Grandpa's house up for sale

[Yadkin]

Baby Doll's grandfather built this in '69. Her uncle inherited it and lived there about twenty years. Never saw water inside until this last storm- four feet inside. They chose to gut it, clean it, stabilize it, and sell.

Lots of good memories, time to move on...

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5368-Colonade-Ct-Cape-Coral-FL-33904/45437121_zpid/

[LATB]

As far as a canal home in Cape Coral, that’s a great location.

[Steve_R]

Bad news is the housing market is already taking a shit it will be lucky to get half of asking

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[LATB]

Bad news is the housing market is already taking a shit it will be lucky to get half of asking

I’ll bite.

The FL market has cooled off from the hot frenzy in 2020 & 2021. But I’m still amazed at the prices that homes (and vacant land) are selling for.

Example:
Homes that sold for 500K in 2018/2019 we’re selling for 1.5M in 2021. Now that home will sell for 1.25M.

Meh.

[Don Rickles]

Bad news is the housing market is already taking a shit it will be lucky to get half of asking

Huge market right now for Ranch style houses in my neck of the woods!:yesnod:

[Big bob]

Prefer higher ground living in a ditch never.:rofl:

[dvarapala]

GLWS

[Steve_R]

So whoever bought that property in 2021 just took a quarter million dollar bath, sucks to be them.

They haven't lost (or made) anything yet, and won't until it sells. It also depends on the amount of the insurance settlement they got, as well as the eventual selling price.

But yeah, you know things nobody else does. :rolleyes:

Where does it say it sold in 2021? We'll wait. :popcorns:

[dvarapala]

So whoever bought that property in 2021 just took a quarter million dollar bath, sucks to be them.

They haven't lost (or made) anything yet, and won't until it sells. It also depends on the amount of the insurance settlement they got, as well as the eventual selling price.

There should be no insurance for a property like that. You're either Baller enough to pay cash and self-insure for hurricane damage, or you go live somewhere more rational. Private insurers in California stopped writing earthquake policies in the 90s after the Northridge quake; look for Florida insurers to do the same with flood policies. :yesnod:

[sublime1996525]

Ummm half the interior of the house is missing....

[Big bob]

Have a friend in Fort Myers he said they had 18 foot storm surge. He was amazed that many did not have flood insurance untill he heard the cost. He was fine 4th floor condo and he has more homes. Why anyone would put their only home in a low spot is beyond stupid. :kick:

[Onebadcad]

My brother lives about 0.25 mile away from that house, he is on finger canal also, with no fixed bridges.

He survived the storm, damage was under $60K, in FL with a 5% storm deductible, he may get $10-15K from his insurance policy.

Cape Coral is a very nice area, but do not tell people who live in Naples,,, the Naples folks are a little, maybe a lot, uppity.

[Steve_R]

There should be no insurance for a property like that. You're either Baller enough to pay cash and self-insure for hurricane damage, or you go live somewhere more rational. Private insurers in California stopped writing earthquake policies in the 90s after the Northridge quake; look for Florida insurers to do the same with flood policies. :yesnod:

Flood insurance is federally subsidized and required if you're in a designated flood plain. Earthquake insurance isn't. Duh.

[jw38]

Ummm half the interior of the house is missing....

Has water views: Yes...inside too!

So whoever bought that property in 2021 just took a quarter million dollar bath, sucks to be them.
Also I give credibility to the people that get paid to analyze these things, not some randos on the internet

73295

Very generalized map. I'm in Comal County, Texas, and the map shows the county in the "High" area. Our home was appraised at $1.13 million about 2 weeks ago. We built it for $443k in 2017. We bought our 3 acres for $30k in 2016 and the 3 acre lot down the street just sold for $179k. Yup...I'll take the 'loss'!

[GTOguy]

ICNLT. But many folks want to. GLWS! Nice digs!

[dvarapala]

Flood insurance is federally subsidized.

And that's the whole problem. People build houses in dangerous places and then the taxpayers have to bail them out. **** that!!

[Big bob]

Flood insurance is federally subsidized and required if you're in a designated flood plain. Earthquake insurance isn't. Duh.

They force you to buy house insurance? What kinda shit is that?:rofl:

[Steve_R]

And that's the whole problem. People build houses in dangerous places and then the taxpayers have to bail them out. **** that!!

So only allow houses in flat, dry, "safe" places that never have floods, fires, earthquakes, hail storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms, etc, etc, etc.

Solid plan.

:Jeff '79:

[sublime1996525]

So only allow houses in flat, dry, "safe" places that never have floods, fires, earthquakes, hail storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms, etc, etc, etc.

Solid plan.

:Jeff '79:

Or don't have the gov subsidize the builds. If you want to build in a flood zone, that's on you. The government shouldn't be involved imo. But I think the government shouldn't be involved in most things.

