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Big bob
01-19-2023, 11:07am
To be charged with involuntary manslaughter. :leaving:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-charged-manslaughter-fatal-shooting-set-rust-d-says-rcna7189
DJ_Critterus
01-19-2023, 11:08am
To be charged with involuntary manslaughter. :leaving:
Good.
04 commemorative
01-19-2023, 11:08am
he had the gun ,pointed at her,and gun went off
Aerovette
01-19-2023, 11:11am
And will NEVER see the inside of a cell.
Blademaker
01-19-2023, 11:12am
He won't be held accountable, he'll walk.
Unfortunately.
All it's gonna cost him is a shit ton of $$$$.
Mike Mercury
01-19-2023, 11:14am
https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED650/62282f6ecb649.jpeg
Big bob
01-19-2023, 11:15am
With the charges so far minimum 5 years.
Burro (He/Haw)
01-19-2023, 11:19am
As long as he says I’m sorry I’m good. That old gun had no business being there anyway as they’re very dangerous.
Onebadcad
01-19-2023, 11:26am
his defense will judge-shop a full-blown liberal tard, trial will be denied, buttface will receive an award from the state's judicial system for promoting movie production, depends joe will give him PMOF, will be our potus in two years and receive multiple nobel prizes.
04 commemorative
01-19-2023, 11:49am
So.... when is Rust supposed to be released:leaving:
1. Treat all guns as loaded.
https://media.patriots.win/post/UolBi2KdaeGS.jpeg
1. Treat all guns as loaded.
The gun only had two drinks. I swear!
Deserves a lifetime sentence just because he’s a pompous ass libtard. Lol.
Louie Detroit
01-19-2023, 12:30pm
I hope that TDS ridden bastard ends up in prison with a 300 pound black transgender cellmate who likes rough sex with California liberals. Give Alec the diversity his ilk are always virtue signaling about.
GTOguy
01-19-2023, 12:30pm
he had the gun ,pointed at her,and gun went off
Correction: He had the gun, pointed it at her, cocked it back all 4 clicks of the hammer sear, and pulled the trigger.
GTOguy
01-19-2023, 12:33pm
Trial big waste of taxpayer money. The production company hired a gun specialist responsible for the safety of prop guns. Gun safety person should be on trial, and a jury will agree.:seasix:
Armorer should be on trial, true. But you, as a licensed CCW gun owner should surely be aware that the responsibility of ANY gun that is fired is on the person who is in possession. It's the cardinal rule: Never, never, point the gun at anything you do NOT intend to shoot. And to point it, cock it, and pull the trigger? Give me a break.
Big bob
01-19-2023, 12:39pm
The weapons handler is being charged as well.:yesnod:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-01-19/alec-baldwin-charged-rust-movie-hannah-gutierrez-halls-involuntary-manslaughter
GTOguy
01-19-2023, 12:41pm
The weapons handler is being charged as well.:yesnod:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-01-19/alec-baldwin-charged-rust-movie-hannah-gutierrez-halls-involuntary-manslaughter
Wouldn't it be kickass if some of this could be pinned on Yadkin?:)
Big bob
01-19-2023, 12:43pm
He has enough problems. :sadangel:
since there is a remote chance that a jury trial will happen, and since i'm potentially callable as a juror, all i'm going to say is what i've already said.
he's entitled to a jury of his peers, and it's the burden of the state to prove his guilt.
Jughead
01-19-2023, 12:52pm
He'll get probation.
Louie Detroit
01-19-2023, 1:00pm
He may have never had any weapons training. A Gun loaded with blanks is going to look the same to him. Production company pays money to make sure no actual builds are in a gun. Who he was supposed to shoot on the next movie scene most likely would have been shot.
Typical liberal you are, always making excuses and pathetically attempting to shift blame. Face it, Baldwin is going down harder than Kamala Harris on the entire BBC contingent of the SF 49ers.
Loco Vette
01-19-2023, 1:02pm
To be charged with involuntary manslaughter. :leaving:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-charged-manslaughter-fatal-shooting-set-rust-d-says-rcna7189
I woulda lost that bet.
dvarapala
01-19-2023, 1:04pm
To be charged with involuntary manslaughter. :leaving:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-charged-manslaughter-fatal-shooting-set-rust-d-says-rcna7189
What about the armorer and the rest of the ****ups that contrinuted to this tragedy? What are they being charged with? :toetap:
He may have never had any weapons training. A Gun loaded with blanks is going to look the same to him. Production company pays money to make sure no actual builds are in a gun. Who he was supposed to shoot on the next movie scene most likely would have been shot.
