioned over the central United States, saying he didn't want to get into an "hour-by-hour" cycle of updates. He said people in any given U.S. state could look up into the sky if they wanted.

"The public certainly has the ability to look up in the sky and see where the balloon is," Ryder said.

Senator Roger Marshall from Kansas said the spy balloon was over the northeastern part of his state and his staff was is in contact with law enforcement officials.

"I condemn any attempts the Chinese make to spy on Americans. President Biden must protect the sovereignty of the U.S.," Marshall posted on Twitter.

Ryder added the balloon posed no risk to people on the ground.

He spoke amid growing political fallout over the Chinese balloon's presence over the United States.

Postponement of Blinken's trip, which had been arranged in November by Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping, is a blow to those on both sides who saw it as an overdue opportunity to stabilize an increasingly fractious relationship. The last visit by a U.S. secretary of state was in 2017.

Biden ignored questions about the balloon when giving remarks on the economy Friday morning.

Chinese spy satellites carry similar sensors to what U.S. officials believe is on the spy balloon, raising questions about why Beijing would risk such a brazen act on the eve of a major diplomatic event.

Still, the Chinese spy balloon has taken a flight path that would carry it over a number of sensitive sites, officials say. One such site could be military bases, including in Montana, which is home to intercontinental ballistic missile silos.

The Billings, Montana, airport on Wednesday issued a ground stop as the military mobilized assets including F-22 fighter jets in case Biden ordered that the balloon be shot down.

[Stevedore]

Don't we have some sort of high altitude aircraft that could laser a hole (or holes) into this balloon & cause a slow descent & harmless landing? Except then China, and everyone else, would know that we have some sort of high altitude aircraft that could laser a hole (or holes) into this balloon & cause a slow descent & harmless landing.

I'd expect that our military, CIA, NSA, etc., could learn something from retrieving this thing undamaged.

[Big bob]

It is called a bb gun.:rofl:

[MadInNc]

It’s gone. Done blown up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712125/Explosion-sky-Billings-Montana-Chinese-balloon-spotted-U-S-airspace.html


'Explosion in the sky' above Billings Montana where Chinese spy balloon was spotted infiltrating U.S airspace - as residents report seeing jet zoom by after officials came under fire for refusing to shoot it down
* Resident witnesses in Billings, Montana, saw an 'explosion in the sky' after US officials warned of a Chinese spy balloon flying over the region
* Video of the aftermath reveals a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was
* US officials called the balloon a 'clear violation of sovereignty' while warning that it wouldn't be shot down because it was hovering over 'sensitive sites'


An explosion in the sky over Billings Montana, where a Chinese spy balloon has been flying over the region, was caught on camera Friday.

Mysterious video of the aftermath shows a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was last spotted.

Dolly Moore, who took video of the scene, said she 'saw a jet go by so fast and then explosion in the sky.'
……….

[Aerovette]

It’s gone. Done blown up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712125/Explosion-sky-Billings-Montana-Chinese-balloon-spotted-U-S-airspace.html


'Explosion in the sky' above Billings Montana where Chinese spy balloon was spotted infiltrating U.S airspace - as residents report seeing jet zoom by after officials came under fire for refusing to shoot it down
* Resident witnesses in Billings, Montana, saw an 'explosion in the sky' after US officials warned of a Chinese spy balloon flying over the region
* Video of the aftermath reveals a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was
* US officials called the balloon a 'clear violation of sovereignty' while warning that it wouldn't be shot down because it was hovering over 'sensitive sites'


An explosion in the sky over Billings Montana, where a Chinese spy balloon has been flying over the region, was caught on camera Friday.

Mysterious video of the aftermath shows a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was last spotted.

Dolly Moore, who took video of the scene, said she 'saw a jet go by so fast and then explosion in the sky.'
……….

White House answering machine...

"Hello Joe, yeah, this is Xi. Hey, we got all that we needed so you can go ahead and shoot the balloon down. Call me if you have any questions. Your 10% is on the way. Sorry payment was late. We got sidetracked with a new strain. You're gonna love this one. Full body suit stuff. Anyway, gimme a call".

[Bill]

It’s gone. Done blown up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712125/Explosion-sky-Billings-Montana-Chinese-balloon-spotted-U-S-airspace.html


'Explosion in the sky' above Billings Montana where Chinese spy balloon was spotted infiltrating U.S airspace - as residents report seeing jet zoom by after officials came under fire for refusing to shoot it down
* Resident witnesses in Billings, Montana, saw an 'explosion in the sky' after US officials warned of a Chinese spy balloon flying over the region
* Video of the aftermath reveals a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was
* US officials called the balloon a 'clear violation of sovereignty' while warning that it wouldn't be shot down because it was hovering over 'sensitive sites'


An explosion in the sky over Billings Montana, where a Chinese spy balloon has been flying over the region, was caught on camera Friday.

Mysterious video of the aftermath shows a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was last spotted.

Dolly Moore, who took video of the scene, said she 'saw a jet go by so fast and then explosion in the sky.'
……….

Rong!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/where-is-chinese-spy-balloon-now-airship-spotted-flying-north-carolina

Where is the Chinese spy balloon now? Airship spotted flying over North Carolina

Published February 4, 2023 11:09am EST


The balloon now sits above Charlotte, North Carolina

By Kyle Morris | Fox News




The suspected Chinese spy balloon, which has slowly transitioned across the United States over the last two days, now sits above North Carolina.

Footage captured by Fox News Saturday morning showed the balloon sitting just above Charlotte, North Carolina, around 10:30 a.m. ET.

An image of the balloon hovering above Fairfield, North Carolina, was also shared by meteorology student Evan Fisher earlier Saturday morning.



Other social media users posted about seeing planes flying in formation shortly after the balloon passed overhead.

The updated location of the suspected surveillance device comes after Defense Department spokesman Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said Friday that the balloon, which China claims is a civilian reconnaissance airship that inadvertently drifted off course, had "changed its course" and moved to the central part of the country.

Photos shared Friday evening by the National Weather Service in Kansas City, Missouri, showed what appeared to be the balloon, which was first reported to be hovering over Montana, visible from its office in Pleasant Hill that appeared to be headed southeast. "We have confirmed that it is not an NWS weather balloon," NWS Kansas City said.

The Pentagon, amid steady pushback from Republican lawmakers who are keeping an eye on the situation, said that it considered taking down the possible threat from China, but ultimately decided against any action due to "the risk to safety and security of people on the ground from the possible debris field."

The balloon, which Ryder said Friday will "probably be over the United States for a few days," was reportedly flying about 60,000 feet above sea level — higher than civilian aircraft fly.
Senior State Department officials have called the incident "unacceptable," and Secretary of State Antony Blinken has indefinitely postponed a planned trip to China to meet President Xi Jinping in light of the circumstances.


Several governors — including Missouri GOP Gov. Mike Parson and Montana GOP Gov. Greg Gianforte — have expressed frustration over the Biden administrations' lack of communication as the balloon traversed American airspace.

"We have received zero communication from the Biden Administration regarding reports of the suspected Chinese spy balloon now flying over Missouri," Parson wrote in a tweet on Friday. "We have heard no explanation or plan to remove it. Why has this been allowed to reach our heartland? Why has it not been eliminated?"

Similarly, Gianforte, during a Saturday morning appearance on "Fox and Friends Weekend," blasted the Biden administration's communication about the balloon.


"We're informed through our national guard," Gianforte said. "We knew nothing about this until this slow moving balloon was hundreds of miles into the state. It had already flown over military installations and it was over our most populous city in the state."


A senior U.S. Defense official told Fox News the balloon was launched from mainland China. The Pentagon does not believe that this was a weather balloon that flew off course, as China initially claimed. There was no "force majeure" that caused the Chinese surveillance balloon to enter U.S. airspace, as China's foreign ministry spokesperson had said.

"This was intentional," the senior U.S. official said.

[sublime1996525]

It’s gone. Done blown up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712125/Explosion-sky-Billings-Montana-Chinese-balloon-spotted-U-S-airspace.html


'Explosion in the sky' above Billings Montana where Chinese spy balloon was spotted infiltrating U.S airspace - as residents report seeing jet zoom by after officials came under fire for refusing to shoot it down
* Resident witnesses in Billings, Montana, saw an 'explosion in the sky' after US officials warned of a Chinese spy balloon flying over the region
* Video of the aftermath reveals a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was
* US officials called the balloon a 'clear violation of sovereignty' while warning that it wouldn't be shot down because it was hovering over 'sensitive sites'


An explosion in the sky over Billings Montana, where a Chinese spy balloon has been flying over the region, was caught on camera Friday.

Mysterious video of the aftermath shows a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was last spotted.

Dolly Moore, who took video of the scene, said she 'saw a jet go by so fast and then explosion in the sky.'
……….

I don’t think that’s the original one. It sounds like that’s the one from Canada. There is also, possibly, one of Latin America.

[Torqaholic]

Originally Posted by sublime1996525 View Post
I'm confused how people doing stupid lip syncing and dances on TikTok is getting the Chinese great intel?

My theory is it has nothing to do with intel, it's about access, and the more users the better. In the event of a war they will have the ability to turn the computers of those users into scrap via an automatic update.

For the majority of people these days who are incapable of reading, writing, and arithmetic without electronic assistance that's as good as a bullet to the brain.

[NEED-A-VETTE]

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Refueler. Wonder what else is up there with it...

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Refueler. Wonder what else is up there with it...

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[NEED-A-VETTE]

Refueler. Wonder what else is up there with it...

He has friends. :D

Also, some news just happened to pop up at the same time.

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At least I know that ain't an art major at the yoke:rofl:

[ZipZap]

Pulled this stuff...

1) Flightradar of the area that shows a big "hole" in the airspace.

2) Special security NOTAM that popped up.

[Rob]

It’s down

[Bill]

That NOTAM is clearly discriminatory against men. Note that only airMEN are being threatened with legal penalties, not any of the other 57 genders that make up the proud mosaic of people of air. I'm outraged! I guess Mayor Pete doesn't care, because, since he isn't a man, he won't be personally effected by this discriminatory policy.

:mad:

[ZipZap]

That NOTAM is clearly discriminatory against men. Note that only airMEN are being threatened with legal penalties, not any of the other 57 genders that make up the proud mosaic of people of air. I'm outraged! I guess Mayor Pete doesn't care, because, since he isn't a man, he won't be personally effected by this discriminatory policy.

:mad:

You're behind the times. It is now "Notice to Air Missions".

More PC BS.

[NEED-A-VETTE]

https://twitter.com/globesentinels/status/1621958852940800002?s=46&t=fOUKVxi8cIaqjhkGHEvBvw

[Aerovette]

With so many genders, those gender reveal balloons have become enormous.

[Bill]

You're behind the times. It is now "Notice to Air Missions".

More PC BS.

Yes, I know, but read the actual notice. They still use the word "airmen" in the text of it, which, as I pointed out, is clearly offensive and discriminatory.

[Rob]

https://twitter.com/upwardnewshq/status/1621961809564516353?s=46&t=rWzxCuzjcW65AwRFvsEs4g

[ZipZap]

Yes, I know, but read the actual notice. They still use the word "airmen" in the text of it, which, as I pointed out, is clearly offensive and discriminatory.

They just haven't got to the certification process yet...

I'm waiting to see when the AF follows suit with the lower enlisted ranks. Space Force went to Spec and addresses folks as Guardians.

[Bill]

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[Bill]

https://twitter.com/globesentinels/status/1621958852940800002?s=46&t=fOUKVxi8cIaqjhkGHEvBvw



^^^^That's what they WANT you to believe. My money is on, Kyle took it down, defending our homeland AGAIN:

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[the new me]

Up next: Intercontinental spy kites

[Big bob]

Did they win the big teddy bear?:yesnod:

[MadInNc]

The Shoot Down

Utah Video of the Chinese ballon being shot down filmed @Holden Beach Nc take by friend of my sons family

[Aerovette]

How convenient to shoot it down where it is unrecoverable...kind of like Bin Laden's body.

[dvarapala]

It's filled with the next variant and the Chinese can't wait for us to shoot it down.

:yesnod:

[ft laud mike]

pussies run the country, they wont shoot at anything

[MadInNc]

pussies run the country, they wont shoot at anything

They shot it down if ya read up in the thread. Come on Man get with it

[Louie Detroit]

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[Bill]

https://media.patriots.win/post/SD3CvzpyVBZb.jpeg

[Rikki Z-06]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1621917914327547908

[Blademaker]

https://www.aol.com/news/chinese-spy-balloon-flying-above-194602956.html

[cptlo306]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1392606054813849

[JRD77VET]

Somebody want to tell me why they let the balloon fly across the entire country gathering info on who knows who BEFORE shooting it down?

Also, how do we know it was china? because the news or deep state said so?

What are they hiding? So whole debacle is a shit show.

[Taurus]

Somebody want to tell me why they let the balloon fly across the entire country gathering info on who knows who BEFORE shooting it down?

Also, how do we know it was china? because the news or deep state said so?

What are they hiding? So whole debacle is a shit show.

Military advised waiting until it was off the coast, didn't feel it was safe to fire live air to air weapons over land nor have debris falling on our people. Besides, what do we think the balloon saw that their satellites have not already seen?

[JRD77VET]

Military advised waiting until it was off the coast, didn't feel it was safe to fire live air to air weapons over land nor have debris falling on our people. Besides, what do we think the balloon saw that their satellites have not already seen?

They saw it over Montana ( at least that's when the people saw it and it "broke cover" ). Except for a few cities, Montana is wide open. Our national security is worth more than a steer that it might fall on.

We are being fed a big line of bullshit on this.

[Taurus]

They saw it over Montana ( at least that's when the people saw it and it "broke cover" ). Except for a few cities, Montana is wide open. Our national security is worth more than a steer that it might fall on.

We are being fed a big line of bullshit on this.

Maybe, but remember it's 11 miles high in the jet stream. Very little control or guess where it would have fallen. Besides, their satellites are looking at us every day, what's so important about what the balloon saw?

[JRD77VET]

Maybe, but remember it's 11 miles high in the jet stream. Very little control or guess where it would have fallen. Besides, their satellites are looking at us every day, what's so important about what the balloon saw?

Exactly who's balloon was it? For all we know it was deep state "spying" on pro constitution groups.

Prove me wrong.

[Bill]

Chinese government trolls the US:

https://media.patriots.win/post/vqsLD3Cy0z70.png

America deserves the ritual humiliation being inflicted on us, sadly.

[Taurus]

Exactly who's balloon was it? For all we know it was deep state "spying" on pro constitution groups.

Prove me wrong.

How can I prove you wrong? Prove you're right. We'll know once they gather the debris which was happening earlier.

[JRD77VET]

How can I prove you wrong? Prove you're right. We'll know once they gather the debris which was happening earlier.

With the current administration, we'll never get a truthful answer.

EVERYTHING is a big lie with them.

[Aerovette]

Military advised waiting until it was off the coast, didn't feel it was safe to fire live air to air weapons over land nor have debris falling on our people. Besides, what do we think the balloon saw that their satellites have not already seen?

It was a balloon. They could have brought it down with chaff.

[Bill]

The Byrds - Eight Miles High (Audio) - YouTube

[ptindall]

This is fascinating. I agree with those saying there is nothing a balloon can really do as far as spying. So what is the point? I suspect it was not shot down over the US on the possibility it contained anthrax or some shit. Seems that's the only real threat it could possibly pose. So the Chinese motivation is mysterious, which makes this episode fascinating. Maybe it's true purpose was the record US air defense reaction times, radar wavelength, etc.

It was interesting to me that the report is it was shot down by an AIM-9X from an F-22. I wouldn't have used an F-22 on the chance it was recording F-22 radar signature at various ranges, wavelengths, and angles. I would have used an F-15 or F-16. AIM-9X is interesting as well. The only heat signature would be the ballon surface heated by the sun. A huge, but not a very hot target. Seems like it would be a far easier target for an AMRAAM, but the AIM-9X obviously did the job. I just hope all the debris is recovered instead of sunk and lost.

[Bill]

Another balloon spotted:

https://media.patriots.win/post/G2NfoRW9T84v.jpeg

[Louie Detroit]

Another balloon spotted:

https://media.patriots.win/post/G2NfoRW9T84v.jpeg

Ol’ fart cushion appears to have just about reached maximum density, what a disgusting pig, both inside and out. Oink oink.

[Yadkin]

It’s down

Chinks gave Hunter the go-ahead, because the mission was accomplished. :yesnod:

[Wathen1955]

Biden just proved he and Hunter have backdoor dealings with China. They make a big announcement that they popped the balloon over the Atlantic Ocean where it won’t fall on someone’s house, as if we are supposed to believe he did this to show us he cares about our security and safety.

Doesn’t he and his joke of an administration realize that most educated Americans and children know that the balloon doesn’t record data, it sends it, real time, to a satellite that relays it back to China. Rather than down it as soon as it entered US air space Biden let it fly across the entire US, with China guiding it along the way over our air bases, ICBM silos and other national security installations.

China has everything they wanted from this balloons flight across the US. I’m sure Biden and Jinping worked out a secret deal so Biden would let Jinping fly it across the US and Jinping would let Biden shoot it down. China gets their data and the Biden’s keep their personal financial dealing with China. :issues:

[Tikiman]

This is fascinating. I agree with those saying there is nothing a balloon can really do as far as spying. So what is the point? I suspect it was not shot down over the US on the possibility it contained anthrax or some shit. Seems that's the only real threat it could possibly pose. So the Chinese motivation is mysterious, which makes this episode fascinating. Maybe it's true purpose was the record US air defense reaction times, radar wavelength, etc.

It was interesting to me that the report is it was shot down by an AIM-9X from an F-22. I wouldn't have used an F-22 on the chance it was recording F-22 radar signature at various ranges, wavelengths, and angles. I would have used an F-15 or F-16. AIM-9X is interesting as well. The only heat signature would be the ballon surface heated by the sun. A huge, but not a very hot target. Seems like it would be a far easier target for an AMRAAM, but the AIM-9X obviously did the job. I just hope all the debris is recovered instead of sunk and lost.


Supposed to only be in 70 feet of water, but I have to wonder just how well Navy divers can dive wearing leather dog masks.

[Aerovette]

If Whoopi can add another 5 or 10 lbs, she could be the next Victoria's Secret model.

[Mike Mercury]

I notice this a lot on national news:

China publicly stated that the balloon was a “civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes”

China is a communist nation; there is nothing "civilian" owned. Do they think we don't know this :confused:


We are being fed a big line of bullshit on this.

and CNN & MSNBC are right there providing cover for that political party.

[Big bob]

It sole purpose was to collect information it worked as intended. It proved our chain of command is totally incompetent. Should have popped it over the Aleutian islands. But our bent over leaders just let it go untill some goat roper spots it in Montana. Oh can't shoot it down to dangerous might hit someone. Has he ever been to Montana? We are now being overrun from the ground and the air with the most low teach resources while protecting others more than ourselves.



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[sublime1996525]

Supposed to only be in 70 feet of water, but I have to wonder just how well Navy divers can dive wearing leather dog masks.

Fortunately that was an Army officer. Navy divers are pretty awesome, still.

[Bill]

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https://media.patriots.win/post/w7aRFbRcYBem.jpeg

[Big bob]

Did they win the big teddy bear?:yesnod:

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Who could have seen that coming? :confused5:Who says they don't have a sense of humor. :rofl:

[JRD77VET]

The Biden administration is totally and completely inept. The second it was discovered it should have been shot down.

[JRD77VET]

They just intercepted a picture :yesnod:

[Bill]

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[MadInNc]

Latest balloons meme’s found

[Aerovette]

Does Canada have the same "Let them spy while we look the other way" agreement with China, or did Canada just provide safe passage to the US?