[dvarapala]

So only allow houses in flat, dry, "safe" places that never have floods, fires, earthquakes, hail storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms, etc, etc, etc.

Solid plan.

:Jeff '79:

That's not what I said and you know it. :nono:

[dvarapala]

Or don't have the gov subsidize the builds. If you want to build in a flood zone, that's on you. The government shouldn't be involved imo. But I think the government shouldn't be involved in most things.

Steeb might be a bit biased since he lives in just such a place and couldn't afford to stay there without subsidies from the rest of us. ;)

[dvarapala]

They force you to buy house insurance? What kinda shit is that?:rofl:

I take it, Big Baller, that you've never had a mortgage loan on any of your houses? :rolleyes:

[Big bob]

I take it, Big Baller, that you've never had a mortgage loan on any of your houses? :rolleyes:


Nope no big baller just lived below my means and did it the old fashioned way. Saved and bought the land then build with cash when able.:seasix:

[Steve_R]

Steeb might be a bit biased since he lives in just such a place and couldn't afford to stay there without subsidies from the rest of us. ;)

Wrong. We aren't in a flood plain and we aren't required to have flood insurance.

Next?

:popcorns:

[Rodnok1]

They force you to buy house insurance? What kinda shit is that?:rofl:

I know it's required if both live in designated flood plain and have a home loan ad the lender requires it

[Big bob]

I know it's required if both live in designated flood plain and have a home loan ad the lender requires it


You were not forced you agreed to it.:seasix:

[Steve_R]

Nope no big baller just lived below my means and did it the old fashioned way. Saved and bought the land then build with cash when able.:seasix:


So no homeowner's insurance of any kind? You have enough money stashed away to rebuild if it burns down? Baller for sure. :seasix:

[Onebadcad]

Flood Insurance, what I think I know:

1) Flood Maps are BS, I was in a flood zone for first 14 years of ownership, live 10+ miles from ocean, community has storm drains that have never failed, communities have canals and lakes on lock system that can drain 6+" per day
2) The reason the maps are BS is because more people are needed to pay for the idiots that do not have coverage, as they are viewed as unable to afford coverage, that is when FEMA steps in and makes all things right for the 81M
3) NFIP policy is maxed at $250K coverage, you must buy another to subsidize
4) Your HO INS will not pay for damage from rising waters
5) NFIP policies have more than doubled in some areas in the last five years, as more is needed from those who pay their bills, the ones who pay nothing will continue to pay nothing, actually less than nothing
6) Eff this BS, go mortgageless and avoid the scam

[Onebadcad]

So no homeowner's insurance of any kind? You have enough money stashed away to rebuild if it burns down? Baller for sure. :seasix:

I know many ballers, the wife is one based on her spending habits.

But seriously, even ballers, those who are mortgageless, have a coverage in place, adequate coverage for total replacement with a HUGELY deductible, as they only are concerned with a major loss event.
Another obvious reason to have an HO INS policy even if you have biden crime family money, is liability, as paying now for coverage is HUGELY cheaper than paying in the courts after you lose, and you will lose if occurred at your home.

[Steve_R]

I know many ballers, the wife is one based on her spending habits.

But seriously, even ballers, those who are mortgageless, have a coverage in place, adequate coverage for total replacement with a HUGELY deductible, as they only are concerned with a major loss even.
Another obvious reason to have an HO INS policy even if you have biden crime family money, is liability, as paying now for coverage is HUGELY cheaper than paying in the courts after you lose, and you will lose if occurred at your home.


Spot on. We have no mortgage but we do have HO insurance with a large deductible. It would be stupid not to.

[Rodnok1]

You were not forced you agreed to it.:seasix:

Well yes and no.
I've never lived in flood plain myself so haven't needed it.
However if you want a home loan for property in flood plain the lender requires it, don't have to live there and of course if pay cash do whatever you want.

Big arguments however have occurred over which insurance pays for the water damage if roofing is also damaged. Who pays for what, some people have fallen into a pit as neither want to pay. If house if gone did the wind do it or was it ths storm surge?
They want you to prove what happened. Stupid.

[GTOguy]

Spot on. We have no mortgage but we do have HO insurance with a large deductible. It would be stupid not to.

Exactly. You have to remember, even responding to the likes of Big Bob will be a complete waste of time. At least STS provides entertainment value.
I no longer respond to Big Bob, as he has made my 'list'. :)

[LATB]

Flood insurance is federally subsidized and required if you're in a designated flood plain. Earthquake insurance isn't. Duh.

Flood insurance is only required by most lenders. A cash buyer does not have to purchase flood insurance.

[Onebadcad]

Spot on. We have no mortgage but we do have HO insurance with a large deductible. It would be stupid not to.

The easy way to end this is that Preston Henn, before his passing, owned a great car collection.
The crown jewel of this collection, and also the crown jewel of the automotive world, was his 1964 Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciales, one of three built, the racing heritage is well-documented, the car is today as it left the racing world.
The car can fetch $125+M at auction, I think it would be over $150M, could touch $200M with the right bidders in the room.
I doubt the car has been driven, or started, in the last 20 years, as I tried to get close to it to do such, but was escorted away.
With that said, I bet it has a HUGELY policy on it, to protect the asset, even though it has minimal exposure to loss, with the exception of theft--anyone know how I can borrow a heavy-lift whirlybird, I can cut you in.

BTW, for those keeping score, he was a FL dood, lived in FL, as did the car!!

https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/ferrari_100551560_h.jpg

[LATB]

So whoever bought that property in 2021 just took a quarter million dollar bath, sucks to be them.
Also I give credibility to the people that get paid to analyze these things, not some randos on the internet


And one who bought in 2018 for 500K and sold in 2021 for 1.5M did well.

Did you have a point?

[Yadkin]

Nope no big baller just lived below my means and did it the old fashioned way. Saved and bought the land then build with cash when able.:seasix:

Dumb financial plan. :Jeff '79:

[Onebadcad]

The problem with stealing it is that you never be able to sell it. Would make a nice daily driver:lol:

Wrong-O!!

There is a market for all things stolen with a high value, if not true, why have high-priced art been the most coveted items for thieves for the past 100+ years.

Many of these top-tier art pieces sit in private collections, adored by the family and friends of the owner,,, I will assume most of these pieces are in the Middle East and Asia.

[Onebadcad]

I have three potential buyers lined up:

1) Sultan of Brunei has a car collection estimated at 10K cars
2) putin, little shit is the richest man in the world, picking up a new bitch in this ride will ensure a first date banging
3) any royal family member in the middle east, they live for cars, they would fight each other to get it

[dvarapala]

I no longer respond to Big Bob, as he has made my 'list'. :)

:lol:

[Onebadcad]

Exactly. You have to remember, even responding to the likes of Big Bob will be a complete waste of time. At least STS provides entertainment value.
I no longer respond to Big Bob, as he has made my 'list'. :)

Two simple rules for forum happiness:

1) Never start a list
2) Tell no one they are on your list

[Muffler Man]

WTF are you yapping on about old man I was replying to Lars anecdotal examples.

Feel free to butt in anytime but next time try to comprehend so you don’t look like a demented old geezer with the attention span of a jellyfish

:issues:Brutal:yesnod:

[Muffler Man]

The easy way to end this is that Preston Henn, before his passing, owned a great car collection.
The crown jewel of this collection, and also the crown jewel of the automotive world, was his 1964 Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciales, one of three built, the racing heritage is well-documented, the car is today as it left the racing world.
The car can fetch $125+M at auction, I think it would be over $150M, could touch $200M with the right bidders in the room.
I doubt the car has been driven, or started, in the last 20 years, as I tried to get close to it to do such, but was escorted away.
With that said, I bet it has a HUGELY policy on it, to protect the asset, even though it has minimal exposure to loss, with the exception of theft--anyone know how I can borrow a heavy-lift whirlybird, I can cut you in.

BTW, for those keeping score, he was a FL dood, lived in FL, as did the car!!

https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/ferrari_100551560_h.jpg

Nick Mason takes Brian Johnson for a ride in his Ferrari 250 GTO - YouTube
Interesting story the car help finance one of their tours:cert:

[Big bob]

I see many here don't agree with the old ways. They want instant gratification and are willing to pay for it more power to you. For what the house actually cost you pay double or more for someone else to do the work for you half assed. And for this privilege you get to pay intrest for the money you barrow then PMI insurance to protect your lender from you. Along with the insurance on a house you don't even own what a deal. :leaving:

My way I now have two places for the price of one.:seasix:

[Big bob]

Spot on. We have no mortgage but we do have HO insurance with a large deductible. It would be stupid not to.


Yes it would be living on a sandbar.:seasix:

[Steve_R]

I see many here don't agree with the old ways. They want instant gratification and are willing to pay for it more power to you. For what the house actually cost you pay double or more for someone else to do the work for you half assed. And for this privilege you get to pay intrest for the money you barrow then PMI insurance to protect your lender from you. Along with the insurance on a house you don't even owe what a deal. :leaving:

My way I now have two places for the price of one.:seasix:

PMI is only required for loan-to-value ratios over 80%, so that’s easy to avoid. With historically low mortgage interest rates for many years until recently it was smarter to pay 2-3% interest on a mortgage and invest the money to pay off the mortgage at a higher rate of return. As has already been mentioned, not having insurance of any kind, including liability, on a large investment whether paid off or not is just plain stupid.

If someone gets hurt on your property, sues for negligence and wins, you lose the property unless you’re very wealthy.

[Big bob]

PMI is only required for loan-to-value ratios over 80%, so that’s easy to avoid. With historically low mortgage interest rates for many years until recently it was smarter to pay 2-3% interest on a mortgage and invest the money to pay off the mortgage at a higher rate of return. As has already been mentioned, not having insurance of any kind, including liability, on a large investment whether paid off or not is just plain stupid.

If someone gets hurt on your property, sues for negligence and wins, you lose the property unless you’re very wealthy.

Sure if you can control the market. And your homestead is protected so you are just wrong again. :seasix:

When I built my first place intrest rates were much higher.:leaving:

[Yadkin]

No one's yet accused Big Bob of being smart, and he justifies that often. :Jeff '79:

[Steve_R]

No one's yet accused Big Bob of being smart, and he justifies that often. :Jeff '79:

He’s leaving no doubt.

[Big bob]

He’s leaving no doubt.

A little help for your ignorance. :seasix:


What does a Florida homestead protect you from? Florida homestead law protects your house from forced levy and sale by a civil judgment creditor. In other words, if you owe money on a judgment, the creditor cannot take away your home. There are exceptions to what a homestead protects you from in Florida.

[Chuck A]

GLWS

[Big bob]

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[Steve_R]

A little help for your ignorance. :seasix:


What does a Florida homestead protect you from? Florida homestead law protects your house from forced levy and sale by a civil judgment creditor. In other words, if you owe money on a judgment, the creditor cannot take away your home. There are exceptions to what a homestead protects you from in Florida.

So? Does it pay to rebuild if the house burns down, is flooded, hit by a hurricane or tornado, etc?

No, of course not. But you already knew that.

[Big bob]

So? Does it pay to rebuild if the house burns down, is flooded, hit by a hurricane or tornado, etc?

No, of course not. But you already knew that.

There you go talking out your ass again. I built my first place in 1982 intrest rates were a bit different. I also built underground into a hill. I prepared so my family was safe and protected. You stuck yours on a wave formed sandbar. To each their own. :seasix:

[Yadkin]

Big Bob lives in a cave. :Jeff '79:

[Steve_R]

Big Bob lives in a cave. :Jeff '79:

I picture Bob as a hobbit. :yesnod:

[Big bob]

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[JRD77VET]

GLWS :cert:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When my grandmother died, my youngest Aunt told her two older sisters ( my Mom is the oldest ) that she should get the house since the other two sisters had "more time with Mom"

This is the house
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/650-Lily-St-Monterey-CA-93940/19308697_zpid/

Didn't happen :lol:

Anyone want to guess her name? Karen is her name and yes, she is "entitled" as the namesake implies. :kick:

[Big bob]

Should have had her do all the cleaning for the sale since she did less than the others.:D

[Millenium Vette]

A little help for your ignorance. :seasix:


What does a Florida homestead protect you from? Florida homestead law protects your house from forced levy and sale by a civil judgment creditor. In other words, if you owe money on a judgment, the creditor cannot take away your home. There are exceptions to what a homestead protects you from in Florida.

:rofl:

Nice Googling there Matlock. Do you know what a Florida homestead doesn't protect you against? ALL of your other shit and your financial future.

Only a fool would forego homeowners insurance. The protections the liability portion offers is one big reason. It provides a dollar amount of coverage AND a defense. Much better to have insurance pay the lawyers you need.

[Yadkin]

I picture Bob as a hobbit. :yesnod:

A 6'-5" ape who dreams of bending over a petite woman and take her forcefully from behind. :Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

A 6'-5" ape who dreams of bending over a petite woman and take her forcefully from behind. :Jeff '79:


You would do well to stop talking about my deceased wife. It is coming up on the anniversary of her death and it is hard enough on me as it is. Why you continually find the need to attack my family is beyond me.:issues:

[Yadkin]

You would do well to stop talking about my deceased wife. It is coming up on the anniversary of her death and it is hard enough on me as it is. Why you continually find the need to attack my family is beyond me.:issues:

I didn't mention your family Big Bob. Nor do I know any details about them or care to. Stop trying to play victim- it just makes you look like a puzzy.

:sissy:

[VITE1]

Building in Port St Lucie is still going strong. Prices are flat to down 5% . We still have a significant demand based on the constant calls and letters we get.

[UniqueDoug]

I didn't mention your family Big Bob. Nor do I know any details about them or care to. Stop trying to play victim- it just makes you look like a puzzy.

:sissy:

Yep the keyboard tough guy quick to take personal jabs sure does play the victim card like a pro smh lol

[LATB]

Yep the keyboard tough guy quick to take personal jabs sure does play the victim card like a pro smh lol

Hey UniqueDoug
I heard you were over Cee-fot trying to convince the atheists there is a God.
Any converts?