Actor Alec Baldwin, a gun control activist
who accidentally shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza with a live round from a gun during filming of the movie "Rust," is the son of a high school riflery coach.
Loco Vette
01-19-2023, 1:06pm
He may have never had any weapons training. A Gun loaded with blanks is going to look the same to him. Production company pays money to make sure no actual builds are in a gun. Who he was supposed to shoot on the next movie scene most likely would have been shot.
Not only did he have every opportunity to get training, he was asked to do so and refused. He is culpable.
Baldwin ignored gun training request before shooting. (https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/13/alec-baldwin-ignored-gun-training-request-before-fatal-shooting-still-hasnt-turned-over-phone/)
Big bob
01-19-2023, 1:10pm
The weapons handler is being charged as well.:yesnod:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-01-19/alec-baldwin-charged-rust-movie-hannah-gutierrez-halls-involuntary-manslaughter
What about the armorer and the rest of the ****ups that contrinuted to this tragedy? What are they being charged with? :toetap:
:slap: :leaving:
Louie Detroit
01-19-2023, 1:10pm
Actor Alec Baldwin, a gun control activist
who accidentally shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza with a live round from a gun during filming of the movie "Rust," is the son of a high school riflery coach.
STS - maybe so but it was a pistol in this case. - STS
STS - maybe so but it was a pistol in this case. - STS
Dont hand me that shit I was a certified NRA firearms trainer for at least 25 years. Rifle, shot gun, handgun, combat hand gun (PPC) and instructor for the NYS pistol permit pre issue class Basic safety is basic safety!
Not only did he have every opportunity to get training, he was asked to do so and refused. He is culpable.
Baldwin ignored gun training request before shooting. (https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/13/alec-baldwin-ignored-gun-training-request-before-fatal-shooting-still-hasnt-turned-over-phone/)
and the armorer should have put her foot down and told him that until he completes proper training, he's not going to handle a gun while she is on set.
Not only did he have every opportunity to get training, he was asked to do so and refused. He is culpable.
Baldwin ignored gun training request before shooting. (https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/13/alec-baldwin-ignored-gun-training-request-before-fatal-shooting-still-hasnt-turned-over-phone/)
Much like StorytellerStealth, Baldwin is a liberal elitist and is far too important to be bothered with 'training'. That's for peasants. Poor folks. Losers.
The cool thing here is that STS, who boasts about his guns and CCW permit, doesn't know the golden rule of gun handling....something the rest of us picked up at age 8.
"The person handling the gun is responsible for the gun. Never point ANY gun, loaded or not, at ANYTHING you do not intend to shoot."
Period. There is no leeway. There is no excuse.
STS even wanted to know if it was ok to shoot para-sailors. Tells us all we need to know. He's a Coastal Liberal Elitist. :seasix:
and the armorer should have put her foot down and told him that until he completes proper training, he's not going to handle a gun while she is on set.
She was too busy getting another nose piercing. :)
Big bob
01-19-2023, 4:21pm
https://people.com/movies/rust-armorer-hannah-gutierrez-reed-speaks-out-about-charges/
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/nov/09/rust-shooting-alec-baldwin-calls-for-police-to-monitor-gun-safety-on-film-sets
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he had the gun ,pointed at her, [pulled the trigger] and gun went off
FIFY :kick:
markids77
01-19-2023, 9:04pm
and the armorer should have put her foot down and told him that until he completes proper training, he's not going to handle a gun while she is on set.
Looking at the photo a few posts up, it appears she doesn't even have enough sense not to point a gun at her own head. That single image would prevent me from hiring her to carry my luggage never mind ensure the safety of actors and crew.
markids77
01-19-2023, 9:06pm
STS - maybe so but it was a REVOLVER in this case. - STS
Fixt.
slewfoot
01-19-2023, 9:10pm
Trial big waste of taxpayer money. The production company hired a gun specialist responsible for the safety of prop guns. Gun safety person should be on trial, and a jury will agree.:seasix:
Wrongo, Baldwin was holding the gun and ultimately responsible but they will be able to prove without a doubt the gun can go off without pulling the trigger
Jughead
01-20-2023, 6:00am
When the DA was asked how much prison time they're seeking she said "prison isn't the question, it's that someone has to be accountable." WTF?