[Jughead]

Biden just proved he and Hunter have backdoor dealings with China. They make a big announcement that they popped the balloon over the Atlantic Ocean where it won’t fall on someone’s house, as if we are supposed to believe he did this to show us he cares about our security and safety.

Doesn’t he and his joke of an administration realize that most educated Americans and children know that the balloon doesn’t record data, it sends it, real time, to a satellite that relays it back to China. Rather than down it as soon as it entered US air space Biden let it fly across the entire US, with China guiding it along the way over our air bases, ICBM silos and other national security installations.

China has everything they wanted from this balloons flight across the US. I’m sure Biden and Jinping worked out a secret deal so Biden would let Jinping fly it across the US and Jinping would let Biden shoot it down. China gets their data and the Biden’s keep their personal financial dealing with China. :issues:

10% to the big guy.

[Torqaholic]

:D
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[MadInNc]

Another sighting of a new Balloon!!!!!!

[Bill]

Does Canada have the same "Let them spy while we look the other way" agreement with China, or did Canada just provide safe passage to the US?

Balloons were spotted in Canada a while back, and nothing was done about them then, which certainly must have emboldened the Chinese:

https://media.scored.co/post/JlHNSddGM7BC.jpeg

[JRD77VET]

Was the balloon story just a distraction?

It seems at the exact same time, FTX ( the bankrupt crypto company) send out letters to both Democrats and Republicans requesting they return donations paid out.

list
https://unusualwhales.com/politics/article/senate_ftx

[Frankie the Fink]

The real sham is the administration and media making this "no big deal" because it happened multiple times under Trump, and yet, none of the leaders from that period know anything about it, not the Director of NORAD, not the DNI (Director of National Intelligence) nor does anybody recall even discussions of such incidents.

And yet, the lie is still promulgated; if you don't think the press is in this adminsitration's hip pocket - think again,

[MadInNc]

Guess what. Horrywood is making a movie

[Bill]

If Whoopi can add another 5 or 10 lbs, she could be the next Stacy Abrams.

Fixed.

[Louie Detroit]

Fixed.

Does fart cushion have the Rufus Gappytoofus look going?

[zeek]

This....

[Onebadcad]

Another sighting of a new Balloon!!!!!!

Not certain you could make a balloon that large that would fly,,,

[Onebadcad]

On the 10-minute drive to work, listing to Kilmeade on radio, he played a sound clip of a general, who I believe has oversight over NORAD.
This loser said they first detected while over Alaska, but per USA Military Policy, due to no hostile actions observed, nor a threat to our population, there was NO REASON TO ENGAGE.

The guest on the show, a military man, said in iraq and afghanistan, they routinely killed all enemies, regardless if 'hostility' was active, because they wanted to stop the trouble before it started.
For example, they engaged and killed many bomb and IED makers BEFORE USA Servicemen came under attack, he stated multiple kills were enemies digging holes in roads to plant lethal devices.
I think the norad POS is lying, time to bring him into The House, ask him to restate, point out military policy, and then court-martial him for dereliction of duty.

Lastly, many asses are protecting other asses!!
depends joe, as the story goes was told at least 24 hours after detection, this is another lie, take it to The House, and prove they lied, and the balloon could have easily have been taken down while in Alaska.

It is getting harder to determine if these effing incompetent losers are just effing stupid, or lazy, and know they can cover both with lying, as the msm sucks it hard like a $10 hoe.

[Mike Mercury]

a $10 hoe.





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[Frankie the Fink]

Even in the 70's the Army Security Agency had an intelligence site at Shemya Alaska on an island - that stie is still active today and I had military pals stationed there (miserable duty), at any rate, that balloon was detected prob 1/2 way out in the Pacific, and, NORAD tracks things in inches and ounces so no surprise there either during the Canadian border crossing. Then the WH and media try to normalize this fiasco by stating the same thing happened under Trump, which the Director of National Intelligence and the head of NORAD at the time deny completely.

Another goat rope..

[cptlo306]

Problem is most people get their news from the nightly news or by reading headlines. The MSM will report about similar balloons during Trump's presidency without any proof and most people will believe it, thus effectively giving Brandon a pass.