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Louie Detroit
01-02-2023, 9:24pm
A player may just have died, things are confused right now.
Louie Detroit
01-02-2023, 9:30pm
I remember, as a kid, a Detroit lion player did on the field.:sadangel:
Yup - Chuck Hughes - I watched that one live too.
LisaJohn
01-02-2023, 9:30pm
Very scary.
TheRealBadger
01-02-2023, 9:36pm
9 minutes of CPR. Kid is 24.
NFL gonna play. That’s a pretty risky decision.
JRD77VET
01-02-2023, 9:37pm
9 minutes of CPR. Kid is 24.
NFL gonna play. That’s a pretty risky decision.
:sadangel:
So many questions
Louie Detroit
01-02-2023, 9:37pm
If I remember correctly, heart attack?
Yea - Dick Butkus was the guy who recognized it and frantically signaled the Lions team.
Yup - Chuck Hughes - I watched that one live too.
Heart attack. He was 28.
Louie Detroit
01-02-2023, 9:45pm
Did they continue the game?
Yea - the show must go on.
Black94lt1
01-02-2023, 9:49pm
Very sad situation :sadangel:
TheRealBadger
01-02-2023, 9:56pm
any updates?
Saw a tweet from a fox affiliate that said he had a pulse but wasn’t breathing on his own on the field. Needed AED and CPR.
Steve_R
01-02-2023, 9:57pm
any updates?
Not officially, but they’re packing up stuff on the sidelines and players from both teams are coming out of the locker rooms out of uniform. Game’s over for tonight.
No update on the player.
No announcement. Probably not good.
Louie Detroit
01-02-2023, 10:01pm
Game has been suspended for the night. Not sounding good. :sadangel:
JRD77VET
01-02-2023, 10:03pm
NFL requiring C19 vax? :sadangel:
Game is suspended for the evening
Aerovette
01-02-2023, 10:14pm
Probably no updates until morning. Nightly news is still 45 minutes away, so there may still be something tonight.
Wow. The player's reactions say a lot.
Anjdog2003
01-02-2023, 10:19pm
dhrSY_jORsE
Hope and pray he recovers.
We do not control our destiny.
NFL requiring C19 vax? :sadangel:
Yup.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-requiring-covid-19-booster-shots-by-dec-27
https://media.patriots.win/post/yBZb97PiC6ht.jpeg
Now would be a good time to kneel.
Louie Detroit
01-02-2023, 10:24pm
Now would be a good time to kneel.
The God Squad was.
TheRealBadger
01-02-2023, 10:24pm
Heard he’s been intubated. That could be good news.
bsmith
01-02-2023, 10:39pm
NFL requiring C19 vax? :sadangel:
It wasn't mandated, and I can tell you for a fact that Buffalo had one of the lowest vaccination rates in the league.
His fellow safety was one of the most outspoken players against the vaccine all along.
Cannot assume it was related to that.
I have a feeling it was an impact to the heart at just the right instant of his heartbeat, and caused cardiac arrest.
TheRealBadger
01-02-2023, 10:42pm
From his marketing rep:
His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests.
C3C7NIC
01-02-2023, 10:54pm
Hard chest hits can cause the heart to stop beating.
CPR would have been only way to help as AED (shock) only of benefit if heart beating too fast like with V fib or V tach.
So young, hope that falls in his favor for recovery.
Thought possibly he had a severed aorta or thoracic/pulmonary vessel, if severe, that is not survivable. Would have blood supply for only seconds then collapse like he did.
Didn’t appear hit affected his cervical spine but he did adjust his helmet, if spinal cord severed that could also explain his drop after standing.
Steve_R
01-02-2023, 10:55pm
From his marketing rep:
His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests.
That contradicts what every other source is saying. ESPN reporter at the hospital just said he has a heartbeat but can’t breathe on his own. He’s been intubated and is in critical condition.
bsmith
01-02-2023, 11:07pm
Hard chest hits can cause the heart to stop beating.
CPR would have been only way to help as AED (shock) only of benefit if heart beating too fast like with V fib or V tach.
So young, hope that falls in his favor for recovery.
Thought possibly he had a severed aorta or thoracic/pulmonary vessel, if severe, that is not survivable. Would have blood supply for only seconds then collapse like he did.
Didn’t appear hit affected his cervical spine but he did adjust his helmet, if spinal cord severed that could also explain his drop after standing.
I was thinking of Drew Bledsoes injury years ago.
TripleBlack
01-02-2023, 11:45pm
Piecing some things together... maybe incorrectly... but it sounds like the NFL said "play on" and the players said "nope"... If true I might even watch some NFL games. Been out of them for a good while.
I have actually seen a similar occurrence as a teenager. Youth hockey player took a slapper in the chest and crumbled. They did CPR for about 5 minutes and he was out the door, as we always had an ambulance on site for tournaments. No AED's in that era, but they were able to restart his heart with paddles at the hospital. Interestingly, due to the quick response, he was back on his feet in a week, and back on the ice in a month.
The condition has a name, Commotio Cardis (https://www.sportsmedtoday.com/commotio-cordis-va-88.htm). Hoping that this is the issue, as it's usually survivable.
Black94lt1
01-03-2023, 1:53am
Piecing some things together... maybe incorrectly... but it sounds like the NFL said "play on" and the players said "nope"... If true I might even watch some NFL games. Been out of them for a good while.
They appeared to absolutely put their foot down and say no way we are playing, both teams held a united front against the NFL
16again
01-03-2023, 5:09am
Reported as heart attack. Vitals are currently normal. No other news I see at the moment. :angel:
Reported as heart attack. Vitals are currently normal. No other news I see at the moment. :angel:
sedated and intubated.
9 minutes is a long time. :sadangel:
Torqaholic
01-03-2023, 9:05am
NFL requiring C19 vax? :sadangel:
Doesn't matter. According to a headline I saw a few hours ago only half the people believe this can injure. As if that's all the science anyone should need.
Mike Mercury
01-03-2023, 9:11am
just like when you fall/land funny and deflate both lungs.... there's a situation where one can squish all/most of the blood out of your heart, and it's difficult for it to restart and maintain proper blood pressure.
I looked at that tackle numerous times though, didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
just like when you fall/land funny and deflate both lungs.... there's a situation where one can squish all/most of the blood out of your heart, and it's difficult for it to restart and maintain proper blood pressure.
I looked at that tackle numerous times though, didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
It looked like a headshot to me. Even jarred his helmet off.
Could it be a head injury and the NLF is spinning it to avoid the concussion discussion?
Tikiman
01-03-2023, 10:17am
They appeared to absolutely put their foot down and say no way we are playing, both teams held a united front against the NFL
We're they kneeling at the time? :rofl:
bsmith
01-03-2023, 10:31am
Could it be a head injury and the NLF is spinning it to avoid the concussion discussion?
Seriously doubt that.
Not sure how this is a preferable story in any way.
I still think it was a blow to the chest at the right millisecond.
There's a chance it is vaccine related.
Unlikely that it was a preexisting condition, they are scanned and go through very detailed medical checks before the season starts.
In early 2020 a Bills player was diagnosed with myocarditis after having Covid (not the vaccine)
Heart conditions are being watched.
Seriously doubt that.
Not sure how this is a preferable story in any way.
I still think it was a blow to the chest at the right millisecond.
There's a chance it is vaccine related.
Unlikely that it was a preexisting condition, they are scanned and go through very detailed medical checks before the season starts.
In early 2020 a Bills player was diagnosed with myocarditis after having Covid (not the vaccine)
Heart conditions are being watched.
I’m pretty sure a heart attack plays better in the press than a head injury/concussion.
Aerovette
01-03-2023, 10:42am
It looked like a headshot to me. Even jarred his helmet off.
Could it be a head injury and the NLF is spinning it to avoid the concussion discussion?
I didn't see that. :island14:
I didn't see that. :island14:
I don’t think the helmet can completely off.
Aerovette
01-03-2023, 10:51am
I don’t think the helmet can completely off.
I think it was his hair flipping up behind his helmet.
Mike Mercury
01-03-2023, 10:52am
it sounds like the NFL said "play on" and the players said "nope"...
that's being said a lot; but I can find ant evidence of it.
Aerovette
01-03-2023, 10:54am
that's being said a lot; but I can find ant evidence of it.
I heard it was the coaches that wanted to stop and Goodell was then contacted and agreed.
bsmith
01-03-2023, 10:58am
The NFL is claiming that restarting the game was never discussed, and the 5-minute warmup was not from the league.
I think the coaches and players prevented the NFL from making a massive mistake...if only from a PR respective.
They also claim that there have been no discussions how they plan to proceed.
I think both are bullshit
Raazor
01-03-2023, 11:11am
The NFL is claiming that restarting the game was never discussed, and the 5-minute warmup was not from the league.
I think the coaches and players prevented the NFL from making a massive mistake...if only from a PR respective.
They also claim that there have been no discussions how they plan to proceed.
I think both are bullshit
I agree. I imagine that this is ALL that's been discussed for the past 14 hours.
I think it was his hair flipping up behind his helmet.
I went back and watched it. I believe you are correct.
slewfoot
01-03-2023, 11:18am
:sadangel:
So many questions
NFL requiring C19 vax? :sadangel:
I see you made up your own. :rolleyes:
VatorMan
01-03-2023, 11:28am
The NFL is claiming that restarting the game was never discussed, and the 5-minute warmup was not from the league.
I think the coaches and players prevented the NFL from making a massive mistake...if only from a PR respective.
They also claim that there have been no discussions how they plan to proceed.
I think both are bullshit
Well, to think you can plan for everything is unbelievable. I have no issue how this was handled. I knew it was extremely serious when they stated showing players faces. There’s only so much you can ask a human to do- especially if it’s just for $. This wasn’t combat.
I do believe the only time a player died on the field was in Detroit. Found it.
https://www.news4jax.com/sports/2023/01/03/remembering-chuck-hughes-the-only-nfl-player-to-die-on-the-field-during-a-game/#:~:text=Remembering%20former%20Lions%20WR%20Chuck,the%20field%20during%20a%20game
They did finish the game tho.
Well, to think you can plan for everything is unbelievable. I have no issue how this was handled. I knew it was extremely serious when they stated showing players faces. There’s only so much you can ask a human to do- especially if it’s just for $. This wasn’t combat.
I do believe the only time a player died on the field was in Detroit. Found it.
https://www.news4jax.com/sports/2023/01/03/remembering-chuck-hughes-the-only-nfl-player-to-die-on-the-field-during-a-game/#:~:text=Remembering%20former%20Lions%20WR%20Chuck,the%20field%20during%20a%20game
They did finish the game tho.
Much less (or any) scrutiny or political correctness in the 1970's.