Frankie the Fink
01-20-2023, 6:46am
Actor Alec Baldwin, a gun control activist
who accidentally shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza with a live round from a gun during filming of the movie "Rust," is the son of a high school riflery coach.
So gun handling is in the DNA ? Who knew ?
There was an armorer on the set and the gun was supposedly declared cold and Baldwin is clearly no firearms guru. In certain situations one should expect to be able to trust an expert's assessment. I don't know how many times I've been in a gun store and a complete novice asks about a gun, the counter person will retrieve, clear and check the gun and hand it to the customer so they can see how it feels - even though the potential buyer doesn't know the basics or even how to check/clear a weapon yet. Not to excuse Baldwin but its a unique situation. I'm betting most actors aren't weapons experts even though they are action move stars.
He was the producer so there is certainly civil liability.
Tikiman
01-20-2023, 7:07am
So gun handling is in the DNA ? Who knew ?
There was an armorer on the set and the gun was supposedly declared cold and Baldwin is clearly no firearms guru. In certain situations one should expect to be able to trust an expert's assessment. I don't know how many times I've been in a gun store and a complete novice asks about a gun, the counter person will retrieve, clear and check the gun and hand it to the customer so they can see how it feels - even though the potential buyer doesn't know the basics or even how to check/clear a weapon yet. Not to excuse Baldwin but its a unique situation. I'm betting most actors aren't weapons experts even though they are action move stars.
He was the producer so there is certainly civil liability.
The pudgy Lolita was busy out back taking selfies of her new green and purple hair trying to boost her Instagram followers. She couldn't be bothered with actually doing her job.
Wrongo, Baldwin was holding the gun and ultimately responsible but they will be able to prove without a doubt the gun can go off without pulling the trigger
If the gun is operating properly, no, it can not. They would have to prove that the particular revolver used in the shooting had a major malfunction. This would fall to the armorer, as it was her job to make sure the weapons were functioning properly. It also does NOT absolve Baldwin of purposely pointing a gun at a member of the crew.
Tikiman
01-20-2023, 7:21am
The FBI tested the weapon thoroughly and stated in an affidavit that the gun could not have gone off without the trigger being pulled.
The douchenozzle, Baldwin, was getting pissy that Hutchins and the other guy were discussing re-shooting a scene and he was getting impatient. He said something to the effect of, "Maybe I should just shoot you" and he pointed the weapon at her, thumbed the hammer back, and pulled the trigger. He thought he was being funny. This story came out immediately after the shooting, but has since been scrubbed from the internet.
He knows exactly what he did, but like a true liberal, he cannot own up to his own ****ups. He has to try to place the blame elsewhere. Granted, there should not have been a live round in the weapon, so the valley girl "armorer" should be charged with criminal negligence as well. I hear she is a receptionist at a tattoo parlor now. Something she still is probably not qualified for, but at least perhaps nobody will die this time.
Big bob
01-20-2023, 10:11am
Seven camera crew members working on the film “Rust” walked off the set to protest a myriad of issues several hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot and killed a cinematographer, The Associated Press reported.
The news outlet, which spoke to one of the employees who walked off the job, said that crew members had complained about issues including accommodations for their housing and safety procedures. The AP noted that employee disputes had roiled the production of “Rust” since early October.
Mike Mercury
01-20-2023, 10:24am
Seven camera crew members working on the film “Rust” walked off the set to protest a myriad of issues several hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot and killed a cinematographer, The Associated Press reported.
this fact seems to be missing from a lot of news stories.
The pudgy Lolita was busy out back taking selfies of her new green and purple hair trying to boost her Instagram followers. She couldn't be bothered with actually doing her job.
Would like to see moar pics of........
that black Trans Am!
If Baldwin was an easy going and humble man I believe there would be some public sympathy for him in this situation.
But since he is such a fookin 1st rate arrogant loud mouth douche bag...
He deserves nothing but scorn and whatever the legal system can throw at him.
Tikiman
01-20-2023, 11:10am
Would like to see moar pics of........
that black Trans Am!
If it's a '75 it is only pushing 200 hp. Of course, that can be corrected.
GTOguy
01-20-2023, 12:34pm
The FBI tested the weapon thoroughly and stated in an affidavit that the gun could not have gone off without the trigger being pulled.
The douchenozzle, Baldwin, was getting pissy that Hutchins and the other guy were discussing re-shooting a scene and he was getting impatient. He said something to the effect of, "Maybe I should just shoot you" and he pointed the weapon at her, thumbed the hammer back, and pulled the trigger. He thought he was being funny. This story came out immediately after the shooting, but has since been scrubbed from the internet.
He knows exactly what he did, but like a true liberal, he cannot own up to his own ****ups. He has to try to place the blame elsewhere. Granted, there should not have been a live round in the weapon, so the valley girl "armorer" should be charged with criminal negligence as well. I hear she is a receptionist at a tattoo parlor now. Something she still is probably not qualified for, but at least perhaps nobody will die this time.
This, 100%. I read the same report before it was disappeared. And, having 50 years of experience with these pistols, have said before and will say again, they need to be manually cocked past all 3 sears to the 4th fire sear, and the trigger needs to be pulled to disengage the pawl from the sear so the hammer can fall and strike the primer. Saying 'the gun went off' is like saying my '61 Corvette started itself up, put itself into first gear, let out the clutch, and drove away, as I stood in horror on the curb and watched it. That, like the Colt pattern SSA firing itself, is a physical impossibility. A Colt pattern SSA is truly as 'manual' a gun as it gets. There is nothing 'automatic' about it that can cause discharge.
GTOguy
01-20-2023, 12:39pm
If it's a '75 it is only pushing 200 hp. Of course, that can be corrected.
It was net HP, 220 IIRC. So not that bad. Could be upped by 100HP by bolting on a set of '70 heads.
That said, close to 500 ft lbs of torque. Which is what gets it done on the street.
When we were teens in the '70's, no other production car even came close to these. Especially NOT the '74-'76 Corvette, which was one of the slowest cars on the road at the time.
This, 100%. I read the same report before it was disappeared. And, having 50 years of experience with these pistols, have said before and will say again, they need to be manually cocked past all 3 sears to the 4th fire sear, and the trigger needs to be pulled to disengage the pawl from the sear so the hammer can fall and strike the primer. Saying 'the gun went off' is like saying my '61 Corvette started itself up, put itself into first gear, let out the clutch, and drove away, as I stood in horror on the curb and watched it. That, like the Colt pattern SSA firing itself, is a physical impossibility. A Colt pattern SSA is truly as 'manual' a gun as it gets. There is nothing 'automatic' about it that can cause discharge.
do a search for Bob Munden. he was a fast trick shot artist, and he showed that he would hold the trigger back while fanning the hammer. bang, bang, bang.
doubt he used proper trigger discipline.
do a search for Bob Munden. he was a fast trick shot artist, and he showed that he would hold the trigger back while fanning the hammer. bang, bang, bang.
doubt he used proper trigger discipline.
Know all about Bob Munden. Even in his 70's he could shoot a single action Colt so fast he could hit two balloons 15 feet apart and it sounded like one shot. Munden was a world champion Trick Shooter. And doing crazy shit, safer than any anti-gun liberal with the gun still in the holster. A pro vs. an idiot. Apples and Oranges.
Gunfighters of the old west sometimes tied or wired back the trigger to the trigger guard so that they could 'fan' the hammer. The point is, the hammer has to be brought ALL the way back, and the trigger has to be pulled ALL the way back so the locking sears do NOT engage. Baldwin cocked the gun ALL the way and pulled the trigger ALL the way, with the gun pointed at the woman and he blew a hole through her and into the next guy with a 225-245 grain .45 Long Colt, which is one HELL of a damaging round.
Aerovette
01-20-2023, 3:53pm
The FBI tested the weapon thoroughly and stated in an affidavit that the gun could not have gone off without the trigger being pulled.
The douchenozzle, Baldwin, was getting pissy that Hutchins and the other guy were discussing re-shooting a scene and he was getting impatient. He said something to the effect of, "Maybe I should just shoot you" and he pointed the weapon at her, thumbed the hammer back, and pulled the trigger. He thought he was being funny. This story came out immediately after the shooting, but has since been scrubbed from the internet.
He knows exactly what he did, but like a true liberal, he cannot own up to his own ****ups. He has to try to place the blame elsewhere. Granted, there should not have been a live round in the weapon, so the valley girl "armorer" should be charged with criminal negligence as well. I hear she is a receptionist at a tattoo parlor now. Something she still is probably not qualified for, but at least perhaps nobody will die this time.
I don't think the video of the incident supports this part. There is video and it looks like an actual take, not an impromptu act.