[dvarapala]

Hey UniqueDoug
I heard you were over Cee-fot trying to convince the atheists there is a God.
Any converts?

I think he managed to convert a few cloned sheeple...

[Yadkin]

Yep the keyboard tough guy quick to take personal jabs sure does play the victim card like a pro smh lol

That's what happens when a guy built like an ape has to compete in the ring where only brainpower is allowed. :Jeff '79:

[sublime1996525]

Hey UniqueDoug
I heard you were over Cee-fot trying to convince the atheists there is a God.
Any converts?

Lol that thread is a cluster**** :funnier:

[Big bob]

That's what happens when a guy built like an ape has to compete in the ring where only brainpower is allowed. :Jeff '79:



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[Big bob]

That's what happens when a guy built like an ape has to compete in the ring where only brainpower is allowed. :Jeff '79:

73372

Could you use your massive brainpower to explain this. :waiting:

[Big bob]

Yep the keyboard tough guy quick to take personal jabs sure does play the victim card like a pro smh lol

Coming from one that had to protect himself from a Bronco. :sadangel:

[UniqueDoug]

Hey UniqueDoug
I heard you were over Cee-fot trying to convince the atheists there is a God.
Any converts?

Lol no converts yet, tenacious bunch of science believers over there! :D

Thread has been going for almost 4 months with like 7000 replies

[Yadkin]

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Could you use your massive brainpower to explain this. :waiting:

Put your back into it. :Jeff '79:

[UniqueDoug]

That's what happens when a guy built like an ape has to compete in the ring where only brainpower is allowed. :Jeff '79:

Oh snap lol and so true

[UniqueDoug]

Coming from one that had to protect himself from a Bronco. :sadangel:

I’ve been watching you over the months, your schtick is to criticize and jab, played out and unimpressive.

[Big bob]

Put your back into it. :Jeff '79:

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like you do no thank you.:rofl:





So that would be a no?:confused5::waiting:

[Yadkin]

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like you do no thank you.:rofl:





So that would be a no?:confused5::waiting:

If you want financial advice from me:
1) Upfront payment required.
2) It's probably too late for you.

:Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

If you want financial advice from me:
1) Upfront payment required.
2) It's probably too late for you.

:Jeff '79:


Financial advice from you?:rofl:

You can't even backup the stupid shit that comes out of your mouth.:rofl:

If ignorance is truly bliss you must skip every where you go.:leaving:

[LATB]

Lol no converts yet, tenacious bunch of science believers over there! :D

Thread has been going for almost 4 months with like 7000 replies

Doubt it will top your epic 15K post thread.

[Yadkin]

You can't even backup the stupid shit that comes out of your mouth.:rofl:



How ironic. :Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

How ironic. :Jeff '79:


I can back my words:seasix:

You not so much.:rofl:


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[Yadkin]

I can back my words:seasix:



No you can't.

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2017112&postcount=40

:Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

No you can't.

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2017112&postcount=40

:Jeff '79:
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A picture is worth a thousand words once again.:rofl:

:laugh::karen:

[Yadkin]

73415

A picture is worth a thousand words once again.:rofl:

:laugh::karen:

Translation: you can't. :sissy:

From my earlier post:

How's that section of deck going to swing Bob? :Jeff '79:

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71700&d=1667429331

[Big bob]

Ok you're a little slow you see the pic I posted AGAIN? You see where it is not attached to the beam? Show where the manufacturer recommended use shows NOT TO USE ANY FASTENERS on their product. Or even get someone with building experience to agree with you. I realize I am an avid over builder but I would never try to support a ton or two depending on that even with the proper fasteners. Not to mention the liability when your insurance will stick you with when your claim is denied if God forbid someone gets hurt or worse. I have pointed out a few things trying to help you out. You seem to take this as a personal attack and respond by making personal attacks. I will however admit I do have a bit of fun rubbing your nose in it when you try to defend your ignorance. :yesnod:

Once again you can't fix stupid all the best Big Bob

And a torpedo heater in a carpeted bedroom come on man. :slap:

[LATB]

Bob ridin Yadkin like a Christmas bicycle. :Jeff '79:

[Yadkin]

Ok you're a little slow you see the pic I posted AGAIN? You see where it is not attached to the beam? Show where the manufacturer recommended use shows NOT TO USE ANY FASTENERS on their product. Or even get someone with building experience to agree with you. I realize I am an avid over builder but I would never try to support a ton or two depending on that even with the proper fasteners. Not to mention the liability when your insurance will stick you with when your claim is denied if God forbid someone gets hurt or worse. I have pointed out a few things trying to help you out. You seem to take this as a personal attack and respond by making personal attacks. I will however admit I do have a bit of fun rubbing your nose in it when you try to defend your ignorance. :yesnod:

Once again you can't fix stupid all the best Big Bob

And a torpedo heater in a carpeted bedroom come on man. :slap:

Blah, blah, blah. I axd you three times, ya big ape, to explain your theory on how the finished assembly will "swing", and each time you failed. Three swings, three misses.
:Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

Blah, blah, blah. I axd you three times, ya big ape, to explain your theory on how the finished assembly will "swing", and each time you failed. Three swings, three misses.
:Jeff '79:


I explained that long ago. You chose to use that information against my family instead of fixing your shortcomings. :issues:

Maybe you should have Baby Doll read it for you. I am sure she will be able to pull your head out of your ass. As I am sure she has come to expect and accept this responsibility through the years. You really should try to grow up and stop treating her this way. And it sure as hell not my responsibility to raise you either. :sadangel:

All the best Big Bob

[Yadkin]

I explained that long ago. You chose to use that information against my family instead of fixing your shortcomings. :issues:

Maybe you should have Baby Doll read it for you. I am sure she will be able to pull your head out of your ass. As I am sure she has come to expect and accept this responsibility through the years. You really should try to grow up and stop treating her this way. And it sure as hell not my responsibility to raise you either. :sadangel:

All the best Big Bob

Talk about irony. :Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

Talk about irony. :Jeff '79:

Let's do you seem to be at a loss for words so I found some of yours that seem to explain. :)



In the engineering field I saw huge changes in workload over my career. When I did work for a large firm, the key was to be indispensable. I became the guy who could do the jobs outside of their expertise, train the hopeless cases, and still have one of highest utilization rates. Easy to do, just work 50-60 hours to be able to bill up to 40.


I always found if you do the job right the first time you don't spend half you time going back to fix it to get paid.:dance:

[Big bob]

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[Yadkin]

If you had been an engineer, Big Bob, you could explain your theory on how my completed structural assembly would "swing". You can't, so your stubbornness manifests into stupid memes and some poorly written posts. :Jeff '79:

[Yadkin]

In real life, when 6'-5" Big Bob lost an argument, he'd start hurling insults, and after losing that battle, eventually swinging his fists. Each in succession, methods to distract from his intellectual failures.

Here, I just keep pounding on his initial position, ever reminding him of his original argument.

"When your opponent has lost, never let him change the subject until he has admitted his defeat."

Yadkin 2022

:groupwave:

[Big bob]

Ok you're a little slow you see the pic I posted AGAIN? You see where it is not attached to the beam? Show where the manufacturer recommended use shows NOT TO USE ANY FASTENERS on their product. Or even get someone with building experience to agree with you. I realize I am an avid over builder but I would never try to support a ton or two depending on that even with the proper fasteners. Not to mention the liability when your insurance will stick you with when your claim is denied if God forbid someone gets hurt or worse. I have pointed out a few things trying to help you out. You seem to take this as a personal attack and respond by making personal attacks. I will however admit I do have a bit of fun rubbing your nose in it when you try to defend your ignorance. :yesnod:

Once again you can't fix stupid all the best Big Bob

And a torpedo heater in a carpeted bedroom come on man. :slap:


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I have seen some of your engineering follies. Why would you continually post your stupidity. But I do thank you for the laughter you bring. I really enjoyed steel hauling monstrosity. :seasix::rofl:

I believe you are fixated on my joke that you are basically swinging your hot tub off of soup cans. Now find one person with building experience or manufacturer data that supports your engineering follies.

:waiting:

[Yadkin]

If you had been an engineer, Big Bob, you could explain your theory on how my completed structural assembly would "swing". You can't, so your stubbornness manifests into stupid memes...

Each in succession, methods to distract from his intellectual failures.

:Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

If you had been an engineer, Big Bob, you could explain your theory on how my completed structural assembly would "swing". You can't, so your stubbornness manifests into stupid memes and some poorly written posts. :Jeff '79:



I am not the one that claimed to be an engineer. :laugh:

[Yadkin]

I am not the one that claimed to be an engineer. :laugh:


In the engineering field I saw huge changes in workload over my career. When I did work for a large firm, the key was to be indispensable. I became the guy who could do the jobs outside of their expertise, train the hopeless cases, and still have one of highest utilization rates. Easy to do, just work 50-60 hours to be able to bill up to 40.


:Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

That was your post I copied and pasted you really are special aren't you? I feel sorry for poor Baby Doll.:sadangel:

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[Big bob]

:Jeff '79:

:rofl:

[Yadkin]

That was your post I copied and pasted you really are special aren't you?


I am rather special Big Bob; I don't have to pretend to be an engineer. :Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

I am rather special Big Bob; I don't have to pretend to be an engineer. :Jeff '79:


I am surprised you can spell it. You sure as hell can't prove it.:lmfao:

[Yadkin]

I am surprised you can spell it. You sure as hell can't prove it.:lmfao:

Want to bet? Make any wager. :D

[Big bob]

I have seen follies so ok your a engineer your just not a very bright one.:sadangel:

Just out of curiosity what kind do you claim to be? Surely not structural engineer. :rofl:

You can't even answer a simple question why would I trust you on a bet? :slap:

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[Yadkin]

You mean you've imagined follies from someone far, far above you.