Onebadcad
01-03-2023, 11:43am
Bills fans are good people, last evening they got the word out to donate to Hamlin's Toy Drive Charity, now nearing $4M, https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive , I believe most of monies donated in the last 15 hours.
bsmith
01-03-2023, 11:45am
Bills fans are good people, last evening they got the word out to donate to Hamlin's Toy Drive Charity, now nearing $4M, https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive , I believe most of monies donated in the last 15 hours.
the fund was started in 2020, and was at $32k yesterday.
if they are sane, the game is over, final score 7-3.
Louie Detroit
01-03-2023, 12:23pm
Much less (or any) scrutiny or political correctness in the 1970's.
Just much less media, I watched the Chuck Hughes game in 1971 (on TV) and after he collapsed they eventually took him off the field and then away in an amba-lamps. The game went on because they didn't have 16 different angles of the man collapsing to dwell on. Ten's of thousands of people spend much time, effort and money to attend a complete football game, and they got it.
Onebadcad
01-03-2023, 12:31pm
At $4.1M now
bsmith
01-03-2023, 12:33pm
Just much less media, I watched the Chuck Hughes game in 1971 (on TV) and after he collapsed they eventually took him off the field and then away in an amba-lamps. The game went on because they didn't have 16 different angles of the man collapsing to dwell on. Ten's of thousands of people spend much time, effort and money to attend a complete football game, and they got it.
:iagree:
video was all over social media within minutes.
RMVette
01-03-2023, 12:34pm
if they are sane, the game is over, final score 7-3.
:iagree:
Anjdog2003
01-03-2023, 1:42pm
Listening to the commentators took me about 2 minutes to turn off. I hope for the best for the young man but the Media makes me sick with their phony sad faces and acting like they really cared. Right after that they all went out for a drink and had a good time.
Too bad soldiers that actually died and weren't making millions of dollars couldn't get that phony ass somber look from the media when we lost a soldier.
Mike Mercury
01-03-2023, 1:51pm
I heard it was the coaches that wanted to stop and Goodell was then contacted and agreed.
but that's nothing like the "CNN" version going around. Apparently some controversy was needed...
Vette40th
01-03-2023, 1:54pm
I am late to this thread. I hope he is alright. That hit didnt look any different than most. But when his arms dropped and he fell, that was freaky.
Aerovette
01-03-2023, 2:13pm
but that's nothing like the "CNN" version going around. Apparently some controversy was needed...
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6 Shooter
01-03-2023, 6:55pm
So what’s next after the NFL pulled the plug during last night's game 🤔
https://www.footballzebras.com/2023/01/how-does-the-nfl-handle-a-suspended-game
JRD77VET
01-03-2023, 7:20pm
Doesn't matter. According to a headline I saw a few hours ago only half the people believe this can injure. As if that's all the science anyone should need.
I see you made up your own. :rolleyes:
I guess this is bullshit too then :rolleyes:
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 8:42pm
I guess this is bullshit too then :rolleyes:
You actually got hooked :rofl:
I guess this is bullshit too then :rolleyes:
Strange, that person doesn't exist on Twitter through their search.
You actually got hooked :rofl:
Correlation does not always equal causation......but sometimes it does. As time goes by and more and more young, healthy people start developing blood clots, myocarditis, Bell's palsy, heart attacks, and the "died suddenlys," eventually you may say, "gee, I don't remember so many people dying like this ever in my life."
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 8:55pm
Correlation does not always equal causation......but sometimes it does. As time goes by and more and more young, healthy people start developing blood clots, myocarditis, Bell's palsy, heart attacks, and the "died suddenlys," eventually you may say, "gee, I don't remember so many people dying like this ever in my life."
What does that have to do with my post? Nothing.
As for your supposition, it’s an interesting theory. Not remotely backed up by any factual evidence, but interesting nonetheless.
And then, the aliens came and replicated our bodies and purged the earth of evil. That theory is out there too.
JRD77VET
01-03-2023, 9:03pm
You actually got hooked :rofl:
You believe all the lies you're being fed about the jab with their "safe" boosters.
Go do your own research , really dig into what is really happening with all the BS we're being fed. Don't use google or yahoo, you'll need a neutral search engine. Use a proxy to access other countries.
It's just a coincidence we have fuel shortages, food shortages, medicine shortages etc.
It's just perfectly normal NOW for folks to just develop blood clots, drop dead, heart conditions , Bells Palsy and a lot of other conditions.
Keep drinking that deep state koolaide you fool. :seeya:
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:06pm
You believe all the lies you're being fed about the jab with their "safe" boosters.
Go do your own research , really dig into what is really happening with all the BS we're being fed. Don't use google or yahoo, you'll need a neutral search engine. Use a proxy to access other countries.
It's just a coincidence we have fuel shortages, food shortages, medicine shortages etc.
It's just perfectly normal NOW for folks to just develop blood clots, drop dead, heart conditions , Bells Palsy and a lot of other conditions.
Keep drinking that deep state koolaide you fool. :seeya:
I didn’t say anything about that, but quoting a fake Twitter page who is clearly NOT his Dr is just too funny. TOO FUNNY.
As for the rest, I guarantee I’ve had a lot more research done than you.
JRD77VET
01-03-2023, 9:09pm
I didn’t say anything about that, but quoting a fake Twitter page who is clearly NOT his Dr is just too funny. TOO FUNNY.
As for the rest, I guarantee I’ve had a lot more research done than you.
Just keep your head in the sand :seasix:
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:11pm
Just keep your head in the sand :seasix:
I can’t, you’re taking up all the space.
Listening to the commentators took me about 2 minutes to turn off. I hope for the best for the young man but the Media makes me sick with their phony sad faces and acting like they really cared. Right after that they all went out for a drink and had a good time.
Too bad soldiers that actually died and weren't making millions of dollars couldn't get that phony ass somber look from the media when we lost a soldier.
Yes. I watched it "too long," waiting for some news on his medical condition and what actually happened to him. The robotic talking heads were pathetic, no matter who was on, they all said the same thing. It's amazing how many atheists are willing (to say) they are praying in public.
No replays with analysis on what might have happened as we usually get. WTF?
After the first few minutes, the first thing that came to mind was did he get the clot shot? How many vaxxed athletes have we seen the in the past year collapse and die? How many NON FAMOUS people have done the same thing? Of course the woke sports media/culture would never ask the question.
The Gates/Schwab WEF depopulation agenda is going along as planned. How many young people have had their fertility damaged, which won't come to light for some years yet?
And of course, none of this will ever be openly attributed to the mandated clot shots -- despite massive global evidence.
https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=336&pictureid=3409
JRD77VET
01-03-2023, 9:18pm
I can’t, you’re taking up all the space.
You silly fool.
Step away from the "news". Real life, what's going on? Know anyone with heart conditions is the past few years? Blood clots?
How about Biden. Look up pictures of him before 2016 and compare them to current pictures. Look at the ears, jaw structure and lips. DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
Real life is out there, YOU just need to notice it.
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:20pm
You silly fool.
Step away from the "news". Real life, what's going on? Know anyone with heart conditions is the past few years? Blood clots?
How about Biden. Look up pictures of him before 2016 and compare them to current pictures. Look at the ears, jaw structure and lips. DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
Real life is out there, YOU just need to notice it.
You are the fool making up stuff.
I don’t know what “news” you are talking about.
Biden is old. It happens.
I still can’t believe Trump would unleash such a terrible vaccine on everyone.
I didn’t say anything about that, but quoting a fake Twitter page who is clearly NOT his Dr is just too funny. TOO FUNNY.
As for the rest, I guarantee I’ve had a lot more research done than you.
If your research leads you to believe that you will benefit from being on the Pfizer shot-of-the-quarter plan for life, more power to you. You do you. Get all the shots you want! I'd just respectfully ask that you don't keep trying to force all that on me and others who do not want it. We don't want it. We're not going to suddenly see the light and start wanting it at some point in the future. We survived not only the virus, but also the threats, intimidation, job threats, travel threats, being treated like pariahs, being set upon by true believer friends and relatives, etc. We survived all that, the maximum pressure campaign, and we're still here....purebloods.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-at-least-769-recently-vaxxed-athletes-collapsed-last-year-during-competition/
Report: At Least 769 Recently Vaxxed Athletes Collapsed Last Year During Competition
**|**
Bo Banks
Jan 3, 2023
One of the underlying stories of 2022 is the enormous number of professional athletes – primarily men with an average age of 23 – collapsing during competition.*
Though many of these instances have been documented in singular reports. Mainstream media outlets appear reluctant to link this unprecedented surge in collapses to the Covid-19 jab. Or to even bother asking follow up questions as to why or how this is happening.
This is especially suspicious considering the majority of these collapsing instances involved recently vaccinated and or boosted athletes.*
One America News Network (OAN) did some digging and discovered more than 769 athletes have collapsed on the field during a game from March 2021 to March 2022.
As outlined by The Defender, this spike “in cardiac arrest and other heart issues among elite athletes coincides with the rollout of COVID-19 jabs.”
Pearson Sharp of OAN asks:
How many 23-year-old athletes were collapsing and suffering heart attacks before this year? Do you know any 23-year-old people who had heart attacks before now? And these are just the ones we know about. How many have gone unreported?*
Nearly 800 athletes — young, fit people in the prime of life — falling down on the field. In fact, 500% more soccer players in the EU are dropping dead from heart attacks than just one year ago.
Sharp discussed how this unprecedented surge is not a coincidence. Especially because “the Pfizer vaccine is known to cause heart inflammation.”
He also alluded to the fact this number may be grossly underreported.*
The reason for these unreliable figures stems from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) showing only between 1 and 10% of adverse reactions according to past investigations.
Kyle Warner, for example, is an athlete who filed a VAERS report about his own health injuries following the COVID-19 jab.*
As Dr. Joseph Mercola put it; the filing took Warner 45 minutes – “a length of time that many doctors can’t or won’t devote when it comes to reporting adverse vaccine reactions seen among their patients.”
Regardless, elite athletes collapsing in game increased so much in 2022 that even a mainstream media sports channel in Australia has speculated that the health issues could be linked to COVID-19 shots.
This is from a main stream sports channel in Australia pic.twitter.com/HJHWAlEpRg
— Luke Rudkowski (@Lukewearechange) April 11, 2022
As this number steadily grows, mainstream outlets appear to be ignoring these collapses and their potential linkage to the Covd-19 vaccine.*
At the same time, the White House and other institutions continue pushing for more to take the experimental jab and get boosted.
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:23pm
If your research leads you to believe that you will benefit from being on the Pfizer shot-of-the-quarter plan for life, more power to you. You do you. Get all the shots you want! I'd just respectfully ask that you don't keep trying to force all that on me and others who do not want it. We don't want it. We're not going to suddenly see the light and start wanting it at some point in the future. We survived not only the virus, but also the threats, intimidation, job threats, travel threats, being treated like pariahs, being set upon by true believer friends and relatives, etc. We survived all that, the maximum pressure campaign, and we're still here....purebloods.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-at-least-769-recently-vaxxed-athletes-collapsed-last-year-during-competition/
In all your link happiness, including coincidental stories, maybe you can show me where I ever shoved it down your throat and made you take it. I’ll wait while you show me where I have ever said you should get it.
You people are so afraid you even make up people allegedly forcing you to do something they never actually did. Stop being afraid. Damn. Try to think for yourself instead of reading the propaganda.
JRD77VET
01-03-2023, 9:25pm
You are the fool making up stuff.
I don’t know what “news” you are talking about.
Biden is old. It happens.
I still can’t believe Trump would unleash such a terrible vaccine on everyone.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Good luck with your blinders, you'll fall right in line and make the deep state proud.
Steve_R
01-03-2023, 9:28pm
In all your link happiness, including coincidental stories, maybe you can show me where I ever shoved it down your throat and made you take it. I’ll wait while you show me where I have ever said you should get it.
You people are so afraid you even make up people allegedly forcing you to do something they never actually did. Stop being afraid. Damn. Try to think for yourself instead of reading the propaganda.
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TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:29pm
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You handing out all the drinks?
In all your link happiness, including coincidental stories, maybe you can show me where I ever shoved it down your throat and made you take it. I’ll wait while you show me where I have ever said you should get it.
You people are so afraid you even make up people allegedly forcing you to do something they never actually did. Stop being afraid. Damn. Try to think for yourself instead of reading the propaganda.
OK, I apologize for stating YOU personally are trying to coerce us. I accept your statement you never desired to have the unwilling forced to be injected. But we, the holdouts, have been subject to a coordinated coercion campaign....here's an abbreviated highlight reel of that:
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1610342226512551937
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:34pm
OK, I apologize for stating YOU personally are trying to coerce us. I accept your statement you never desired to have the unwilling forced to be injected. But we, the holdouts, have been subject to a coordinated coercion campaign....here's an abbreviated highlight reel of that:
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1610342226512551937
You forgot the reels of Trump who not only said his vaccine was perfectly safe, but it is patriotic to take it. And when he got his shot first in line and then his booster.
I have no idea what Biden has said. He’s hard to understand.
Steve_R
01-03-2023, 9:37pm
You handing out all the drinks?
Only good single malt Scotch. :shots:
You are the fool making up stuff.
I don’t know what “news” you are talking about.
Biden is old. It happens.
I still can’t believe Trump would unleash such a terrible vaccine on everyone.
Trump had the best of intentions, but got bamboozled by his "experts." And he's too damn stubborn to admit that the "warp speed" "vaccines" were a big failure. Even when his own supportive crowds boo him when he brags about the Warp Speed project, Trump STILL doesn't seem to get it. He's tone deaf in this regard.
In the beginning, many were willing to "trust the science" and believe in the injections, but gradually, lots of folks got off that train. For me, I took a wait and see attitude right up until the Floyd riots, when all those medical professionals who previously told us it was unsafe to gather, even outside, ever, suddenly reversed course and told us it was perfectly safe and OK to riot for the blm. That's the moment I knew this was all total bullshit. And when HCQ and Ivermectin were both villified and labeled as "Unsafe at Any Speed" certain death drugs, despite their very long track record of being safe, that just confirmed what I already decided.....not to trust the propaganda.
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 9:46pm
Trump had the best of intentions, but got bamboozled by his "experts." And he's too damn stubborn to admit that the "warp speed" "vaccines" were a big failure. Even when his own supportive crowds boo him when he brags about the Warp Speed project, Trump STILL doesn't seem to get it. He's tone deaf in this regard.
In the beginning, many were willing to "trust the science" and believe in the injections, but gradually, lots of folks got off that train. For me, I took a wait and see attitude right up until the Floyd riots, when all those medical professionals who previously told us it was unsafe to gather, even outside, ever, suddenly reversed course and told us it was perfectly safe and OK to riot for the blm. That's the moment I knew this was all total bullshit. And when HCQ and Ivermectin were both villified and labeled as "Unsafe at Any Speed" certain death drugs, despite their very long track record of being safe, that just confirmed what I already decided.....not to trust the propaganda.
You think a great leader and one of the smartest people in the world woild get bamboozled? For nearly two years? Wow, you must not think much of him as a great leader.
You forgot the reels of Trump who not only said his vaccine was perfectly safe, but it is patriotic to take it. And when he got his shot first in line and then his booster.
I have no idea what Biden has said. He’s hard to understand.
Bolded: Fair assessment. Note he didn't coerce Americans with threats to be injected. That was all the replacement guy.
Unbolded: Biden promised us, the purebloods, a Winter of Death. He also said his patience towards us was wearing thin. I mean, sure, that's not threatening at all. Especially when followed up by that dark Nazi style speech in low red light where he called half of America threats. Lots of other stuff that was unintelligible garbage, though, yes.
You think a great leader and one of the smartest people in the world woild get bamboozled? For nearly two years? Wow, you must not think much of him as a great leader.
I think he had good policies over all, best in my lifetime, better than Reagan, and at the same time can acknowledge his many failures, including some horrific staffing picks. His initial support of coming out with a vaccine to shut up all the Chicken Littles who were insisting on destroying our economy made sense at the time. "Here! Here is some shit you can inject so you can stop being pussies and start living life again!" He really would have had no way of knowing the injections were increasingly ineffective and came with so much risk of harm. I can't fault early Trump for that, I can only fault present day Trump for not admitting it didn't all work out like he anticipated and hoped.
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 10:02pm
Bolded: Fair assessment. Note he didn't coerce Americans with threats to be injected. That was all the replacement guy.
Unbolded: Biden promised us, the purebloods, a Winter of Death. He also said his patience towards us was wearing thin. I mean, sure, that's not threatening at all. Especially when followed up by that dark Nazi style speech in low red light where he called half of America threats. Lots of other stuff that was unintelligible garbage, though, yes.
None of that is really relevant. I don’t care what Biden said. I actually don’t care what Trump said. I care what my advisors have said with facts, data and real experience. Not fear and political posturing.
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 10:04pm
I think he had good policies over all, best in my lifetime, better than Reagan, and at the same time can acknowledge his many failures, including some horrific staffing picks. His initial support of coming out with a vaccine to shut up all the Chicken Littles who were insisting on destroying our economy made sense at the time. "Here! Here is some shit you can inject so you can stop being pussies and start living life again!" He really would have had no way of knowing the injections were increasingly ineffective and came with so much risk of harm. I can't fault early Trump for that, I can only fault present day Trump for not admitting it didn't all work out like he anticipated and hoped.
Of course he knew that it had risk of harm. OF COURSE he did. It literally exists in every single vaccine or treatment ever created by man. Every, single, one.
Mike Mercury
01-03-2023, 10:11pm
I have no idea what Biden has said. He’s hard to understand.
CNN will interpret.
Of course he knew that it had risk of harm. OF COURSE he did. It literally exists in every single vaccine or treatment ever created by man. Every, single, one.
I don't disagree. I also don't think most folks knew the EXTENT of the risk of harm, including Trump. And in a normal world, after so many VAERS reports, the injections would have been pulled from the market just like the swine flu injections, but this time, that didn't happen. The folks responsible for pulling it, revoking the EUA...didn't. They either got paid, or got threatened, or possibly, some combination thereof. I do agree that in the end, the buck stops with Trump, and again with Brandon. The only thing I can say in Trump's defense is, very few folks had been injected at the time Trump was deposed. So we didn't really understand the problem, or the scope of the problem, at that time.
And keep in mind we're looking at this thing with 20/20 hindsight. In those early chaotic days, nobody really knew what we were dealing with, or how to deal with it. I can give most a pass for taking chances and doing what they thought best. Now? Now we know more about both the the "unapproved" treatment regimens, and the injections. Now we should be doing better, but Brandon, the MSM and all the cheerleading cabal have just doubled down on "take more injections." I think that's objectively wrong. I don't own Pfizer stock, though.
bsmith
01-03-2023, 10:29pm
I guess this is bullshit too then :rolleyes:
Actually, it is...
Strange, that person doesn't exist on Twitter through their search.
I found it earlier.
This is his profile:
"Artist, Data Scientist, Disinfo/deception/fraud detector, Democracy Enjoyer. Politics and news commentator. Proudly Jewish"
Doesn't sound like someone that would be giving shot to pro athletes.
The NFL stopped their bullshit treatment of unvaccinated players.
He may well have been vaccinated initially, but I seriously doubt he got the booster last week.
TheRealBadger
01-03-2023, 10:34pm
I don't disagree. I also don't think most folks knew the EXTENT of the risk of harm, including Trump. And in a normal world, after so many VAERS reports, the injections would have been pulled from the market just like the swine flu injections, but this time, that didn't happen. The folks responsible for pulling it, revoking the EUA...didn't. They either got paid, or got threatened, or possibly, some combination thereof. I do agree that in the end, the buck stops with Trump, and again with Brandon. The only thing I can say in Trump's defense is, very few folks had been injected at the time Trump was deposed. So we didn't really understand the problem, or the scope of the problem, at that time.
And keep in mind we're looking at this thing with 20/20 hindsight. In those early chaotic days, nobody really knew what we were dealing with, or how to deal with it. I can give most a pass for taking chances and doing what they thought best. Now? Now we know more about both the the "unapproved" treatment regimens, and the injections. Now we should be doing better, but Brandon, the MSM and all the cheerleading cabal have just doubled down on "take more injections." I think that's objectively wrong. I don't own Pfizer stock, though.
Finally, at least some rational thoughts.
Peace.
Louie Detroit
01-03-2023, 11:00pm
Hey, can we please get it back to football?
Hey, can we please get it back to football?
I pray Mr Hamlin pulls through.
Anjdog2003
01-03-2023, 11:23pm
Hey, can we please get it back to football?
Nice HiJack Louie
You forgot the reels of Trump who not only said his vaccine was perfectly safe, but it is patriotic to take it. And when he got his shot first in line and then his booster.
I have no idea what Biden has said. He’s hard to understand.
English a second language? Ok weezie. :lol:
Trump had the best of intentions, but got bamboozled by his "experts." And he's too damn stubborn to admit that the "warp speed" "vaccines" were a big failure. Even when his own supportive crowds boo him when he brags about the Warp Speed project, Trump STILL doesn't seem to get it. He's tone deaf in this regard.
In the beginning, many were willing to "trust the science" and believe in the injections, but gradually, lots of folks got off that train. For me, I took a wait and see attitude right up until the Floyd riots, when all those medical professionals who previously told us it was unsafe to gather, even outside, ever, suddenly reversed course and told us it was perfectly safe and OK to riot for the blm. That's the moment I knew this was all total bullshit. And when HCQ and Ivermectin were both villified and labeled as "Unsafe at Any Speed" certain death drugs, despite their very long track record of being safe, that just confirmed what I already decided.....not to trust the propaganda.
Or, he’s in on it? :yesnod:
None of that is really relevant. I don’t care what Biden said. I actually don’t care what Trump said. I care what my advisors have said with facts, data and real experience. Not fear and political posturing.
Who are your advisors? I’d like to access those “facts, data and real experience”. :yesnod:
TheRealBadger
01-04-2023, 9:33am
Who are your advisors? I’d like to access those “facts, data and real experience”. :yesnod:
Why would I give you access to something that costs me millions? And why would you even want it? You seem to have your own “experts”
Why would I give you access to something that costs me millions? And why would you even want it? You seem to have your own “experts”
Sure. :lol:
You fool, you must not have read the obituary section of the newspapers when they had newspapers. Every day, the San Francisco paper had young people dying of heart attacks and blood clots in the newspaper. If Jim Fixx died today it would have been the vaccine, according to you fools.
Jim Fixx had terrible family history of heart disease, and a long personal history of obesity. He died at 52 of a heart attack, which given the situation, was neither all that surprising then, nor would it be for someone similarly situated today. Bad example.
Tikiman
01-04-2023, 10:53am
Hey, can we please get it back to football?
You bet. :thumbs:
Murray
01-04-2023, 11:02am
You bet. :thumbs:
You Know you’re stupid when you have to rely on Crazy lady for your memes :rofl: :rofl:
You Know you’re stupid when you have to rely on Crazy lady for your memes :rofl: :rofl:
Sure.
guy takes firework instead of lighter - YouTube
:rofl:
Aerovette
01-04-2023, 12:55pm
^^^ Damn funny !
Tikiman
01-04-2023, 1:38pm
You Know you’re stupid when you have to rely on Crazy lady for your memes :rofl: :rofl:
A good meme is a good meme, no matter where it comes from. Hell, if you ever posted anything worthwhile up, I might even vader one from you.
Onebadcad
01-04-2023, 2:03pm
Of course he knew that it had risk of harm. OF COURSE he did. It literally exists in every single vaccine or treatment ever created by man. Every, single, one.
Agree,,, Trump as POTUS said what was required from the POTUS, BUT he should, as the man, thought about the ramifications, as all vaccines have risk, and the risks at that time were not known.
Trump would be criticized greatly by the left for any decision, including this, so he made the statement that was most presidential.
Remember at the time the vaccine came out, most in this country lived in great fear each day that contracting the disease would kill them.
We are playing Monday Morning QB here,,,
Still on topic, how many who got the first two jabs, have opted for the boosters, and if so, did they get all three??
16again
01-04-2023, 2:26pm
Agree,,, Trump as POTUS said what was required from the POTUS, BUT he should, as the man, thought about the ramifications, as all vaccines have risk, and the risks at that time were not known.
Trump would be criticized greatly by the left for any decision, including this, so he made the statement that was most presidential.
Remember at the time the vaccine came out, most in this country lived in great fear each day that contracting the disease would kill them.
We are playing Monday Morning QB here,,,
Still on topic, how many who got the first two jabs, have opted for the boosters, and if so, did they get all three??Got the 1st 2, no booster. With THOUSANDS of people every week. 21 of my coworkers got the virus, 1 home now for 3rd time. I'm still China Virus free. :yesnod:
TheRealBadger
01-04-2023, 2:52pm
Agree,,, Trump as POTUS said what was required from the POTUS, BUT he should, as the man, thought about the ramifications, as all vaccines have risk, and the risks at that time were not known.
Trump would be criticized greatly by the left for any decision, including this, so he made the statement that was most presidential.
Remember at the time the vaccine came out, most in this country lived in great fear each day that contracting the disease would kill them.
We are playing Monday Morning QB here,,,
Still on topic, how many who got the first two jabs, have opted for the boosters, and if so, did they get all three??
Get all three what? Boosters? Has there been enough time for a third booster shot?
Anjdog2003
01-04-2023, 3:41pm
Me, No shots no mask no Covid.
Neighbors had shots wore mask and some have had covid 2-3 times.
The last 100 years People got the FLU shot every year and still got the flu.
Agree,,, Trump as POTUS said what was required from the POTUS, BUT he should, as the man, thought about the ramifications, as all vaccines have risk, and the risks at that time were not known.
Trump would be criticized greatly by the left for any decision, including this, so he made the statement that was most presidential.
Remember at the time the vaccine came out, most in this country lived in great fear each day that contracting the disease would kill them.
We are playing Monday Morning QB here,,,
Still on topic, how many who got the first two jabs, have opted for the boosters, and if so, did they get all three??
I have to disagree with the bolded, at least in my AO. There were no bodies, not enough to declare a Pandemic like the Spanish Flu. Not even close, historically speaking.
I think most people were afraid of the government and their army of cowardly, idiotic liberals, not the WuFlu.
JRD77VET
01-04-2023, 8:36pm
You actually got hooked :rofl:
Strange, that person doesn't exist on Twitter through their search.
Tik Tok
Hey Badger, I guess this is bullshit too?
TheRealBadger
01-04-2023, 8:48pm
Tik Tok
Hey Badger, I guess this is bullshit too?
What about it?
Some guy posting something about nothing not actually attributable to anyone.
Whooooaaaaa! Stop the presses!
You people live in so much fear.
JRD77VET
01-04-2023, 8:59pm
What about it?
Some guy posting something about nothing not actually attributable to anyone.
Whooooaaaaa! Stop the presses!
You people live in so much fear.
No , far from fear.
I got sick as a dog back in Dec 2019. Probably covid before it was "official". No shots, no masks and guess what? I haven't gotten sick thru this deep state shit show.
My Mom got her shots and booster. Blood clots damn near killed her. Tom at work got the shots, has heart problems now. Paul ex wife made him get the shots to see his kids. Dropped dead of a heart attack. Both the financial secretary and her husband have had the shots and boosted, both got blood clots and nearly died. The GM has all kinds of leg issues now.
That is a very small portion of the folks I know with serious problems. ALL these folks take good care of themselves except for the jab.
Their "depopulation push" is the issue.
Funny how all those "conspiracy theories" are proven to be correct.
If you wish to be ignorant of the blatant facts, go right ahead.
TheRealBadger
01-04-2023, 9:01pm
No , far from fear.
I got sick as a dog back in Dec 2019. Probably covid before it was "official". No shots, no masks and guess what? I haven't gotten sick thru this deep state shit show.
My Mom got her shots and booster. Blood clots damn near killed her. Tom at work got the shots, has heart problems now. Paul ex wife made him get the shots to see his kids. Dropped dead of a heart attack. Both the financial secretary and her husband have had the shots and boosted, both got blood clots and nearly died. The GM has all kinds of leg issues now.
That is a very small portion of the folks I know with serious problems. ALL these folks take good care of themselves except for the jab.
Their "depopulation push" is the issue.
Funny how all those "conspiracy theories" are proven to be correct.
If you wish to be ignorant of the blatant facts, go right ahead.
I’m still shocked the Trump Vaccine was unleashed to such evil purposes.
Steve_R
01-04-2023, 9:03pm
I’m still shocked the Trump Vaccine was unleashed to such evil purposes.
People had trust in “experts,” the CDC and NIH, and “the science” then. No more.
TheRealBadger
01-04-2023, 9:07pm
People had trust in “experts,” the CDC and NIH, and “the science” then. No more.
“The vaccines – and by the way, don’t let Joe Biden take credit for the vaccine. . . . Don’t let him take credit for the vaccines, because the vaccines were me.” - Trump
““There are some people that say my greatest achievement was getting the vaccine, because the vaccine was said to take three to five years, and most people said it wasn’t going to happen.” - Trump
“We made maybe one of the best bets in history because we bought billions and billions of dollars worth of the vaccine by saving time long prior to knowing whether or not it was going to work. Now, I had an idea it was going to work. I had a meeting with the drug companies. I put tremendous pressure on the FDA. If you interview them, they will tell you, we don’t like him. But if they liked me it would’ve been three years, five years, and probably you wouldn’t have a vaccine. They were very bureaucratic. They were very slow.” -Trump
"I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." He added: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works." - Trump
JRD77VET
01-04-2023, 9:19pm
And not a word from Trump now on the so called "vaccines" because the folks he trusted LIED to him.
They had to change the definition of "vaccine" so the jab would fit. Now the folks who got the jab and the boosters are more likely to get sick.
If you got jabbed, I hope you stay well and beat the odds ( honestly, I don't want anyone to have any issues)
TheRealBadger
01-04-2023, 9:24pm
And not a word from Trump now on the so called "vaccines" because the folks he trusted LIED to him.
They had to change the definition of "vaccine" so the jab would fit. Now the folks who got the jab and the boosters are more likely to get sick.
If you got jabbed, I hope you stay well and beat the odds ( honestly, I don't want anyone to have any issues)
So, he was so incompetent he let those people lie to him for years?
And then he actually MADE them accelerate the vaccine?
"They don't want to say it because they're gutless," Trump said. "You gotta say it, whether you had it or not. Say it. But the fact is that I think the vaccines saved tens of millions throughout the world. I've had absolutely no side effects."
Lots of victims running around.
Steve_R
01-04-2023, 9:30pm
“The vaccines – and by the way, don’t let Joe Biden take credit for the vaccine. . . . Don’t let him take credit for the vaccines, because the vaccines were me.” - Trump
““There are some people that say my greatest achievement was getting the vaccine, because the vaccine was said to take three to five years, and most people said it wasn’t going to happen.” - Trump
“We made maybe one of the best bets in history because we bought billions and billions of dollars worth of the vaccine by saving time long prior to knowing whether or not it was going to work. Now, I had an idea it was going to work. I had a meeting with the drug companies. I put tremendous pressure on the FDA. If you interview them, they will tell you, we don’t like him. But if they liked me it would’ve been three years, five years, and probably you wouldn’t have a vaccine. They were very bureaucratic. They were very slow.” -Trump
"I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." He added: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works." - Trump
So? What’s your point? I don’t care if it was Jesus pushing the jab, my thoughts would be the same.
6 Shooter
01-04-2023, 9:38pm
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/damar-hamlin-incident-could-be-a-wake-up-call-about-how-violent-football-is-ex-nfl-star-says
Yes it’s violent, it always has been. Our society/nation is so soft it’s ripe for a take over. :slap:
So, he was so incompetent he let those people lie to him for years?
And then he actually MADE them accelerate the vaccine?
"They don't want to say it because they're gutless," Trump said. "You gotta say it, whether you had it or not. Say it. But the fact is that I think the vaccines saved tens of millions throughout the world. I've had absolutely no side effects."
Lots of victims running around.
I don't know why you keep pushing that. It's preaching to the choir. I'm a Trump supporter, but acknowledge he was wrong about the vaccines. I give him a pass early on, because early on, none of us knew, we just took the word of people we were supposed to be able to trust....who lied their asses off to us.
Fast forward to now. If Trump mentions the injections to his supporters at a rally, he literally gets booed. What do you want us to say? He's wrong now about the injections, and he's wrong about Kevin McCarthy.
VatorMan
01-05-2023, 8:02am
“The vaccines – and by the way, don’t let Joe Biden take credit for the vaccine. . . . Don’t let him take credit for the vaccines, because the vaccines were me.” - Trump
““There are some people that say my greatest achievement was getting the vaccine, because the vaccine was said to take three to five years, and most people said it wasn’t going to happen.” - Trump
“We made maybe one of the best bets in history because we bought billions and billions of dollars worth of the vaccine by saving time long prior to knowing whether or not it was going to work. Now, I had an idea it was going to work. I had a meeting with the drug companies. I put tremendous pressure on the FDA. If you interview them, they will tell you, rwe don’t like him. But if they liked me it would’ve been three years, five years, and probably you wouldn’t have a vaccine. They were very bureaucratic. They were very slow.” -Trump
"I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." He added: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works." - Trump
It’s amazing how great the world would be if we could go back in time to fix **** ups. Biggest **** up was still letting Chinese virus bringers into the country as the democrats wanted.
Vandelay Industries
01-05-2023, 8:18am
So? What’s your point? I don’t care if it was Jesus pushing the jab, my thoughts would be the same.
I don't know why you keep pushing that. It's preaching to the choir. I'm a Trump supporter, but acknowledge he was wrong about the vaccines. I give him a pass early on, because early on, none of us knew, we just took the word of people we were supposed to be able to trust....who lied their asses off to us.
Fast forward to now. If Trump mentions the injections to his supporters at a rally, he literally gets booed. What do you want us to say? He's wrong now about the injections, and he's wrong about Kevin McCarthy.
:iagree: ^^^This^^^ Agree with him or disagree, at least Trump has been consistent.
Unlike Joe and Kamala, who went from telling people to not trust the vaccine, don't get it, it might be dangerous....to you WILL get it or you will lose your job. If you don't get it, you're the problem. Biden even said there was no vaccine when he took office even though both he and kneepads were at the front of the line in Dec '20 to get the shot.
Vandelay Industries
01-05-2023, 8:21am
It’s amazing how great the world would be if we could go back in time to fix **** ups. Biggest **** up was still letting Chinese virus bringers into the country as the democrats wanted.
The "intelligence" committee was far too busy working on the First Annual Impeachment of Trump to actually do things like....foreign intelligence at that point.
Guarantee that if Trump was in the White House, every Democrat and every commie media outlet would be telling everyone NOT to get the vaccine.
Vette40th
01-05-2023, 8:24am
Guarantee that if Trump was in the White House, every Democrat and every commie media outlet would be telling everyone NOT to get the vaccine.
Were they not doing that, till Joe was in
Vandelay Industries
01-05-2023, 8:25am
Guarantee that if Trump was in the White House, every Democrat and every commie media outlet would be telling everyone NOT to get the vaccine.
Were they not doing that, till Joe was in
:yesnod: That was the party line until 1/20/21.
Were they not doing that, till Joe was in
Yes
:yesnod: That was the party line until 1/20/21.
Correct
Onebadcad
01-05-2023, 9:58am
Yep, socialists are always consistent in their comments, always looking to do all things to encourage their peoples to do the right thing, without bringing politics into play.
https://gop.com/research/democrats-repeatedly-undermined-the-vaccine/
DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY UNDERMINED THE VACCINE
AUG 04, 2021
Democrats Spent 2020 Recklessly Undermining The Public’s Confidence In The Vaccine
BIDEN AND HIS ADVISORS SOWED DOUBT ABOUT THE SAFETY OF COVID-19 VACCINES
In the months leading up to the election, Democrats repeatedly cast doubt and undermined public confidence in the safety and effectiveness of vaccines produced under the Trump administration.
Democrats’ dog whistling about vaccines was seized on by anti-vaxxers and led to a rise in vaccine skepticism.
Joe Biden questioned whether a vaccine would be “real.”
In August, Biden suggested the vaccines might be unsafe, saying “if and when the vaccine comes, it’s not likely to go through all the tests…and trials that are needed to be done.”
In September, Biden legitimized those who were questioning the safety of the vaccines, saying, “who’s going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say sign me up?”
Days later, then-Biden Press Secretary Symone Sanders repeatedly refused to say whether Biden would take the COVID vaccine if it was approved before election day.
A week later, Biden said the American people “should not have confidence” in the vaccine unless it met his campaign’s specific criteria.
In September, Kamala Harris refused to say whether she would take a vaccine approved before Election Day: “I think that’s going to be an issue for all of us.”
Harris said that scientists would not have the “last word” in approving the vaccine, and suggested a vaccine may not be effective.
Ron Klain, now White House Chief of Staff, tweeted: “When you read how Team Trump played politics with testing it makes you wonder how they will handle vaccines?”
DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS UNDERMINED VACCINE CONFIDENCE
Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY), in October: “I believe all across the country you're going to need someone other than this FDA and this CDC saying it's safe.”
Cuomo said he was “not that confident” in the FDA’s approval process for a COVID-19 vaccine and that Americans “should be” “skeptical” about a vaccine.
In September, Cuomo said “I’m not going to trust” the federal government’s opinion on whether the vaccine is safe and “wouldn’t recommend to New Yorkers based on the federal government’s opinion.”
Governor Jay Inslee (D-WA) in September: “I believe we will need to have access to the vaccine results so we can make our independent assessment to make sure that Donald Trump’s fingerprints are not on it.”
Inslee, when asked if he would be willing to take a vaccine released before the election, wouldn’t commit to doing so, saying “I would have to look at the science.”
CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS QUESTIONED THE SAFETY OF THE VACCINES
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN): “We can’t trust the President and take his word, and take a vaccine that might cause harm to us.”
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) said the FDA and CDC “have gotten screwed up by President Trump” and that “unfortunately, they aren’t the gold standard any longer, so you need to take a slightly closer look” at a vaccine.
Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) suggested – without evidence – that there was political interference in the FDA approval process.
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA): “We cannot take for granted this process [of developing a vaccine] will be free of political influence.”
Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN) suggested that if a vaccine was announced before election day, it would be because of political pressure.
PROMINENT DEMOCRATS SAID THEY WERE “HESITANT” TO GET THE VACCINE
Former Rep. Katie Hill (D-CA) tweeted she was “skeptical” of getting the vaccine and suggested the vaccine would not be safe, saying that “Trump’s plan is to test the vaccine” on his supporters.
Senate candidate Cal Cunningham said “yes, I would be hesitant” to get the vaccine.
bsmith
01-05-2023, 10:29am
clearly this thread has changed topics, but a teammate tweeted that Damar Hamlin is awake and showing more signs of improvement.
https://twitter.com/kaiirelam5/status/1611019806651867137
Steve_R
01-05-2023, 10:31am
clearly this thread has changed topics, but a teammate tweeted that Damar Hamlin is awake and showing more signs of improvement.
https://twitter.com/kaiirelam5/status/1611019806651867137
Hopefully that's true, but if he was still intubated and on 50% oxygen yesterday it's highly unlikely he's awake today. Time will tell. It is weird that the family, the hospital, and the NFL have all said nothing about his condition.
bsmith
01-05-2023, 10:34am
Hopefully that's true, but if he was still intubated and on 50% oxygen yesterday it's highly unlikely he's awake today. Time will tell. It is weird that the family, the hospital, and the NFL have all said nothing about his condition.
Everything I had read prior was that they would start weaning him off the sedation yesterday.
https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1611021908849352704
bsmith
01-05-2023, 11:04am
He opened his eyes last night and is responsive.
Has been able to hold and grip hands with family.
Long way to go, but great news.
Onebadcad
01-05-2023, 11:14am
clearly this thread has changed topics, but a teammate tweeted that Damar Hamlin is awake and showing more signs of improvement.
https://twitter.com/kaiirelam5/status/1611019806651867137
Good to hear postive news, the best scenario is he suffered no loss of functions, playing football again should be very low on his list.
Onebadcad
01-05-2023, 11:16am
His charity is now at $7.2M, with this he can accomplish great things.
Onebadcad
01-05-2023, 12:13pm
Cardiologist explains heart stopping from trauma hit:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cardiac-arrest-causes-buffalo-bills-damar-hamlin-rcna64020
What is commotio cordis?
It's thought that commotio cordis occurs about 15 to 20 times a year in the U.S., mostly in adolescents participating in sports like baseball, hockey or lacrosse, said Dr. Mark Link, a cardiologist at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.
It's even rarer for people over age 20, because ribs harden with age and are better able to protect against blunt trauma, said Link, an expert in commotio cordis who is a clinical cardiac electrophysiologist specializing in heart rhythm problems.
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 6:54am
Covid INJECTIONS are a killer, no doubt. Latest numbers from Ed Dowd (starts at ~16:00).
He found a study from 2006 (a Meta-Analysis, the strongest type) called 'The Lausanne Study'. In it, from 1966 to 2004 (38 Years), they identified 1101cases of athletes under 35, dying of cardiac issues - on the earth. 1101/38 = ~29 per year. He was able, on his own, by using just Google and local news websites, to identify ~595 in the US alone, since the injections (2 years).
Also, current Group Life Disability Claims (ages 16-64) are through the roof, at ~ 1.7 Million. Excess deaths in that group are at 40%.
https://rumble.com/v241qb6-excess-deaths-climbing-former-blackrock-whistleblower-guest-edward-dowd-ep..html
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 8:31am
Covid INJECTIONS are a killer, no doubt. Latest numbers from Ed Dowd (starts at ~16:00).
He found a study from 2006 (a Meta-Analysis, the strongest type) called 'The Lausanne Study'. In it, from 1966 to 2004 (38 Years), they identified 1101cases of athletes under 35, dying of cardiac issues - on the earth. 1101/38 = ~29 per year. He was able, on his own, by using just Google and local news websites, to identify ~595 in the US alone, since the injections (2 years).
Also, current Group Life Disability Claims (ages 16-64) are through the roof, at ~ 1.7 Million. Excess deaths in that group are at 40%.
https://rumble.com/v241qb6-excess-deaths-climbing-former-blackrock-whistleblower-guest-edward-dowd-ep..html
:rofl: You believe this stuff? Keep living in fear. Don’t leave the basement!
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 8:34am
I love ignore list. Keeps it adults only
I love ignore list. Keeps it adults only
Careful. He’s got experts he pays millions, to tell him the truth. :lol:
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 9:28am
Careful. He’s got experts he pays millions, to tell him the truth. :lol:
:rofl: And you have YouTube videos watched by dozens! :lol:
:rofl: And you have YouTube videos watched by dozens! :lol:
Link? :D
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 9:57am
My link was Rumble.
“Originally Posted by TheRealBadger View Post
None of that is really relevant. I don’t care what Biden said. I actually don’t care what Trump said. I care what my advisors have said with facts, data and real experience. Not fear and political posturing.“
“Why would I give you access to something that costs me millions? And why would you even want it? You seem to have your own “experts”” - therealbadger :yesnod:
:slap:
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 10:51am
If you pay millions for information already available for free, why pay 20 people 50K eac to find data?
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 11:39am
If you pay millions for information already available for free, why pay 20 people 50K eac to find data?
Who said the data was free already?
Oh wait. Rumble. Got it.
My link was Rumble.
I prefer to wait and see. I'm not seeing anyone I know personally, dying from the shots. But I respect folks that are researching the subject and sharing their sources. :yesnod:
Who said the data was free already?
Oh wait. Rumble. Got it.
Unlike yours, which doesn't appear to exist?
"Hitchens's razor". :yesnod:
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 1:13pm
Unlike yours, which doesn't appear to exist?
"Hitchens's razor". :yesnod:
*to you.
What do you think my data tells me?
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 1:14pm
I prefer to wait and see. I'm not seeing anyone I know personally, dying from the shots. But I respect folks that are researching the subject and sharing their sources. :yesnod:
My MIL suspiciously died a couple months after the getting her covid shots. Its well documented by my ex as to the things that happened right after the first and final shot.
Cancer free for 20 years, lungs. After shot, got ill, PA called it walking pneumonia. Her Primary called her back and did extra/ then MRI. 3 weeks after 1st shot, 1 week after second. Stage 4 adenocarcinoma. Out of the fricking blue. Hmm, died a couple weeks later after several attempts to stop it via Gamma radiation? Pinpoint style. Nothing worked. At the end, it was in her spine, brain base area and you could see it outside her ribs. 76 years old, ate well, very active, Doctors were perplexed as to how the F this came about so damn fast.
But Dems/Libs are good with it, because death cert had the cancer as cause of death.
Thats one personal within the family.
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 1:16pm
Hopefully we will get data on the kid that fell at the game.. If they release due to the politics involved with it though, it may not.
There is plenty of data , white papers, established Doctors, Autopsies, substack.
Some, unfortunately, refuse to leave CNN as primary source of data...
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 1:40pm
My MIL suspiciously died a couple months after the getting her covid shots. Its well documented by my ex as to the things that happened right after the first and final shot.
Cancer free for 20 years, lungs. After shot, got ill, PA called it walking pneumonia. Her Primary called her back and did extra/ then MRI. 3 weeks after 1st shot, 1 week after second. Stage 4 adenocarcinoma. Out of the fricking blue. Hmm, died a couple weeks later after several attempts to stop it via Gamma radiation? Pinpoint style. Nothing worked. At the end, it was in her spine, brain base area and you could see it outside her ribs. 76 years old, ate well, very active, Doctors were perplexed as to how the F this came about so damn fast.
But Dems/Libs are good with it, because death cert had the cancer as cause of death.
Thats one personal within the family.
I’m sorry for your loss.
But do you really think a shot goes from nothing to that in weeks? Yet literally a billion other people have taken it with no issue at all after 2 years? Really?
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 1:40pm
Hopefully we will get data on the kid that fell at the game.. If they release due to the politics involved with it though, it may not.
There is plenty of data , white papers, established Doctors, Autopsies, substack.
Some, unfortunately, refuse to leave CNN as primary source of data...
Link?
Anjdog2003
01-06-2023, 1:42pm
Who said the data was free already?
Oh wait. Rumble. Got it.
stpD4qWl8mM
*to you.
What do you think my data tells me?
Most likely telling you you're fos. Certainly, telling me that. :yesnod:
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 2:00pm
Most likely telling you you're fos. Certainly, telling me that. :yesnod:
Nope, it doesn’t say that.
But keep listening to fringe reports on made-up media. Live in fear in your basement. Good luck!
Nope, it doesn’t say that.
But keep listening to fringe reports on made-up media. Live in fear in your basement. Good luck!
Nonsense. If you actually had evidence, you claim to have, there'd be no reason not to share it. Is somebody going to profit off your "paid millions of dollars for" clot shot research? :lol:
You're a liar. Confess and let's move on. :waiting:
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 4:30pm
Nonsense. If you actually had evidence, you claim to have, there'd be no reason not to share it. Is somebody going to profit off your "paid millions of dollars for" clot shot research? :lol:
You're a liar. Confess and let's move on. :waiting:
Still skeered? Awww.
Vette40th
01-06-2023, 10:31pm
Just the news. I am sure there are more.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/video/sudden-cardiac-arrest-is-leading-cause-of-death-in-young-athletes/
Not covid related of course, as the paid pipers refuse to acknowledge.
TheRealBadger
01-06-2023, 10:52pm
Just the news. I am sure there are more.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/video/sudden-cardiac-arrest-is-leading-cause-of-death-in-young-athletes/
Not covid related of course, as the paid pipers refuse to acknowledge.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.111.023861
Vette40th
01-08-2023, 9:48am
Correct me if I am wrong but after brandons royal decree, in-air emergencies have gone from a 3 year average of 40-50 ish with 8 as the low and 73 as the high and have climbed increasingly ever since COVID mandates among pilots
totally cant be related to the jab - that wouldn't be in compliance with the CDC directed understanding of science...
...or maybe I just don't read graphs none so good'
Pilots/Passengers are coding in flight, due to the ClotShot. Pretty sure, barring some miracle, any employed pilot for a major airline, had to injected by Dec '21.
Also, kids in Nevada dying , just collapsing. Covid related, I am sure it is, as is the shots the Bills player took. Stats dont lie. Medical data will keep proving.
Vette40th
01-08-2023, 9:59am
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8365220/
Tikiman
01-08-2023, 10:20am
In 2009, Pfizer was fined $2.3 BILLION dollars for bribing doctors and falsifying negative test results.
So you know you can trust them. :rofl:
Vette40th
01-08-2023, 10:46am
In 2009, Pfizer was fined $2.3 BILLION dollars for bribing doctors and falsifying negative test results.
So you know you can trust them. :rofl:
As long as you pay for the data, it will be trusted..
Anyone who is unaware of the massive problems with the non-vaccine after 1.5 years of global data is either willfully ignorant, in denial, or part of the problem.
Vette40th
01-08-2023, 11:42am
Anyone who is unaware of the massive problems with the non-vaccine after 1.5 years of global data is either willfully ignorant, in denial, or part of the problem.
Non vaccine issues? Isolation, financial loss, doxxed, black listed? or health?
I am asking for a friend?
Louie Detroit
01-08-2023, 1:08pm
So the Buffalo kick off guy just returned the opening kickoff for a TD and the announcers are verbally jerking off to the sick guy.
Vette40th
01-08-2023, 1:14pm
So the Buffalo kick off guy just returned the opening kickoff for a TD and the announcers are verbally jerking off to the sick guy.
Sick guy sells, TD is just a racist person winning.
Tikiman
01-08-2023, 1:27pm
I see where an ODU basketball player just collapsed at the beginning of the game and was clutching his chest. Completely normal - now.
https://ussanews.com/2023/01/08/video-college-basketball-player-clutches-heart-collapses-during-game/
Non vaccine issues? Isolation, financial loss, doxxed, black listed? or health?
I am asking for a friend?
I should have been more clear: I was referring to the clot shot, which is not a vaccine -- or wasn't until the CDC changed the definition of "vaccine" a year or so ago. :)
That other stuff you mentioned is another whole pile of data showing the negative side effects of government action.
So the Buffalo kick off guy just returned the opening kickoff for a TD and the announcers are verbally jerking off to the sick guy.
It's freaking disgusting. I tried watching the NFL pre-game (Chiefs) yesterday but that was all they could talk about so I didn't go back til the game started. Same thing today.
I wonder how much different it would be if Hamlin's skin was white?
In the countless hours the talking heads have been yammering, crying, and masturbating over the guy, has the word "vaccine" ever been mentioned?
I don't know, but I would bet a lot of money that it hasn't.
TheRealBadger
01-08-2023, 2:11pm
It's freaking disgusting. I tried watching the NFL pre-game (Chiefs) yesterday but that was all they could talk about so I didn't go back til the game started. Same thing today.
I wonder how much different it would be if Hamlin's skin was white?
In the countless hours the talking heads have been yammering, crying, and masturbating over the guy, has the word "vaccine" ever been mentioned?
I don't know, but I would bet a lot of money that it hasn't.
Why would something that has nothing to do with a freak accident, with a know medical diagnosis, be used at all?
I mean, unless you are skeered and looking for someone to blame.
https://i.redd.it/18hshkmqxtaa1.jpg
https://twitter.com/AtTheMartins/status/1611945853362778112
More coincidence......
TheRealBadger
01-08-2023, 2:39pm
https://i.redd.it/18hshkmqxtaa1.jpg
https://twitter.com/AtTheMartins/status/1611945853362778112
More coincidence......
What is the coincidence? Are you just trolling for any death you can find?
https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1612089322223673345
Why would something that has nothing to do with a freak accident, with a know medical diagnosis, be used at all?
I mean, unless you are skeered and looking for someone to blame.
*known
You welcome. :)
TheRealBadger
01-08-2023, 8:34pm
*known
You welcome. :)
Thanks!
Another young healthy vaxxed to the max athlete collapses suddenly:
https://twitter.com/panajeck/status/1612084245970968583
TheRealBadger
01-08-2023, 10:28pm
Another young healthy vaxxed to the max athlete collapses suddenly:
https://twitter.com/panajeck/status/1612084245970968583
How do you know he was vaccinated?
And he was so badly injured he had to sit with the team the rest of the game and then ride home with them afterward . Sounds serious.
TheRealBadger
01-08-2023, 10:29pm
https://www.wbfo.org/2004-05-06/canisius-basketball-player-collapses-and-dies?_amp=true
Oh shit. Another one. You think this was Trump’s vax too?
TheRealBadger
01-08-2023, 10:31pm
Oh man, here’s another one. The Trump Vax is killing them all!
https://apnews.com/article/0aaa201d82dd7d4edb27d70817d2fa92
Glad I didn’t “trust the science” and get “vaccinated”. :)
Even barring the potential deadly side effects of these concoctions, there’s this:
Tikiman
01-09-2023, 9:35am
What is the coincidence? Are you just trolling for any death you can find?
If I am not mistaken, that is precisely what the left did to elevate the Chinese Sniffles numbers. The head of the CDC admitted as much during congressional testimony. He called it, and I quote, "A perverse economic incentive for hospitals to inflate coronavirus deaths". This was on July 31, 2020.
Or have you conveniently forgotten that? :D
If I am not mistaken, that is precisely what the left did to elevate the Chinese Sniffles numbers. The head of the CDC admitted as much during congressional testimony. He called it, and I quote, "A perverse economic incentive for hospitals to inflate coronavirus deaths". This was on July 31, 2020.
Or have you conveniently forgotten that? :D
I’m an eyewitness to this ^ . FIL brother was buried at taxpayer expense, in exchange for allowing his death to be attributed to WuFlu. :yesnod:
TheRealBadger
01-09-2023, 11:00am
If I am not mistaken, that is precisely what the left did to elevate the Chinese Sniffles numbers. The head of the CDC admitted as much during congressional testimony. He called it, and I quote, "A perverse economic incentive for hospitals to inflate coronavirus deaths". This was on July 31, 2020.
Or have you conveniently forgotten that? :D
The head of the CDC? Who reported to the then Pub president?
Yeah, I remember. And I remember Trump being all over it.
Tikiman
01-09-2023, 2:07pm
Who is pushing the slab jab now?
Or doesn't the buck stop at Pedo Joe's desk?
Well, it has happened. A guy in his late 40's, fully injected as a requirement of working for Uncle Sam, died flying back to the US from the died suddenlys.
suddenly. I am guessing blood clot/DVT from sitting in one place for hours. First person I personally know that has died. But of course, this could just be a sad coincidence, too and not prove causation.
How much longer are we going to reject causation out of hand? :mad:
Tikiman
01-09-2023, 2:11pm
Well, it has happened. A guy in his late 40's, fully injected as a requirement of working for Uncle Sam, died flying back to the US from the died suddenlys.
suddenly. I am guessing blood clot/DVT from sitting in one place for hours. First person I personally know that has died. But of course, this could just be a sad coincidence, too and not prove causation.
How much longer are we going to reject causation out of hand? :mad:
I have a prediction to make. I say that by June of this year too many young people will be dropping and the gubbermint will have to make some form of statement. It will be interesting to see how they try to spin it.
Damar has been released from the hospital
TheRealBadger
01-09-2023, 3:44pm
Who is pushing the slab jab now?
Or doesn't the buck stop at Pedo Joe's desk?
I don’t know anyone that is pushing it other than the guy who told me it was patriotic to do so.
Damar has been released from the hospital
Excellent news.
Damar has been released from the hospital
Transferred to a hospital in Buffalo.
He's been up and walking since Friday.
I don’t know anyone that is pushing it other than the guy who told me it was patriotic to do so.
If you watch TV, listen to the radio, or have a shitty adblocker on your computer, you'll see that the federal government is STILL putting out ads telling you to get injected, and Pfizer also has generic ads, get injected. Note they aren't pushing THEIR particular brand of shot, just that everyone should "get boosted." Why? Why not advertise their OWN brand? Oh, hey, if the advertise a specific drug, they have to list the side effects, including death, and I can see why they would not want to do that. Any ideas to the contrary here? Ever seen or heard of a car manufacturer encouraging people to "just buy a car," but not ask them to purchase their own brand?
https://media.patriots.win/post/ieMWaKIb9T3m.jpeg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11616087/Canadian-TV-reporter-suffers-medical-emergency-live-air-says-shes-not-feeling-well.html
Moment Canadian TV reporter suffers medical emergency live on air - telling host she's 'not feeling well' and slurs words before eerie blank stare
Canadian news reporter Jessica Robb suffered a medical emergency on air
Robb*appeared faint and began repeating her words during the six o'clock news
She reports for CTV in Edmonton, which said she was 'better' and 'resting'
After saying that she was 'okay' her Twitter profile was made private*
By Neirin Gray Desai For Dailymail.Com
Published: 16:00 EST, 9 January 2023 | Updated: 17:45 EST, 9 January 2023
A Canadian news reporter became faint and appeared to suffer a medical emergency live on air this weekend.
Jessica Robb was presenting a segment on CTV's six o'clock news on Sunday when she appeared faint, began repeating her words, and told the host: 'I'm not feeling well.'
Her report was cut short and the host in the studio, Nahreman Issa, reassured viewers that Robb was not alone and had support.
Hours later both Robb and CTV Edmonton, where Robb works, put out tweets suggesting her recovery was underway, but not long after Robb's tweets were made private.*
In a statement shared with DailyMail.com on Monday afternoon she said: 'On Sunday night, a very personal and vulnerable moment unfolded as I reported live on air.'
Robb began the segment speaking coherently about how families of victims feel three years on from the downing of Flight PS752*by the Iranian military.
'Families are pushing the feds to... pushing the feds to...' she said, as she tripped over her words and stuttered.
As she became increasingly faint and seemed to lose her balance, she said: 'Sorry Nahreman. I'm, I'm, I'm not feeling very well right now, and I'm about to just...'
She was then interrupted by Issa, who said: 'Okay, we'll come back to you and we'll make sure that Jessica, you are doing okay. Thank you.'
n said on its official Twitter page that Robb was 'better' and 'resting'
In the moments before the camera returned to Issa, Robb began inching forward with a wobble.
A few hours later CTV Edmonton said on its official Twitter page: 'Thanks to everyone who inquired about our reporter who became ill during the 6 p.m. News. Jessica Robb is feeling better and is now resting.'
At around the same time Robb posted on her own Twitter saying that she was 'okay.'
'Thank you to everyone who has reached, my cameraman, @Stmcclune for being there for me, & @NahremanIssaCTV for being an absolute pro (as usual),' she said.
The anchor's Twitter profile then went private soon after, but it is not clear why.
'To everyone who has reached out with supportive messages of well wishes and concern, thank you. It's been overwhelming, and while I can’t get to all the messages, please know I’ve seen them and appreciate every single one,' she said in the statement.*
She added: 'I have also received an overwhelming amount of harassment and hatred, tied to false theories about the reason for the incident.
'While I will not share private medical information publicly, I can say that there is no cause for concern, and that my understanding of my own medical background provides a reasonable explanation for what happened.
'I can, however, confirm that the situation was in no way related to the COVID-19 vaccine.'*
In October last year a news anchor in Oklahoma also started gargling her words on air as she started to suffer from a stroke.
Julie Chin, of Tulsa NBC affiliate KJRH, was delivering a story about NASA's cancelled Artemis-I launch when she suddenly found herself unable to speak the words she was reading off her teleprompter.
Some days after Chin took to Facebook to explain that she was in good health, and that doctor's believed she suffered 'the beginnings of a stroke, but not a full stroke.'
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https://i.postimg.cc/FHL10dSc/haha-with-sign.gif
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https://aw-journal.com/tour-de-ski-winner-karlsson-of-sweden-collapses-after-race/
Tour de Ski winner Karlsson of Sweden collapses after race
The winner of the Tour de Ski stage race, Swedish skier Frida Karlsson, lost consciousness during the final race. This was announced on Sunday, January 8, by the svt.se TV channel.
After the race, the athlete lay on the snow for a long time. It was later revealed that she had fainted. Medics carried the skier off the track on a stretcher. She did not attend the awards ceremony.
Karlsson was hospitalized, however, according to the latest data from the TV channel, she is already in her hotel room.
In the final race uphill Karlsson took 15th place. The winner of the stage was the Frenchwoman Delphine Claudel, the second and third places were taken by the Norwegian Heidi Weng and the American Sophie Lockley, respectively.
Karlsson won the Tour de Ski for the first time in her career.
The final women’s Tour de Ski took place on January 8 in Val di Fiemme, Italy.
Earlier, on January 6, it was reported that the skier died while descending Mount Elbrus. The man during the descent violated the requirements and went beyond the fences of the track. Then he picked up a lot of speed and could not part with another athlete. As a result of the collision, the skier who flew over the fences was injured, from which he died. The second participant in the incident is currently in the hospital, there is no threat to his life. Investigators of the Kabardino-Balkarian Republic launched a pre-investigation check after the incident.
Vette40th
01-09-2023, 10:28pm
Its so sad that people have to be the experiment to a disease. A super cold called Covid 19. What did the media, and governments gain from lying to us, and hiding simple proven fixes to the issue of the cold. Why. Only people towing the line gaining anything.
The patriots, innocent civilians etc are the targets. Why, why do we threaten the progressives. COVID 19 was an excuse to control people and kill them, thats all.
Next time, beware of next time..
TheRealBadger
01-09-2023, 10:48pm
Its so sad that people have to be the experiment to a disease. A super cold called Covid 19. What did the media, and governments gain from lying to us, and hiding simple proven fixes to the issue of the cold. Why. Only people towing the line gaining anything.
The patriots, innocent civilians etc are the targets. Why, why do we threaten the progressives. COVID 19 was an excuse to control people and kill them, thats all.
Next time, beware of next time..
None of that is true. Nice opinion though.
Keeping my eye on Maui. Lots of liberal property owners there, might be a buying opportunity after Darwin finishes his work. :yesnod:
Vette40th
01-09-2023, 11:07pm
Keeping my eye on Maui. Lots of liberal property owners there, might be a buying opportunity after Darwin finishes his work. :yesnod:
Big Island is so much better.. Trust me, its the best island out there.
None of that is true. Nice opinion though.
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Torqaholic
01-10-2023, 12:03am
Hard chest hits can cause the heart to stop beating.
...
Sure, and some "experts" have called for greater chest protection in football players... Not sure what they're experts at but it damn sure isn't playing football -
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/32/e6/03/32e603573449dfaf03f2f0dc8a12f617--shoulder-pads-nfl-football.jpg
cptlo306
01-10-2023, 12:36am
https://i.redd.it/18hshkmqxtaa1.jpg
https://twitter.com/AtTheMartins/status/1611945853362778112
More coincidence......
Sadly, probably suicide. No confirmation, but part of the Instagram post about her death mentions "And please, check on your loved ones. Keep checking on them. Give them hugs and tell them how much they mean to you. You just never know."
Vette40th
01-10-2023, 6:44am
Sadly, probably suicide. No confirmation, but part of the Instagram post about her death mentions "And please, check on your loved ones. Keep checking on them. Give them hugs and tell them how much they mean to you. You just never know."
With people saying keep checking on loved ones, I would say suicide is very possible here.
Everyone has someone they can contact, especially with cell phones, internet, etc.. But, its always good to check on people, politics aside.
Torqaholic
01-10-2023, 7:35am
Sadly, probably suicide. No confirmation...
It was however confirmed that all covid shot and boosters are mandatory for participation in that contest.
If you watch TV, listen to the radio, or have a shitty adblocker on your computer, you'll see that the federal government is STILL putting out ads telling you to get injected, and Pfizer also has generic ads, get injected. Note they aren't pushing THEIR particular brand of shot, just that everyone should "get boosted." Why? Why not advertise their OWN brand? Oh, hey, if the advertise a specific drug, they have to list the side effects, including death, and I can see why they would not want to do that. Any ideas to the contrary here? Ever seen or heard of a car manufacturer encouraging people to "just buy a car," but not ask them to purchase their own brand?
When I do my weight workout, I turn on a radio in my garage, so I listen for about an hour and a half twice per week. I hear literally dozens of advertisements pushing the shots. Anyone who thinks "no one is pushing the shots" is not paying attention.
TheRealBadger
01-10-2023, 8:11am
It was however confirmed that all covid shot and boosters are mandatory for participation in that contest.
You think the Trumpvax made her commit suicide? That’s a new one.
You think the Trumpvax made her commit suicide? That’s a new one.
Rent free
When I do my weight workout, I turn on a radio in my garage, so I listen for about an hour and a half twice per week. I hear literally dozens of advertisements pushing the shots. Anyone who thinks "no one is pushing the shots" is not paying attention.
Same on the local news here.
Same on the local news here.
Same here, radio and TV.
Torqaholic
01-10-2023, 8:57am
You think the Trumpvax made her commit suicide? That’s a new one.
What's new about it? Makes perfect sense. People off themselves every day because their health has turned to shit. Can't say this about undefeated fighters. What do you think, the success was too much for her to live with?
Torqaholic
01-10-2023, 8:59am
Same here, radio and TV.
Not seeing it on the internet for a long time.
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Vette40th
01-10-2023, 12:27pm
Child star Adam Rich died yesterday at 54. The cause of death had to be the vaccine. Everybody who dies young these days vaccine-related. Early deaths never happened before covid.:rofl:
Feel Better
Vette40th
01-10-2023, 1:12pm
I had all my shots and am still very much alive.:confused5:
And you live in a van.
I had all my shots and am still very much alive.:confused5:
I survived the 1976 Swine Flu shot as did my wife and millions of others. Side effects of any drug are unpredictable for any specific person. Try reading the fine print that comes with any drug.
But there were a handful of deaths caused by the swine flu shot and the gov't yanked it. I remember it.
Wonder why they didn't yank the WuFlu shot now after tens of thousands of adverse events world-wide? :confused:
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'Nuther victim of the suddenlies.
https://thepulse.one/2022/10/01/woman-dies-in-shoppers-drug-mart-7-minutes-after-covid-19-vaccine-booster/
Woman Dies In Shoppers Drug Mart 7 Minutes After COVID-19 Vaccine Booster
byArjun Walia
October 1, 2022
The Facts:
Carol Pearce, a Canadian women from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, died within 7 minutes of receiving a COVID-19 booster shot.
Saskatchewan Health has declared that Pearce's death was from natural causes after the Saskatchewan coroner's service investigated the case.
Coinkidink alert!
Her family says she was in good health, and believed the booster shot killed her.
Reflect On:
This story is yet another example of why we must question what is happening within government.
Are deaths that occur shortly after vaccination being properly investigated?
Why are there a record number of COVID-19 vaccine injury reports across the globe?
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Carol Pearce, a Canadian women from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, is said to have died within 7 minutes of receiving a COVID-19 booster shot. According to her daughter, Stephanie Foster, her mother’s death is linked to the vaccine. She emphasized that her mother was in good health.
However, Saskatchewan Health has declared that Pearce’s death was from natural causes after the Saskatchewan coroner’s service investigated the case.
Pearce was visiting her daughter earlier that day before heading to the Shoppers Drug Mart to get her booster shot. Pearce went into the pharmacy, was vaccinated, and stuck around for the normal 15 minute waiting period to be sure no adverse events occurred.
It was only 7 minutes into that 15 minute period when she dropped onto the Shopper Drug Mart floor and died.
SASKTODAY, a local paper in Saskatoon, tracked down a witness who was at the store that day to get more of the story. The witness wished to remain anonymous in fear of losing her job. This is what she said:
“People started screaming, people were crying, just about everybody that worked there was crying and freaking and hugging each other and just losing their [sh**].
They were saying in the store that it was about seven minutes, [after Pearce got the booster shot that she collapsed on the floor,] it wasn’t long at all before the ambulance was there.”
Anonymous Witness named ‘Heather’
Both Pearce and her daughter Stephanie were vaccinated and proponents of the vaccine. As mentioned, Pearce’s daughter does not believe her mother’s death was from natural causes,
“I do not believe this was caused from natural causes. My Mom had no health conditions. I believe had she not gotten that Covid shot then she would be here with us today!”
"AE" = adverse events:
https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1612868167201656852?s=20&t=k44y9FeuDFj-qFBdyoYmSA
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1612828407842193409?s=20&t=k44y9FeuDFj-qFBdyoYmSA
Vette40th
01-10-2023, 6:29pm
'Nuther victim of the suddenlies.
https://thepulse.one/2022/10/01/woman-dies-in-shoppers-drug-mart-7-minutes-after-covid-19-vaccine-booster/
The leftists will say, well, what do the death cert say. Even if a bullet went through the brain, they will say "what does the Death Cert say".
Did we not have a few crazy deaths and the Docs called it something else..
I am all for science, and once more and more people are not afraid to lose their jobs, I bet the science is going to keep showing these Covid Elixrs were BS poison shots.
Look at the SDS sheets, and then ask why were they put into SEC as gene therapy? That is truth, and the SDS sheets have some nasty ingredients.
orticosteroids (dexamethasone), paraben, lauryl sulfate, polyethylene glycol in adhesives/medical tape [TAPE ~ Tannic Acid-Polyethylene glycol (PEG)], Tris (in hair care products and Ketorolac), Balsam Peru, some polysorbates
lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate),
2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N, N-ditetradecylacetamide
1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol)
potassium chloride
monobasic potassium phosphate
sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose
recombinant, replication-incompetent adenovirus type 26 expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein
citric acid monohydrate
trisodium citrate dihydrate
ethanol
2-hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin (HBCD) (synthetic neuroactive steroid)
polysorbate-80
sodium chloride.
Pick your poisons.
Aerovette
01-10-2023, 6:46pm
You think the Trumpvax made her commit suicide? That’s a new one.
Are you referring to the Trumpvax that has saved millions of lives, or a different one?
TheRealBadger
01-10-2023, 6:56pm
Are you referring to the Trumpvax that has saved millions of lives, or a different one?
Nope. The same one.
Aerovette
01-10-2023, 7:01pm
Nope. The same one.
Trump is a lifesaver. Boy, that must hurt to say. :Jeff '79:
TheRealBadger
01-10-2023, 7:06pm
Trump is a lifesaver. Boy, that must hurt to say. :Jeff '79:
Why would it hurt to say that?
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STORY HERE (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cdc-finally-releases-vaers-safety-monitoring-analyses-covid-vaccines)
https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1612969534679388161?s=20&t=ZiLldZp8mdZvZn6GALKkbQ
https://twitter.com/TommyRobinsonNS/status/1612974845154705413
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1612967528329887745?s=20&t=ZiLldZp8mdZvZn6GALKkbQ
https://twitter.com/twc_health/status/1612967350021640192?s=20&t=ZiLldZp8mdZvZn6GALKkbQ
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Vette40th
01-11-2023, 6:42am
And another Kid dies
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/01/10/21-year-old-air-force-academy-football-player-dies-suddenly-n1660608
Air Force Academy student drops dead:
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/air-force-football-player-hunter-brown-dead
Air Force football player Hunter Brown suffered a medical emergency on his way to class Monday and died, the academy announced Tuesday. He was 21.
Brown, a sophomore center for the Falcons from Lake Charles, Louisiana, was on his way to class from his dorm room when he collapsed. Emergency personnel attempted life-saving measures but were unsuccessful, the school said.
Tikiman
01-11-2023, 10:31am
Kaufman Institute for Coincidence - YouTube
Raazor
01-11-2023, 11:50am
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https://www.fox5vegas.com/2023/01/10/las-vegas-student-died-after-suffering-cardiac-arrest-while-school-gofundme-says/
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https://gazette.com/sports/college-sports/colorado-college-tennis-player-jack-madison-20-has-died-school-says/article_25f90d2d-87e3-584e-83e5-7aa413835451.html
Jack Madison, a sophomore on the Colorado College men's tennis team, died in his sleep Jan. 2, the school announced.
Madison was 20 years old. The cause of death has not been announced.
"We are devastated by the tragic passing of Jack Madison," CC vice president and director of athletics Lesley Irvine said in a statement.*
Madison was recruited to Colorado Springs out of Bexley, Ohio, where he was a two-time all-state selection at Columbus Academy.
Madison's death preceded the sudden death of Air Force football player Hunter Brown, 21, who died Monday after suffering a "medical emergency" near his dormitory, the academy said.
Vette40th
01-12-2023, 8:22am
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-co
https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1613600209086386176?s=20&t=ATmQ5luH8Cgg-1sYkUURmA
cptlo306
01-13-2023, 1:25am
https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1613600209086386176?s=20&t=ATmQ5luH8Cgg-1sYkUURmA
Not a bombshell....in fact, pretty much total BS.
https://twitter.com/drg1985/status/1613106755516465152
Torqaholic
01-13-2023, 5:29am
This tactic is very common in antivaccine activism and really scares people
Who's scared? Nobody without the shot and those with the shot(s) have much bigger things to worry about than being hospitalized... Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (SADS) to be specific.
Speaking of grifters :D The only people I can imagine scared by such talk are those at risk of losing their profits. But then those are just our opinions. So WGAF, right?
cptlo306
01-13-2023, 5:45am
Who's scared? Nobody without the shot and those with the shot(s) have much bigger things to worry about than being hospitalized... Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (SADS) to be specific.
Speaking of grifters :D The only people I can imagine scared by such talk are those at risk of losing their profits. But then those are just our opinions. So WGAF, right?
Someone posted a tweet about a bombshell story that was debunked and your takeaway is the sentence about incorrect information scaring people? Any opinions on the actual information provided or is that too much to ask?
Tikiman
01-13-2023, 7:13am
Safe and effective. :rofl:
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