Confirmed my post...
Alec Baldwin Shooting: New Video Shows CHILLING Aftermath - YouTube
Torqaholic
01-20-2023, 4:32pm
... I don't know how many times I've been in a gun store and a complete novice asks about a gun, the counter person will retrieve, clear and check the gun and hand it to the customer so they can see how it feels - even though the potential buyer doesn't know the basics or even how to check/clear a weapon yet... its a unique situation.
You're right, ignorance is no excuse. If the customer in your example pointed that gun at a person it would be taken away and he'd be kicked out of the store. There would be consequences and that's the least of them. Depending on who he aims it at he could up with new breathing hole because nobody else will suppose it to be empty.
Typical democrat, full of excuses.
I'm not responsible for her death.
I didn't point the gun.
I didn't pull the trigger.
We have seen jail for less.
Anjdog2003
01-20-2023, 8:36pm
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Torqaholic
01-21-2023, 2:49am
...the trigger needs to be pulled to disengage the pawl from the sear so the hammer can fall...
Not always the case. If those parts are badly worn the gun has a hair trigger condition and no longer needs a trigger to fire. It can be shot by applying thumb pressure to the rear of the hammer. With further wear the hammer would no longer lock back at all. The lower limit on trigger pull for this to occur doesn't even need to reach zero due to variables such as surface hardness/smoothness, spring pressure, and lubrication.
If the gun was inspected trigger pull weight is known. If truth isn't expendable that will be a key factor in the trial proving whether he did or did not pull the trigger.
I'll withhold judgment until hearing the facts. It's always possible (if not probable) that God decided to invoke karma on this man.
Louie Detroit
01-21-2023, 5:01am
Typical democrat, full of excuses.
I'm not responsible for her death.
I didn't point the gun.
I didn't pull the trigger.
We have seen jail for less.
This guy is the weirdest of the weird, and demonstrates the excuse ridden leftist brain.
https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1616451045244248064?cxt=HHwWgIC9yanq5O4sAAAA
Tikiman
01-21-2023, 7:13am
I don't think the video of the incident supports this part. There is video and it looks like an actual take, not an impromptu act.
Confirmed my post...
Alec Baldwin Shooting: New Video Shows CHILLING Aftermath - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj9BUiXKQfw&t=41s)
You are correct. The animation does not agree with the early stories that came out right after the incident. Leading me to believe that Baldwin was instrumental in that video and he got the others to go along with it. He is, after all, the boss and could destroy the careers of the actual witnesses.
So the asshole tried to cover it up.
DJ_Critterus
01-21-2023, 9:24am
If Baldwin was an easy going and humble man I believe there would be some public sympathy for him in this situation.
But since he is such a fookin 1st rate arrogant loud mouth douche bag...
He deserves nothing but scorn and whatever the legal system can throw at him.
IS it wrong that I hope he's the next "celebrity" to die?
Not always the case. If those parts are badly worn the gun has a hair trigger condition and no longer needs a trigger to fire. It can be shot by applying thumb pressure to the rear of the hammer. With further wear the hammer would no longer lock back at all. The lower limit on trigger pull for this to occur doesn't even need to reach zero due to variables such as surface hardness/smoothness, spring pressure, and lubrication.
If the gun was inspected trigger pull weight is known. If truth isn't expendable that will be a key factor in the trial proving whether he did or did not pull the trigger.
I'll withhold judgment until hearing the facts. It's always possible (if not probable) that God decided to invoke karma on this man.
Excellent explanation of what can go wrong in a revolver. The FBI report on the gun is already public. It says the gun is/was functioning properly.
Torqaholic
01-21-2023, 11:56am
So the asshole tried to cover it up.
:yesnod: Just like biden and the stolen classified docs.
GTOguy
01-21-2023, 12:35pm
Not always the case. If those parts are badly worn the gun has a hair trigger condition and no longer needs a trigger to fire. It can be shot by applying thumb pressure to the rear of the hammer. With further wear the hammer would no longer lock back at all. The lower limit on trigger pull for this to occur doesn't even need to reach zero due to variables such as surface hardness/smoothness, spring pressure, and lubrication.
If the gun was inspected trigger pull weight is known. If truth isn't expendable that will be a key factor in the trial proving whether he did or did not pull the trigger.
I'll withhold judgment until hearing the facts. It's always possible (if not probable) that God decided to invoke karma on this man.
Wrong-o. Facts have been presented. Gun was forensically examined and is in perfect condition. If you have ever had one of these pistols apart in your hands you would see that your theory doesn't hold water. :seasix:
Mike Mercury
01-21-2023, 3:42pm
If those parts are badly worn the gun has a hair trigger condition and no longer needs a trigger to fire
even in that case... it'd need to be cocked first (single action).
Aerovette
01-21-2023, 4:01pm
You are correct. The animation does not agree with the early stories that came out right after the incident. Leading me to believe that Baldwin was instrumental in that video and he got the others to go along with it. He is, after all, the boss and could destroy the careers of the actual witnesses.
I think you are saying Baldwin influenced the animation. The odd thing is that it's the lawyers for Hutchins that released the video. They CLEARLY show in the animation, that his finger is NOT on the trigger.
The actual video tells no lies and his finger clearly IS on the trigger.
Here is the animated version...
Lawyers Release 3D Animation Of Alleged Alec Baldwin Shooting - YouTube
my wife Linda was called for jury duty many years ago (Santa Fe County, same jurisdiction as applies to Mr. Baldwin), and after much fuss, one hold out resulted in a hung jury, and it didn't sound like the DA would try the case again (other priorities and money). From her recounting of the trial (just one day, thankfully), it sounded like the local police didn't do such a bang up job on securing the crime scene (victim's and accused house), resulting in the loss of evidence.
Hopefully, with all the attention this case has gotten and will get, they have their ducks in a row, as i'm sure the defense will challenge every piece of evidence that may tend to show Baldwin in poor light, as is their right and duty.
Excellent explanation of what can go wrong in a revolver. The FBI report on the gun is already public. It says the gun is/was functioning properly.
I wouldn't trust or believe anything the FBI said, even if it was about a parking ticket. The FBI should be on the Brady List.
Wrong-o. Facts have been presented. Gun was forensically examined and is in perfect condition. If you have ever had one of these pistols apart in your hands you would see that your theory doesn't hold water. :seasix:
Who did that investigation? Remember the McCluskeys in St. Louis, who defended their house from an invading blm mob? Remember what the prosecution did with the pistol Mrs. McCluskey was waving around? The non working pistol? They had it repaired, turning a non functioning prop pistol into one that could actually fire. If the Baldwin gun was turned over to the FBI, that qualifies as breaking the chain of custody in my book. Who knows what they did to the gun? Point is, you don't know, because they are proven untrustworthy, proven lawbreakers.
Aerovette
01-21-2023, 5:40pm
Who did that investigation? Remember the McCluskeys in St. Louis, who defended their house from an invading blm mob? Remember what the prosecution did with the pistol Mrs. McCluskey was waving around? The non working pistol? They had it repaired, turning a non functioning prop pistol into one that could actually fire. If the Baldwin gun was turned over to the FBI, that qualifies as breaking the chain of custody in my book. Who knows what they did to the gun? Point is, you don't know, because they are proven untrustworthy, proven lawbreakers.
I get your point Bill, but the gun was loaded and pointed while having live ammo in it. If it was being fired the night before, it would seem it wasn't very faulty that night.
Torqaholic
01-21-2023, 6:03pm
I get your point Bill, but the gun was loaded and pointed while having live ammo in it. If it was being fired the night before, it would seem it wasn't very faulty that night.
Heard there were 5 other live rounds on the set when the shooting happened. Not counting the one that was fired two were in possession of the other guy charged, one carried by the shooter, and a couple laying loose on top of some piece of equipment. They were loaded for bear.
Torqaholic
01-21-2023, 6:19pm
Wrong-o. Facts have been presented. Gun was forensically examined and is in perfect condition. If you have ever had one of these pistols apart in your hands you would see that your theory doesn't hold water. :seasix:
I was speaking from experience. Only thing I wondered about was the trigger pull weight. A safe gun is measured in pounds, an unsafe gun (especially in the hands of an untrained person) in ounces. Rainbows and unicorn farts don't beat numbers. Did they bother to define "perfect condition"? My definition would be a factory fresh gun and I don't believe that was the case.
Aerovette
04-20-2023, 3:28pm
Holy CHIT ! I just read that charges have been dropped and he will skate.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charges-alec-baldwin-dropped-fatal-rust-shooting-attorneys-say-rcna80722
Charges have been dropped against Alec Baldwin in the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of his Western movie "Rust," his lawyers said Thursday.
“We are pleased with the decision to dismiss the case against Alec Baldwin and we encourage a proper investigation into the facts and circumstances of this tragic accident,” according to a joint statement by Baldwin's lawyers Luke Nikas and Alex Spiro.
The office of New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies declined comment to NBC News on Thursday.
It was also unclear on Thursday if charges against co-defendant, and "Rust" armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed were still in play.
Aerovette
04-20-2023, 3:32pm
Take note liberals. This is exactly why us Conservatives fully comprehend that the actions of the courts and the election fraud evidence have zero connection. Truth and evidence mean nothing.
So Baldwin took the gun, didn't check it, pointed it at the woman, cocked the hammer back all 4 clicks to full cock, pulled the trigger, and shot her clear through with that .45 Colt. And severely injured the man behind her. And he skates. Un. ****ing. Real.
We are indeed doomed as a Nation. There is no justice.
So Baldwin took the gun, didn't check it, pointed it at the woman, cocked the hammer back all 4 clicks to full cock, pulled the trigger, and shot her clear through with that .45 Colt. And severely injured the man behind her. And he skates. Un. ****ing. Real.
We are indeed doomed as a Nation. There is no justice.
guess i don't have to worry about being called as a juror. yay.
slewfoot
04-20-2023, 5:11pm
The Prosecutors office also ****ed up a bit among themselves and would not have gone into or come out of this looking very good.
Don't put it all on $$$. Baldwin basically got a gift.
Local long time prominent attorney and commentator brought this up a while back.
Aerovette
04-20-2023, 5:23pm
The Prosecutors office also ****ed up a bit among themselves and would not have gone into or come out of this looking very good.
Don't put it all on $$$. Baldwin basically got a gift.
Local long time prominent attorney and commentator brought this up a while back.
$$$ to fk up a case can pay more than money to win one.
He's a rich, well connected lib. No surprise.
Libs blame everyone else except themselves. F this POS.
JRD77VET
04-20-2023, 7:13pm
Good thing we don't have a two tiered justice system :rolleyes:
It's a sad case, there's definitely negligence somewhere, but I think if I was the prosecutor on the case, I'd be swayed by the victim's family. Do they want Baldwin to go to prison for this, or do they see it as a terrible accident? If the family doesn't want blood, but simply money from a civil suit, I'd say their wishes either way should be honored. If they do want blood, I think it would be at worst, involuntary manslaughter.
It's a sad case, there's definitely negligence somewhere, but I think if I was the prosecutor on the case, I'd be swayed by the victim's family. Do they want Baldwin to go to prison for this, or do they see it as a terrible accident? If the family doesn't want blood, but simply money from a civil suit, I'd say their wishes either way should be honored. If they do want blood, I think it would be at worst, involuntary manslaughter.
He probably already forked over a suitcase to them, in exchange for them talking to the prosecutor, that they weren't interested in a trial.
04 commemorative
04-21-2023, 8:07am
Movie to start up again.....I for one will never watch it.
Tikiman
04-21-2023, 8:23am
Movie to start up again.....I for one will never watch it.
You think the thot will get her armorer job back? :rofl:
He won't be held accountable, he'll walk.
Unfortunately.
All it's gonna cost him is a shit ton of $$$$.
Shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, whoed a thunk it!
Frankie the Fink
04-21-2023, 8:30am
You think the thot will get her armorer job back? :rofl:
No, she's done - she didn't have the expertise nor experience for the job in the first place... Her next job will mostly be asking, "....do you want dipping sauce with that order?"
Aerovette
04-21-2023, 8:45am
In spite of all the testing done on the functionality of the gun, they have now miraculously concluded it had the trigger modified and replaced.
My ass.
Yadkin
04-21-2023, 10:27am
In spite of all the testing done on the functionality of the gun, they have now miraculously concluded it had the trigger modified and replaced.
My ass.
So what? It was loaded. And he aimed it. And he pulled the trigger.
Aerovette
04-21-2023, 10:29am
So what? It was loaded. And he aimed it. And he pulled the trigger.
I understand, but the basis of dropping the charges was this new information. I saw the video (not the animation) and his finger is absolutely on the trigger. He is guilty.
Yadkin
04-21-2023, 10:33am
You think the thot will get her armorer job back? :rofl:
That's nasty.
Aerovette
04-21-2023, 10:43am
I might not brag about it but...meh, I'd throw a dick in her. :island14:
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