So what's your wager, Big Bob? $1000? $10,000? More? Name a number that you will be willing to part with. :D

[Big bob]

You mean you've imagined follies from someone far, far above you.

So what's your wager, Big Bob? $1000? $10,000? More? Name a number that you will be willing to part with. :D


Really you think anyone with the common sence of a piss ant would put a torpedo flamethrower in a carpeted bedroom?

Your a legend in your own mind.:)

Please have Baby Doll read for you. Maybe she can explain it in a way you can understand. :sadangel:

[Steve_R]

Really you think anyone with the common sence of a piss ant would put a torpedo flamethrower in a carpeted bedroom?

Your a legend in your own mind.:)

Please have Baby Doll read for you. Maybe she can explain it in a way you can understand. :sadangel:

*sense
*pissant
*you’re

Irony, thy name is Big Bob.

[Yadkin]

Looks like Big Bob, a coward, won't take the bet. :Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

Looks like Big Bob, a coward, won't take the bet. :Jeff '79:


What bet? You have been dodging my question why you don't think the joist hangers should be secured to the manufacturers specifications.

And why would you suspend a ton or two with your wife on the few screws that you did use?

Yep you're a ****ing genius. :seasix:

[LATB]

Some of those joist hangers don’t have a place for a screw or nail into the joist. Just a little tab that you hammer in.

I don’t think the joist hanger being fastened to the joist has much to do with the structural integrity of the system.

One could argue that a bunch of screws or nails at the end of the joist only splits and weakens the joist.

[Big bob]

Some of those joist hangers don’t have a place for a screw or nail into the joist. Just a little tab that you hammer in.

I don’t think the joist hanger being fastened to the joist has much to do with the structural integrity of the system.

One could argue that a bunch of screws or nails at the end of the joist only splits and weakens the joist.

Really how does that little tab hammer in to the steel beam? And you don't see any problem with the lateral load sliding back and forth on steel on steel and bowing out the wood fascia boards? And you would put a ton or two hot tub up that high as he did with only a few screws holding it? If you vouch for this system I will publicly apologize but I still would never trust that myself but I am no engineer.:seasix:

[LATB]

Really how does that little tab hammer in to the steel beam? And you don't see any problem with the lateral load sliding back and forth on steel on steel and bowing out the wood fascia boards? And you would put a ton or two hot tub up that high as he did with only a few screws holding it? If you vouch for this system I will publicly apologize but I still would never trust that myself but I am no engineer.:seasix:
The point is the little tab offers zero structural benefit, and one could argue that additional fasteners would not either.

Of course the tab isn’t designed to penetrate a steel framing member.

My post was not an effort to analyze the project.

Btw- that framing member you called a “facia” is better referred to as a beam or band or sometimes a rim joist. Depending on the framing makeup. A facia board is more commonly a finish board along a roof rake or eave. If used to describe a band on a deck, it would still be a trim or finish material not a structural framing member.

[Big bob]

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Would you trust this to put a hot tub on with your loved ones bouncing around in it?

[Steve_R]

I am no engineer.:seasix:

That’s painfully obvious.

[Big bob]

In this case I will take it as a compliment. :seasix:

[LATB]

73575

Would you trust this to put a hot tub on with your loved ones bouncing around in it?

I would have done it differently. But then I have no desire to have a hot tub. So moot. :seasix: :cert:

[Yadkin]

What bet?
Your bet that I recorded then pasted below. What's your wager, Big Bob? Want to make it $10,000? How about $100,000?

I'm willing to bet my life on the integrity of the structural system that I designed and built. How about you, with a little bit of cash?

Come on Big Bob, be a Big Man. Or are you really just a Little Coward?
:waiting:

[MadInNc]

Your bet that I recorded then pasted below. What's your wager, Big Bob? Want to make it $10,000? How about $100,000?

I'm willing to bet my life on the integrity of the structural system that I designed and built. How about you, with a little bit of cash?

Come on Big Bob, be a Big Man. Or are you really just a Little Coward?
:waiting:

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[Big bob]

Your bet that I recorded then pasted below. What's your wager, Big Bob? Want to make it $10,000? How about $100,000?

I'm willing to bet my life on the integrity of the structural system that I designed and built. How about you, with a little bit of cash?

Come on Big Bob, be a Big Man. Or are you really just a Little Coward?
:waiting:


Like I said you are not that bright. You are betting yours and your wife's life and anyone's else's that get in that. And if that is a product of your integrity you have none. I am still waiting for others to weigh in with building skills to validate your ignorance or genius. We have one known builder that put it very nicely that he would have done it differently. :seasix:

[Yadkin]

Like I said you are not that bright. You are betting yours and your wife's life and anyone's else's that get in that. And if that is a product of your integrity you have none. I am still waiting for others to weigh in with building skills to validate your ignorance or genius. We have one known builder that put it very nicely that he would have done it differently. :seasix:

Are you welching on your bet already Big Bob? :sissy:

[Big bob]

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[Yadkin]

Yep. He's a welcher.


:Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

Yep he's a moron. :sadangel:


Do you always believe the stories you make up? Or do you hear voices in your head?:confused5:

[Big bob]

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Still waiting are you unable to answer the simplest of questions?

[Yadkin]

Like this question, that has yet gone unanswered.

How's that section of deck going to swing Bob? :Jeff '79:

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71700&d=1667429331

:Jeff '79:

[UniqueDoug]

:waiting:

[Big bob]

I explained it and even showed pictures. Have you had Baby Doll look at it and explain it so you can understand. I even told you I would apologize if you got a builder to agree with your engineering wizardry. I was just trying to save you from yourself. You really think a handful of screws is safe to hold up a hot tub with people playing around in it?


It is about time you try to focus on safety instead of stupidity. :kick:

[Big bob]

By the way where in the hell is the tub?

[Big bob]

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Ok I went back and found my post that you seem to be fixated on. :rofl:

[Yadkin]

I explained it and even showed pictures.
All you did, Big Bob, was copy/ paste pictures of portions of the assembly. I'm asking you to explain the mechanism for how the completed assembly will "swing".

Shit, man, you have been making excuses for weeks now.

:waiting:

[Yadkin]

"Soup cans". Classic. :Jeff '79:

[LATB]

"Soup cans". Classic. :Jeff '79:

That was funny. :rofl:

[Big bob]

All you did, Big Bob, was copy/ paste pictures of portions of the assembly. I'm asking you to explain the mechanism for how the completed assembly will "swing".

Shit, man, you have been making excuses for weeks now.

:waiting:


Sleep on it. You really can't be that dense. :sadangel:

[Yadkin]

Sleep on it. You really can't be that dense. :sadangel:

More distractions from "Soup Can Engineer" Big Bob. :Jeff '79:

[MadInNc]

Yo Yadkin, on hot tub deck it appears to be 7.25 ft wide with the outer edge by railing having the hot tub recessed @4” but larger exposed floor rafter toward house. What 6” there?

Is that right? Pretty aggressive pitched deck floor for snow water etc…. But hot tub will be level

[Yadkin]

Yo Yadkin, on hot tub deck it appears to be 7.25 ft wide with the outer edge by railing having the hot tub recessed @4” but larger exposed floor rafter toward house. What 6” there?

Is that right? Pretty aggressive pitched deck floor for snow water etc…. But hot tub will be level

I designed/ built the deck to slope 1/4"/ ft, which is the minimum cross slope for roadways, to facilitate drainage. I never want to have to shovel snow on it.

[Big bob]

I designed/ built the deck to slope 1/4"/ ft, which is the minimum cross slope for roadways, to facilitate drainage. I never want to have to shovel snow on it.


Damn learned something else I never knew snow will slide right off a quarter inch slope.:seasix:

[Yadkin]

Might help if you could read and understand simple English. :Jeff '79:

[Big bob]

Still waiting for any answers.:slap:

[Steve_R]

Still waiting for any answers.:slap:

Why? You need a hobby. Or a life.

[Yadkin]

Still waiting for any answers.:slap:

As before, you first: https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2026126&postcount=128

:slap:

[gs568]

The easy way to end this is that Preston Henn, before his passing, owned a great car collection.
The crown jewel of this collection, and also the crown jewel of the automotive world, was his 1964 Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciales, one of three built, the racing heritage is well-documented, the car is today as it left the racing world.
The car can fetch $125+M at auction, I think it would be over $150M, could touch $200M with the right bidders in the room.
I doubt the car has been driven, or started, in the last 20 years, as I tried to get close to it to do such, but was escorted away.
With that said, I bet it has a HUGELY policy on it, to protect the asset, even though it has minimal exposure to loss, with the exception of theft--anyone know how I can borrow a heavy-lift whirlybird, I can cut you in.

BTW, for those keeping score, he was a FL dood, lived in FL, as did the car!!

https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/ferrari_100551560_h.jpg

Is that the swap meet guy??

[GTOguy]

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Ok I went back and found my post that you seem to be fixated on. :rofl:
I find it very cool that this bickering is going on into two months.

Very nice. :seasix:

[Big bob]

So sorry it is just my nature. When I see someone that is putting themselves and others in danger I speak up. I guess I will chalk this one up to a lost cause. All the best Bob


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[Yadkin]

He's got that right, you can't fix stupid. :Jeff '79: