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Mike Mercury
11-27-2022, 6:55pm
Employers Rethink Need for College Degrees in Tight Labor Market

https://www.wsj.com/articles/employers-rethink-need-for-college-degrees-in-tight-labor-market-11669432133

The tight labor market is prompting more employers to eliminate one of the biggest requirements for many higher-paying jobs: the need for a college degree.

Companies such as Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Delta Air Lines Inc. and International Business Machines Corp. have reduced educational requirements for certain positions and shifted hiring to focus more on skills and experience. Maryland this year cut college-degree requirements for many state jobs—leading to a surge in hiring—and incoming Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro campaigned on a similar initiative.

U.S. job postings requiring at least a bachelor’s degree were 41% in November, down from 46% at the start of 2019 ahead of the Covid-19 pandemic, according to an analysis by the Burning Glass Institute, a think tank that studies the future of work. Degree requirements dropped even more early in the pandemic. They have grown since then but remain below prepandemic levels.

The shift comes as demand for workers remains high and unemployment is low. Job postings far outpace the number of unemployed people looking for work—10.7 million openings in September compared with 5.8 million unemployed—creating unusually stiff competition for workers.

The persistently tight labor market has accelerated the trend that builds on a debate about the benefits and drawbacks of encouraging more people to attend four-year colleges and as organizations try to address racial disparities in the workplace.

Some occupations have universal degree requirements, such as doctors and engineers, while others typically have no higher education requirements, such as retail workers. There is a middle ground, such as tech positions, that have varying degree requirements depending on the industry, company and strength of the labor market and economy.

Lucy Mathis won a scholarship to attend a women in computer science conference. There, she learned about an IT internship at Google and eventually dropped out of her computer science undergraduate program to work at the company full time. The 28-year-old now makes a six-figure sum as a systems specialist.

“I found out I had a knack for IT,” she said. “I’m not good at academics. It’s not for me.”

More than 100,000 people in the U.S. have completed Google’s online college-alternative program that offers training in fast-growing fields such as digital marketing and project management, the company said. It and 150 other companies are now using the program to hire entry-level workers.

The majority of its U.S. roles at IBM no longer require a four-year degree after the company conducted a review of hiring practices, IBM spokeswoman Ashley Bright said.

Delta eased its educational requirements for pilots at the start of this year, saying a four-year college degree was preferred but no longer required of job applicants.

Walmart Inc., the country’s largest private employer, said it values skills and knowledge gained through work experience and that 75% of its U.S. salaried store management started their careers in hourly jobs.

“We don’t require degrees for most of our jobs in the field and increasingly in the home office as well,” Kathleen McLaughlin, Walmart executive vice president, said at an online event this fall. The company’s goal is to shift the “focus from the way someone got their skills, which is the degree, to what skills do they have.”

A four-year college degree holder has more lifetime earnings than one without. The lifetime earnings of a worker with a high-school diploma is $1.6 million while that of a bachelor’s degree holder is $2.8 million, according to a 2021 report by the Center on Education and the Workforce at Georgetown University.

But many people don’t finish college and are left with mountains of debt—more than 43 million people in the U.S. hold a total of $1.6 trillion in student-loan debt. While a college degree can provide specific workplace skills, workers can gain the skills needed for many jobs without a four-year degree.

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LATB
11-27-2022, 8:25pm
More Americans should listen to Mike Rowe and John Ratzenburger.

Yadkin
11-27-2022, 8:50pm
More Americans should listen to Mike Rowe and John Ratzenburger.

I heard an alarming statistic from Rowe the other day. Of every five skilled tradesmen retiring, there are only two to replace them. And this has been happening for at least 15 years.

LATB
11-27-2022, 10:16pm
Young people do not want to do physical work even if it pays great with great benefits. They want to sit behind a computer working. Six years ago, when working as Chief Engineer of a major highrise building in San Francisco. Journeyman's hourly wage was $55 per hour with 100% paid medical, $14 per hour paid into a pension, and $5 per hour paid into annuities account just like 401k. Guess how many qualified applied for open positions? New immigrants are going to be the only trades people on American.:seasix:

That’s because your side has convinced a generation (or more) that hard work is beneath them. Millions of young Americans who have no ambition or skills. Physically weak and emotionally unstable, these skinny jeans, gender confused, fruit cakes, are 100% the product of liberalism.

Yadkin
11-28-2022, 12:12am
Always gives me a chuckle when you see a diver collecting balls from water hazards.

Physical labor is beneath you.

Louie Detroit
11-28-2022, 1:13am
Conservatives do not want ILLEGAL immigrants in the USA.

this

Frankie the Fink
11-28-2022, 6:25am
It's not just skilled trades. A lot of restaurants near me close on weekends due to labor shortages. Conservatives do not want immigrants in the USA. Immigrants filled those positions in the past. Conservatives are killing the country with their outdated view.:seasix:
What idiocy - I am the progeny of immigrants, most in the US are, and all that I know embrace legal naturalization. My ancestors had to actually renounce any fealty to the King of Prussia when they became citizens.

This is different than the people illegaly skulking across the border and "working" the system to get max entitlments and freebies and working jobs paid in cash so they can avoid taxes...that's the ones that aren't cimrinals or gang members. None of these people understand or embrace the American culture nor understand the responsibiities of citizenship.

Biden terminating the "Stay In Mexico" policy was tantamount to sponsoring an invasion - now just make it across the border and ask for asylum, knowing the courts have a 54 month backlog, nearly 1/2 a decade. So you can hang out for 5 years before your case even comes up on US soil doing - whatever you like.

Hers is a picture of the car in my avatar after an uninsured, "undocumented" immigrant (second picture) pulled out in front of me like a madman; my lawyer said its common in Florida and why we have the highest rate of uninsured drivers in the country; over 27%

I know you post nonsense to stir up shit and pretend to have a life but you-should stick to discussing your cat fetish.

Vette40th
11-28-2022, 6:27am
I heard an alarming statistic from Rowe the other day. Of every five skilled tradesmen retiring, there are only two to replace them. And this has been happening for at least 15 years.

In our Office we just had two 25 plus year electricians retire, and our overlord NIWC/SPAWAR told our manager, do what you have to do to keep the remaining ones employed. Or, you will lose all your contracts.
Nobody is biting for jobs..

Vette40th
11-28-2022, 6:29am
It's not just skilled trades. A lot of restaurants near me close on weekends due to labor shortages. Conservatives do not want immigrants in the USA. Immigrants filled those positions in the past. Conservatives are killing the country with their outdated view.:seasix:
We are still the melting pot. We have a system of laws, under a cloak called IMMIGRATION. It has evolved since this country was founded.. Pretty neat system to control flow of people trying to get in.. Read it sometime.
We dont want Illegals coming in, as they **** it up for everyone, especially those trying to do it right.

Vette40th
11-28-2022, 6:45am
Frankie. You nailed it. Many in society are not making kids work for anything.
Hot pockets, xbox and a basement. What a life. Heck. One just became a Senator

Yadkin
11-28-2022, 7:40am
Physical labor taking the van out for a day more than you do in a week:seasix:
I live in a house, not a van. :Jeff '79:

Burro (He/Haw)
11-28-2022, 7:55am
Frankie. You nailed it. Many in society are not making kids work for anything.
Hot pockets, xbox and a basement. What a life. Heck. One just became a Senator

Hey. Slow your roll bitch. I like Hot Pockets. :funnier:

LATB
11-28-2022, 8:01am
It's not just skilled trades. A lot of restaurants near me close on weekends due to labor shortages. Conservatives do not want immigrants in the USA. Immigrants filled those positions in the past. Conservatives are killing the country with their outdated view.:seasix:

You have to wonder…

Does one practice to achieve this level of ignorance, or does it come naturally?

Strats-N-Vettes
11-28-2022, 8:03am
Frankie. You nailed it.


Many in society are not making kids work for anything.
Legal weed, Hot Pockets, xbox, and a basement.


What a life. Heck. One just became a Senator


fixed for more accuracy. :seasix:

Mick
11-28-2022, 8:24am
It's not just skilled trades. A lot of restaurants near me close on weekends due to labor shortages. Conservatives do not want immigrants in the USA. Immigrants filled those positions in the past. Conservatives are killing the country with their outdated view.:seasix:

Totally wrong. Conservatives LOVE immigrants, because we are smart enough to know that they are good for our country. What we don't want is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. They are more often than not diseased, uneducated, or criminals fleeing the justice departments of their country of origin.

I have read for decades that if we got even a reasonable control of our Southern border, the US could DOUBLE the number of legal immigrants coming into this country each year, and it would be good for our economy. But liberals would rather have the drug dealers, gang members, and child traffickers than folks who want to contribute to our society.

Egnalf
11-28-2022, 8:57am
We are still the melting pot. We have a system of laws, under a cloak called IMMIGRATION. It has evolved since this country was founded.. Pretty neat system to control flow of people trying to get in.. Read it sometime.
We dont want Illegals coming in, as they **** it up for everyone, especially those trying to do it right.

Totally wrong. Conservatives LOVE immigrants, because we are smart enough to know that they are good for our country. What we don't want is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. They are more often than not diseased, uneducated, or criminals fleeing the justice departments of their country of origin.

I have read for decades that if we got even a reasonable control of our Southern border, the US could DOUBLE the number of legal immigrants coming into this country each year, and it would be good for our economy. But liberals would rather have the drug dealers, gang members, and child traffickers than folks who want to contribute to our society.

This is the part these progressives dont understand. We realize that LEGAL immigration is a part of our society. Being the proverbial melting pot, its imperative to have that. What we DONT WANT, is the illegals scampering across the border, working for 5 bucks an hours cash, not paying taxes, and then using services which drives up costs for LEGAL citizens AND Immigrants.

Yadkin
11-28-2022, 9:12am
Listen to any left-leaning "news" report and they will NEVER qualify the term: immigration.

Mike Mercury
11-28-2022, 10:01am
Lucy Mathis won a scholarship to attend a women in computer science conference. There, she learned about an IT internship at Google and eventually dropped out of her computer science undergraduate program to work at the company full time. The 28-year-old now makes a six-figure sum as a systems specialist.

“I found out I had a knack for IT,” she said. “I’m not good at academics. It’s not for me.”

Over the 48 years I've been employed, I have run across quite a few that "have the knack" for certain skills. A college degree would of been a waste of time for them.

snide
11-28-2022, 1:01pm
You have to wonder…

Does one practice to achieve this level of ignorance, or does it come naturally?

If you care to observe all of the Barn's libtards, you'd come to the conclusion that it is a natural occurrence. :yesnod: